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The bronies are keeping me from liking MLP 36781280[Last 50 Posts]

I just want to like the five key episodes for what they did, and not bother with the S4 finale and the way it discarded the Mane Five's efforts to earn their keys, in-exchange for Twilight's over-empowerment. Unfortunately, too many bronies have mixed feelings about the five key episodes, disliked the Rainbow Power and Rainbow Castle, but constantly praised the Twilight/Tirek fight scene for making MLP dark and edgy, like all of those Dark Age comics from the 90's, even though the Mane Five were victimized and disposed of along the way.

This is most especially true with Tommy Oliver, aka Brony Curious. He liked Rarity Takes Manehattan and Pinkie Pride, but ruthlessly criticized Breezies, Rainbow Falls, and Leap of Faith. He also praised the fight scene in that finale, but disliked the way the Rainbow Power was presented, namely as the same thing as the Elements of Harmony, but more spruced up.

In other words, I'm in the minority of opinions when it comes to the S4-long story-arc, and I need help dealing with this.

Last edited at Thu, Oct 16th, 2014 09:52

Moony!ALoveyoutM 36781281

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>>36781280
i didn't like the dark and edgy, and feel like ponies should be further away from that.

i agree with you too, in that i didn't have much to criticize. i under having the freedom to criticize, but i cannot help but feel that, as a whole, it takes away from our joy as a group instead of adding to it.

DemonioBlanco 36781283

>>36781280
thouse who think the Tirek fight is "dark and edgy" dont have a good judge.

In fact it is probably pretty bad.

and by the way, rainbow falls was bad. a complete mess. rarity and pinkie pie was good, the rest was good enough, or at least solid..... for the most part...

Last edited at Thu, Oct 16th, 2014 10:34

36781284

>>36781281
And let's not forget about that poll on Equestria Daily. Twilight's Kingdom won that episode battle by a landslide, mostly because it was the most recent episode, and because of that bloated fight scene despite its complete and utter disregard for Twilight's friends and their key episodes.

That simply makes it sound like that my opinions don't matter because they're in the minority, and that I need to conform with the majority.

Also:

>>36781283
"Bad" in a good way? Or "bad" in an awful, irredeemable way. Also, "for the most part"? And, the way you said "for the most part" and "Rainbow Falls was bad" was just another example of bronies keeping me away from liking the S4-long story-arc save for the Twilight/Tirek fight.

Last edited at Thu, Oct 16th, 2014 10:41

Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) 36781285

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>>36781284


why exactly are "Bronies" keeping you from enjoying the episodes?

All things consider, this has nothing to do with *Bronies*, this has everything to do with Twilight's kingdom.


I mean, if bronies hated Twilight's kingdom, it still wouldn't make that episode bounced up for you, its the episode itself that makes you dislike it.

36781286

>>36781285
Because they're liking Twilight's Kingdom to death, mostly for its fight scene at the expense of the Mane Five, their respective key episodes, the Rainbow Power, the Rainbow Castle, and the friendship themes that tie all four of those things together.

In other words, the bronies jumped the shark just as much as the show. They gave up on friendship altogether, just to see Twilight become a Super Saiyan bad-ass even if it meant victimizing and disposing of Twilight's friends, and thus friendship in-general.

Last edited at Thu, Oct 16th, 2014 10:52

DemonioBlanco 36781287

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>>36781284
why?
because at least for me, i think it is a mess, with all that "we only have a team of 2 which are not sport people" which are just going to make fool of themselves, and rainbow dash going back and foward between "i want to win, even i know we dont have a team", and it pretty much relay on cameos, memes and dərpy to keep it a float.

and i just say "for the most part" on the other episodes, because i dont like to over sell it. i can watch them, and i dont think they are bad at all, but i dont think they are that special or spectacular, and they dont have to, i mean, sure are part of the arc, but that doesnt mean just for that it have to be good.

if you like it rainbow fall, just because is part of an arc, fine, let it be, is just for how i dont like Equestria Girls, and other people love it just because it have ponies slap over it.

but then i dont get it, why if other people think other episodes are bad, you are not going to like the end of the story arc... which the best part was discord turning good "THE RIGHT WAY". The fight isnt anything special, so you dont have to like it, in fact, if the fight was the best part of the episode, it would be a pretty bad episode.

That remind me that time when i found just 1 guy which watch ponies where i live, i was talking to him how S04 have being good, and it was just half way. i mentioned to him about how i dislike Equestria Girls, he mention he like it, and i said "well, to me is different, because when i was watching the movie, sunset shimmer appear, and steal the crown, i was like *how she know anything to have a plan about stealing twilight crown if she was in another dimension* and the movie wasnt even 20 minutes in"
and he said "oh my god, you are right, i will not be able to like this movie anymore" and answered "but why? you are going to break that easy for somethign you didnt care about?"

just watch the damn things. and if you like it fine. and pick the critics you trusth the most.

example, you can really like Equestria Girls, and i will probably hate it forever, and thats fine, is just that when you like something, i will be like "yea.... but you like this thing i dislike, so that dont mean that much to me"

and it work the other way around, if i say "i dont like something" you will say "well, Demonio dislike EG, which i like, so his word doesnt mean that much"

Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) 36781288

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>>36781286

So whether or not others like an episode influences how YOU will like MLP?


Like, it shouldn't matter what others think of something, whether or not you like something is dependent on your own opinions.

36781289

>>36781287
Rainbow Falls wasn't just part of an arc. It was also a moment of Rainbow Dash's character-development, where her Element of Loyalty was challenged and she had to stay true to that Element. She also taught Spitfire about her Element as a result.

It was when Rainbow Dash and the other four ponies were victimized in-exchange for Twilight's over-empowerment that I had a crap ton of problems with that finale. And, the problem is accentuated by the bronies liking that finale mostly for its bloated fight, even if it's at the expense of Twilight's friends, and the friendship themes that made them bronies in the first place.

DemonioBlanco 36781290

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>>36781286
and there is people which think the show should be more violent and dark, and i think that is dumb.

i think the Tirek fight scene just could be useful to me in one way. i have a nephew (i think he is going to be six at the end of the month), he likes watching MLP, we watched episodes from time to time, episodes i got for him.
then the little guy some times stole blind bag ponies from me, which is bad, it have to be teach that if it isnt yours, you dont have to grab it.
on any case, her mother doesnt like to let him watch mlp, because well, mlp have a reputation for a long long time to be a super girly show for girls.
she punish him for watching mlp on the tv. and for me that pretty much is represing him, bringing that feel of "what you like is wrong and should feel ashame of it"

while his father (my brother) have been saying to him that im gay, or at least my nephew have told me twice that my brother say that, all because i like ponies. and having alot of little pony merch doesnt help.

So, if some day im with my brother, and im in a situation where they will punish my nephew, i can say to him "look, you probably dont have much of an idea of how the show is, it isnt like the old stuff, just watch on a little scene"
sure is not a scene i think is good, or reflect alot of the good elements of the show, but they are just so trapped on the concepts that cartoons are just dumb stuff for kids, and that MLP is for girls, that i have to show them that the show is able to blow stuff up.


And remember, how the bronies like to claim how "dark and edgy" the comics are, just because a picture like this is on them.

Last edited at Thu, Oct 16th, 2014 11:15

DemonioBlanco 36781291

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1ToLS3Cj7w
>>36781289
The thing TO ME with Rainbow fall is... in concept, there shouldnt be a problem, it sound good, specially for her key episode.

but in excecution and stuff around is really not good, is just.... awful to me.

by the points you are saying it will be the same if the episode was " rainbow dash is ask to go to rarity birthday, but she get tempted by Spit fire to go to her birthday party with the wondebolts, and pushing like "come on, if they are your friends they would not mind you being with us", but at the end rainbow dash go to rarity party, and spit fire say "well, you teach me that being loyal to your friends is good"

and it cover exactly the same points you mentioned.

Excecution is a key thing (not pun intented), alot of the characters motivation are really weak, alot of the stuff is forced, and some are just bad.

But i dont get "piss off" or "mad" for rainbow fall to be bad, i mean, it isnt bad because it give a bad message, it is just bad because i feel the excecution was really weak and not good.

So if people like it, great, that just them, and i have my reasons of why dont liking it.

It isnt like Equestria Girls which i Hate in concept, and in execution, and even then there is people liking it..... but i digress.

Take for example this guy, which ultra hyper mega hate "PYHD", and he give his reasons, and when i watch that episode, i dont have a problem with it, should i go nuts? no, probably i can see what he is saying, but i dont think it is as butchering like he is saying.

36781292

>>36781290
That picture you showed me also reminded of a specific piece of irony.

In the climax of the Return of Chrysalis arc, the same thing that happened in the climax of Twilight's Kingdom also happened in there as well. Just as Tirek would hold Twilight's friends hostage for her magic, Chrysalis would hold her friends hostage to gain her apprenticeship. The Twilight/Chrysalis fight also involved enhancing both combatants' magic, except instead of other ponies' magic, they were powered up by the Secretariat Comet. The differences between both similar scenarios were the order those two things happened -- that is, the fight happening after Chrysalis held Twilight's friends hostage, rather than before like with Tirek -- and the species Twilight used to be before becoming an alicorn.

And, I call it an "irony", because I didn't have any problem with the Twilight/Chrysalis fight, even though I would have a crap ton of problems with the Twilight/Tirek fight. And even I don't know the answer as to why.

36781293

Double post, sorry.

Last edited at Thu, Oct 16th, 2014 11:24

NostalgiaSchmaltz!jdKt6Dif02 36781294

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> the S4 finale and the way it discarded the Mane Five's efforts to earn their keys, in-exchange for Twilight's over-empowerment.
>many bronies [...] disliked the Rainbow Power and Rainbow Castle, but constantly praised the Twilight/Tirek fight scene for making MLP dark and edgy

This is the *fourth* time you are making a thread with these arguments.

Anonymous 36781295

>>36781292
>I didn't have any problem with the Twilight/Chrysalis fight
Why not? That shit was worse than anything the show's done.

36781296

>>36781295
You haven't explained why, though.

Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) 36781297

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>>36781290
>and there is people which think the show should be more violent and dark, and i think that is dumb.


Going to disagree. I think that some violence and adventure can have a very good impact on the show. The season 4 premier for example had a very nice feel to it and a decent, but not too over the top confrontation with the vines.

Likewise, I feel that the increased adventure in season 4 was one of its strongest selling points.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781298

>>36781297
In other words, you want the show to be about Super Saiyan Twilight Sparkle frying bad guys, you probably also want for the Mane 5 to die so that she gets more space.

(Fucking watch, that's what he's going to say)

DemonioBlanco 36781299

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>>36781292
so why you hate Twilight/Tirek fight, so much outside the "other people claim is amazing and say other stuff is bad"

i mean, Tirek got hostage Twilight friends before the fight, just like with crysalis.

the only thing i would mind of the fight... is that twilight said "holly hell, this guy is going to start attacking me, better teleport back into ponyville, into my house, so that way i can put in danger other ponies" just so twilight house get destroyed, and then she get back to fight with him. and you know why that scene is there probably? just to make place for the new princess's twilight sparkle friendship kindom rianbow playset.

While Twilight/Chrysalis fight, for what i know (i didnt read it, i couldnt get over issue 3) could count as anticlimactic and lame, like chysalist going "hehehe, im more powerful because the commet" and twilight "im more powerful too", "oh, damn" twilight win and they go home.

At least the battle with Tirek wasnt the resolution of the problem, that would have been really lame, that twilight won against tirek and nothing of the friendship stuff happend.

>>36781297
but it depend of how much "violence" and "darkness" you are talking about?

im not saying it shouldnt have, but at least i feel the degree they have is totally fine, it probably just need a little more clever writing (dont take me wrong, they are not dumb writters for the most part, but they cant think on other way to defeat the bad guys outside shooting a magic laser to them, it woulndt be nice if for one the rainbow laser fails but Real friendship is the one which defeate the bad guy?), or touching moments.

36781300

>>36781298
I don't want that, myself! Besides, the Mane Five already received spotlight from their key episodes. It's just that I can't enjoy them because a whole bunch of bronies are keeping me from enjoying them, due to their mixed receptions to the key episodes.

I also can't appreciate the Rainbow Power and Rainbow Castle for the way they fixed the damage dealt by that Twilight/Tirek fight, if only barely. Again, people dislike the Rainbow Power and Rainbow Castle, but praise the fight despite its complete disregard for the Mane Five and their key episodes.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781301

>>36781300
The problem isn't other bronies, the problem is your incredibly weak will.

36781302

>>36781301
"Weak will"?

Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) 36781303

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>>36781299
>but it depend of how much "violence" and "darkness" you are talking about?

>im not saying it shouldnt have, but at least i feel the degree they have is totally fine, it probably just need a little more clever writing (dont take me wrong, they are not dumb writters for the most part, but they cant think on other way to defeat the bad guys outside shooting a magic laser to them, it woulndt be nice if for one the rainbow laser fails but Real friendship is the one which defeate the bad guy?), or touching moments.




Well, look at rainbow rocks. I think they did that well. The mane six struggled to defeat the dazzles and didn't just curb stomp them with a giant rainbow. They needed to reaffirm their friendship with no just the six, but also by accepting sunset shimmer and getting her to work through her fear as well.
They had a nice bit of rising action in that they struggled against the dazzles initially and were able to almost hold their own with just the six of them, but then were driven back and realized they needed sunset shimmer as a friend.



Honestly, even if it was a musical battle, I feel that the climax of RR is one of the best fights in the show so far.

>>36781298

hey man, you're back! Hah, how's things been?

DemonioBlanco 36781304

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>>36781300
And people love Equestria Girls and that dont stop me for disliking it.
....
....
wait, that doesnt work the same way....
....
....

DemonioBlanco 36781305

>>36781303
>Well, look at rainbow rocks.
ok
>they just make a different version of the same rainbow, because it isnt like the horse move and do stuff, the horse shoot a rainbow laser.

i dont think there is much of what i was talking about.

Dee Twenty(Element of Cheer)!Nat20kBygE 36781306

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>People not liking what you like is making you not like those things.

Repeat after me, OP. "I don't give a fuck what you think." Dee has thoroughly enjoyed many things people bitch and whine endlessly about because of this philosophy.

36781307

>>36781306
"I don't give a fuck what you think".

In other words, I'm free to believe that the key episodes were better than the finale. Again, the key episodes gave Twilight's friends meaningful character-development, before the finale disposed of them in-exchange for Twilight's over-empowerment.

Last edited at Thu, Oct 16th, 2014 12:02

Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) 36781308

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>>36781307
>In other words, I'm free to believe that the key episodes were better than the finale.


Ummm.. YES. I think everyone has been trying to tell you this for a while XD

Like, I feel that the finale didn't really treat the mane six well either, but I don't think it ruins anything else XD. One episode doesn't affect other episodes after all.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781309

>>36781303
Eh, alright. I think I learned how to keep my emotions from going overboard in the meantime.

I am also currently beating myself because I can't buy Borderlands The Pre-Sequel yet, and am currently chomping at the bit for the release of Binding of Isaac: Rebirth.

>>36781302
Yes, you have an incredibly weak will. You're letting "public opinion" (and trust me, it's not really public opinion, just confirmation bias mixed with paranoia making you blow the opinion of like, 33% of the fanbase way out of proportion) shape your like or dislike of something.

Most people dislike Daring Don't, yet I fucking love that episode (for the most part, it kinda falls apart after AzureButtHands enters the picture), and I don't make 4 threads complaining about that.

Dee Twenty(Element of Cheer)!Nat20kBygE 36781310

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>>36781307

Indeed, especially since it's true, especially for It Ain't Easy Being Breezie, how often do you get to see Zechs Marquis as an effeminate pixie pony instead of an effeminate human in a mask?

DemonioBlanco 36781311

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>>36781307
Then i cant do anything for you. you are not my enemy.

because i dont think anything of the stuff you are against off.

Not even the Equestria Girls gang are my enemies.... lets just say im neutral - agresive to them..... it isnt the best option, but i cant be a neutral-neutral

My enemies are los Pro -Ditzy and Anti-Dərpy, thouse bastards are the worst things of all the things i hate.

Last edited at Thu, Oct 16th, 2014 12:19

Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) 36781313

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>>36781309

yeah, I know how you feel there. I'm not wanting to buy it until I get a new comp since my current one is over 6 years old and runs like crap (and I don't want to play it choppy).

so its annoying know that it'll be forever till I can play it. (Refuse to buy a new comp until I hit a certain Savings goal in the bank)


>.< Ugh, and I love borderlands.

>>36781310


Huh, most people usually think of Vegeta for Seabreeze's character. :/


Also, STFU seabreeze is the most manley character on the show! XD
I honestly can't figure out why everyone hated this episode so much. I really liked it, and its one of my favorite key episodes.

36781314

>>36781311
And, I don't mind the Rainbow Power and Rainbow Castle, either, mostly for what they represent thematically, regardless of what people say about their toyetic nature or their designs.

Dee Twenty(Element of Cheer)!Nat20kBygE 36781315

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>>36781313

Dee has been rewatching Gundam Wing for the first time since Toonami was an afterschool block, Quatre is best pony.

Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) 36781316

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>>36781315

Dude! i thought i was the only person who liked Quatre the best XD
most people always gravitate towards one of the other 4 :/
Granted, his gundam kind of started to suck once they got to space dude to the increased focus on movement and projectile weapons.

DemonioBlanco 36781317

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>>36781314
>Rainbow Castle
and im just going to give them the benefit of the doubt...
i mean, sure it is toyetic, and is pretty much a ultra pull off the ass.
specially because the season was miss leading that the castle of the sisters was going to be the one which transform.
it was call back and visited more than once during the season, the tree of harmony was just under it, and it even included the super fun slide on castle maneia.

i mean, they wrot "the castle have a slide", just like the toy, and they decide "mmmm, lets just make a new one"

it could be that it was change because the sisters castle didnt look at all like the toy? and because they later decided that keeping twilight living in the ever free forest could be akward and weird, so they moved it to ponyville.
but now you have a crystal dessign which doesnt fit at all the town at all.
if instead of being to much cristal it had more "tree like" elements to it

So i think is lame, and not "cool", but that is because my expectations of why the staff do stuff isnt strong enough, i mean, i think stuff like Meghan talking about hype and stuff, is shallow and manipulative. and dont get me exited what she thinks, but it annoy me.

Last edited at Thu, Oct 16th, 2014 12:33

Dee Twenty(Element of Cheer)!Nat20kBygE 36781318

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>>36781316

He and Duo are the only two with any personality, the other three are just copy pasta soulless dolls, so naturally they're the two best ponies. Plus Sandrock Custom gets a badass cloak in Endless Waltz.

36781319

>>36781317
And the new castle has thrones not only for Twilight, but her friends as well. Now, they're like a Round Table conference!

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781320

>>36781313
My problem is just money. It costs 100,00R$ , with an additional 40 smackers for the Season Pass. It just ain't happening.

I'm just going to wait until the Winter Sale (Or summer sale, in my case), and wait until the price drops by 50-75%.

DemonioBlanco 36781321

>>36781319
we will see how it plays at the end.

Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) 36781323

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>>36781317
>>36781319


The fact that the castle has thrones for all of them is probably the thing that interests me the most from the finale. Its a nice indication, though I will, as always, hold my breath until season 4.


I still say they could have made a much more interesting castle though, even if it is growing on me.

>>36781320

Going to be honest, I have no idea what that translates to in Dollars XD

>>36781318

still gotta wonder what the point of a cloak for a giant robot is; what, is it going to get cold? XD

Still sad that the endless waltz version of the heavy arms looked so butt compared to the other redesigns. The red was way better.

36781324

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>>36781280
"People don't agree with me and I can't deal with it"

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781325

>>36781323
Doesn't matter, money is money.

Dee Twenty(Element of Cheer)!Nat20kBygE 36781326

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>>36781323

The same point as big feathery wings, it just looks awesome, what's the point of kicking ass if you can't look cool doing it? Also, this is best Heavy Arms Custom.

Admiral Yang Wenli 36781330

>>36781309
I saw you were having fun on dərpibooru while you were away.

Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) 36781331

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>>36781326

WINGS.
ON.
EVERYTHING!


Though it looks like the gun got upgraded to a beam gun in that image; I kind of feel that ruins heavy arms character, since it was about Lots of kinetic Dakka. You're just making an imitation wing zero if you give it a beam weapon

>>36781324

come on, need to insult him. I think he's overreacting, but i agree with him on disliking Twilight hogging all the attention and the finale being 90% about her with 10% for the other 5.

Last edited at Thu, Oct 16th, 2014 12:59

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781333

>>36781330
Wrong, I'm never having fun. Unless it involves railguns, people being set on fire, or lizard women with really unusual sexual glans.

36781334

>>36781331
Again, at least Twilight's friends went through their own key episodes. And, in my personal opinion, those were better than Twilight's Kingdom, because they were slice-of-life storylines that gave each of the Mane Five meaningful character-development. All Twilight's Kingdom did, at least until the end, was dispose of them and disregard their key episodes, just to turn Twilight into a Super Saiyan bad-ass.

Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) 36781335

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>>36781333

You and your lizard women.

36781336

>>36781331
>come on, need to insult him. I think he's overreacting, but i agree with him on disliking Twilight hogging all the attention and the finale being 90% about her with 10% for the other 5.

Oh I'm all for him disliking it. I'm for him having a discussion on how he thinks it hsould have gone or what he believes the show should focus on. But his entire opening post was centered around the fact that someone else didn't like what he liked and liked what he didn't like. That people are discussing things that he didn't want to discuss. In fact, his last words were "I'm in the minority of opinions when it comes to the S4-long story-arc, and I need help dealing with this." Thus, BUILD A BRIDGE AND GET OVER IT!

By the way, if you are open to the idea of Everypony is Alicorns, then you should read The Great Alicorn Hunt [www.fimfiction.net] by RealityCheck [www.fimfiction.net]. Though you would want to start with the prior story Parting Words. [www.fimfiction.net]

EquQ4xfMaTw Anonymous 36781339

>>36781334
and thouse are good reasons.i mean, the episode can still be bad, and include your character development.
there is nothing wrong on liking bad stuff.
or just liking the idea that try to bring, even if the excecution doesnt show it as well.

I mean, i know Monster High is bad, and just because of that doesnt mean i enjoy watching this badness, because there are episodes which do stuff pretty original.... even if they are nothing special.

DemonioBlanco 36781340

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EquQ4xfMaTw
>>36781339
And this was me all along

36781341

>>36781340
Didn't you do taht before?

DemonioBlanco 36781343

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RJHorrgPHo
>>36781341
what?
saying that i kind of enjoy watching bad Monster high?
yes, i spam it constantly
but it was to point out "just because something bad some something you like, it doesnt mean everybody else have to like it, or you have to dislike it"

In other news, Jhonny spirit is keep on detention for 3000 years, that cover NMM quota 3 times.

Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) 36781344

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>>36781336

I actually haven't read a single Piece of fan fiction yet :/
Like, not for anything I've ever watched or played.



I probably should get around to doing that :/

36781345

>>36781344
RrealtyCheck has experience writing stories. You can see it on his webpage: http://www.rhjunior.com/

No poor quality here. Though he personally sometimes has outbursts that bother people, so long as you don't read his blogs, you won't see them.

Nother Nonymous (Element of Threadkilling) 36781374

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>>36781280
>The bronies are keeping me from liking MLP
>>36781286
>the bronies jumped the shark just as much as the show. They gave up on friendship
>>36781289
>the problem is accentuated by the bronies liking that finale
>>36781290
>remember, how the bronies like to claim how "dark and edgy" the comics are

I've been posting on /pony/ since 2011, and if there's anything that "the bronies" are of one mind about, I must have missed it. We can't agree on how many feet a horse has.

Last edited at Thu, Oct 16th, 2014 21:03

Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) 36781376

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>>36781374

5.

Dee Twenty(Element of Cheer)!Nat20kBygE 36781381

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>>36781374

Dee thought horses were measured in hands, not feet.

Last edited at Thu, Oct 16th, 2014 21:38

Nother Nonymous (Element of Threadkilling) 36781383

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>>36781376
>>36781381

See what I mean?

36781398

>>36781339
I thought Twilight's Kingdom was the bad one. Again, it disempowered and victimized the Mane Five, while stripping them of their character-development given to them in their own key episodes, just so that we could have a bloated DBZ fight between Twilight and Tirek.

And as I said, the key episodes weren't really that bad. They have all the problems you disliked, but they weren't bad. They gave the Mane Five meaningful character-development and relevancy to the season-long story-arc, before the finale casually discarded them in-exchange for Twilight's Super Saiyan over-empowerment.

Besides, DBZ was even worse. Akira Toriyama's idea of character-development mostly involved power levels, where he overuses the saiyans like Goku, Vegeta, and their sons, while discarding all non-saiyan Z-warriors because they can't transform like the saiyans. Everything in DBZ had to revolve around power levels, to the point that story and character-development don't mean anything at all.

And that's the same downfall as Twilight's Kingdom. It discarded the Mane Five and disregarded their key episodes, just to turn Twilight into a Super Saiyan bad-ass. It's almost nothing but power levels, to the point that story and character-development stopped mattering, at least until the end.

Last edited at Fri, Oct 17th, 2014 02:09

36781404

>>36781398
>Akira Toriyama's idea of character-development mostly involved power levels

Actually, he wanted early on to show how pointless power levels were.

But back to what you spoke on; Yes, Twilight's Friends were captured and drained of their magic. This builds dramatic tension and leads up to the moral "Friendship means making sacrifices for those you love" or whatever it was. It also seems like at th eend you forget that ALL of the girls were rewarded for their hard work. Not only with unlocking Rainbow Power but with a castle that has equal seating for all of them (aside from Spike, but he is still young and is mostly assisting.)

DemonioBlanco 36781405

>>36781398
At least the DBZ battle wasnt the solution.

in fack it said "Twilight, this DBZ battle is stupid, so i will give you your friends back in exchange, so it can bite me in the ass later"

and twilight give away the power for her friends, and that is counting discord, and that is what solve the problem.

and it lasted like 2 minutes at best, i dont remember really how long it was.

beside, yea, since MMC how are you expecting a perfectly fine development?

36781406

>>36781405
What about the five key episodes? I mean, I understand that there are a lot of people who have grievances with them. But to me, at least they gave Twilight's five friends meaningful character-development and relevancy to the season-long story-arc.

DemonioBlanco 36781407

>>36781406
ok, and you are right.
from the key episodes, i think the only bad one is rainbow fall.
and just because i think is bad, that doesnt mean you dont have to like it.

just like i think the comic episode was boring, but people like it alot too.

and dont forget, Twilight's kingdom had the discord development, which was done right now.

Last edited at Fri, Oct 17th, 2014 07:31

36781408

>>36781407
And the Rainbow Power and Rainbow Castle? To me, they at least represented the Mane Six and their friendship with each other, and Twilight's new role as the Princess of Friendship.

DemonioBlanco 36781409

>>36781408
Rainbow power is a thing which dont have much context except being the thing which save the day at the last moment and get pretty much no explanation, or at least some context, it was pretty much "opening the box did this"

Rainbow Castle, is a toyetic gimmic, which poped out of nowhere just for the sake of because, if the friends are ultra great friends, i dont think the best thing which represent it is a castle with a cristal inorganic dessign.

specially because it have a sit for spike, which have nothing to do with the keys, but he got a sit anyway.

if you say it at least symbol something good, ok, i mean, at least the castle dont promote rape for what we know. so that make it good... i guess....

lets hope twilight shut her mouth up now that she know what is going to do. Instead of keep saying "i dont know what i have to do"

Last edited at Fri, Oct 17th, 2014 07:39

36781410

>>36781408
Do you need someone to agree with you? To say, 'yes you are right'?

36781413

>>36781409
And that's my problem all in a nutshell.

Again, every brony would disregard the five key episodes, the Rainbow Power, and the Rainbow Castle, and by extension friendship altogether. However, they'd praise the Twilight/Tirek fight, even though Twilight's friends were all victimized and disposed of, while she herself becomes the most overpowered thing in the universe.

As a result, there are two conclusions to this. Either the bronies want the show to give up on friendship altogether, so that it could be Twilight-centric at the expense of her friends. Or, Meghan McCarthy herself gave up on friendship altogether, and would casually dispose of Twilight's friends to turn her into an overpowered, Super Saiyan bad-ass.

36781414

>>36781410
What? You think the Rainbow Power and Rainbow Castle suck? That Twilight should become the ultimate, overpowered solution to everything, a la Goku and Vegeta, while her friends are brutally murdered to demonstrate a villain's powers, a la every non-saiyan Z-warrior in DBZ, and that friendship should stop mattering anymore?

Last edited at Fri, Oct 17th, 2014 08:53

DemonioBlanco 36781415

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_rt8orwb6c
>>36781413
maybe is the bronies?

but at the same time, just because some say something it shouldnt matter to you at all.

alot of people know no good, some could even want stuff like cupcakes be referenced in the show.

>>36781414
and again, you are missing completly the point. TWILIGHT DIDNT WON DBZ STYLE!!!!

AT ALL!!!

The show never, ever, have mentioned or suggested that twilight going DBZ style was the solution.

Giving stuff up was for friendship (including discord, the one which you could think shouldnt be forgiven), it being the way to go, sure it just mean another rainbow will come along and shoot a laser, but hey, it isnt at all anything you say.

Last edited at Fri, Oct 17th, 2014 08:54

Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) 36781422

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>>36781404
>Actually, he wanted early on to show how pointless power levels were.


actually derailing for a moment here to talk about DBZ XD

I know that he wanted to do that, but he honestly failed pretty badly in it. I think it probably had alot to do with fan demands (like how he had to renege on Gohan as Goku's successor, or how he had to keep introducing more super saiyan levels), but it started to end up pretty squarely in "If you are not this high in super saiyan levels, you are utterly useless".

Like, when they actually tried to AVERT it it was hugely notable for being a break from tradition. And this was almost always few and far between (pretty much everyone who wasn't a super saiyan was utterly worthless in the Buu saga, with the only outlier being Hercule)

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781424

>>36781398
>Akira Toriyama's idea of character-development mostly involved power levels
OK GOING TO HAVE TO STOP YOU THERE, one of DBZ's biggest strengths is the character development, the characters really change and develop through the series. Yeah, most of the focus is on the fights, but on the side of the fighting you have Piccolo's growing relationship with Gohan, Vegeta's relationship with his family, and how he misses being a destroyer, Goku's poor parenthood being addressed at the Cell Saga finale, Gohan's growth as a fighter and a person through the series, Krillin's development as a character through the series, and a lot of other minor side character moments. The reason why I'm invested so much in the fights on DBZ is because of the characters. I know the characters, I love the characters, and I care about the outcome of their fights. It's the reason why I didn't give much of a shit about the fight between Tirek and Twilight, at that point I just didn't care about Twilight anymore, and Tirek was just a standard run-of-the-mill villain so obviously I'm not going to root for him. In the end, it might as well have been a fistfight between two strangers for all I cared.

Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) 36781425

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>>36781424

on that note, this is kind of why I almost ROOTED for buu against Gotenks.


Good lord do I hate gotenks, I want to dick punch the little snot. Goten and trunks are annoying as is, when they fuse its like an unholy union of arrogance and stupidity.

Marimo!Mrb.TaRPks 36781428

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCM8GFxIWXI
>>36781425
I imagine you must've liked the part at 2:50 (assuming you've seen Battle of Gods already).

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781429

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>>36781425
What about Vegito?

36781430

>>36781422
Which was what was wrong with not only the Twilight/Tirek fight, but also the bronies and the way they disregarded the five key episodes, the Rainbow Power, and Rainbow Castle for that fight.

Again, friendship had stopped mattering to them. The Mane Five were irrelevant to them because of their crappy power levels and their victimization by Tirek. Twilight, meanwhile, was being praised for her power levels. MLP had all of a sudden became about power levels instead of friendship, where you're either as all-powerful as Twilight herself, or as useless and disposable as her friends.

And people didn't mind it at all, just so that they could praise the fight scene despite its deliberate abandonment of the show's friendship themes.

Last edited at Fri, Oct 17th, 2014 12:09

Marimo!Mrb.TaRPks 36781431

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4c-Y8diIBE
>>36781429
I think the difference between Gotenks and Goku and Vegeta's fusions is that Gotenks is usually just overly cocky, but doesn't really seem that powerful in his fights (in fact, I don't think he's even won any fights besides against minions in some movies), so it's just a kid bragging. With Vegito/Gogeta, he's also cocky, but he tends to at least be able to back it up by being so overpowered that he can play with his opponents and be entertaining, like beating up Buu as a piece of candy, even if he also doesn't actually end up winning some of his fights due to the fusion being undone.

36781433

>>36781431
Please, don't derail this thread. This is actually about the bronies' praise for the Twilight/Tirek fight at the expense of the five key episodes, the Rainbow Power, Rainbow Castle, and the friendship themes that tied them all together, and why I'm utterly baffled by this crap.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781435

>>36781433
You've made five fucking threads whining about this shit already. Grow a fucking spine and move on. Or isent yourself before you wreck yourself.

Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) 36781436

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>>36781428

Yes, very much XD
Though, I actually found buu the best part.


To be honest, I actually haven't watched the movie besides promos yet, as everytime i've looked i've only found the japanese version with subtitles and i've been looking for a dub.
I Probably should look for it again, its probably been long enough by now for the dubbed version to be watchable somewhere.


>>36781429
>>36781431


Vegeto's different. He screws around, but he doesn't spend quite as much time Boasting. Half of Gotenks is him talking about how awesome he is, while when vegito screws around its to joke.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781438

>>36781436
I found Gojeta way worse, to be perfectly honest.

Blowing an opportunity to defeat the bad guy because you're highly emotional or he revealed an ace up his sleeve, that's fine. Blowing it because you're a fucking asshole is completely different.

Just another reason as to why GT is shit.

Marimo!Mrb.TaRPks 36781440

>>36781436
Watchcartoononline.com has it.

>>36781438
To be fair, he would've won normally, but he was powerful enough that the time limit was even shorter for SS4 Gogeta.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781442

>>36781440
HE COULD HAVE JUST WIPED HIM OUT WITH A BIG-BANG KAMEHAMEHA! BUT NO! HE KEEPS FUCKING AROUND LIKE AN IDIOT.

GOOD JOB, YOU NEARLY DOOMED THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE, SHITHEAD.

36781444

>>36781442
Again, you're all derailing this thread and making it about DBZ.

This is about the bronies and how baffling it was to me to see them like the Twilight/Tirek fight scene, but dislike the five key episodes, Rainbow Power, and Rainbow Castle, thus disregarding friendship and all the things that made them bronies in the first place.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781445

>>36781444
You've already said that over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

For god's sake, cram it already, we get it, you're a weak-willed wuss who needs public opinion on your side to have conviction of your beliefs, we don't need to hear it for the 1.204th time.

36781446

>>36781445
Again, I'm called weak-willed, because I'm letting public opinion control me when it shouldn't. Right?

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781447

>>36781446
Yes. You're incredibly weak-willed.

It's not even that everybody is calling you wrong, it's that everybody just isn't on your side.

Marimo!Mrb.TaRPks 36781449

>>36781446
>>36781447
Also EternalNothingness, no matter what people say, the conversation never goes anywhere. You just repeat the same things, with the only thing I've seen change is you claiming all bronies "Want the series to abandon friendship so that the others can die and Twilight can have super saiyan fights" to claiming all bronies "Want the series to abandon friendship so that the others can die and Twilight can have super saiyan fights and also have the show promote racism too".

If a conversation doesn't go anywhere, then it can't be helped if people lose interest in the topic, which is apparently just about how you feel about TK and people who like it, and start to go off topic.

Dee Twenty(Element of Cheer)!Nat20kBygE 36781450

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>>36781449

But who wouldn't like TK? eh punches evil dictators and doesn't afraid of anything!

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781451

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>>36781449
Yeah, that too. Mr. Butler Murder Case Bear has a point.

Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) 36781452

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>>36781450


TK was freaking boss. he was also the ONLY new (Okay, he wasn't new, but you know what I mean, the new group) digidestined who didn't bitch the fuck out about killing Evil Digimon.

SERIOUSLY, they're called things like "Skullsatanomon" and trying to murder humans and you're still bitching about it being wrong to kill them?
Good god, compared to the original kids who did what had to be done and knew sacrifices had to be made, the new ones were such pussies :p






On that note, still pissed that the ending of Adventure 2 was so shitty. there was like a billion loose threads (Daimon anyone? Dagomon?), and they ended it on THAT?!

Last edited at Fri, Oct 17th, 2014 15:10

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781455

>>36781452
>SERIOUSLY, they're called things like "Skullsatanomon" and trying to murder humans and you're still bitching about it being wrong to kill them?
In their defense, not everyone is born a killer. Some people just aren't very comfortable with the idea of killing another sentient thinking being. Ending a life, even once, can harbor serious mental issues.

On the other hand, it's a kids show, we can skip the mental trauma BS and focus on actually interesting stuff. I don't want to see characters undergoing serious mental issues in my all-ages entertainment... Unless it's Archie Comics Megaman, then it's allowed.

Cookie_Crumbs 36781456

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>>36781452
Maybe he didn't mind killing the Digimons so much because his Digimon was killed once and he knows first hand they get reincarnated?

Dee Twenty(Element of Cheer)!Nat20kBygE 36781457

>>36781456

For a while the village where the Digimon were reborn as eggs was destroyed because killing Digimon for realsies is deep.

Marimo!Mrb.TaRPks 36781458

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>>36781455
>Unless it's Archie Comics Megaman, then it's allowed.
Speaking of Mega Man comics, I was wondering what the Brazilian comic series was like if you read it. I think all I've really heard about it is that it's infamous for all the Roll nudity and X is also there and is a creepy pervert around Roll.

Unless that somehow is all there is to the series.

Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) 36781459

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>>36781456

well, killing a digimon in the human world was a perma kill as well, and they didn't seem too slow to murder myotismon and his goons previously.


>>36781455

Yeah, If I wanted to see Wangst I'd go watch evangelion (which isn't a series I like that much due to all the wangst. Plus, I hate existentialism)

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781461

>>36781458
Oh, just because I'm Brazillian you assume I read The New Adventures of Megaman, huh? I am very offended by that remark despise the fact that it lacks any negative stereotypes or insults regarding my nationality or personality. I better make a post on my Tumblr that I don't have about the oppression of the cis-patriarchy.

But seriously, I haven't read it either man. All that I know about it is that it's a sort of dystopia future where all the old robots have been destroyed save for Roll and Megaman, X is a wimp and a pervert, Roll is constantly naked and is more of a main character than Megaman, Bass is called Slasher for some fucking reason, the artwork is butt-ugly, and it makes me kinda ashamed for being Brazillian. It's the antithesis of the Archie Comics series: It's a story about Roll pretending to be about Megaman that tries to be dark and mature but is very childish and imature because of shitty jokes, tired clichés, annoying characters, and pandering to the lowest common denominator.

To the whole Megaman fandom from all of Brazil: We're sorry. The responsible will be sacked.

Just keep reading Archie Comics Megaman, it's possibly the best comic series I have ever read.

>>36781459
Well, I don't watch Evangelion because I hate pretentious symbolism and annoying as shit characters.

Last edited at Fri, Oct 17th, 2014 18:15

Marimo!Mrb.TaRPks 36781462

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>>36781461
Hmm. Guess I probably will just skip checking that out.

Glad to know you're still enjoying the current Archie series.

Last edited at Fri, Oct 17th, 2014 18:17

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781464

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>>36781462
Dude.

Look at this cover.

Look at it.

You're not missing anything. In fact, I'll bet anything you'll be an old man, dying in your bed, contemplating all your feats in life, and at your last breath you'll think about your decision to skip this, smile ear-to-ear, and then peacefully pass away, content with your entire life

Marimo!Mrb.TaRPks 36781465

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>>36781464
>Look at this cover.
I don't know if you can post that cover because I can't tell if Roll is naked or just wearing skin colored clothes.

36781466

>>36781414
That doesn't answer my question and yet at the same time it does.

I reiterate. Get over it.

>>36781445
>For god's sake, cram it already, we get it, you're a weak-willed wuss who needs public opinion on your side to have conviction of your beliefs, we don't need to hear it for the 1.204th time.

That's why I'm telling him to get over it.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781467

>>36781465
Nah, she's fully clothed. Roll has metal nipples.

D... Don't ask...

By the way, the artwork inside the comic is even worse. It looks like it was drawn by a 13-year old.

And this shit was sold on comic book stands.

There was including a very "dramatic" splash page of a bunch of Robot Mast- sorry, "NeoMavericks" (WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?) slaughtering a bunch of humans in cold blood (with actual blood and dismemberment), but it looks so shitty that it makes me yell WHY IN GOD'S NAME DID YOU THINK THIS WAS OK TO RELEASE?

If you really want to know what happens in it, though, you can take a look at this summary: http://acidocinza.byethost13.com/index.php?pagina=summaries_nadmm

Last edited at Fri, Oct 17th, 2014 18:37

Dee Twenty(Element of Cheer)!Nat20kBygE 36781468

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>>36781465

Technically isn't Megaman naked on the cover as well? They're robots after all, so they'd have Barbie doll anatomy.

Marimo!Mrb.TaRPks 36781469

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>>36781468
Going by other series like the games and Archie comics, the blue parts are just armor that he wears over civilian clothes and synthetic skin.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781470

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>>36781468
Or maybe they have metal nipples.

I'm probably going to get banned for this (again), but who has two thumbs and doesn't give a fuck? This guy!

Clonehunter!Flakygyd4M 36781471

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Yah, fuck brownies. They ruin everything.

DemonioBlanco 36781473

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>>36781470
well, thouse are nipples for ants.
and technically are not nipples, are like nipple covers.

now, we knew scientist was pervs.
i mean, in chobits computers are little girls with wahaHA!s
and cortana is all naked and in each update she becomes more pervert fuel.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781474

>>36781473
...Why do Cortana's breasts have weight in Halo 3-4?

DemonioBlanco 36781475

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>>36781474
Because they maybe have some boobs engine.

i was going to say the team ninja engine.
but that one ignore weight.

in any case, the update of her look in universe got more "natural" looking, so it is more appealing?

Last edited at Fri, Oct 17th, 2014 19:10

Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) 36781476

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>>36781467
>"NeoMavericks"


Well, that actually isn't that strange of a name.
While "Maverick" is a classification for Criminal, insane or dangerous reploids, One could also use "Maverick" as the term for the army underneath sigma that was defeated in X1: In a sense, The term maverick could also specifically refer to an army instead of just a classification.



In such a sense, these mavericks would be attempting to differentiate themselves from "Normal" Criminal mavericks by saying they were a unified rebellion instead in a similiar manner to Sigma's mavericks, Hence calling themselves the "New mavericks".

Basically "we're not just a bunch of criminal scum, we're here with PURPOSE".


>>36781467

On that note, If i'm remembering correctly, didn't someone on the staff of that comic attempt to kill off the entire Megaman universe of characters and make it about an OC of theirs before they got fired?

Last edited at Fri, Oct 17th, 2014 19:19

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781477

>>36781476
THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE CRIMINALS, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THE REPLOIDS OF THIS COMIC! THE HUMAN CREATORS WERE THE ONES WHO NAMED THEM NEO-MAVERICKS! SIGMA ISN'T EVEN IN THIS, AND AMONGST THE INITIAL ASSAULT WERE FIREMAN AND ELECMAN!

IT'S LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THESE COMICS ONLY HEARD ABOUT MEGAMAN FROM SECOND-HAND INFORMATION! BASS IS A PUSSY NAMED SLASHER WHO WAS CREATED BY DR. THOMAS MOTHERFUCKING LIGHT!

This comic drives me to hysterics over how not Megaman it is. You want a mature Megaman comic series? Look up the Archie Comics series. It's a fascinating read that dwelves in the nature of humanity, robotics, and family, while having great action and characters.

>didn't someone on the staff of that comic attempt to kill off the entire Megaman universe of characters and make it about an OC of theirs before they got fired?
Yes.
It was apparently under the guise of rebellion under how under appreciated Brazillian creators are.

Now, Brazillian creators like to break the fourth wall, but Princess really pushed it. The last seven pages of Issue 2 where about her complaining about the Brazilian comics industry and how she wanted to kill the entire cast of the comic to make it her own. She's literally shoved off the comic in Issue 7.

She was created under the banner of national pride, yet I felt nothing but shame for my country as I read about her.

Again, to the Megaman Fandom from Brazil: We're sorry.

Last edited at Fri, Oct 17th, 2014 19:25

Marimo!Mrb.TaRPks 36781478

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>>36781476
After reading a bit, I don't think regular Mavericks even existed before the Neo Mavericks, or existed at all in this series. There's no Zero virus (Zero was made by Light in this series) and no Sigma. In fact, they seemed to have been built with the names Neo Maverick before even going evil.

And yep. Looks like the writer was planning on doing that but was caught and fired by the 7th issue. Also apparently the reason for the art's quality, or lack of, along with an inconsistent style is that the company who made these comics hired fans, most of which rarely worked on more than one issue, maybe two.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781479

>>36781478
BTW Marimo, I have read the Worlds Collide crossover, and found it to be quite good, despise the rather anti-climatic ending (Maybe because it ended rebooting the archie comics Sonic series... which I don't read).

Though right now I hope they make a Megaman X side-series.

Marimo!Mrb.TaRPks 36781480

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>>36781479
>BTW Marimo, I have read the Worlds Collide crossover, and found it to be quite good, despise the rather anti-climatic ending (Maybe because it ended rebooting the archie comics Sonic series... which I don't read).
Also good to hear.

>Though right now I hope they make a Megaman X side-series.
I imagine they probably were testing the waters as well as helping to establish the characters then with the arc covering #37-40 and the backup story before that. I also remember reading the writer would be very interested in writing an X series too. So it's probably likely.

Though I worry how much they can stretch Flynn, considering he's already working on the main series, the Sonic main series and the Sonic Universe series, and soon the upcoming Sonic Boom series.

Last edited at Fri, Oct 17th, 2014 19:37

Dee Twenty(Element of Cheer)!Nat20kBygE 36781482

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>>36781480

Clearly the solution is to pull him off the Sonic books, that ship's been sinking for years anyhow.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781483

>>36781480
Hm, you have a point. I thought about that too.

Seriously, props to the guy, he gets Megaman. I heard that before writing the series he watched a lot of gameplay footage and researched a lot of facts about the series. I don't know if he played the games before or not, but if he did, kudos, because he sneaks in all sorts of obscure references to the gameplay and the series, sometimes he has me scratching my head, and I'm a lifelong fan of Megaman.

It's amazing how they managed to work in Super Adventure Rockman, and how they turned Break Man from a silly secret identity of Protoman to a fully-fledged phase of his character. If I could marry a comic book series, I'd totally do it.

Marimo!Mrb.TaRPks 36781484

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>>36781482
They just got done wiping away pretty much every last trace of the previous comic writers' work and characters, and Flynn has had to establish the rebooted world as well as retool all the SatAM characters. I don't think replacing him so soon after starting all that would be a good idea.

Plus the comics have still been doing well since he's taken over writing.

>>36781483
I know. I remember during Worlds Collide I was wondering what are these characters called the Genesis Unit, and then found out that he managed to fit the characters exclusive to the only Sega Genesis Mega Man game into the crossover with Sonic.

Last edited at Fri, Oct 17th, 2014 20:05

Dee Twenty(Element of Cheer)!Nat20kBygE 36781485

>>36781484

>They just got done wiping away pretty much every last trace of the previous comic writers' work and characters

More importantly did they wipe away all those shitty characters from the games?

Marimo!Mrb.TaRPks 36781486

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>>36781485
On the contrary. He uses them, and in a lot fans' opinions has improved their characterizations to the point where they're likable, like Silver. He even uses characters that either haven't been seen in a long time, like Bean and Bark, or are just really obscure, like Grand Battle Kukku XV and the Bird Armada from Tails Adventure. Though he hasn't really had the chance to use many of them since the reboot. He's used Chip, but it hasn't been for long, and I believe he's been positively received too.

Dee Twenty(Element of Cheer)!Nat20kBygE 36781487

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>>36781486

Screw that noise, then. There's no redeeming those crappy 3D era characters.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781488

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>>36781487
Bitch, if you talk shit about Blaze I will piledrive your face against a concrete divider.

Dee Twenty(Element of Cheer)!Nat20kBygE 36781489

>>36781488

Which shitty Sonic recolour is named Blaze? I assume it's a red one.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781490

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>>36781489
It's a kittykat. The only thing red will be you if you do not shut your horse mouth.

Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) 36781491

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H70emkCT8o
>>36781487

Dude, the 3d era of sonic is my FAVORITE.

The definitive sonic moment for me will ALWAYS be flying through space with "live and learn" blaring in the background trying to stop a space station from slamming into the planet.


There is no moment in sonic history that i will ever remember more than that moment: In fact, before Sonic adventure 2 I actually was NOT a fan of sonic! i did not really care for the genesis games.


>>36781478
>zero was made by Light

da...fuq? I mean, that's like inverting his entire purpose XD

Eh, there's alot worse in that comic than that though.

Dee Twenty(Element of Cheer)!Nat20kBygE 36781494

>>36781491

SatAM and the Archie comics were the only Sonic Dee ever cared about, until they started adding all those crappy characters like the tithog from the games and Sonic X.

Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) 36781495

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI-FxbJ8g1k
>>36781494

I can't knock SATAM sonic. Dr. Robotik is an INCREDIBLE villain.


but video games? that has nothing to do with the video games to me ;p
Its best to think of SATAM as its own thing basically, and not as sonic. It just works better that way.

Dee Twenty(Element of Cheer)!Nat20kBygE 36781496

>>36781495

>Its best to think of SATAM as its own thing basically

Hence why I hated it when they started introducing a bunch of characters I can't stand from the games into the comics that had been based more on SatAM.

Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) 36781497

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>>36781496

but you shouldn't hate the *GAMES* for that though. They can't be blamed for what occurs in a different medium-- the only way they could avoid Sega mandating things is to simply cease the games altogether, and that's just as bad a prospect ;)

Dee Twenty(Element of Cheer)!Nat20kBygE 36781498

>>36781497

Dee thinks it's perfectly fair to hate games with not only thoroughly unlikeable characters but thoroughly unfun gameplay as well.

Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) 36781500

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opCIeSTzyrk
>>36781498

and THIS is where i'm faulting you. Go back to my post >>36781491


Sonic adventure 2, in Shadow and sonic's levels was PURE nirvana.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781502

>>36781500
Good, because the tails/eggman and knuckles/rouge levels were crap.

Sorry, I like Sonic Adventure 1 way better. Well, gameplay-wise, I mean, plotwise SA2 is the best Sonic game.

Dee Twenty(Element of Cheer)!Nat20kBygE 36781503

>>36781500

Fun fact, Dee hates 3D platformers. Dee hated Mario 64, Dee hated Sonic Adventure, Dee hated DK64.

Marimo!Mrb.TaRPks 36781504

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>>36781495
>Its best to think of SATAM as its own thing basically, and not as sonic. It just works better that way.
The divide between the show and the comics is even greater when you consider that they had to redesign the SatAM characters to look more like the SEGA Sonic style.

>>36781498
Though isn't it a bit unfair to hate the characters just based on their game counterparts while disrearding how they might be handled differently in the comics?

Dee Twenty(Element of Cheer)!Nat20kBygE 36781505

>>36781504

Ye gods those redesigns are fucking terrible.

>Though isn't it a bit unfair to hate the characters just based on their game counterparts while disrearding how they might be handled differently in the comics?

Maybe, but then it's also unfair for SatAM to be cancelled with no resolution while that shitty Sonic X show ran for longer than Dee would like to imagine, or for SEGA to force a bunch of crappy characters onto the comics, so Dee doesn't feel particularly inclined towards fairness when dealing with SEGA or their lousy characters.

Marimo!Mrb.TaRPks 36781506

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>>36781505
>SEGA to force a bunch of crappy characters onto the comics
That part isn't really SEGA's doing. Flynn brings in game characters because he wants to use them.

Dee Twenty(Element of Cheer)!Nat20kBygE 36781507

>>36781506

Then that's even more reason to remove him from the books so he can focus on Megaman instead.

Marimo!Mrb.TaRPks 36781508

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>>36781507
Except people like how he writes the game characters.

Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) 36781509

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNoVTWSgZTk
>>36781505
>Maybe, but then it's also unfair for SatAM to be cancelled with no resolution while that shitty Sonic X show ran for longer than Dee would like to imagine, or for SEGA to force a bunch of crappy characters onto the comics, so Dee doesn't feel particularly inclined towards fairness when dealing with SEGA or their lousy characters.



but you can't blame the games for that! that was pretty much all ABC's president's Doing! Dude didn't like SATAM, and With Power rangers eating into Sonic's Ratings, he decided to axe the show.

Dee Twenty(Element of Cheer)!Nat20kBygE 36781510

>>36781508

Still sounds like a win/win to Dee, the writer can focus on telling good Megaman stories, a writer who hates the shitty SEGA characters can throw them under a bus, everyone wins!

>>36781509

Dee doesn't care who's fault it is, the point is the things Dee likes about Sonic have been treated unfairly for years.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781512

>>36781510
Do you even read Archie Comics Megaman? Just curious.

Dee Twenty(Element of Cheer)!Nat20kBygE 36781515

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>>36781512

Dee's been meaning to get around to it sooner or later since Dee hears good things about it, but then Dee gets distracted by other things like Himegoto, or Ore Twintails ni Narimasu and forgets about it.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781517

>>36781515
You definitly should read it. For an all-ages comic it's pretty adult. It's amazing how it deconstructs the Megaman franchise by showing how creating robots as advanced as the Robot Masters can be dangerous, and how humanity may not be ready to have such power, while at the same time reconstructing it by showing how helpful they are for mankind. Dr. Wily is also an amazing villain in this.

Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) 36781518

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>>36781517

I really need to find a place to Pirate Download it. I've heard great things about it.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781521

>>36781518
Dude, you should. It's great. The first three arcs aren't very special, but it really picks up in the "Spiritus Ex Machina" arc, where they start having a serious discussion on the nature of robotics and humanity, as well as Megaman and the other Light Bots thinking outside of the box to deal with a human threat, since they cannot just blast them as they are three-laws compliant.

Also, if you're not interested in the Worlds Collide crossover, you can skip from Issue 23 to Issue 28. The crossover has no impact on the comic series whatsoever, save for an earlier issue that only existed to get less knowledgeable readers up to speed on certain characters who play a part in it, since the crossover takes place some time in the future of the comic.

Last edited at Fri, Oct 17th, 2014 22:47

Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) 36781522

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AE33FkS0eA
>>36781521

Trust me, you don't have to sell me on it. I'm fully interested in reading it.

Marimo!Mrb.TaRPks 36781528

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>>36781518
I know a few places (which issues they have vary so I can't really point to one spot), and can probably send you some. Have you read any of the comics before, or do you need all of them from the start? And are you interested in checking out Worlds Collide too?

>>36781521
>save for an earlier issue that only existed to get less knowledgeable readers up to speed on certain characters who play a part in it
Which issue was that? If you're referring to Mega Man #20, that one was actually made because Capcom wanted the comic to do something to celebrate Mega Man's 25th birthday.

Last edited at Fri, Oct 17th, 2014 23:15

Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) 36781531

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>>36781528

I'm interested in all of them actually: Especially worlds collide actually. from what I hear Robotnik pulls an "I'm more sadistic than you" bit in it and tries to kill of dr. Light when Wily was keeping him prisoner, and that sounds really interesting.


I wouldn't want to miss any of it truth be told, as from what I've heard its all good.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781532

>>36781531
Well, it's not out of sadism, he tries to do that because Dr. Light was a liability to their plans.

Dee Twenty(Element of Cheer)!Nat20kBygE 36781533

>>36781532

Hmm... That's actually an interesting conundrum, on the one hoof he's a hazard to your plan if left alive, on the other hoof killing him would really piss off Megaman and there's a good chance he'd forget the three laws, or since it's Robotnik he's sure to have a roboticising chamber somewhere nearby, and the three laws don't say anything about not killing another robot.

Marimo!Mrb.TaRPks 36781534

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>>36781531
Alright, gonna send them in chunks. The first 20 issues have been collected into paperbacks, and you should've gotten an email for them.

I'll work on collecting the rest tomorrow.

Last edited at Fri, Oct 17th, 2014 23:34

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781535

>>36781533
Actually Eggman does not give a shit about what Megaman feels, nor what Wily feels, since he just sneaks out to dump Dr. Light overboard behind his back, Dr. Wily objects to killing Dr. Light because he's not a complete monster like Eggman. He wants his arch-nemesis defeated and humiliated, not murdered. It's not even like they can just forget the three laws. Elecman openly expresses the desire to be able to simply ignore them when dealing with a group of human terrorists.

Oh yeah, I should also mention, the father-son bond is a lot more prominent in the Archie Comics. Megaman very often refers to Dr. Light as "dad".

Last edited at Fri, Oct 17th, 2014 23:38

Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) 36781536

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>>36781534

sounds good :)

probably won't be able to read all of them till monday due to a busy weekend, but looking forward to them :)


Hell, I haven't even sat down to watch the new non-cam rip Rainbow rocks yet XD (Wanted to see the Final alicorn attack in good quality for a while)

36781540

>>36781535
How did we go from DBZ, to Digimon, to Megaman and Sonic?

I mean, isn't this about my problems with the bronies and their baffling reactions to the five key episodes and the S4 finale?

36781541

>>36781540
But as you can see, no one cares.

So, Build a Bridge and Get Over It.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781542

>>36781540
Maybe if you make a "discussion" (And I use that term in quotes because it's less of a discussion as it is your platform to whine and complain about the perceived public opinion of the finale, considering you completely reject any input given by us) about something other than your incredibly weak will and how bronies are mean poopheads for not marching in lockstep with your views, we won't feel so compelled to derail it in five minutes.

Anonymous 36781543

>>36781540
every thread in the history of /pony/, no matter what the topic, has derailed into anime.

36781545

>>36781542
You know, you calling me weak-willed almost reminds me of a certain story.

I used to like DBZ, mostly for concepts like increasing power levels with transformations. But then I read this negative, 2/5 star review of DBZ [themanime.org] , telling me to hate it for its violence, not despite it.

So yeah, I'm weak-willed. I never bother trying out a product, so I turn to reviews of those products to tell me if I should get them. This review was no different, in that it not only criticized DBZ, but also persuaded me into hating it myself, to the point that I can't enjoy the Twilight/Tirek fight, either, because of its resemblance to DBZ, both in-terms of the lasers and explosions, as well as the deliberate disposing of the hero's friends exchanged for said hero's over-empowerment and almost-Mary Sue status.

Last edited at Sat, Oct 18th, 2014 10:08

36781546

>>36781545
Why are we bothering with this guy?! He is refusing to discuss the point, saying he is weak willed, isn't even defending himself.

He is both demanding that we appease him and then asks that we pity him!

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781547

>>36781545
Thanks for proving my point, now grow a spine.

Marimo!Mrb.TaRPks 36781548

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>>36781545
>telling me to hate it for its violence, not despite it.
I'm honestly getting a different read than you did. He's not criticizing the violence, but more the padding that keeps you from the violence (and considering this is DBZ, it's more likely he's referring to someone powering up and other people staring at the guy powering up). He even says
>You can only go so many episodes watching buildup to a fight that lasts all of three seconds.
>But it IS a glorious three seconds
He's actually complimenting when there's actual fighting going on because the fights are enjoyable.

The only thing he really criticizes the fights is that combined with the padding, it takes too much time away which could've been used for character development and character interaction. Which isn't really as applicable to TK because Twilight and Tirek's fight is only a few minutes out of a two part episode.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781549

>>36781548
And it's also a criticism I find a bit misplaced because the constant padding was because of the slower production of the Manga. Dragon Ball Kai makes the show a lot more expedient by cutting down on the fat.

It does get rid of Goku's driving lessons, though.

Dee Twenty(Element of Cheer)!Nat20kBygE 36781554

>>36781540

>How did we go from DBZ, to Digimon, to Megaman and Sonic?

Just another day in /pony/dise~

Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) 36781568

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTOjDMv0wUQ
>>36781549

36781580

>>36781548
Another thing he never got a chance to criticize was the fact that many non-saiyan Z-warriors, as well as others like Bulma, all get discarded for Goku, Vegeta, and their sons, all five of whom were saiyans. Again, it's mostly due to Akira Toriyama pushing himself into a corner with his own world-building mechanics regarding Super Saiyans.

Which is almost the same problem I had with the Twilight/Tirek fight. It may have lasted for a minute in an entire nine-episode-long story-arc, but like the DBZ example, it discarded the Mane Five and disregarded their key episodes, just to set up a fight scene between Twilight and Tirek.

36781588

>>36781580
But it lead nowhere. The end of the fight has Tirek and Twilight both right where they started, not depleated of magic or damaged at all, with only damanged terrain to show for it.

Later, Twilight AND HER FRIENDS get their "Super Saiyin" moment and take the guy down easily.

So I don't' know what you are going on about.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781594

>>36781588
But Mark, the BRONIES don't think so, they want Twilight's friends to die so that she can take over the show and make it about being a Super Equestrian Warrior!

36781596

>>36781594
Please don't feed the dellusional.

36781597

>>36781588
Don't forget, the five key episodes. Even if the Mane Five were victimized, at least they were given moments of character-development in their own key episodes. Unlike DBZ, where every non-saiyan Z-warrior stopped having character-arcs and are instead reduced to background extras.

Last edited at Sun, Oct 19th, 2014 10:47

36781600

>>36781280
And you know, for all of my talk about death and killing, there were two sets of deaths I didn't mind at all. The first were the four Inner Senshi's deaths [prettysoldierproject.com] , and the second included four of Shepard's squadmates from Mass Effects 1 and 3, including Kaidan/Ash in Mass Effect 1, and Mordin, Thane, and Legion in Mass Effect 3.

I'm technically not saying that death should never happen in fiction. After all, if I wanted to see a character killed off, I would've liked to see him or her heroically sacrifice him/herself to ensure someone else's survival, like those eight aforementioned deaths from Sailor Moon and Mass Effect, respectively. Not only that, but said deaths, again like the eight aforementioned deaths, need to have impact, unlike the majority of deaths in DBZ, where none of the deaths have any impact, and at times even end up trivialized, either because someone died to demonstrate a villain's power levels, or the villain survived or self-regenerated.

So really, by the time Season Five comes out and we reach its finale, and Meghan McCarthy up and decides to dispose of Twilight's friends like with Tirek, I don't want to see them go down as victims. Instead, I would've liked to see the Mane Five heroically sacrifice themselves to ensure Twilight Sparkle's survival, to go down fighting for the magic of friendship. After all, it worked for Ami, Rei, Makoto, and Minako, as well as Kaidan/Ashley, Mordin, Thane, and Legion. So why not Pinkie Pie, Rainbow Dash, Applejack, Rarity, and Fluttershy?

Last edited at Sun, Oct 19th, 2014 12:18

Fluttershutters!vBKzsttvbU 36781607

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>>36781280
Heard there was someone on /pony/ that people were thinking was me, so I thought I'd check it out.


My first recommendation to you is to not watch Youtubers, they're usually Hasdrones and even when they're not they're still attention horses.

Breezies is a horrible episode, probably the worst Fluttershy episode because it doesn't show anything good about Fluttershy at all; she doesn't even earn her key in it, the problem is just magicked away by Twilicorn.

Never watched the finale since it was obvious who it was going to shill; I admire you for having the dedication to sit through it, I couldn't get through most of the episodes for the latter half of Season 4.


As to being the minority, I just recommend not giving up. There's always hope that McCarthy gets fired (because by this point I don't think she's going to rescind her changes to the show) and someon more competent be put in charge. Make sure people know you're dissatisfied, but at the same time, I'd really dial back on the aggressiveness. Get too aggressive and it discredits you, you get filtered, and people generally view you as some kind of retard or annoyance, which I shouldn't even have to explain why you don't want that. You shouldn't be talking about it at every opportunity, just when you need to defend your point of view.

Having mixed feelings isn't a bad thing; there's more than just two opinions in the fandom, after all. It's best to look at the positives in people when you can, so long as they have a positive aspect (I know one or two people that don't). Don't let arguments get too personal, and all. I think I'm rambling at this point, it's been a while since I talked about ponies.

I just, I guess I'm just saying no need to overdiscuss something that everyone knows. Everyone knows Twilicorn is overfocused, whether they agree or not is a different story, but there isn't any benefit at this point to dragging it on longer than it needs to, unless it's relevant to the matter at hand.


tl;dr: Yeah a lot of bronies have subpar taste, but don't let them get you down, and definitely don't watch Youtube celebrities as they're full of shit.

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36781608

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>>36781518
Also yes, the Archie Megaman comics are pure fucking bliss, everyone should read them. If Marimo hasn't gotten to sending you the rest I have them all collected on my computer and could send them as well.

Anonymous 36781609

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>>36781608
Sent all of the issues up to #41 plus the ones for Worlds Collide to him yesterday. Assuming there's no problem downloading the comics through Gmail on his end, he should have them.

36781610

>>36781607
Aww, EN got a friend!

Lets lock them both in a room so they can share their delusions together forever~

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36781611

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>>36781610
Good to see you too.

36781612

File: 141377680187.png (1.15 MB, 1280x720, I see you.png)

>>36781611

Aye, it's good to see you as well, my friend.

Anonymous 36781613

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>>36781610
Let's try to keep this nice and civil.

Dee Twenty(Element of Cheer)!Nat20kBygE 36781614

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>>36781612

Mien~!

36781615

>>36781613
That was civil.

And I am saddened that I can't find a relevant image.

Anonymous 36781616

>>36781613
Shutter rolls in here, and starts tossing around a term like Hasdrone, and saying most bronies have subpar taste. We're well beyond the point of nice and civil.

Anonymous 36781617

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>>36781615
Perhaps requesting to be polite would be a more appropriate response to things like "lock them both in a room so they can share their delusions".

>>36781616
>>36781607
Though a good point, Fluttershutter referring to some people as Hasdrones and saying a lot of fans have subpar taste is also an impolite response to people with different opinions.

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36781618

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>>36781616
Well, I do find them to be subpar, as in, I don't find them to be good as mine.

Is that not a common thing, where people prefer their own tastes to others? It would be weird if you held someone else's opinion above your own, after all.

If I accidentally implied "subpar" was on some objective scale, I apologize and clarify that I was intending to speak subjectively. I'm sure plenty of people find my tastes to be subjectively subpar.

Not taking back the Youtuber part though. I've never seen a person who tried to review MLP on video that I didn't dislike.

Anonymous 36781619

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>>36781618
The interpretation most people would get would be that you're saying that objectively their personal judgments are of lower quality than yours. I'd suggest just saying something simple like a lot of bronies have different tastes than you.

Marimo!Mrb.TaRPks 36781620

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>>36781619
Wait a minute, I've been Anonymous this whole time?!

Admiral Yang Wenli 36781621

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>>36781616
Pssssh. Saying someone has shit taste is the internet golden standard. Compared to that, calling one's taste sub-par is abnormally civil.

Though hasdrone might be less civil, the remark wasn't directed at anyone present nor anyone who was likely to read the comment.

Admiral Yang Wenli 36781622

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>>36781620
We all recognized you, no worries.

Marimo!Mrb.TaRPks 36781624

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>>36781622
I know, but I imagine it would still look odd to people.

36781627

>>36781610
You could, if it weren't for Fluttershutters deliberately criticizing Breezies, when I found nothing wrong with it compared to that overhyped mess that was Twilight's Kingdom.

36781631

>>36781607
Also, what do you mean by "Youtubers"? Are you referring to Tommy Oliver and his criticisms of the season-long story-arc.

As for Breezies, it wasn't that terrible. The real terrible key episode was Twilight's Kingdom, again for its abandonment and disposing of Twilight's friends and their key episodes, exchanged for the Super Saiyan bad-assery of Twilight Sparkle herself. Again, it's all akin to DBZ: Tons of non-saiyan Z-warriors are disposed of or demoted to extras, while saiyans like Goku, Vegeta, and their sons take up all the spotlight on the account of their performance-enhancing transformations.

And again, I'm not saying death should never be included in fiction. The four inner senshi and Kaidan/Ash, Mordin, Thane, and Legion all sacrificed themselves to ensure Usagi Tsukino and Commander Shepard's survival, respectively. But at the same time, their deaths were given the most nuance, gravity, and respect any death should be given, unlike DBZ's deaths where they're all trivialized and exploited to demonstrate a villain's power levels.

If Meghan McCarthy wanted to dispose of Twilight's five friends, she could've let them go down fighting for Twilight, not end up victimized and disposed of to demonstrate a villain's power and cruelty. At least a heroic self-sacrifice is much more respectful and impactful than if a character is trivially victimized to raise the stakes.

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Marimo!Mrb.TaRPks 36781634

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>>36781631
There was an emotional impact due to how it was Discord who betrayed everyone by capturing them, particularly how he betrayed Fluttershy. And when he's betrayed he knows the pain his real friends went through because of his betrayal, and because of that, in addition to Twilight still considering him a friend and wanting him to be freed too despite his betrayal, that Twilight's key could be made.

Their capture does more than just raise the stakes for the Twilight vs Tirek, it gives weight and meaning to Discord's realization along with Twilight's choice to forgive him, which just goes to emphasize the show's theme of friendship, which becomes the key (both metaphorically and literally) to Tirek's defeat.

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36781638

>>36781634
What about the five key episodes? Say what you will about your grievances of them, at least they gave the Mane Five meaningful character-development, right before they were victimized and disposed of.

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36781643

>>36781638
So I checked the five key episodes on IMDB.com, and here were the user scores:

Rarity Takes Manehatten: 7.7

Pinkie Pride: 8.9

Rainbow Falls: 6.9

It Ain't Easy Being Breezies: 6.7

Leap of Faith: 7.1

Twilight's Kingdom 9.0

Once again, more people would rather that Twilight's friends be brutally murdered for their uselessness and crappy key episodes, while Twilight becomes the only solution to everything because of her power levels. Just as DBZ casually disposes of every non-saiyan Z-warrior, just to turn the saiyans into the ultimate saviors of the universe.

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Marimo!Mrb.TaRPks 36781644

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>>36781638
>Say what you will about your grievances of them
I didn't really have grievances.

>at least they gave the Mane Five meaningful character-development
TK, being Twilight's key episode, gave Twilight some development on her feelings about being a princess and gave her some better direction on what she can do in life.

>right before they were victimized and disposed of.
That they were captured and depowered does not negate their earlier development and contribution, so the two aren't really related. It is even Twilight's own depowering that helps create her contribution.

36781660

>>36781644
Well, a lot of people on IMDB did, and as a result gave Fluttershy and Rainbow Dash's key episodes a 6.7 and a 6.9, respectively. Rarity and Applejack's would be somewhere along the 7's which stands for "good, but not great", and Pinkie's would at least be 8.9.

But Twilight's Kingdom gets a 9.0, even though all it proved was that it was overhyped, and that people didn't mind Twilight's friends getting victimized and disposed of, so long as they get Super Saiyan Twilight. Just as every non-saiyan Z-warrior gets disposed of or reduced to extras in-exchange for the saiyans as the ultimate saviors.

In other words, the bronies had stopped caring about friendship. They want Twilight's friends to be brutally murdered, so that Twilight could hog the entire show for herself with her power levels, probably for the rest of the entire series.

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36781681

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>>36781631
Well of course S4E26 is a pile of shit, but just because worse things exist doesn't mean other things aren't still bad. Games like Megaman X7 exist that make games like Megaman and Bass look better by comparison, but Megaman and Bass is still awful for example.

Also,
>conceding killing off the rest of the mane six depending on how they do it

I'm not sure how Mondo thought you were me, because that's like the final taboo. Killing off supporting characters is one thing, but any way you slice it, what you're suggesting is still killing off more than 80% of the main cast while the one that remains gets all the spotlight for the rest of the series. Sounds like you've given up on things getting better.

36781682

>>36781681
That's because when you look at Sailor Moon, it did the same thing DBZ did on a regular basis, but better, at least in the first story-arc.

In the anime version, we spend the majority of it watching Usagi act scared and cowering, while all of her fellow Sailor Soldiers are the ones doing most of the fighting. So, during the finale, they deliberately killed off the four
soldiers to separate Usagi from her constant dependence on her friends.

Not only that, but their deaths were heroic sacrifices that had impact. They died to destroy several DD Girls, with Sailor Mercury sacrificing herself to destroy that illusion device. This isn't like DBZ, where heroic sacrifices don't affect the villains at all, or the deaths are used to demonstrate the villains' power levels. Instead, the four Inner Soldiers died to ensure Usagi's survival, to give her one final chance at destroying Queens Beryl and Metalia.

Same for four of the deaths in the Mass Effect trilogy. Kaidan/Ash died to detonate the nuke on Saren's base, all while evacuating Shepard and the team off of Virmire. Mordin died to cure the genophage and give the krogan back their future. Thane died to save the salarian councilor, which eventually earned me a salarian fleet. And, Legion died to free the geth from Reaper control, while I worked with Tali to order a ceasefire to the quarian fleet.

I didn't mind both sets of four deaths each because they were done right, compared to the majority of deaths in Dragon Ball Z where they were handled badly. DBZ trivialized death, not only with the dragon balls' power to resurrect people, but also in the countless ways characters die. Sailor Moon and Mass Effect, on the other hand, were heroic sacrifices to ensure someone else's survival, and they had impact compared to DBZ's deaths.

This was why Tirek absorbing the Mane Five's magic failed to work for me. They didn't sacrifice themselves to help Twilight protect the alicorn magic. They were captured and victimized, to the point that they might as well not even exist in the show at all. Meghan McCarthy stripped them of all dignity the same way Akira Toriyama stripped every non-saiyan Z-warrior of all dignity. The Inner Senshi and the four Mass Effect squadmates all died with dignity, whereas the non-saiyan Z-warriors died without it, and the same went for the Mane Five, minus the "death" part.

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Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36781686

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>>36781682
Sorry, but I don't see it as capable of being done well. Twilicorn gets enough overfocus as is without them killing off every main character except for her.

Not to mention that death would be incredibly out of place in this show no matter who dies if it's not a big bad; even the big bads only seldomly die, they're usually just knocked out of the sky. I like my Chinese cartoons as much as the next guy, but no need to turn this into NarutobleachDBZ.

Off topic, but I think the saddest part of DBZ trivializing death is that it wasn't trivial in Dragonball. Collecting the Dragon Balls was a pain in the ass, and they were deliberately designed with limits; you can't make the same wish twice, which meant that someone could only be revived once. It was still a big deal when Chiaotzu died just because he couldn't come back now, not to mention Piccolo/Kami dying.

Then they went to Namek and found a Dragon Ball set that didn't have those restrictions at all.

36781687

>>36781686
What about the Sailor Moon and Mass Effect examples? You know? The Inner Senshi deaths at the end of the first story-arc? And, Kaidan/Ashley, Mordin, Thane, and Legion? Did you think they were done better than DBZ's deaths?

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36781688

>>36781687
Never watched Sailor Moon (I refuse to watch any magical girl show after the bullshit that was Madoka) and never played Mass Effect, so I can't comment on either.

Anonymous 36781689

>>36781688
Also, you calling Breezies terrible is exactly why I can't seem to tolerate other people's ridiculously mixed viewpoints about the five key episodes, especially those IMDB scores for each of the key episodes that weren't Pinkie Pride. Again, they're disregarding the Mane Five's efforts to earn their keys, just to emphasize Super Saiyan Twilight at their expenses, as if they want Twilight's friends to be murdered and victimized in-exchange for her over-empowerment.

Also, I'm very sorry that you never played Mass Effect or watched Sailor Moon. I just hope someone who did either of those things could look at these deaths and understand why those deaths were done better than in DBZ, with or without the ability to resurrect someone.

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Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36781690

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>>36781689
>efforts

Completely failed efforts on Fluttershy's part. It's like Ash getting an early Gym badge, he doesn't actually earn it, it's given to him out of pity. I feel S4E26 is awful on its own, since I never at any point expected anything good from the key plot thread. S4E20 and S4E12 were really the only key episodes I enjoyed.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781694

>>36781688
Isn't Madoka a deconstruction of the Magical Girl genre, rather than a straight example?

Then again, I don't watch Madoka, not only I have zero interest in Magical Girl shows, but because from what I've heard, the entire show is contrived so that everything will end in pain and misery no matter what the protagonists do. And I hate that.

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36781702

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>>36781694
Yeah, but it leaves such a sour taste in my mouth that I don't want to see anything from the genre straight or subverted.

And yes, it pretty much is like that, especially for my favorite character.

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>>36781688

I thought you liked Puella Magi, oh well.

>>36781694

Puella Magi is a great anime, it's kinda like EVA in it's own miserable way, ends up making you love the straight examples a lot more when you are done with it.

>>36781702

You reap what you sow."

Everything they suffer happens simply because they brought it upon themselves.

Admiral Yang Wenli 36781706

>>36781704
Except final!Sayaka. Who just sort of became dead and we're not sure why.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781716

>>36781704
>it's kinda like EVA-
HEARD ENOUGH.

>ends up making you love the straight examples a lot more when you are done with it.
Fuck that, I'm sticking with Archie Comics Megaman, that series manages to make you appreciate the franchise itself more by deconstructing it. And then reconstructing it in awesome ways.

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>>36781706

We won't be sure until the next movie, OVA or season they decide to animate.

>>36781716

Hahaha, I love hero power fantasies just as much as anyone else, but I can't see the harm in deconstructions.

Even if I dislike them, I can't deny that their existence is justified, much like the parodies and spoofs I love so much.

Well, I didn't expect you to be open minded about anything really, you will continue to believe in that a narrow view let's you see things more clearly when all it does is make you miss on lot of good things.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781725

>>36781723
I am open-minded about a lot of things, I'm just not interested in seeing a bunch of teenage girls who were conned into fighting monsters until they're inevitably killed in horrible ways with no hope of escape or survival.

>I love hero power fantasies
A story were the hero has any hope of success is not a power fantasy, it's a regular story.

And thing is, I don't dislike desconstructions. Slapping a "desconstruction" label to your story does not change in how I perceive it. I like Spec Ops the Line because the story stands on it's own regardless of the fact that it deconstructs MMSs. I already don't care about Magical Girl shows, I don't like seeing one-sided hopeless fights, and if your comparison with EVA is in any way accurate, I fucking hate pretentious bullshit pretending to be way smarter than it actually is.

Seriously, EVA? That's what you compare it to? Why didn't you say that watching it may give me dick cancer? That would have been a less repulsive pitch.

Admiral Yang Wenli 36781726

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>>36781694
>>36781716
>>36781725
You seem to be under the assumption that Madoka doesn't have a happy ending.

And EVA's a bad comparison. Almost as bad as the time I called LoGH Game of Thrones in space to sell it to Sai. 441, watch LoGH

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36781727

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>>36781726
It kinda doesn't.

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36781728

>>36781727
Or at the least, it's about as happy as everyone turning into orange smooze.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781729

>>36781726
I dunno, all that I heard about it is that a furry pokemon cons teenage girls into being his minions and then forcing them to fight evil witches until they can no longer fight. And the witches can never be truly stopped, only halted, meaning that all the protagonists are essentially doomed to die for naught, and they can't do a damn thing about it.

Maybe once I'm done with Avatar.

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Admiral Yang Wenli 36781730

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>>36781727
Please. Only one character gets shafted. Everyone else gets a fairly happy ending.

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36781731

>>36781730
Madoka is removed from existence, Kyoko and all the magical girls are doomed to die anyway, and Homura failed in her mission entirely and is also doomed to die, while Kyubey is still 100% able to continue his conquest, just with slightly less messy endings.

Admiral Yang Wenli 36781732

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>>36781729
Well that's the setup, sure. But it's not like that situation can't change with enough ruleslawyering.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781733

>>36781732
It's also a deconstruction. I've never saw a straight-up deconstruction that didn't end with everybody dead or wishing they were dead.

36781734

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>>36781727
>>36781728

Madoka ending was great!
I wouldn't have liked it as much if it weren't for the ending, the characters suffered the fate they earned through their choices and subsequent actions.

>>36781725

They signed up for that under their own free will.

No, it's not a regular story if the good and evil theme is so prevalent like in stuff such as FiM, where we a clear point of view and side to follow.

Once again bring out Spec Ops...
How many times are you going to lean on that game when we are talking about something you watch, not something you play, this is a story you watch unfold without them guilt tripping you because you didn't choose the characters actions, it's different.

You are just one really hateful bastard, if we go by genres these are two of the biggest anime names that have a cliche filled genre and they are the well known desconstruction, but if it means so much to you then I can just call it a deconstruction, because you know... just because EVA is one, it doesn't mean that they will all be like EVA.

Generalization seems to be one of your weakest points and you firmly cling to it like it was some sort of strength, don't do that, relax and listen to what others have to say before you go back to your shenanigans.
For once, you might learn a new trick.

>>36781730

Just for clarity, you'd say the character shafted was Madoka herself?

>>36781729

Once again.
It's all about earning your happy ending.

Admiral Yang Wenli 36781735

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>>36781731
Madoka becomes a god Kyoko and all the magical girls live lives of HIGH ADVENTURE instead of CRUSHING DISPAIR and Homura wins completely, while Kyubey does nothing wrong.

>>36781733
How many deconstructions have you watched? Digimon tamers, EVA, the Incredibles, what?

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781736

>>36781734
Alright, before I didn't care for Madoka Magic because it's a deconstruction of a genre I have no emotional investment in it whatsoever. Now, I hate it because the one fan I know of it treats me like a stupid child in a condescending, snooty fashion.

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36781737

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>>36781735
>does nothing wrong

Admiral Yang Wenli 36781738

>>36781737
What, in the new universe? It's debatable, but he doesn't lie or anything. He's upfront with the costs and rewards, at the least, unlike in the old universe where he pretty nefariously tricked them into becoming liches doomed to turn into monsters.

36781739

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>>36781736

Now, don't feel so special about it, I treat everyone the same way when I'm actually trying to have an intelectual discussion, I'm just sharp tongued.

But if that's the stance you wish to take, then by all means you can do so, just don't come around expecting to be treated with respect when you none to others! You are just proving my point right now about how unreasonable you are to simply hate something you haven't seen because someone who got you good does like it, that's... pretty childish man.

>>36781735
>>36781737

> And as of "Rebellion".

>>36781738

Kyubey is above such simple minded ways and points of view, good and evil, to judge actions that we humans often use.

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36781740

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>>36781738
I see absolutely zero proof of any of that, don't you attempt to use headcanon on me. He acted exactly the same from what we saw of him.

Admiral Yang Wenli 36781741

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>>36781739
NO! I'm not bringing Rebellion into this!

>>36781740
It's not strictly true, but it's useful hyperbole to provide a counterpoint to your account of the events.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781743

>>36781739
>I treat everyone the same way when I'm actually trying to have an intelectual discussion, I'm just sharp tongued.
>just don't come around expecting to be treated with respect when you none to others!
Fucking... what?

Ok, so Mr. Sharp Tongue, who passes treating people like children in discussions as a harmless quirk, is proselytizing to me about mutual respect.

Y'now, when I behave like an asshole, I don't pretend that I'm not. I openly encourage people to report me in that case, and in fact, reported myself two weeks ago.

36781744

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>>36781741

Okay, too soon, sorry~

>>36781740

I don't think Kyubey understands moral points of view like good and evil.

>>36781743

Alright then Mister Badass that reported himself, tell me why it's so much more rude to treat you like how you behave than say, the "hilarious" over the top insults and menacing posts you often come up with?

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36781745

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>>36781743
>reported myself

That sounds counterproductive to insulting someone.

Toothless 36781746

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>>36781744
>I don't think Kyubey understands moral points of view like good and evil.
Good and evil are counter-productive to efficiency

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781747

>>36781744
Because I'm never serious with my insults. I don't behave like I'm above other people because of my opinions. When I call other people assholes or shitfuckers or whatever, I'm not fucking serious.

Except against you, because you're always antagonizing me for the slightest transgressions, you treat me like a pile of fucking shit and then act like I'm a savage troglodyte when I get pissed at you.

Why don't you just leave me the fuck alone? I hesitate to use the word hate, but you really, really, really piss me right the fuck off. I don't want anything to do with you already, and you obviously don't want anything to do with me either because you obviously regard me with the same consideration that you do with a pile of dog shit, so why do you still bother annoying me? Because you get off on treating people like crap?

Y'now, you claim that you have changed from your Season 2 days where you antagonized people to get a reaction from them, but for the love of me, I can't see any changes whatsoever, you still fucking love getting reactions out of people, you just hide that desire better.

>>36781745
Let's just say that I have a sneaking suspicion that by my 50's, I'll have to be in somebody's closed dressed head to feet in a leather bodysuit in order to get off.

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36781749

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>>36781747
I don't understand the correlation between the two.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781750

>>36781749
Neither do I, just roll with it.

36781752

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>>36781746

Exactly!

>>36781747

If you are not serious, then you should simply stop doing that before someone missunderstands you.

I wouldn't bother you if you had zero transgressions.

Because I believe you can do better.

I have changed from my S2 days, I feel absolutely nothing when doing this, because I don't get any joy or reward from it... Heck, I'm not even a Mod, I just don't like what you are doing and something in me just makes me and have to stand up and tell you to stop, because it kinda bothers me.

But I can live with your shenanigans, you are free to hate me if you so desire but if matters that much to you, I'll just leave you alone.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781753

>>36781752
Then fucking filter me, you're literally the only person I have ever seen that had a problem with my attitude here outside of one of my worst moments where even I know that I'm being an asshole.

Outside of the creeping suspicion that everybody in this board actually secretly hates me, of course, which is not a possibility I have entirely discarded.

Toothless 36781754

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>>36781753
To be fair, the filters are a bit glitchy. So I don't think they'll help

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36781755

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>>36781753
bby u no i wuv u <3

36781757

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>>36781753

Filtering people is simply above my standards, I will just try not to bother with you anymore, if that's what you really want.

36781758

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I just got back from work.

What the hay happened?

Anonymous 36781838

>>36781758
Apparently, everyone up and decided to talk about Puella Magi Madoka Magica. Me? I still just want to rant about other people's confusing, baffling opinions about the five key episodes and the S4 finale, mostly this idea that bronies want Twilight's friends to be murdered so that she could become the only solution to everything from this point on, like the non-saiyans and saiyans in DBZ, respectively.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781840

>>36781838
Then rant. Only that you'll rant alone, because everybody already heard you, and isn't interested in hearing you yet another time.

In fact, why don't you just write an email to yourself? You're in no way interested in discussion, you just want to shout at the wall.

36781845

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>>36781840

Anonymous 36781858

>>36781280
Also, those imbd.com review scores I gave away. For those who missed it:

Rarity Takes Manehatten: 7.7

Rainbow Falls: 6.7

Pinkie Pride: 8.9

It Ain't Easy Being Breezies: 6.9

Leap of Faith: 7.1

Twilight's Kingdom: 9.0

Should I listen to those review scores, either? For me, though, I'd rather not.

Also, for those who think a person named "anonymous" wrote it, it's actually me, EternalNothingness. I can't seem to edit the name to make it look like I wrote it.

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>The behavior of other people made me stop liking something.
I've been there, some rabid Rainbow Dash fans made me have a more negative outlook on the character.

However, I take responsibility for my letting other people get to me. Otherwise, I'm just little Timmy whining to mom about how Suzy made me hit her.

36781862

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>>36781859

>I've been there, some rabid Rainbow Dash fans made me have a more negative outlook on the character.

Back in the day, that's how I felt, now I no longer care much about the character.
Still better than Applejack.

36781863

>>36781859
So technically, not let those imdb.com review scores I've recently posted get the better of me, and just follow my own opinion.

Again:

Rarity's: 7.7

Rainbow Dash's: 6.7

Pinkie Pie's: 8.9

Fluttershy's: 6.9

Applejack's 7.1

Twilight Sparkle's: 9.0

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Geldon 36781865

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>>36781863
Metacritic-style user-generated numbers are worthless.

The trouble is that a lot of people vote 10 or 0 just to try to manipulate the numbers on the most kneejerk shit imaginable. "I HATE ALICORNS, ONE." "I WANT TO SUPPORT DHX, TEN." "I WANT TO PARASPRITE BRONIES, ONE." "PINKIE PIE IS MY PHANTASMAL SIGNIFICANT OTHER AND THIS IS ONE OF HER EPISODES, TEN." And so on.

It happens so often that the few people who try to give genuinely-good appraisals (insofar as their wholly unqualified ability allows), are in the minority.

Ergo, the number you looking at there is the average of disproportionate garbage and honest (and wholly unprofessionally weighted) opinion in a proportion randomized by whoever managed to crawl onto IMBD.COM. What a crock.

Yet, even if those numbers were fantastically accurate representations delivered upon you by Lord Spaghetti Monster's omniscient perfection, what are they to you? You'll have your opinion, He'll have his, and if there was anything wrong with you having a differing opinion, you wouldn't be able to have an opinion in the first place.

Last edited at Tue, Oct 21st, 2014 10:49

36781873

>>36781865
So technically, the scores were all unreliable, and that I shouldn't listen to them and, again, follow my own opinion.

In fact, you mentioned Metacritic. How is it unreliable?

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>>36781873
>follow my own opinion.

YES

Geldon 36781889

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>>36781873
Technically, I mentioned "Metacritic-style user-generated numbers," and in the same post I described how they are unreliable. This is because metacritic has two scores you can find on the average review page: reviewer reviews, and players reviews. The player reviews are functionally identical to what you're looking at there at indiedb, and I was describing how they were unreliable.

Professional reviewer reviews are significantly better because the reviewers are paid to be objective and try to level a good score that is consistent with the industry as a whole. Unlike user reviews, you're not going to find any reviewer trying to score a game as 1/10 for personal reasons. However, even professional reviewers aren't perfect: some are corrupt, others are generally incompetent.

Yet, even if we lived in a world where all professional reviewers were gloriously without err in their judgement, subjective opinion still applies, and their scores would still differ from each other. It could very well be that there's a game/show/movie that you love and all the reviewers hate. For you to allow their dislike to sour your like implies that you're not supposed to enjoy what you do. There's no good reason for that.

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Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36781925

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>>36781838
Dude, just accept that some people don't have the same tastes as you. If the 51% had the magical ability to make the 49% that disagreed bend to their whims and suddenly agree, the world would be horrible and churn out nothing but MMC-tier garbage. You're part of that 49%, so your job is to be loud, give yourself sway so that you aren't swept under the rug by the 51%. You can't change everyone's mind, but don't despair over it. Just get angry. Then use that anger as power. Let the dark side flow through you.

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>>36781925
Hush you, back under the carpet.

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36781934

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>>36781933
You're not my real Dad.

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>>36781934
Your real dad brushed you under the carpet?

That's disturbing.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781945

>>36781925
That's a good recipe to be fucking miserable about things that you love.

I realized that when I stopped to think that I was taking my obsession with Celestia too far and was making myself feel shitty for reasons that were completely out of my hand, making myself a nuisance for nothing.

Geldon 36781960

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>>36781945

36781961

>>36781945
Not to mention, that absurd theory I came up with.

Because you bronies liked the Twilight/Tirek fight, but had mixed feelings about the five key episodes, and disliked the Rainbow Power and Rainbow Castle, I had to come up with all of those absurd generalizations about what the bronies liked. I assumed that they wanted Twilight's friends to be murdered, so that she could become the ultimate and only solution to everything. After all, DBZ did the same thing on a regular basis, not just with the lasers and explosions, but also the deliberate abandoning of every non-saiyan supporting character, and the constant over-focus on the saiyans themselves, like Vegeta, Gohan, Goten, and Trunks.

In fact, I have to wonder if bronies even cared about the friendship aspects to the Rainbow Power and Rainbow Castle at all. They're calling them "toyetic" just because they were designed to sell toys and play-sets, and they disliked the designs. The Rainbow Power was technically a revamped version of the Elements of Harmony, and as a result was a Deus Ex Machina like said Elements. And, people were so accustomed to Twilight's library as her home, that replacing it with a castle would seem absurd to them, even if it has thrones for all of Twilight's friends as well as Twilight and Spike.

So I have to wonder, do bronies care about friendship anymore? If so, then why the fight scene, which deliberately abandoned everything that made the show good in the first place, but not the five key episodes, the Rainbow Power, and Rainbow Castle, all of which represented friendship in ways the fight couldn't?

And don't say "bad execution" with regard to the key episodes. By saying that, you're implying that Meghan McCarthy had also abandoned MLP's core friendship themes, just to turn the series into Dragon Ball Z from this point on, again with the deliberate abandoning of the hero's friends for the hero herself, not just the lasers and explosions.

Last edited at Wed, Oct 22nd, 2014 09:12

Anonymous 36781963

>>36781961
To say bad execution implies Meghan doesn't care about the show's themes would imply itself that bad execution would only come about simply because of a lack of caring. There have been badly executed episodes before, like FPK and its message, and from Faust's reaction it was due to issues they weren't aware of in an episode they thought was really good, not simply because of a lack of caring. There were poorly executed key episodes, just as there were well executed key episodes, not just all were good or all were bad sort of mentality you seem to think the rest of the fandom had, and there were also bad and good episodes in season 4 about friendship that weren't key episodes, just like in the last 3 seasons.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781964

>>36781961
Oh, put a sock in it, I already heard that nonsense nine times already.

And it doesn't matter what I say, you're just going to brush off whatever counter-argument I present to continue your parade of self-pity fueled by an out-of-control victim complex.

Last edited at Wed, Oct 22nd, 2014 09:41

36781967

>>36781963
Well, I thought Twilight's Kingdom was the worst-executed episode, because of the deliberate depowering and disposing of Twilight's friends, exchanged for her Super Saiyan bad-assery. Say what you will about some of the other five key episodes, they at least gave the Mane Five storyline significance and character-development, before throwing them and their dignity into the grinder for the sake of Twilight's Super Saiyan powers.

And bronies don't seem to care. They liked the fight scene, but hated the Rainbow Power and Rainbow Castle, and had mixed feelings about the key episodes. Therefore, they want MLP to abandon its friendship roots by murdering Twilight's friends in-exchange for her Super Saiyan empowerment.

Also, I noticed that you never seem to mention anything about the way I compared DBZ's casual disregard for its non-saiyan supporting cast, to the MLP S4 finale's equally casual disregard for Twilight's friends and their key episodes. Why is that?

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Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36781968

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>>36781961
Judging by your wording, I think you're missing the part that, and this is kind of important, not everyone likes S4E26. I certainly don't, I assume you don't, plenty of others don't. Mixed feelings exist on everything.

Also, what's your definition of "bronies" and how are you outside that definition?

Anonymous 36781969

>>36781967
Oh god are you serious? No one cares about your stupid DBZ comparison. Don't you realize people are getting sick of it? That you keep parroting the same things makes you less of a person in a discussion, and more like some sort of bot or parasprite.

36781970

>>36781968
Then why did it win an episode popularity poll by a landslide on Equestria Daily? And what explained key episodes like Leap of Faith and Rainbow Falls receiving the least amount of votes compared to nearly every other episode in all of S4, not just the key episodes?

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781971

>>36781970
1. Because Equestria Daily likes fucking everything, and they don't wait until their opinion settles in and they can accurately tell which episode is the best. They liked Twilight Kingdom, it's still fresh in their memory, ergo, they vote it the best episode.

2. Because those episodes SUCKED. Key or no key, they were predictable and unoriginal.

Last edited at Wed, Oct 22nd, 2014 10:03

Anonymous 36781972

>>36781971
>1
It's been months. Not really fresh anymore.

36781973

>>36781971
>>Because those episodes SUCKED. Key or no key, they were predictable and unoriginal.

Therefore, Rainbow Dash and Applejack, and probably Pinkie Pie, Fluttershy, and Rarity, must be murdered to turn Twilight into a Super Saiyan bad-ass.

Last edited at Wed, Oct 22nd, 2014 10:06

Anonymous 36781974

>>36781973
Great logic. Two characters had poor episodes, therefore everyone but Twilight must die, even Pinke even though Pinkie Pride got second on that same episode poll.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781975

>>36781972
I assume that the voting took place shortly after the Season 4 finale. If it didn't... Well, I don't know what to tell you, but Equestria Daily is hardly a trustworthy source.

>>36781973
See, this is why I don't want to argue with you, your logic is fucking insane. From "Applejack and Rainbow Dash had bad episodes" you take "The Mane Six must be murdered to push Twilight up".

36781976

>>36781974
Twilight's Kingdom was worse. Rainbow Falls and Leap of Faith gave Rainbow Dash and Applejack, respectively, character-development. All Twilight's Kingdom did was dispose of them, Pinkie, Rarity, and Fluttershy, and strip them of all character-development and dignity, just to turn Twilight into a Super Saiyan bad-ass. Once again, DBZ's casual disregard for every non-saiyan supporting character, exchanged for the over-empowerment of the saiyans.

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36781977

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>>36781970
Because Equestria Daily is Hasdrone city and I recommend you don't touch that site with a 40-foot-pole.

You must be new here if you didn't know that.

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36781978

>>36781971
>implying implications

Dude, Leap of Faith was one of the only good parts of Season 4.

>>36781973
Uwotm8

I've been told I bend logic over and fuck it in the ass from time to time, but I can't even begin to understand the leap between those two points.

Anonymous 36781979

>>36781977
So TK winning a popularity poll means the site is mostly Hasdrones? Having TK as your favorite is a sign you're a Hasdrone?

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781980

>>36781976
You're pushing your opinion as something universal. YOU think Twilight's Kingdom was worse, therefore, it must be worse on an objective basis. Nevermind Discord's character arc, Celestia singing (in one of her only appearances in the Season), the dread through the whole episode as things get increasingly more hopeless, a tangible loss with Twilight's library blown to hell, the conclusion of the Key arc, Rainbow Power (despise the hideous designs), and the Mane Six pretty much becoming Super Heroes.

>>36781978
>Dude, Leap of Faith was one of the only good parts of Season 4.
Onions, I thought it was the second worst episode of Season 4, losing only to Bats. Because Bats actually infuriated me.

And no, I am not a "Hasdrone" who hates everything that isn't Twilight, my favorite episode in the entire show is 1,2,3 Testing Testing.

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36781981

>>36781979
No, no, EqD was full of Hasdrone long before S4E26 was even announced, silly.

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36781982

>>36781980
>my favorite episode in the entire series is 1,2,3 Testing Testing

I know you aren't a Hasdrone, 441, but "Twilicorn teaches Rainbow Dash how to fly" is not in any way a good example of liking something that isn't Twilicorn.

36781983

>>36781980
First of all, the "hopeless" part refers to the way the Mane Five were disposed of and stripped of all dignity, just to turn Twilight into a Super Saiyan bad-ass. It's all anyone will care for from this point on, to the point that friendship (and the Rainbow Power and Rainbow Castle that represent it) stopped meaning anything and that the show should become DBZ from this point on.

Also, Leap of Faith was a vastly superior key episode, alongside the other four. They gave the Mane Five character-development, without reducing them to victims who might as well be murdered like in the S4 finale.

Anonymous 36781984

>>36781981
Then how is EqD being full of Hasdrones explain why TK won? It's not a matter of if it's liked, since I imagine a Hasdrone would like any episode, but if it's liked the most out of others, and it seems the majority liked TK the most out of all the other episodes.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781985

>>36781982
>Twilicorn teaches Rainbow Dash how to fly
...The fuck did you watch? 123TT wasn't about Twilight teaching Rainbow Dash how to fly, it was about Rainbow Dash's struggle to learn about Wonderbolt history to pass a test. She approached Twilight first, but that was because she's the smartest one of the group, and thus, would know something about teaching.

This is why I don't like talking about ponies with you anymore, you let your hatred of Twilicorn consume you and your every perception of the show. Whenever Twilight enters the picture, you only focus on what she does and ignore everything else. You've let your hatred consume you. And don't even bother arguing that it's not hatred, because when you're this obsessive over every single damn thing Twilight does or doesn't do, I refuse to believe that it's not hatred.

>>36781983
God fucking damn it, I forgot who I am arguing with for a second.

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36781986

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>>36781985
I didn't watch that episode since S4E04 and S4E10 already had Twilicorn solving the plot by telling Rainbow what's needed to save the day, and I didn't want to go through that a third time this season, especially after hearing the "Maybe I could try out to be a Wonderbolt" line.

>You've let your hatred consume you

[Star Wars Darth Vader quote]

Geldon 36781987

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>>36781983
>First of all, the "hopeless" part refers to the way the Mane Five were disposed of and stripped of all dignity
That's certainly... an interpretation.

Anonymous 36781988

>>36781986
So no reason why people voting in the poll being Hasdrones is the reason to why TK won the episode popularity poll?

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36781990

>>36781988
Well, Hasbro is pushing Twilicorn to the moon, so it makes sense for them to want her to win the popularity poll.

Anonymous 36781991

>>36781990
Then why didn't PTS win the round that covered the first half of season 4 instead of Pinkie Pride?

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36781992

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>>36781991
Hmm, good point, I don't have an answer to that. Maybe Pinkie Pride was just that good, but I'm not sure.

The Scyphozoa!SCIPIOB65. 36781995

>>36781992
I think it's because PTS didn't really fulfill the "parts 2 and 3 of MMC" it was supposed to be, it was really more about the tree n shit. TK extended MMC a lot more.

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Anonymous 36781996

>>36781995
Or was PTS the part 2 and TK was the part 3?

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36781998

>>36781996
Nah, EqG was Part 2, PTS was Part 3, TK was part 4, EqG2 was Part 5, and the Season 5 premiere will be Part 6. Because being unsure of herself as a princess is now Twlight's sole personality trait. She's more boring than Cadence.

Anonymous 36782004

>>36781998

I didn't get that feel from the preview. She seemed unsure of what the castle's purpose was, which was the same as the rest of the cast.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36782005

>>36782004
I'll bet you five bucks that they'll work that in somehow. Because that's Twilight post Season 2.

Anonymous 36782007

>>36782005

If you say so. The preview looked more like a group adventure with no one being the focus this time around, and nothing really was brought up about any insecurities which seem to be resolved at the end of TK P2. I wouldn't be surprised if an episode comes up where Twilight is unsure of how to act in something princess related, but I don't think it's going to be all the time, nor do I think it'll be brought up in any real capacity in the S5 opener.

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>>36781961
>Because you bronies

And we are right back where we started with this guy blaming others for his own problems.

Second verse, same as the first:

BUILD A BRIDGE AND GET OVER IT

>>36781979
I wish I was a Hasdrone. Then I could fly to work.

Woooosh!

>>36782007
I would expect and be ok with that. As someone who is employed, I know what it's like to be given a task, be unsure at first then slowly grow to better understand it then be thrown another task where it all starts over again. It really doesn't matter how long or how many times you went through it, when you have the personality trait that triggers it, it's triggered.

Anonymous 36782019

You never recognize the good times until they're gone. RIP the past few months generally free of hysterics and terms like "Hasdrone" being tossed around.

Geldon 36782023

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>>36782019
In any fandom, the hatedom [tvtropes.org] is always lurking somewhere.

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36782025

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>>36782023
>hatedom

I don't think you're using that word correctly, considering I am, and I assume EN is, a fan of the show, while a hatedom hates a work.

Marimo!Mrb.TaRPks 36782026

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>>36782023
>>36782025
For EN, I think fan hater might be a better fit. Or whatever you would call someone who says he thinks the fanbase wants the show to abandon its positive themes, kill off most of the characters, be all about fighting, and promote racist messages.

Anonymous 36782027

>>36782026
Yeah, pretty much.

All OP has done is create thread after thread and spew the same few arguments:

>"If you liked TK, that means you want to kill the main5 to make Twilight more powerful!!!!!!!!!"
>"McCarthy is ignoring friendship and just wants to turn the show into DBZ!!!"
>"Twilight being an alicorn and the others not is RACISM!!!!!!!!!"

etc.

He made three threads about this same subject a while ago and they all got deleted due to either drama or /keepittoonethread/. Not sure why this one still stands.

Geldon 36782028

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>>36782025
>>36782026
When one simply hates the fandom, certainly. But when one feels repelled from the show because some members of the fandom like parts of the show you don't, I would put that at least partially under the umbrella of hatedom on the grounds that apparently you hate certain aspects of the show so badly that you're outraged others could like it. Read those reasons cited by OP time and time again, and they fall into this category.

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Marimo!Mrb.TaRPks 36782029

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>>36782027
Probably because there's only one on /pony/, and he hasn't started telling the people he's been talking to here that they loved racist messages and wanted them promoted in the show like the end of his last thread.

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36782032

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>>36782027
I think it'd be more powerful to just call Twilicorn being the only alicorn "bullshit," rather than racist. Iunno, maybe I'm just a simple kind of guy, but "bullshit" tends to work for a wide variety of things in my eyes.

Louie 36782034

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You could just kill the Bronies

36782043

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>>36782034

36782047

>>36782027
That's because Dragon Ball Z did it on a regular basis as well. It never promoted friendship and teamwork like most other children's shows at the time, so much as it did racial inequality and racial supremacy, as implied by the saiyans constantly having roles to play, as compared to their non-saiyan Z-warrior friends who are reduced to extras. For example, Krillin -- a powerful martial artist in his own right -- was brutally murdered by Frieza as an excuse for Akira Toriyama to turn Goku into a Super Saiyan. In other words, he stuffed someone in the refrigerator and stripped him of all dignity, just to get someone else to power up. Likewise for the Majin Buu arc, where only five characters -- all of them saiyans -- had any storyline significance, while every other non-saiyan supporting character are disposed of on the account of their species and power levels.

That's the same downfall as Twilight's Kingdom. Like the bronies, the finale disregarded the Mane Five's key episodes, disposed of them, and made Twilight the only solution to everything on the account of possessing three other alicorns' magic. Never mind the fact that the Mane Five went through their own key episodes, or that Twilight gave up her magic to save her friends, or that they received Rainbow Power and the new Rainbow Castle. It's always going to be a bad-ass Super Saiyan Twilight even if it's at the expense of her friends.

Last edited at Thu, Oct 23rd, 2014 05:46

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36782048

>>36782047
SAY. SOMETHING. NEW.

EquestriaGuy!1DerpyVA.6 36782053

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PN47j2nChQ
>>36782048

36782055

>>36782048
How can I? It's been five months since that finale appeared. I was banned from five entire message boards, four of them MLP message boards. I was also banned from commenting on Equestria Daily, and I was blocked by Tommy Oliver/Brony Curious on Tumblr. And the reason for all of those things was because I was ranting about both the finale and the bronies' reactions to that finale.

I love My Little Pony, and it breaks my heart to see it turn into DBZ by disposing of Twilight's friends and disregarding their key episodes, in-exchange for a Super Saiyan Twilight Sparkle. I'm unable to let go of it because I love the show to death!

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36782057

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>>36782047
Bah, as much as I like Krillin, it's not like the Frieza arc was the first time they killed him off, he didn't even get the pleasure of dying onscreen in Dragonball. If anything it's a step up in DBZ.

Yamcha doesn't deserve the indignity he got in DBZ, though. He lost his dream of winning the martial arts tournament, he lost his girl, everything, just because of those Saiyans. Not that he and Bulma had a great track record before but Vegeta killed it right out.

Geldon 36782058

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybn8Ru6hu-k
>>36782055
Sorry, but you're inventing your own misery. One super-powered battle does not make MLP:FIM into DBZ. Nor would two. Nor would two thousand. DBZ has very unique reasons for becoming what it did that really have nothing to do with the reason MLP:FIM is what it is. Ditch the analogy, they have nothing to do with each other, to do otherwise is to cut your hands on a lie to which you are desperately clinging.

Love is good, but fixation is a problem. It's a problem because you grow so obsessed with the little details that you lose sight with the big picture. MLP:FIM is a family-friendly cartoon, more intelligently wrought than most, but it is still only that. When you try to make it into something else, you are inducting yourself into the fan dumb [tvtropes.org]. At that point, bronies are not keeping you from liking MLP: you are. If the developers made MLP:FIM exactly the way you want, you would utterly destroy it from your lack of perspective. Consider this your intervention.

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Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36782059

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>>36782058
>fandumb

...fuck it I can't say you're wrong given his inability to change topics, I'll let it slide this one time without raising a fuss.

36782060

>>36782058
Thanks, but I don't think I can believe that.

Again, I can't like the five key episodes without a whole bunch of people either disliking them or saying, "they were badly executed". To me, they're better than the actual finale itself, because they gave Twilight's friends character-development before casually throwing it all under the bus for Twilight's power levels. And, I have bunch of people saying that they're "badly executed", that the finale was vastly superior because of that fight scene despite its casual disregard for Twilight's friends.

It's like people want MLP to just be Twilight Sparkle and only Twilight Sparkle from this point on, even if it means murdering her friends and brushing their corpses behind the curtain, never to be heard from again.

Last edited at Thu, Oct 23rd, 2014 11:35

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36782061

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>>36782060
>It's like people want MLP to just be Twilight Sparkle and only Twilight Sparkle from this point on

They don't.
/thread

Geldon 36782063

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>>36782060
>It's like people want MLP to just be Twilight Sparkle and only Twilight Sparkle from this point on, even if it means murdering her friends and brushing their corpses behind the curtain, never to be heard from again.
Depends on what you mean by "people."

Do some fans, somewhere, want this in the giant MLP:FIM fanbase? Certainly. But then, some fans want to fuck actual horses. Whatever you subjectively come across on the Internet doesn't necessarily reflect the desires of the fandom as a whole, it's even worse than a metacritic user review metric.

Do the developers want to kill off the rest of Twilight Sparkle's friends and shove them behind the curtain. This is the common worry unique to the MLP:FIM fan dumb. If you untangle yourself from that fear for five seconds, I think that it should be reasonably clear that the developers put waaay too much effort into developing and supporting the other members of the mane six to just get rid of them. They are every bit as vital to the story as Twilight Sparkle. They are main characters in their own right, and even if they were only support characters for Twilight Sparkle, that's still rather an important role, they're not going to up and vanish. How could you even have a "princess of friendship" without her besties?

Last edited at Thu, Oct 23rd, 2014 11:59

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36782064

>>36782063
You know, I'm pretty sure you relegating the rest of the mane six to "besties of Twilicorn" doesn't assuage his fears in the slightest.

36782065

>>36782060
ok, noted. moving on?

36782069

>>36782064
It's okay. Twilight's friends did go through their own key episodes, after all... despite the fact that too many people are constantly calling them out for their "execution" compared to their extreme love for Twilight's Kingdom and its bloated fight scene.

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Geldon 36782070

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>>36782064
Maybe, but I figure if he's going to find any lasting contentment in watching any show, it really ought to be good enough. Because look at the premises we've got here:
* Mane character seems to get central spotlight in season intros and finales.
* But I like the other characters!
* What if the mane character is going to replace the other characters completely?!!
It's a stupid line of thought. Did Kirk replace Spock? Did Luke Skywalker replace Han Solo? Did Xena replace Gabriell? NO! These were important support characters, and main characters in their own right. That is the mane six of MLP:FIM.

About the only good example we've got is Goku in DBZ, but what do you expect for a manga that's based on getting ridiculously powerful? DBZ is the exception, it defines a genre where raising above your peers is a thing, but that's not the norm.

>But I don't waaaant Twilight Sparkle to be the main of the mane six, I want [insert favorite mane six] to be the main of the mane six.
Open your goddamn eyes. It's been going on since the pilot in season 1. Twilight Sparkle was hand-designed by Faust herself to the main of the mane six. The good news for you is that this doesn't necessarily diminish her friends, it just means that they're the Gabrielle to her Xena. A lot of people enjoyed Gabrielle better, and that's just fine.

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Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36782071

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>>36782070
Oh boy, here we go, some "Twilicorn is the main character," I'm surprised this took so long.

I don't even have the drive to argue about it, what a sad thing. I'm sure the implied "I disagree" will be enough since we both know neither of our opinions are going to change from the potential argument.

36782072

>>36782070
Which was why we have the five key episodes, and I can't like them without a whole bunch of people going on about their "lackluster execution".

Anonymous 36782073

>>36782072
You mean in places where discussion is had, there are people who have criticisms for an episode you personally enjoyed? You could avoid that by just not going to those sorts of places if other people's opinions affect you that much.

Or if you're enjoying episodes in your own home and people are barging in telling you to cut that out, just call the cops.

Geldon 36782074

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>>36782071
Now you're catching on to my style of Internet argument: the recognition of futility in changing anyone's mind anywhere.

But I don't really like the idea of fortifying my argumentative position, as those walls tend to trap one inside. Being a stubborn mule accomplishes dick. I want to base my assertions on something reasonable. What external information am I operating upon here?

* A certain character was the main character/conflict resolver for virtually every episode of season 1.
* A certain character was the main character/conflict resolver for every season intro and finale.
* A certain character was the main character/conflict resolver in both Equestria Girls mov- actually, in Rainbow Rocks, I'd say Sunset Shimmer did the heavy lifting, but everybody treated Twlight Sparkle like that was her job.

To look at that and hold the argument, "Nooo, Twilight Sparkle is not really the main character/conflict resolver, and something must be wrong with the series if she ever remotely looks like she might be" shows a far greater level of stubbornness than my own.

But the thing is, you don't have to be afraid that means your favorite mane six character is going to be pushed out of the limelight. Each one has important roles to the story, and we've plenty of evidence to establish that being a bestie to the main character in this series elevates a character so much that they get episodes of their own where Twilight Sparkle isn't even around anymore! This is not DBZ balance, this is Star Trek/Star Wars/Xena balance. How is this a problem of yours anymore?

Last edited at Thu, Oct 23rd, 2014 12:39

36782075

>>36782074
Again, the key episodes. It's why we had the key episodes, because they gave Twilight's five friends importance to the S4-long story-arc, as well as character-development of their very own.

Geldon 36782076

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>>36782075
If you're trying to limit this to just key episodes, you're so deep in No True Scotsman territory that it's not even funny.

The series operates as a whole, not as the key cherry picked sections you use to support your preferred brand of self-delusion. Really, noticing you did this should have been your first warning sign.

To an extent, you could say I'm doing this by pointing out the episodes in which Twilight Sparkle was given the lead means she must be the main character. But I would say this is justified because the episodes in question were quite deliberately picked by the developers as the framing episodes of the series. The first episode of the series. The first and last episode of each season. The movies. If you want some key episodes, these are obviously them.

Last edited at Thu, Oct 23rd, 2014 12:57

36782077

>>36782076
Not until you stop making a huge deal out of Twilight's Kingdom, its bloated fight scene, and Twilight's Super Saiyan bad-assery at the expense of her friends.

Nº 441 !fOINzMA0KU 36782078

>>36782074
The problem is less about Twilight being the main character and more about Twilight being the only character.

Season 4 was fine with this, but in Season 3, it seemed like Twilight was 20 times more competent than all her friends put together, only she was allowed to actually accomplish something in a plot. Look at Crystal Empire, in which the Mane Six are basically shoved to the side so that Twilight can have her arc where she learns about saving the day.

I'm fine with Twilight being the mainest character, what I'm not fine with is her friends being demoted to supporting cast. Friendship is Magic, Twilight should be nothing without her friends to back her up.

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36782079

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>>36782077
You know not everyone is doing that. Plenty of people find McCarthy's fanfiction where Twilicorn goes Super Sand and saves da day frum da bad guise to be dumb.

Geldon 36782080

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>>36782077
You cannot forward the assertions, "its bloated fight scene, and Twilight's Super Saiyan bad-assery at the expense of her friends" in the same sentence that you're saying I'm the one "making a big deal" about Twilight's Kingdom without establishing it is you who are making a big deal out of it. That is only your interpretation of what happened in that episode, it's not literally what happened, and the person who can't tell the difference is the one who is certain the sky is falling.

To engage in a bit of ad hominem, I'm beginning to understand why you've been banned from five forums already. You're not the most self-deluded fellow I've seen around here, but to make the mistake the previous paragraph without being aware of it is enough proof to me that you're there.

You can tire us all out with your incessant replies until none of us have the energy to reply to you anymore (as for me, I put myself on a time limit with leechblock for FireFox) but it won't make you right. You were never universally right about this, and you never will be. You were only subjectively right, via your lopsided interpretation of Twilight's Kingdom.

So am I. My advice to you: learn to see more the value in more than one subjective interpretation at a time. As human beings, we're dreadfully limited creatures. Many of us go our entire lives without learning to do this, and are comfortably deluded in everything we do as a result. But if you can prop up a second perspective, you will get closer to the truth that you are now. If you could prop up all the perspectives, you'd have to be God, so you should always acknowledge we're all at least a little ignorant about all things.

You cannot come here and start a thread where you claim it is problematic others hold conflicting opinions and pretend you are anywhere near having accomplished anything other than accepting one single limited perspective, that of your own. You've opened your mouth and removed all doubt.

Last edited at Thu, Oct 23rd, 2014 13:13

Crimson Risk !RISkQqf4EM 36782081

>>36782079
+1, I thought that scene was stupid as hell and could have easily been omitted. But it's not a huge deal.

The Scyphozoa!SCIPIOB65. 36782084

>>36782079
>>36782081
so are we talking about the part where she failed or

Crimson Risk !RISkQqf4EM 36782085

>>36782084
No, just that giant laser battle DBZ fight scenes don't really belong in MLP, but whatever.
I guess they always did have some sort of lasers in defeating big villains, but it felt like it actually took itself too seriously or something this time.
Like I said though, not a huge deal, just kinda stupid. I hope it doesn't become a trend, but it probably will.
But hey it's also a cartoon show for kids, I personally can't fault it for being a bit stupid sometimes.
Maybe it's actually the FANS who take it too seriously...

Last edited at Thu, Oct 23rd, 2014 14:42

36782093

>>36782055

Maybe that should tell you something about what you are doing.

>>36782077

YOU are the one making a big deal out of it!

Unlikeable Pony (element of being banned. again) 36782119

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>>36781608
>>36781609


Thank you very much! bleh, been a bit hectic on my end so haven't been able to check my e-mail till today, i'll download them tommorrow and read them :)
(fucking pissed at sister showing up out of the blue and basically saying "hey, heard you had a vacation this week, babysit my crotchspawn for me so I can visit family while I'm in town).



>>36781610


Dude, don't be a douche. Flutters is a great guy and one of my favorite people on the chan.


>>36781634


I do have to say, Fluttershy bawling felt really well done in that you could feel alot more emotion out of that scene then normal. no Comedy, no silliness, it was kind of a serious sadness moment.

like, I didn't feel that Discord telling her how sorry he was later on felt nearly as heartfelt as the delivery of andrea's lines there.


>>36781686


I think that the mane six sacrificing themselves could work well if it wasn't permanent, and was set up well.

specifically, if they had the other five staying behind or doing something to Save twilight and help her along to her goal with the party Dwindling SPECIFICALLY to show that twilight's utterly Helpless without the aid of her friends could be a good lesson.

Then at the end when she reaches the macguffin have her give a speech to the villain where she realizes that she doesn't feel triumphant or anything, but rather the only reason she reached the macguffin was because of her friends. Have her sadness or feelings for her friends end up activating the macguffn to Return her friends to live and then Defeat the villain, like how in Breath of fire 2 the Ultra secret "magic" that you can get is just realizing how important one's friends are and that no matter how strong you get you'll always need friends, which brings Ryu's friend's back to life.

>>36782057


The fact that DBZ abridged actually deconstructs this by pointing out just how BAD that would be to someone's mental state really makes me like that series more.
Goku telling him "you're my friend" to try and keep him from committing suicide in the future was actually rather touching.

36782124

>>36782078
Which was why the Mane Five had their own key episodes in Season Four. They all had character-development and roles to play in the S4-long story-arc.

It's just too bad they were victimized and depowered as an excuse to demonstrate how much of an all-powerful monster Tirek was, and to get to a bloated fight scene that only demonstrated a huge power gap between Twilight and her friends. Plus, the five key episodes kept getting mixed reactions galore, even though I found nothing wrong with them compared to Twilight's Kingdom, which again traded the disempowerment of Twilight's friends for the empowerment of Twilight herself.

Last edited at Fri, Oct 24th, 2014 07:20

Anonymous 36782129

>>36782055
>I was banned from five entire message boards, four of them MLP message boards. I was also banned from commenting on Equestria Daily, and I was blocked by Tommy Oliver/Brony Curious on Tumblr.

This is more than enough of an indication to stop replying to OP. He doesn't seem to know when to quit, and will not change his mind no matter what anyone says.

Stop feeding the parasprite, kthx.

36782141

>>36782129
That's because I had to deal withy you changing my mind and telling me to hate the key episodes but love the finale for its fight scene! You can't tell me what I can and cannot like or consider good!

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36782148

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>>36782141
>I can't change my mind because you changed my mind! Don't try to change my mind!

You know, if you're such a big fan of the key episodes, you could, you know, like them and then argue why they're good while also thinking they're good.

In fact, saying things you think are true is a very good way to make your argument strong, as opposed to saying things you believe the opposite of. Unless you're trying to score brownie points, but if that's your intention there are a lot of problems with your approach there as well.

36782153

>>36782148
Then let me defend them again, and even compare them to Twilight's Kingdom.

The five key episodes gave Twilight's friends meaningful character-development based on their Elements of Harmony. Fluttershy, for example, had to learn about being strict without losing her kindness. Meanwhile, Applejack had to help her grandmother find happiness without any intervention from Flim and Flam's placebo drink, just so that she could stay true to her element of Honesty. Rarity had to stay true to her generosity without letting it manipulate her, and Rainbow Dash had to stay loyal to friends who care for her over a team of fliers who were better than hers'. Finally, Pinkie Pie had to realize that other ponies' fun and laughter were more important than her own pride. All of those moments resulted in them teaching somepony else about their Elements, and they received keys as a result.

Hell, if anything, I might as well go so far as to compare the key episodes to the loyalty missions from Mass Effect 2, or the social links from Persona 4. Both the loyalty missions and party-member social links were party-member/squadmate-specific storylines that all eventually intersected into a climactic finale, whether it's the suicide mission in ME2, or the True Ending in Persona 4. Same for the six storylines in Sonic Adventure 1, or the five character-specific stories in Odin Sphere, or Golden Sun and the way it told its two-part story through both Isaac and Felix's opposing perspectives.

However, it was when Twilight went through her own key episode, that the Mane Five's were rendered meaningless by their disempowerment and Twilight's over-empowerment. Not even the Rainbow Power and Rainbow Castle could salvage that finale from that particular problem, because it was at the last minute and was included to justify the victimization of the Mane Five and the over-empowerment of Twilight Sparkle.

Last edited at Fri, Oct 24th, 2014 14:24

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36782154

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>>36782153
Do you believe that wholeheartedly despite the opinion you wrote not being unanimous?

If so, then there shouldn't be a problem and you can enjoy the series as much as you want, since you believe what you just wrote and value your opinion.

36782156

>>36782154
Yes.

Also, how was that not unanimous? Was it because of the five key episodes' "execution"? Or, was it the way I described the Season Four finale?

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36782157

>>36782156
What I mean is, the fandom doesn't unanimously agree with you. Nor does any fandom unanimously agree with anything.

So, to answer your question, the key episodes and the Season 4 finale are both not unanimously thought of.

36782192

>>36782157
Except for the fact that they are episodes. We managed to agree on that.

Anonymous 36782218

>>36782141
>You can't tell me what I can and cannot like or consider good!

And yet, you're telling other people that what they like is wrong and bad.

◔ᴗ◔

36782232

>>36782218
Okay, so I'm some paranoid, delusional psycho who fears becoming an outcast, and so tries to force an opinion down other people's throats out of fear of them.

And, out of that paranoia, I come up with this delusion that the bronies have given up on the show's friendship themes by murdering Twilight's friends, making Twilight overpowered, and making the rest of the entire show be Dragon Ball Z from this point on. And, it's all based on them liking the fight scene, considering the key episodes mixed, and disliking the Rainbow Power and Rainbow Castle...

Really, I just don't know what to do with myself, anymore. I mean, there are plenty of other franchises that did this whole "friendship and teamwork" spiel just as much as MLP, such as the Avengers, Power Rangers, and the huge majority of party-based RPG's. But MLP is just too awesome to let go of!

36782237

>>36782232
Then just stay off of the message boards.

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36782239

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>>36782232
>Really, I just don't know what to do with myself, anymore.

Just don't let anyone's opinions get to you. And, if you can't do that, just take a break from imageboards and forums until you're able to. And for future reference, if you know you won't like an episode or a show or any such for its subject matter, you don't have to watch it. I skipped about a third of Season 4's episodes because I knew or heard what they consisted of, and I'm better off having not watched those three-or-so hours of content since I wouldn't've enjoyed it. Would've been better if I spent those three hours doing something other than bitching about other things on the Internet, but my point stands.

36782251

>>36782239
Then let me ask you this question:

What would happen if Tirek just murdered Twilight's friends, even if she willingly gives up the alicorn magic? And what if afterward, the rest of the entire series was just that one fight between Twilight and Tirek? Would that be even worse than the Rainbow Power, Rainbow Castle, and your worst key episodes?

I mean, DBZ's fights dragged on for too many chapters/episodes, and the same went for Naruto and Bleach. All three manga had villains so invincible and unstoppable, that they didn't even have any weaknesses at all, and took too many chapters/episodes to be defeated as a result. At least with One Piece, the villains were much more fallible, and didn't take an unnecessarily long period of time to be defeated. Sosuke Aizen? Madara Uchiha? They were so all-powerful and almost immortal, that even though it was supposed to raise the stakes, it instead reduced the fights with these villains into tedious, repetitive chores.

And that's what would've described Twilight's fight with Tirek, especially if Meghan McCarthy went so far as to actually murder Twilight's friends. It could've dragged for the rest of the entire series, thus destroying everything that made MLP good in the first place, perhaps more so than the one-minute fight actually did.

Last edited at Sat, Oct 25th, 2014 13:40

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36782252

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>>36782251
>Would that be even worse than the Rainbow Power, Rainbow Castle, and your worst key episodes?

Yes. I don't know why that's even a question to ask, of course it would be. I just find it unrealistic; the rest of the mane six may not hold the #1 spot in toy sales but Hasbro isn't going to let them be axed because they do make money.

Do you think I'm one of those guys that shills McCarthy and Twilicorn? You seem to act like I don't find Twilicorn to be worst pony.

36782255

>>36782251
>What would happen if Tirek just murdered Twilight's friends, even if she willingly gives up the alicorn magic?

Then the show would be over and it would win the award for the most depressing series ever. The End.

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36782260

>>36782255
And then Madoka and Eva fans would praise it as being deep and artsy and all the mane six deserved it.

36782288

>>36782252
That's because Twilight's Kingdom was constantly being praised for its "genre transcending" (and I mean it loosely) fight scene, but then people are like, "I hate the Rainbow Power and Rainbow Castle because of their designs and purposes in the story." Meanwhile, the five key episodes backing up the finale were just mixed, with three of them considered the worst, and the other two considered the best.

As a result, I had to come up with those ridiculous assumptions that either Meghan McCarthy or the bronies had given up on the show's friendship themes, just to turn it into DBZ, both aesthetically as well as thematically (as in no friendship and teamwork at all, but rather racial supremacy of the alicorns/saiyans at the expense of almost every other species).

But really, if I can't mention these assumptions, then what am I supposed to believe, aside from this whole "execution" business?

Last edited at Sun, Oct 26th, 2014 10:37

Fluttershutter!vBKzsttvbU 36782289

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>>36782288
McCarthy has a Twilicorn fetish. And probably a Twilicorn body pillow. We already have fucking racial supremacy because McCarthy never lets problems be solved non-magically, and some people on this site act like it's meant to be like that because "muh dystopian tyrannical headcanon."

Despite that, the show isn't going to turn into DBZ. McCarthy might violate it fifty other ways, but they aren't going to start killing off main characters unless toy sales absolutely tank.

36782292

>>36782289
Well, I'd rather that the Mane Five were equal to Twilight. Sure, they can't blow up stuff the same way as her, but they possess multitudes of other talents that differentiate themselves from her, and by extension from each other. It's why we had the key episodes, to show that even though the Mane Five were disempowered and victimized by Tirek, they at least earned their own keys by resolving problems based on their Elements of Harmony, and teaching somepony else about their Elements as a result -- that is, go down fighting.

And yeah. Despite me calling the Mane Five victims, I've all of a sudden turned around and said that they earned their keys, and thus went down fighting! And before you ask why, I don't really know, myself.

36782294

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>>36782288
>That's because Twilight's Kingdom was constantly being praised for its "genre transcending" (and I mean it loosely) fight scene

No it wasn't. People thought it was new and different and exciting, but no one said 'genre transcending'. Got a source for that?

>then people are like, "I hate the Rainbow Power and Rainbow Castle because of their designs and purposes in the story."

Because Rainbow Power LOOKS silly but the CONCEPT of it is widely accepted.

And the same goes with Twilight's Castle, they think it is a gaudy crystal mess. ((See image for one person's idea of how it should have looked. Not much different, but the colors are now easier to look at.) But as before, the CONCEPT is still widely accepted.

>Meanwhile, the five key episodes backing up the finale were just mixed, with three of them considered the worst, and the other two considered the best.

OH dear God, people have different opinions, what a travesty! You can run a poll on the ratings of each of those episodes ten times and get ten different ideas.

36782438

>>36782294
The fight was superficially exciting, but as multitudes of people kept telling me, Twilight didn't even win that fight. She ended it in a draw, and by the time Tirek held all of her friends hostage, she willingly gave up the alicorn magic to save her friends, earning herself her final key from Discord in the process, just so that they could unlock Rainbow Power and use it to love and tolerate the shit out of Tirek.

Unfortunately, people kept saying that the fight scene was actually done better than the Rainbow Power, Rainbow Castle, and some of the five key episodes. That technically implied that Meghan McCarthy had given up on the show's friendship themes, just so that she could turn it into Dragon Ball Z. Now, I'm perfectly aware that there are people who constantly told me otherwise. But if that's the case, then what the hay am I supposed to believe, instead?

Last edited at Tue, Oct 28th, 2014 06:07

36782439

>>36782438
>Unfortunately, people kept saying that the fight scene was actually done better than the Rainbow Power, Rainbow Castle, and some of the five key episodes.
Who?

>That technically implied that Meghan McCarthy had given up on the show's friendship themes
No it doesn't.

>just so that she could turn it into Dragon Ball Z.
Does she even know what that show is?

> Now, I'm perfectly aware that there are people who constantly told me otherwise. But if that's the case, then what the hay am I supposed to believe, instead?
We don't care! Just stop bitching about things that don't exist.

36782596

>>36782439
>Who?

When you said, "who?", did you mean that no one said that the Twilight/Tirek fight was done better than the key episodes, the Rainbow Power, and the Rainbow Castle?

36782626

>>36782596
I don't remember it.

36782868

>>36782626
Also, you said that I could run ten different polls on the five key episodes, and receive ten different results.

Then what explained that Episode Battle poll on Equestria Daily? Breezies, Rainbow Falls, and Leap of Faith received the least votes out of those key episodes. Rarity Takes Manehattan took third place, while Pinkie Pride took second. But Twilight's Kingdom defeated all of them by a landslide, mostly because of that bloated fight scene that discarded the Mane Five in-exchange for a Super Saiyan bad-ass Twilight Sparkle.

36782871

>>36782868
Everything you said was very well grounded, and a very good question.. right up to this:

>mostly because of that bloated fight scene that discarded the Mane Five in-exchange for a Super Saiyan bad-ass Twilight Sparkle.

YOU do not know why those people voted the way they voted. So stop assuming you do.

And that isn't even a very good counter to my statement as it is ONE POLL. Not all of Bronydom visits Equestria Daily and does it's polls. For example: ME. I saw it and didn't care about keeping up with it. I just want news and move on.

36782875

>>36782871
Wait. Are you saying that people disliking Breezies, Leap of Faith, and Rainbow Falls were grounded in reality? As in everyone hated these episodes?

Because I liked those episodes but hated the finale. AJ, RD, and Fluttershy all received character-development and relevancy to the S4-long story-arc, alongside Pinkie Pie and Rarity, long before all five of them were discarded and disposed of to make way for Twilight's power levels.

Last edited at Tue, Nov 4th, 2014 11:32

36782877

>>36782875
You must be delusional! I said nothing of the sort!

You had ONE POLL made up mainly of people who visit EqD and GIVE A FUCK. It is not even scientific in the slightest! Stop using it as a basis for your madness!

Anonymous 36785343

>>36781280
Are you Thomas?

Anonymous 36785344

>>36781280
Are you Thomas?>>36781280

36785346

Are you Thomas?>>36781280

36785349

>>36781293
Are you Thomas

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