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Poll: The United States Presidential Election of 2016 [Brohoof Edition] (38 member(s) have cast votes)

Who would you vote for?

  1. Hillary Clinton (1 votes [2.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.86%

  2. Bernie Sanders (17 votes [48.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 48.57%

  3. Donald Trump (15 votes [42.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 42.86%

  4. John Kasich (2 votes [5.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.71%

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#101 frost73ite

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Posted 01 May 2016 - 09:07 PM

For now, the best option is homeschooling, as the system is so messed up. Programs like the "no student left behind" act, and such only aim for an equality of outcome, rather than an improvement in education. As I don't personally have experience or training as an educator, I can't offer any specifics. I know and understand the problems and the concepts that can overall fix the problems, however; lacking the appropriate specifics, I can't offer a solution. I'd certainly recommend talking to teachers as well as homeschooling parents to see what steps would best overcome the problems we face.



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Posted 01 May 2016 - 09:13 PM

I was home schooled my entire life up until going to engineering school (college) in South Dakota. It's been very good for me. I would recommend to any of you going into the age group where your thinking about having foals seriously consider home school. It's good for your offspring and good for the country.


Edited by Trotsky, 01 May 2016 - 09:13 PM.


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Posted 02 May 2016 - 12:19 AM

i support hillary clinton

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Posted 02 May 2016 - 12:20 AM

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 03:02 AM

Ted Cruz has officially dropped out of the race as of May 3rd.


Edited by Ignatius of Aetheria, 04 May 2016 - 03:02 AM.


#106 Npaws

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 01:01 PM

Squint, The color of the Founding Fathers skin has nothing to do with it.

It actually does have something to do with the argument.

Back then, a lot of our founding fathers were still slave-owning native American hating racists. :)

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Edited by Npaws, 04 May 2016 - 01:02 PM.


#107 frost73ite

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 06:09 PM

The fact of the matter is that Washington, Jefferson, and all of the rest of the northern delegates were wanting slavery abolished as part of the ratification of the Constitution, which replaced the Articles of Confederation as the foundational federal law, upon which the newly formed nation was founded. The southern states representatives refused, until a compromise was agreed to that they be granted 100 years to give them time to find ways to replace slave labor in their extremely labor intensive main crops of tobacco and cotton.

Furthermore, Africans were not the only people who were slaves during that period. In fact, Irish men and women would be sold into slavery as well, and often treated worse than their African counterparts.  Slavery was not about race. It never has been about race or hate. It was always used as a means to reduce the cost of producing goods or maintaining sizeable property.

There is nothing about the founders of this country to indicate that they hated the indigenous people of this land. Were there conflicts? Yes. Were there battles? Yes. That, however; is where the story during the founding and before the westward movement diverges from the claims of the anti-constitutional movement. The truth is that the majority of early American colonists and the leaders of each state had relatively good relationships with the natives. It wasn't until much later when the idea of "manifest destiny", and the drive westward that the "native American hating racists" began to come into power.

George Washington himself worked side by side with the natives multiple times, both before and during the Revolutionary War during battles and afterward. Furthermore, according to accounts, he freed the people he had held as slaves, and those who continued in his service were paid fair wages according to the contemporary standard. According to those accounts, most stayed on.

 

The people who are feeding the public the lies that slavery was about hate or race, or that the Founding Fathers hated Native Americans are the very same people who want to strip us ALL of our rights and freedoms, so they can establish a totalitarian government, and rule us, rather than govern according to justice and equality.

 

As I said, skin color had nothing to do with it.



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Posted 05 May 2016 - 07:49 PM



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Posted 06 May 2016 - 06:17 AM

It could be argued to a point that most of our rights and freedoms are already gone. The government does seem to be slowly shifting itself completely away from the focus of the people and more and more on the power of the presidency. Yet it is actually the congressmen who are tasked with making and modifying legislation. The president's only task is to see it executed. Yet most presidential campaigns don't really seem to focus too much on how to better implement congress's mandates, but rather at implementing new policies. A roll the president is not directly supposed to be involved in. Also the recent activities of, we simply won't enforce what we don't approve of, is a near criminal abuse of the principal of equal enforcement, and is severely undermining Congress's ability to do anything in a logical manner. In other words, there have been a few times lately where it seems the presidency has done something akin to telling Congress, You can do whatever you want, and I'll just pick and choose what I do with basically no input from you. I can approve of what you do, but if I don't like it, it's not happening. This behavior is a major problem.



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Posted 06 May 2016 - 11:36 AM

I agree, which is why I recommend voting for Constitutionally aligned candidates in all levels of the government. Change can only be made if the majority will take action this election, and have a true revolution, by placing in power people who will protect and defend the Constitution, and overthrow the laws and regulations that subvert, infringe, or deny our Constitutional rights.

 

This election cycle, the only people who will be on the ballots that are Constitution friendly are the Libertarian candidates. While I don't advocate parties in general, and am hesitant to say any one party as a whole better supports the Constitution, for now, the best choices are in that party.


Edited by frost73ite, 06 May 2016 - 11:39 AM.


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Posted 10 May 2016 - 02:56 AM

Guys, it's like this: They're all assholes.


Hillary Clinton can't be trusted with government secrets.

John Kasich is, frankly, inept as far as public relations.

Donald Trump is a totalitarian that threatens individual freedom.

Bernie Sanders is a socialist that doesn't know how to integrate his ideas in a free market and also threatens individual freedoms in a similar fashion to Trump.


They are all terrible and cannot be trusted. I would almost sooner vote for Vermin Supreme. I'd at least get a pony.

Also, I take issue with the claims that the Constitution is outdated: It cannot be because the amendment process exists to prevent exactly that. Slavery is no longer allowed thanks to the 13th Amendment. Judicial review, a critical part of the government, doesn't even exist in the Constitution. Clearly, the Constitution itself is not the problem, but those who carry out, create, and interpret the laws.

I also have an issue with claims that our Constitutional rights are disappearing. They may often be threatened, but they are still there. I have not been arrested for: Publishing certain ideas, speaking certain ideas, assembling peaceably, petitioning the government, or expressing/discussing/choosing a religion.

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Posted 10 May 2016 - 05:18 AM

Freedom of Speech is not the only freedom, and even that may be viewed in a very warped light. The press certainly seems to reflect certain political agendas at times, and picks sides in stuff it shouldn't. There's more to free speech than just saying what you please, and I do think for certain things you could say, you would get a reaction out of the federal government. Perhaps the point though is not what the problem is, as I think we're all fairly clear on that, but rather how to go about fixing it in a plausible manner. As for all the candidates sucking, this is hardly a new phenomenon. They've all sucked for years, We have a two party system in which neither party seems to care about much except outweighing the opposing party to achieve it's particular agenda. The good of the country as a whole seems to be rather a secondary consideration. This is also a major issue I take with most special interest groups, that vote solely on one particular issue rather than considering the good of the nation as a whole. However it does seem to be that getting elected is really little more than a popularity contest than an organized political endeavor, and so most political candidates these days seem to be caught in the unpleasant situation of trying to please everyone to gain support, so siding with some and trying to not get on the bad side of the opposing party. I don't know but I would imagine this sort of pressure would lead to some rather awkward positions once in office. This is why I am in favor of having a minimum required knowledge before voting in an election, as the voters must be at least mildly informed on what they're actually doing. (Of course we all know reinstating a nationwide voter test would never pass, and would be viewed as racist for no reason in particular) This is currently not the case, and near anyone can vote. There was a poll once: http://www.mediaite....-of-government/that shows that most Americans can't even name the three branches of the federal government, and yet these people are allowed to participate in the selection of the people who will run our nation. I don't mean to rustle any feathers here, or get anyone upset, but please explain to me why we can allow people to vote in something that they don't even know what it is they are doing?



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Posted 19 May 2016 - 05:51 AM

I vote Constitution first.
Hillary has actually violated several federal laws, and needs to be tried for them.
Bernie Sanders is an admitted socialist, and his policies are anti-constitutional.
Trump has made blatantly prejudicial statements, and advocated violence from his supporters against his detractors IN PUBLIC FORUMS!
So far, Cruz seems to be most constitutionally grounded.
I don't know enough about Kaisch to make any comments.


I agree completely. It looks like we're screwed either way now though


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