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Poll: Pvp in new col world? yes or no (47 member(s) have cast votes)

do you want it?

  1. yes (12 votes [25.53%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 25.53%

  2. no (4 votes [8.51%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 8.51%

  3. have it with toggle so those who want to can (like in current col world) (31 votes [65.96%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 65.96%

do you want greif/raiding allowed?

  1. yes (10 votes [21.74%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 21.74%

  2. no (25 votes [54.35%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 54.35%

  3. if both parties agree (11 votes [23.91%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 23.91%

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#1 greenjoe12345

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 03:20 PM

i was talking to Hx on the server and he was saying that the new col world will have pvp.

i am against this as is he, as well as a few other people on the server who i was also talking to.

please give your vote!

also post your opinions

EDIT: added another question!


Edited by greenjoe12345, 21 November 2014 - 03:50 PM.


#2 Avi

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 03:28 PM

Definitely toggle it, so those who like to PVP and who are good at it, can. And those who don't like to PVP (Such as myself), and who are not good at it (Again, such as myself), don't have to!  



#3 greenjoe12345

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 03:29 PM

yeah i agree.

i do not really want greif and raiding allowed either.

ponies should mine or trade for stuff, not just steal it from other who worked hard to get it.


Edited by greenjoe12345, 16 November 2014 - 03:30 PM.


#4 Avi

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 03:35 PM

Yeah, it's turning into less of a "pony" idea. I do like the idea of the ships and submarines though, I have to say. I'm just worried about how all the ponies will be able to mine. There is land though, correct?



#5 greenjoe12345

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 03:36 PM

i guess so, but it would be fun to take a sub to the seafloor then start digging down there



#6 Spotsy

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 03:41 PM

I'll be honest. I don;t want to come onto col 2 to be spawnkilled. More than that, I don't want to come online to see all my stuff gone, my boat blown to bits, and people taking all the crap i work for. No point in playing if you are just going to lose what you worked for. I can;t even fight due to when i spam click on my keypad, it only clicks once for every five times. Therefore it makes it difficult for me to fight mobs, let alone a whole team of players. I have to keep doing /class cast radiance just to fight off mobs


Edited by Seikatsu, 16 November 2014 - 03:42 PM.


#7 greenjoe12345

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 03:43 PM

i agree with you



#8 Npaws

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 04:42 PM

Macros are a thing, derpy.

#9 Spotsy

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 04:44 PM

Macros are a thing, derpy.

Dunno what those are



#10 Dinges360

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 05:13 PM

About the griefing, I'd say allow it, but only if both parties of a ''war'' accept raiding as part of it.



#11 Super Ultra Uber C00l Dood

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 05:16 PM

Macros are a thing, derpy.

 

Not everyone has macros in their keyboards, as well as it's kind of hard to program them.



#12 Npaws

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 06:08 PM

Not everyone has macros in their keyboards, as well as it's kind of hard to program them.

I'm sure if you asked for help on the server, you'd get it. But no its really not that complicated in the modpack

#13 Squint

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 07:30 PM

/god

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#14 Spotsy

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 07:53 PM

Not everyone has macros in their keyboards, as well as it's kind of hard to program them.

And as far as i'm aware, i don't think my keyboard has macros in it

whatever those are :/



#15 Super Ultra Uber C00l Dood

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 08:21 PM

And as far as i'm aware, i don't think my keyboard has macros in it

whatever those are :/

 

Basically everytime you press a macro key, it does a pre-loaded command. Say, if you press G1, you create an entire sentence. Or press a certain button that can normally be distant.



#16 Lieutenant Delta

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 08:36 PM

Opens up more fights, cheating, problems, and overall things I'm sure the admins don't want to deal with. It brings a entire spectrum of 'it was unfair' if someone killed another, accusations of using mods, or problems when players didn't give things back. That is something I truly don't think would fit very well with a server like Brohoof, especially with such friendly surroundings. Don't you notice that PvP servers usually have a much darker and cold atmosphere? I don't think that's something we want, Col's purpose in my eyes was to bring survival to Brohoof, and that's enough. I know people enjoy PVP and it won't be a problem for them, but that's why you can turn it off and on, for others it's unfair that they don't get a choice.

 

If you want to kill eachother, toggle it, or just /ungod on the server and fight in a arena or something. It changes the game completely when you're able to kill people


Edited by Δ Delta Δ, 16 November 2014 - 08:40 PM.


#17 Rainbow Dash McStarley

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 08:50 PM

We do have plans to deal with these issues you guys have, perhaps for or perhaps against.

 

In the interest of not unbalancing the poll, I won't say what and how, but do keep in mind that we (the staff) also argues things like this. It'll be interesting to see how these match up/differ.



#18 Doctor Charcoal

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 08:57 PM

Well, we should include some feature where if one town/faction was to, well, lets say declare war for a lack of better words. Or if this cannot be done, perhaps have a thread for announcements. At least we would know when some would want to fight and do whatever they would like to do. I always like to think of Col as more of a Civilizations 5 game, where there can be peace and prosperity, but also war and fighting.

 

I agree with Swim. I've been on many different survival servers, particularly on servers with the popular mod "ICBM". This mod includes many missiles and bombs, such as nuclear stuff as well. And on anarchy servers, there are nuke holes everywhere. I mean, everywhere around the spawn. And even on regular Minecraft, largely populated survival PVP servers have been griefed a ton. Now, if we made it more organized, like as I said above, I think, although hard, will work much better if executed correctly. And plus, allowing PVP without organization will make way for tricksters and people who trick people into helping them, but then killing them and taking their stuff.

 

So, in summery, I think PVP should only be used in allowed wars and for solving conflicts, if both sides agree that peace is not an option. But this was my opinion, and I hope I'm not conflicting with anyone elses.



#19 Wolf I.E.

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 09:21 PM

Honestly, for raiding, I think it should be allowed, but not griefing.

 

For example, if one faction/town wants to raid the other, then they may have a war.

 

However, I think that factions shouldn't be able to raid random, alone people.

 

As for PVP, you should be able to toggle it. You can do /toggle pvp on, then /toggle pvp off.



#20 AshleyChristina

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 04:28 PM

About the griefing, I'd say allow it, but only if both parties of a ''war'' accept raiding as part of it.

i agree

 

i want this



#21 Pip_DK19

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 06:35 PM

well i like pvp, but not randomly, i would like to go around only fearing mobs, I for one would like to see some type of conqueror in the col, if one faction/town wants to conqueror another faction/town/players area/island, then they should declare it and they can negotiate an agreement or take up arms. fighting in a naval battle(last ship standing win) or land based fight(last player stand win) or however the different plugins allow it. a set arena match. 
but i do say that looting/raiding should not be allowed. if it is going to be a island map, i would like to see the more islands a faction/town own the greater  special features it is allowed to have(like the town citizen reward we have now).
or we could just solve it all in game at some point :)

I want to toggle pvp, and i would never want to be subject to grief/raiding or do it my self...



#22 Super Ultra Uber C00l Dood

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 07:08 PM

Could you modify the poll adding the addition 'If both parties agree' at the grief/raiding question? Because that would be exactly what I'm voting for.



#23 Squint

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 07:34 PM

For the raiding thing, definitely make it so that if one person in the town doesn't agree to the raid, they won't have their stuff taken.



#24 Starlight of the Stars

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 08:12 PM

I would have it so PvP can only be on OUTSIDE of faction territories. The only time it should be allowed in a faction territory is if the two factions are at war. Towny should have a setting for that if i recall

 

The same rules should also for raiding or greifing but only if both parties agree and should set limit to how much can be taken. perhaps 10% of materials and town bank money



#25 Cloud Gazer

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 01:13 AM

I think Greifing should only be allowed during War times on enemy lands.



#26 Super Ultra Uber C00l Dood

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 03:56 PM

Hey look new option, fucking gonna vote for that



#27 greenjoe12345

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 04:03 PM

For the raiding thing, definitely make it so that if one person in the town doesn't agree to the raid, they won't have their stuff taken.

i agree to that, i would be upset if i was away, and while i was away the town i was in was raided and my stuff was taken

also is the server down right now?


Edited by greenjoe12345, 21 November 2014 - 04:05 PM.


#28 Super Ultra Uber C00l Dood

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Posted 22 November 2014 - 01:29 PM

Well, shall an admin lock this now?



#29 greenjoe12345

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Posted 22 November 2014 - 02:04 PM

i dont know, it seems that this poll has had no effect on what happend



#30 Super Ultra Uber C00l Dood

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Posted 22 November 2014 - 07:59 PM

i dont know, it seems that this poll has had no effect on what happend

 

https://www.brohoof....-of-engagement/



#31 greenjoe12345

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 01:33 PM

yeah but it is still anyone can attack anyone, a changeling killed me yesterday.

if it was with toggle then ponies who want to pvp can and ponies who do not want to pvp (like me) can just stay safe from pvp


Edited by greenjoe12345, 23 November 2014 - 01:34 PM.


#32 AshleyChristina

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 10:04 PM

A changling killed you?

 

who was it? 

 

I will see that they are punished as seen fit



#33 Wolf I.E.

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 11:01 PM

Most likely 4rm4nd0, Solic3, or someone else.



#34 Doctor Charcoal

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 11:07 PM

It was killmonster, I believe



#35 Mix

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 11:33 PM

Yeah, Killmonster.



#36 AshleyChristina

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Posted 25 November 2014 - 06:00 AM

ugh i keep telling him to stop that  :ajbemused:

 

then again his name is ...*sighs* killmonster.

 

ill make sure he dosnt do it again, you have my sincerest apologies.



#37 tudexd

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Posted 25 November 2014 - 10:14 AM

did this become ''the whinnying about  PVP thread''? 



#38 greenjoe12345

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Posted 28 November 2014 - 07:07 PM

seems that it did  :rainbowlaugh:




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