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#101 Asriel Dreemurr

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Posted 11 August 2015 - 10:58 AM

Randomly came across this today. Windows 10 "Godmode"

 

http://www.eteknix.c...ws-10-god-mode/



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Posted 12 August 2015 - 01:03 AM

I just got my first BSOD. It's pathetic. Apparently this new minimalistic BSOD has been a thing since WIndows 8, but I never got one back then. There was literally one useful piece of information. It was some IRQL problem, so likely a faulty driver, but that was it. Nothing about where a dump file would be made. No STOP code. Nothing.

It was just a :( face along with some useless mess



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Posted 12 August 2015 - 01:18 AM

You could try seeing if it made a crash dump, and look for a tool to analyze it.

http://www.tenforums...ndows-10-a.html how to enable dumps. They should go in C:\Windows\Minidump. I would just do the small minidump option, since who cares what was in ram, the important part is what triggered the crash. You can also try unchecking "restart on crash", in case that makes it show a more useful screen, but I'm just speculating.

http://www.nirsoft.n...creen_view.html that was my favorite viewer, but I don't know if it works in windows 10.

https://msdn.microso...9(v=vs.85).aspx a useful page about looking at dumps, if you have visual studio, or other debugging tools, but that's beyond my experience.

Or.... maybe there's an option to enable a useful screen on crash? I couldn't find one.

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Posted 12 August 2015 - 01:34 AM

Hmm. I'll have to try those out.

 

Anyways, anybody know good Linux distros that are like Windows, but without all the dumbing down?



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Posted 12 August 2015 - 02:35 AM

Randomly came across this today. Windows 10 "Godmode"

 

http://www.eteknix.c...ws-10-god-mode/

You know me and technology stuff hoovi, so,

What the hell is god mode, his words, I no speak



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Posted 12 August 2015 - 02:41 AM

Hmm. I'll have to try those out.
 
Anyways, anybody know good Linux distros that are like Windows, but without all the dumbing down?


I've heard good things about this one, its based on Ubuntu.

http://www.linuxmint.com/

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Posted 12 August 2015 - 04:34 AM

Late to the party. Finally installing Windows 10 right now. I just hope all of my ten or so programs work after this...

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Posted 12 August 2015 - 04:43 AM

Just remember to disable all the NSA-ware



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Posted 12 August 2015 - 04:46 AM

The nsa is after my reserve muffins!



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Posted 12 August 2015 - 06:40 AM

Hmm. I'll have to try those out.

Anyways, anybody know good Linux distros that are like Windows, but without all the dumbing down?

I use Manjaro, but it is a bit advanced. PCLinuxOS or Mageia might be good places to start. Definitely something with KDE

IMO Mint is 'dumbed down'

Edited by Night_Breeze, 12 August 2015 - 06:43 AM.


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Posted 12 August 2015 - 07:05 AM

Well, as long as I can change settings and don't have to type sudo shutdown every time I want to turn off my computer then I'll be okay. I had that problem with Ubuntu last time I tried using it. It simply would not play nice with a normal ACPI shutdown signal.



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Posted 12 August 2015 - 07:17 AM

I suggest Elementary OS.



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Posted 12 August 2015 - 07:28 AM

Hmm, looks a lot like OS X, which I don't like, but it looks like the skin can be changed. I'll look around and see what I can find.

 

 

Anyways, if I do this I'll probably start a new thread, since I don't want to derail this one any further.



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Posted 14 August 2015 - 03:43 PM

Don't know if anyone else noticed this but if you liked the windows 8.1 start menu, the windows 10 one can be similar, there is an option for start screen to be fullscreen in PC Settings.

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Posted 15 August 2015 - 10:07 PM

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 02:34 AM

I'm really disappointed now. It's not Like Win8 where you could just dismiss it as a terrible OS. Windows 10 is genuinely good. It looks good and just works, but allows for customization if you want, although it does take a certain amount of knowledge. It boots very quickly and the tools included work well, but the problem is that they can't keep their hands off of your data. From keyloggers to telemetry data, Windows has become a platform for Microsoft to milk every last penny out of their customers, and that is NOT okay. You can argue that they can becasue people got it for free, but the free upgrade is limited. I would be furious if I had paid full price for Windows and then found out that it was stuffed with tracking and ad services. That's why I've started using Linux. Obviously I can't just switch over, but Windows 10 has crossed a line into a place I don't want to be, and I want to get off asap.



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Posted 18 August 2015 - 08:06 AM

I know what you mean. They even made it so you can't edit your hosts file to block it, it reminds me of some of the things I've seen in viruses since it is hardcoded in a dll.
http://www.dslreport...es-to-host-file

Windows 7 is still awesome and everything works. We're probably far away from a game coming out that won't run on whatever the latest directx that will work on win7. I'm not sure what to do at that point, maybe by then there will be a really nice and easy to use app that just neuters all the privacy invading stuff with 1 click.

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 08:22 AM

I'm really disappointed now. It's not Like Win8 where you could just dismiss it as a terrible OS. Windows 10 is genuinely good. It looks good and just works, but allows for customization if you want, although it does take a certain amount of knowledge. It boots very quickly and the tools included work well, but the problem is that they can't keep their hands off of your data. From keyloggers to telemetry data, Windows has become a platform for Microsoft to milk every last penny out of their customers, and that is NOT okay. You can argue that they can becasue people got it for free, but the free upgrade is limited. I would be furious if I had paid full price for Windows and then found out that it was stuffed with tracking and ad services. That's why I've started using Linux. Obviously I can't just switch over, but Windows 10 has crossed a line into a place I don't want to be, and I want to get off asap.

 

Windows 10 was the trigger that actually pushed me to use Ubuntu for my primary/gaming rig OS.  My driving factor is that I'm pissed with vendors, in general, mucking up my user experience.  My motto now is if I want change, I'll add it myself.  It took me a full weekend to jump over the learning curve but when rage becomes your motivation, you'll find a work around for anything.

 

I feel this is a prime example of what happens when Executives allow Marketing and Sales to drive the company's direction.  I once viewed Linux people as tin foil hat wearing crazies but now I'm beginning to understand the community mindset of Open Source.


Edited by ZeBraffels, 18 August 2015 - 09:27 AM.


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Posted 18 August 2015 - 05:24 PM

I'd try linux desktop again, but the killer for me is making games work. Even if I got them to work, it would always have a lower frame rate when using things like Wine. But then again, GPU technology is at the point where I could lose some FPS and not care much, if it can mean no unblockable data being sent to Microsoft. I mean damn, people thing google is bad with the privacy thing, but they don't send it when you opt out, and bypass proxies to do it!

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 07:50 PM

Agh, I have to find away to play Halo wars 2 without Win 10 or an Xbone. A year to figure it out and probably will have to wait for tutorial work arounds. Just encase the gameplay videos they will release next year are decent or comparable to the original halo wars. I just like to be prepared or take fact that Eldorito will be my last halo pc game.



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Posted 18 August 2015 - 09:01 PM

Wait what data are they even looking at? I don't really care if they know where I am or what brand of toilet paper I like to buy. :c



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Posted 18 August 2015 - 10:21 PM

Wait what data are they even looking at? I don't really care if they know where I am or what brand of toilet paper I like to buy. :c

They know what porn you watch



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Posted 18 August 2015 - 10:36 PM

They know what porn you watch

 

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 11:07 PM

I know what you mean. They even made it so you can't edit your hosts file to block it, it reminds me of some of the things I've seen in viruses since it is hardcoded in a dll.
http://www.dslreport...es-to-host-file

you could install dd-wrt or open-wrt on your router and edit the host file there

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 11:45 PM

They know what porn you watch

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 11:54 PM

Wait what data are they even looking at? I don't really care if they know where I am or what brand of toilet paper I like to buy. :c


https://en.wikipedia...o_hide_argument
So if you have nothing to hide, can I log into your PC, turn on the webcam and post pics of what's on it?
The data being sent has a list of every app you run and how long you're running it. If you're not interesting enough of a target, that's fine, but some of us take offense at things like this being done without our permission, and add to that not being able to turn it off, then add to that it circumvent being blocked. If people want to stick up for Microsoft and use the nothing to hide argument, you're not helping.

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 11:59 PM

you could install dd-wrt or open-wrt on your router and edit the host file there

 

They always seem to support every router except the one you own.



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Posted 19 August 2015 - 02:00 AM

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Wait what data are they even looking at? I don't really care if they know where I am or what brand of toilet paper I like to buy. :c

Well they know what you type all the time and will give ad companies your most viewed sites and searched items for money. Those ad companies fire off targeted ads at you either by mail, internet ads, and email. They also keep your data for future use if you become a big shot in anyway. They also give the info to feds for any number of reasons. Then the rare cases that one of these overseers become an internet stalker and they be creepy on your every keystroke. 

 

Also 

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Websites selling your data to privacy breaking sites that your overly defensive parents or girlfriend/boyfriend may waste their money on to be overly controlling 


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Posted 19 August 2015 - 08:30 AM

Also always think of this stuff from a hacker's point of view. Is there anything that would do damage to you if it was revealed to everyone? If Microsoft is collecting all this usage data without your consent, Microsoft may or not may do anything irresponsible with it, but could an attacker? I'd rather decide where my personal info goes, or app usage or any other data that could be used to launch specific attacks against me. We're all responsible for our own privacy, if you just laugh and say "Oh I have nothing to hide", then you're going to deserve it if anything bad happens. I guess if most people here are under 18, they don't exactly have bank accounts with hundreds of thousands of dollars in it to worry about. And given how many people have installed Windows 10 and don't know all that it comes with, there's a lot bigger targets than you guys, so hopefully you'll all be safe.

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Posted 19 August 2015 - 08:33 AM

When people say "I have nothing to hide" it makes me want to punch them in the throat. If you have nothing to hide then why do you cover your windows with curtains? Why do you put a password on your phone? Why would you keep certain documents inside of a safe?



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Posted 19 August 2015 - 08:42 AM

They always seem to support every router except the one you own.


Or install a DNS server on your box and filter it out there. IMO it won't be that effective in stopping this through, it will be better to find something that actually neuters it via a 3rd party fix. I'll be sure to share it if I find something.

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Posted 19 August 2015 - 08:50 AM

Or install a DNS server on your box and filter it out there. IMO it won't be that effective in stopping this through, it will be better to find something that actually neuters it via a 3rd party fix. I'll be sure to share it if I find something.

 

 

Please do, and that goes for anyone else who finds helpful tools. People aren't going to just stop using Windows 10, so I may as well give them as many resources as possible to help mitigate Micro$oft's bullshit romp.


I want to reiterate that I really do like Windows 10 at its core. It's a great OS with lots of great features, but what they've done to their customer base is atrocious.



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Posted 19 August 2015 - 09:34 AM

It's always possible that they'll retreat and have an easy option to disable it that actually disables it, but only if people put up a fuss.

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Posted 19 August 2015 - 11:15 PM

The mail app is obviously powered by Internet Explorer.

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Posted 08 September 2015 - 08:39 AM

I found a tool that supposedly disables telemetry, as in actually disabled. Not, "let the user think it's disabled when it really isn't", disabled.

https://www.safer-ne...ot-anti-beacon/

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Posted 20 September 2015 - 04:51 PM

Here's how to disable the "get office" notifications.

http://www.howtogeek...-on-windows-10/



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Posted 21 September 2015 - 12:00 AM

How to disable "Get office": Install office.



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Posted 21 September 2015 - 12:25 AM

How to disable "Get office": Install office.

 

I can't think of a good reason to give them any more money.



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Posted 21 September 2015 - 12:30 AM

Well, sometimes giving your lunch money to the bully is the best way to make them stop punching you.

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 12:55 AM

or you can punch the bully in the face and stop putting up with his shit



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Posted 21 September 2015 - 01:11 AM

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 06:10 AM

If you have a .edu email address, they'll give it to you for free. https://products.off...m/en-us/student



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Posted 10 October 2015 - 06:51 AM

You better start learning Linux becasue you won't have a control panel for much longer.


Edited by Luna Lens, 10 October 2015 - 06:56 AM.


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Posted 10 October 2015 - 07:03 AM

I've been using arch Linux with the mate DE

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Posted 10 October 2015 - 07:24 AM

Control panel always did suck. Is whatever comes with Windows 10 that replaces it even worse? I just use the search thing to find what I need anyway.

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Posted 10 October 2015 - 04:40 PM

The settings App will replace control panel. It's a minimalistic clusterfuck interface. I always liked Control Panel. I always set it to "category" though. It keeps the clutter down.

Here's hoping "God Mode" keeps working.

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Posted 10 October 2015 - 05:37 PM

I'm still on Windows 7 until there's any benefit to upgrading.

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Posted 10 October 2015 - 05:41 PM

For me it was performance for games, but if they dumb it down more I will install Ubuntu and Wine.


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