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Poll: RP Submissions (11 member(s) have cast votes)

What's your opinion on RP Submissions?

  1. I like the system and think it should stay (5 votes [45.45%])

    Percentage of vote: 45.45%

  2. I do not like the system and think it should go (5 votes [45.45%])

    Percentage of vote: 45.45%

  3. Other (please specify your stance in a reply) (1 votes [9.09%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.09%

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#1 Npaws

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 01:27 AM

Simple question



#2 Captain Char

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 09:51 AM

the system is designed to filter out "bad" rp's though i don't define any really as bad, since each is a learning experience for the roleplayer

#3 Npaws

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 09:14 PM

It seems like a recent issue was not having enough RP mods to sort through the submissions, causing people to become agitated.  Maybe we could fix that?



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Posted 22 July 2015 - 10:52 PM

For those voting no, put your reasons in a post and reply to the thread. Simply voting in a thread isn't going to change anything.

#5 Blazuhira Miller

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 10:58 PM

For those voting no, put your reasons in a post and reply to the thread. Simply voting in a thread isn't going to change anything.

Alrighty. I think going through the arduous process of making and improving an rp to get it approved just to throw it out into the water and see if it sinks or swims is pointless and wastes everybody's time.



#6 Npaws

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 10:59 PM

personally.  I think the RP system was fine and BETTER how it used to be.

 


Alrighty. I think going through the arduous process of making and improving an rp to get it approved just to throw it out into the water and see if it sinks or swims is pointless and wastes everybody's time.
also this

Edited by Npaws, 22 July 2015 - 11:00 PM.


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Posted 22 July 2015 - 11:05 PM

Making an RP and having to submit it first means that you get to improve it. People already spend a long time writing up and imagining RPs. Having to go through the apparently strenuous process of submitting an RP is totally worth it if it means the final product is something people are more likely to show interest in instead of the RP potentially being something that lasts maybe a week.



#8 Blazuhira Miller

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 11:10 PM

Making an RP and having to submit it first means that you get to improve it. People already spend a long time writing up and imagining RPs. Having to go through the apparently strenuous process of submitting an RP is totally worth it if it means the final product is something people are more likely to show interest in instead of the RP potentially being something that lasts maybe a week.

But isn't the improvement pointless given how people showing interest is a complete gamble?



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Posted 22 July 2015 - 11:11 PM

Alrighty. I think going through the arduous process of making and improving an rp to get it approved just to throw it out into the water and see if it sinks or swims is pointless and wastes everybody's time.



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Posted 22 July 2015 - 11:20 PM

But isn't the improvement pointless given how people showing interest is a complete gamble?

Depends if you want to have a few million 2-cent RP's that never get over the two-post limit or a select few that are worth actually looking at.

Removing the system now would just mean you get the same amount of activity on the board, just with more empty and dead RP's.

As for people showing interest, it's honestly not a gamble more than hoping you get actual RPers who stay by it through thick and thin instead of dropping out and never coming back just because something didn't go the way he/she wanted.

And to be brutally honest, if you as a GM can't even stay through your own approval process, don't bother with making an RP. You'll just dissapoint everyone by going missing later on.

Edited by High Orbit, 22 July 2015 - 11:24 PM.


#11 Blazuhira Miller

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 11:32 PM

Depends if you want to have a few million 2-cent RP's that never get over the two-post limit or a select few that are worth actually looking at.

Removing the system now would just mean you get the same amount of activity on the board, just with more empty and dead RP's.

As for people showing interest, it's honestly not a gamble more than hoping you get actual RPers who stay by it through thick and thin instead of dropping out and never coming back just because something didn't go the way he/she wanted.

Having a bunch of dead bad ones with the occasional good RP sounds a lot more fun than a few dead bad ones with the occasional good RP. See, there's the thing - the number of good rps doesn't go down if the system is removed. Sure, you open the floodgates and any old idiot (like me) can post an RP, but in the process you get more good RPs because there are some people who feel like maybe using the submissions thing is wasting time for the mods. Sure, you get more bad RPs, but if you're saying they all die immediately then who cares? Maybe rather than looking at submitted rps the mods can delete dead RPs or move them to a separate subforum and if there's interest people can request they're put back.

 

Maybe I'm rambling but since the submissions thing started I've only set up 2 rps (and one of them was terrible, admittedly) because after the first died I just did not feel like putting the effort in, and by the time I'd done the second one (the terrible one) I felt like I'd just kinda lost my ability to make good RPs from all the time I've spent not posting.

 

And yeah, agreed on the last part, but we'd still have plenty of roleplayers who were willing to stay in roleplays had the reset not happened.



#12 High Orbit

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 11:40 PM

If the mods feel like it is wasting their time, then they shouldn't be mods. Period. They know what they signed up for.

As for RP's submitted? Not counting in game RP's, nearly five out of the last six submitted RPs got through. I don't see any decrease in submission rates, nor culling that wouldn't have happened either way.

And if you say the system drives people away, I'd kindly remind you that posting an RP opens your flaws and your reputation to the whole world instead of just the mod team if you mess it up.

Edited by High Orbit, 22 July 2015 - 11:41 PM.


#13 Blazuhira Miller

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 11:59 PM

If the mods feel like it is wasting their time, then they shouldn't be mods. Period. They know what they signed up for.

As for RP's submitted? Not counting in game RP's, nearly five out of the last six submitted RPs got through. I don't see any decrease in submission rates, nor culling that wouldn't have happened either way.

And if you say the system drives people away, I'd kindly remind you that posting an RP opens your flaws and your reputation to the whole world instead of just the mod team if you mess it up.

Agreed on the first point.

 

I didn't know this, so thanks for telling me, but I remember there being more popping up before submissions were implemented. Maybe it's just my imagination, though.

 

And I saw very little critique of roleplays that weren't completely terrible when there was no submissions - people didn't want to critique it, they either ignored it or joined it. It's just that people who feel they can't get through don't try posting, even though a badly made roleplay was the most popular one on the entire forum.



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Posted 24 July 2015 - 12:38 AM

It's just that people who feel they can't get through don't try posting, even though a badly made roleplay was the most popular one on the entire forum.

That's a good thing then. The idea was to try and enforce some quality standards to improve the roleplay scene. People are always unhappy about being judged.



#15 Npaws

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 12:49 AM

Another thing: none of the RP mods moderate the in game RPs. That's usually just left to volunteers... Is that going to be fixed, or..?

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 03:18 AM

most of the moderators have gotten busy with their lives, and while I do think there is pros and cons to having and removing the application process.

-the biggest con would be the veteran roleplayers would likely scoff at the new roleplayers due to the "quality" and thus judge them.
-another con from this is less roleplays in general and thus less roleplayers.

-a pro however is a higher quality of roleplay, not sure if this outweighs the con however.
-another pro is those that do go through with this system, comes out a better roleplayer in theory.

#17 High Orbit

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 05:50 AM

most of the moderators have gotten busy with their lives, and while I do think there is pros and cons to having and removing the application process.

-the biggest con would be the veteran roleplayers would likely scoff at the new roleplayers due to the "quality" and thus judge them.
-another con from this is less roleplays in general and thus less roleplayers.


I don't really see much of the former happening, but it is true that most of the older RPers will prefer to join an RP by an established RPers compared to a newbie, which is understandable. I don't see how having a judging process changes that, since the moderator panel is not directly involved with forum RP any more than a third party.

For the latter, while it is true that having to submit RP's may drive people away from making them, I don't see how it would affect RPers in general.

Not all RPers may want to lead an RP, and the process ensures new RPers get to join RPs that are led by senior members, or at least by people who understand the time and commitment running an RP takes.

But yes, I do agree the moderation team needs to be as active, if not more active than the average activity of the forum in general to ensure smooth management.

#18 Npaws

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 05:52 AM

But yes, I do agree the moderation team needs to be as active, if not more active than the average activity of the forum in general to ensure smooth management.

And that's really not the case right now.  Is the solution more RP mods?  More admins dedicated to RP?



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Posted 24 July 2015 - 06:03 AM

Speaking of rp systems I think the rp graveyard should be brought back there are plenty of good rps in the past that have eventually died out for example The Long Road To Normal, which has been deleted for inactivity. I feel instead of just deleting dead rps we should take the exemplary inactive ones and have the rp graveyard to help people understand and create better rps by seeing examples of them from the past. Plus who doesn't like a good nostalgia trip, many people including myself would love to read through old rps they were in like the one I previously mentioned but sadly they have the chance of being deleted instead.

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 09:18 AM

Speaking of rp systems I think the rp graveyard should be brought back there are plenty of good rps in the past that have eventually died out for example The Long Road To Normal, which has been deleted for inactivity. I feel instead of just deleting dead rps we should take the exemplary inactive ones and have the rp graveyard to help people understand and create better rps by seeing examples of them from the past. Plus who doesn't like a good nostalgia trip, many people including myself would love to read through old rps they were in like the one I previously mentioned but sadly they have the chance of being deleted instead.

 

Nothing is deleted, I've hidden the dead threads to prevent clutter.



#21 DrGuthrie

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 11:58 AM

Ah so can they be found or looked at?

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 01:23 PM

Not unless you're an admin!



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Posted 25 July 2015 - 05:32 PM

So then my point still stands. Have a place for "Hidden" RPs that show exemplary qualities as examples for future RPs.

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Posted 26 July 2015 - 04:33 PM

exemplary qualities

 

That's a bit controversial and perspectivical.

 

I'm not objecting against accessibility, though.


Edited by Harakhti, 26 July 2015 - 04:35 PM.


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 10:39 PM

Yeah I can understand the controversy on that. Either way I feel like bringing back the rp grave yard might help out a lot of RPers and RP makers while also allowing people to look back on fond memories.

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Posted 11 August 2015 - 01:40 AM

I don't know what to think because it sounds like a good idea but I don't know how it works so I can't really decide


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