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#1 Ratty

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 08:03 PM

This guy REALLY needs a better mic, but its still cool.



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Posted 25 July 2011 - 08:26 PM

Celestia.
DUUUH everyone knows she is our true leader.
Wait I changed my mind!
FLuttershy is with Luna, im with Luna!

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 08:39 PM

do I need to say?

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 08:47 PM

I was a bit surprised at Fluttershy, but I guess it makes sense since she's into chaos.

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 08:50 PM

I was a bit surprised at Fluttershy, but I guess it makes sense since she's into chaos.

Hey why didnt you say who's side you where on?!

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 08:54 PM

ratty is obviously on celestia's side

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 09:39 PM

Well it's kind of obvious whose side I'm on also.

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 01:13 AM

Her wings are so pretty!

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 02:15 AM

I'm on Celestia's side for sure.

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 02:45 AM

unicorns are clearly the master race
wait, why is rarity joining those lunatics? everypony knows equality is a load of horse manure

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 07:23 AM

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 08:46 AM

I dont give a toss about Luna, Im just sticking with Rarity and Fluttershy!

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 09:18 AM

That would explain Rarity, she just went with Fluttershy.

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 06:46 PM

I'm not sure Griffons and Dogs can be treated as equals, considering their more animalistic behavior. It's a recipe for disaster.

On the other hand, the Solar Kingdom wants to keep Ponies as superior race, I could easily see that changing into a communist government, with unicrons being more superior than the other ponies.

Is there a third party?

I'd probably side with the sun though, already established military with superior numbers and technology. I imagine all the innovative unicorns with powerful war spells stayed in Canterlot, Luna's forces being a small revolutionary group.

Plus, they have Rainbow Dash, so they were going to win anyway.

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 07:23 PM

Heh, Celesita is like from animal farm
http://28.media.tumb... ... o1_500.jpg

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 11:14 PM

as much as i know this will start a war im still going to answer. NEW LUNA REPUBLIC

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 11:22 PM

I have to admit Luna's side is looking more appealing to me, but I'd be sad to have to consider Rainbow Dash an enemy of the state.

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 11:31 PM

as much as i know this will start a war im still going to answer. NEW LUNA REPUBLIC

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Only Celestia holds the authority to rule! She has done so for over a millenium, and will continue to do so! What does Luna know of rule? She spent a millenium on the moon, in solitude, without the practice of rule that Celestia has enjoyed.

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 11:56 PM

But with all animals equal, she can setup a senate that can listen to all creatures and rule fairly. She wont have to ride on a chariot being carried by other ponies while telling everyone what to do.

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 12:40 AM

You mean have the same animals that thought slavery and pestering grannies were a good idea rule the world? Highly impractical.
To quote ye philosiraptor: "If the opposite of pro is con, is the opposite of progress, congress?"

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 01:28 AM

There's a reason the animals haven't united on their own already. Ponies are the superior species, and granted by Her Highness, Princess Celestia of Equestria, the right to rule above all other creatures.

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 02:05 AM

I've brought in expert to show why Celestia's side is clearly superior to Luna's, you can begin Fact Sphere.
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Fact: Ponies are superior to all other species including the mythical human race.
Fact: Twilight Sparkle, Rainbow Dash, and Pinkie Pie are the 3 best ponies.
Fact: Luna's promises of equality are simply lies used to get the lesser races on her side, she will betray and enslave them if she manages to usurp Princess Celestia.
Fact: Diamond Dogs view themselves as superior to ponies evidenced by their attempts to enslave them for gem finding and for gem cart pulling. This attitude clearly shows they will also likely betray and enslave Equestria if they are given any sort of authority.
Fact: Princess Celestia has far more governing experience in the modern era she's been governing for a 1000 years, Luna's thoughts on government are 1000 years old and clearly out of date.
Fact: The Fact Sphere is more handsome, and more intelligent then the Space Sphere that supports Princess Luna.

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 07:58 AM

Celestia runs things just fine. CELESTIAL EMPIRE.

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 03:43 AM

I needn't explain where my loyalties lie in this inevitable struggle. but i ask you my fellow ponies, is Celestia truly the benign ruler that she would make herself out to be? And is Equestria truly the paradise that she would have us all believe?

I say Neigh.
Consider the plight of ponyville for example. Despite being only a few short hours away from the royal capital on hoof, it is neglected and subjected to a relentless parade of disasters. Disasters which the princess makes no effort to protect her "beloved" citizens from.

City is attacked by an ursa minor, Celestia does nothing.
Ponyville is consumed by a plague of parasprites, Celestia comes to late to save the town, and leaves without even realizing the city has been destroyed.
A Dragon takes up roost near the town and begins to affect the air quality of a considerable portion of equestria. Celestia in response sends a team of six teenage filly's to confront the adult dragon, armed with apples and a rubber chicken.
A vicious and carnivorous Hydra stalks the swamp near ponyville, nearly consuming half the elements of harmony, Celestia does nothing
The everfree forest sprawls uncontrolled against the borders of ponyville, Celestia again does nothing. Despite clearly having the capability to bring the area under her command, as it undoubtedly was when her and Luna held court in their Castle in the heart of the forest.

Consider instead my little ponies, the opportunity for change and prosperity that her far more benevolant and beautiful sister presents. I encourage you not to believe the propaganda and obfuscation of history that Celestia has engaged in for the last millennium. Remember, the victor's write the history books. We d not know the true historical account of the circumstances that led one sister to imprison the other for a thousand years. We do know that she lacked the power to accomplish this feat on her own, and instead had to rely on dangerous and arcane magic in the barely understood elements of harmony. Elements which despite their apelation of "harmony" have become fractured and broken in this civil war.

So where has Celestia's "benevolent" reign led us?
To a kingdom beset with natural disasters which Celestia makes no effort to impede.
To a kingdom in which intelligent nonpony creatures are treated with contempt. Some foreced to eek out a living on the margins of society (diamond dogs) others being outright enslaved (cows)
To a kingdom where the royal gaurd and army live only to serve and protect the eternal monarch, but do nothing to protect the common ponies of Equestria.

So my little ponies ask yourself "could Luna do any worse?"

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 03:49 AM

Colorful prose is fine, but let's deal with the hard facts of the matter:

Her Highness and Rightful Ruler, Princess Celestia, ruled Equestria for 1,000 years without any talk of insurgency.

"Princess" Luna returns and the very first thing she does is attempt to cast the world into eternal night.

The facts speak for themselves.

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 07:09 AM

Colorful prose is fine, but let's deal with the hard facts of the matter:

"Princess" Luna returns and the very first thing she does is attempt to cast the world into eternal night.

The facts speak for themselves.



because luna was possesed according to the creator of the show http://images3.wikia... ... Xeh5kn.png

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 08:09 AM

I don't care if she was hopped up on goofy juice, the bitch tried to overthrow our High Princess and Rightful Ruler Princess Celestia. Intentions don't matter, actions do.

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 01:23 PM

Fact: Ponies are superior to all other species including the mythical human race.
Fact: Twilight Sparkle, Rainbow Dash, and Pinkie Pie are the 3 best ponies.
Fact: Luna's promises of equality are simply lies used to get the lesser races on her side, she will betray and enslave them if she manages to usurp Princess Celestia.
Fact: Diamond Dogs view themselves as superior to ponies evidenced by their attempts to enslave them for gem finding and for gem cart pulling. This attitude clearly shows they will also likely betray and enslave Equestria if they are given any sort of authority.
Fact: Princess Celestia has far more governing experience in the modern era she's been governing for a 1000 years, Luna's thoughts on government are 1000 years old and clearly out of date.
Fact: The Fact Sphere is more handsome, and more intelligent then the Space Sphere that supports Princess Luna.

LUNAR AIRFORCE REPORTING IN!
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Posted 29 July 2011 - 02:57 PM

Heh, Celesita is like from animal farm
http://28.media.tumb... ... o1_500.jpg

OH JEBUS NO!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT THAT BOOK/MOVIE HELL NO!!!! THAT NEEDS TO BE BURNED!

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 08:50 PM

Why would you destroy such a brilliant piece of propagandus?

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 10:02 PM

I've brought in expert to show why Celestia's side is clearly superior to Luna's, you can begin Fact Sphere.
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I'd just like to remind everyone, this is the corrupted AI system that spewed out such "reliable and interesting" facts such as "12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12" and "pens pens pens pens pens pens pens pens".

just sayin.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 09:58 AM

Rightous Princess Luna, you have my undead armies, as well as I, at your disposal.

Celestia's tyrannical leadership can no longer be left undisputed.
The Lunar Republic shall rise!

To Do:
1. Finish LRSP HQ
2. Boost propaganda time on LunaTalk Radio.
3. Aquire undead army.
4.Create redstone doom laser. (May take some tinkering.)
5.Arm aforementioned undead army.
6. Charge said laser.
7. Launch an invasion force on PonyVille
8.Fire doom laser at Canterlot.
9.???
10. PROFIT!!!

Preparations on steps 1-4 are underway!

For the Princess!
For Great Justice!
For Equestria!

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 05:07 PM

I needn't explain where my loyalties lie in this inevitable struggle. but i ask you my fellow ponies, is Celestia truly the benign ruler that she would make herself out to be? And is Equestria truly the paradise that she would have us all believe?

I say Neigh.
Consider the plight of ponyville for example. Despite being only a few short hours away from the royal capital on hoof, it is neglected and subjected to a relentless parade of disasters. Disasters which the princess makes no effort to protect her "beloved" citizens from.

City is attacked by an ursa minor, Celestia does nothing.
Ponyville is consumed by a plague of parasprites, Celestia comes to late to save the town, and leaves without even realizing the city has been destroyed.
A Dragon takes up roost near the town and begins to affect the air quality of a considerable portion of equestria. Celestia in response sends a team of six teenage filly's to confront the adult dragon, armed with apples and a rubber chicken.
A vicious and carnivorous Hydra stalks the swamp near ponyville, nearly consuming half the elements of harmony, Celestia does nothing
The everfree forest sprawls uncontrolled against the borders of ponyville, Celestia again does nothing. Despite clearly having the capability to bring the area under her command, as it undoubtedly was when her and Luna held court in their Castle in the heart of the forest.

Consider instead my little ponies, the opportunity for change and prosperity that her far more benevolant and beautiful sister presents. I encourage you not to believe the propaganda and obfuscation of history that Celestia has engaged in for the last millennium. Remember, the victor's write the history books. We d not know the true historical account of the circumstances that led one sister to imprison the other for a thousand years. We do know that she lacked the power to accomplish this feat on her own, and instead had to rely on dangerous and arcane magic in the barely understood elements of harmony. Elements which despite their apelation of "harmony" have become fractured and broken in this civil war.

So where has Celestia's "benevolent" reign led us?
To a kingdom beset with natural disasters which Celestia makes no effort to impede.
To a kingdom in which intelligent nonpony creatures are treated with contempt. Some foreced to eek out a living on the margins of society (diamond dogs) others being outright enslaved (cows)
To a kingdom where the royal gaurd and army live only to serve and protect the eternal monarch, but do nothing to protect the common ponies of Equestria.

So my little ponies ask yourself "could Luna do any worse?"


You know what all of these "natural" disasters you listed all have in common, a certain little pony named Fluttershy or should I say Flutterby! You used her to cause all of these disasters and then tried to blame it on Celestia! When Celestia sent the six teenage fillies, who also just happen to REPRESENT THE ELEMENTS OF HARMONY AND HAVE DEFEATED NIGHTMARE AKA LUNA, to deal with the dragon who was trying slow them down and hold them up? Your spy Flutterby! Only when she let the disaster and situation with the dragon get desperate enough to make Celestia look foolish for sending them and the smoke to spread where all of Equestria could see and then she "stopped" the dragon and saved her "friends". What everypony doesn't know is the dragon was working with Luna the whole time and it was all an act to make Celestia look bad. Oh and before you say, "but Fluttershy wasn't around when the Ursa Minor attacked!" well her absence during the attack makes it even more suspicious, in fact thanks to the work of our top agent Pinkie Pie who was following her while she was away from ponyville we now have an idea on what really happened that night. What Luna and most ponies will tell you is that Snipps and Snails went to go look for an Ursa Major to have Trixie vanquish so they could be impressed and amazed, however what they really did was go meet their fellow spy flutterby who told them where to find an Ursa Minor they could use to create chaos in Ponyville with, the Trixie thing was just a front! I would also like to point out that this incident happened during the NIGHT which is LUNA'S TIME TO RULE. When the hydra showed up at Froggy Bottom Bog who was there? That's right my dear little ponies, it was Flutterby, she wasn't there to move frogs she was there to meet Luna's hydra and take it to attack ponyville, we're lucky that my top agent Pinkie Pie's secret hydra alarm in the bog went off, (those Pinkie senses she gets are really codes that we send her by making her muscles twitch and spasm through her special spy implants) or ponyville might have been in great peril due to Luna's agent of chaos. Last but not least I remind you who first brought the Parasprites to town? Flutterby again! And who rescued you from the disaster she caused, our top agent Pinkie Pie.

So you see my little ponies Luna and Flutterby are the real enemies here, they are both traitors and liars!
Luna would let Diamond Dogs, those foul smelling pony hating slavers roam freely in our beloved and beautiful Equestria.
Luna would destroy the Ponyville just to make Celestia look bad.

My little ponies I ask you, who is the real tyrant? A Princess who has only tried to what's best for all ponies and not get heavily into their lives with a huge presence of royal guards, or a "Princess" whose first act upon returning from a 1000 year exile is to try and make an eternal night?

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 06:24 PM

So you see my little ponies Luna and Flutterby are the real enemies here, they are both traitors and liars!
Luna would let Diamond Dogs, those foul smelling pony hating slavers roam freely in our beloved and beautiful Equestria.
Luna would destroy the Ponyville just to make Celestia look bad.

My little ponies I ask you, who is the real tyrant? A Princess who has only tried to what's best for all ponies and not get heavily into their lives with a huge presence of royal guards, or a "Princess" whose first act upon returning from a 1000 year exile is to try and make an eternal night?


oh. my. gods.

You're right! Fluttershy has been the real enemy all along! Come all! Let's take up arms against this menace! We should burn her house, kill her pets, raid her belongings! Make her feel the wrath of-

ALufiFp2Zvk

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I'm sorry, but I can't hate that.

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 09:17 AM

I have a question... Is the Lunar republic or whatever related to our way of government(the republicans[where they treat everyone the same] and then the Democratic[Have a strict "pony" policy{sorry for the confusing brackets}])?

P.S. If you can understand all of the bracets and what I'm saying, I'll give you props... That's hard to understand...

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 04:57 PM

Wut?
Though I am servant to the Lunar Republic, I also consider myself Democrat.

I'm pretty sure there is no political statements intended in there, Arspar. >_>

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 06:06 PM

yeah, you may need to explain that further. All the brackets are confusing.

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 01:47 PM

I, as a Celestial Being not of Equestria, take no side.
You Lunar Republicans and Solar Imperialists bicker and go on to wage a war even... As a Higher being, it sickens me that a culture, claiming to have found the enlightenment of true peace, would go in such a vile direction. I, and my brethren throughout the cosmos pity you mortals for these trifles...

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 03:50 AM

I, as a Celestial Being not of Equestria, take no side.
You Lunar Republicans and Solar Imperialists bicker and go on to wage a war even... As a Higher being, it sickens me that a culture, claiming to have found the enlightenment of true peace, would go in such a vile direction. I, and my brethren throughout the cosmos pity you mortals for these trifles...


=P
How dare you, sir!
*Brick'd*

Haha! Take THAT!

I fight not for a new order, not a faction or belief.

I fight for ~Luna~

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 03:08 PM

I have a question... Is the Lunar republic or whatever related to our way of government(the republicans[where they treat everyone the same] and then the Democratic[Have a strict "pony" policy{sorry for the confusing brackets}])?

P.S. If you can understand all of the bracets and what I'm saying, I'll give you props... That's hard to understand...

um It represents Luna, In a fan war, for fun. None of this means anything about real life.

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 04:31 AM

I choose lunar republic

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 05:40 AM

My initial reaction to this choice was just a series of grunts, grones, gasps, and "Doh's"

But I suppose will side with Luna....im sorry RD.

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 07:12 AM

Our Empire is growing...

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 06:56 PM

I'm sticking with Rainbow Dash. The side she's on is always 20% cooler than the other side.
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Posted 20 September 2011 - 07:39 PM

1) Luna was never sent to the moon. They don't have that fact right. What else are they saying that could be wrong, or even a lie?!
2) Everyone already lives in harmony, but they just live at different locations. No one knows if that is by choice or not.

Choosing a side is as pointless as wishing you were either made completely of meat, or turned into a fudge-cicle. While both have their advantages, they also have severe consequences for choosing one or the other. Unfortunately, the bad things that can and will happen from choosing a side heavily outweigh the positive. With "The Solar Kingdom", there is no poverty, no crime, no discrimination, and the healthcare is more effective then it will ever need to be. The schools are functioning at maximum efficiency, and the youth is only getting smarter. Who knows what will change if we switched the form of government to "The Lunar Republic's" way of running it all.

Why fix what isn't broken? The world is in harmony, no one ever runs out of resources, and people look out for one another. Sure, while some griffons may think that griffons are better flyers then the Pegasi, it doesn't matter as long as in the end they can both agree that it's a wonderful day for flying.

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 08:12 PM

I needn't explain where my loyalties lie in this inevitable struggle. but i ask you my fellow ponies, is Celestia truly the benign ruler that she would make herself out to be? And is Equestria truly the paradise that she would have us all believe?

I say Neigh.
Consider the plight of ponyville for example. Despite being only a few short hours away from the royal capital on hoof, it is neglected and subjected to a relentless parade of disasters. Disasters which the princess makes no effort to protect her "beloved" citizens from.

City is attacked by an ursa minor, Celestia does nothing.
Ponyville is consumed by a plague of parasprites, Celestia comes to late to save the town, and leaves without even realizing the city has been destroyed.
A Dragon takes up roost near the town and begins to affect the air quality of a considerable portion of equestria. Celestia in response sends a team of six teenage filly's to confront the adult dragon, armed with apples and a rubber chicken.
A vicious and carnivorous Hydra stalks the swamp near ponyville, nearly consuming half the elements of harmony, Celestia does nothing
The everfree forest sprawls uncontrolled against the borders of ponyville, Celestia again does nothing. Despite clearly having the capability to bring the area under her command, as it undoubtedly was when her and Luna held court in their Castle in the heart of the forest.

Consider instead my little ponies, the opportunity for change and prosperity that her far more benevolant and beautiful sister presents. I encourage you not to believe the propaganda and obfuscation of history that Celestia has engaged in for the last millennium. Remember, the victor's write the history books. We d not know the true historical account of the circumstances that led one sister to imprison the other for a thousand years. We do know that she lacked the power to accomplish this feat on her own, and instead had to rely on dangerous and arcane magic in the barely understood elements of harmony. Elements which despite their apelation of "harmony" have become fractured and broken in this civil war.

So where has Celestia's "benevolent" reign led us?
To a kingdom beset with natural disasters which Celestia makes no effort to impede.
To a kingdom in which intelligent nonpony creatures are treated with contempt. Some foreced to eek out a living on the margins of society (diamond dogs) others being outright enslaved (cows)
To a kingdom where the royal gaurd and army live only to serve and protect the eternal monarch, but do nothing to protect the common ponies of Equestria.

So my little ponies ask yourself "could Luna do any worse?"


1) The Ursa Minor attacked at night, while Celestia was sleeping. She needs to sleep if she is preform her duty.
2) She wasn't late, she didn't even reach the town, and she was going to help Fillydelphia - presumably filled with fillies. You know, the CHILDREN?!
3) A. Celestia needs to stay in the kingdom to preform duties.
B. Who said they're all teenagers? Rarity owns her own business, so she has to be at least 24ish in pony years; same with Applejack.
C. While there may have been better qualified ponies to send on such a job, only those six sent can harness the power of friendship to make the dragon leave on IT'S OWN VOLITION.
4) They made is back safe and sound, didn't they? Maybe after that indecent, Celestia ordered the Hydra to be killed... with friendship.
5) They moved to a more scenic location, big deal. The location makes it easy for BOTH of them to do their jobs. About the forest sprawling "out of control", the wood for tables, fires, houses, lumber and other items don't materialist from thin air. You get that from trees. There is a reason the forest is there.

"We d not know the true historical account of the circumstances that led one sister to imprison the other for a thousand years." Yes, you're right. We don't. But, at this point, does it really matter? Luna is younger then Celestia, anyway. This means she doesn't have the same amount of experience that Celestia has. Also, Luna was be away from everyone in the universe for one thousand years. This means she may not know what is and isn't sociably acceptable anymore.

"Elements which despite their apelation of "harmony" have become fractured and broken in this civil war." A war to end wars. How ironic. Do you care to know the most funny part of that? Before this civil war, there were none. No wars. People wanting to change the form of government to be run by Luna STARTED THE CIVIL WAR we're in now in order to PREVENT FUTURE WARS. You started a war, so that you could stop wars.

"Some foreced to eek out a living on the margins of society (diamond dogs)..." They're down there by choice. Many go to the wasteland in search of gems, hoping to hit it big and instantly become rich.

"...others being outright enslaved (cows)..." You do know that cows not only need to graze and be milked, but love it, right?

So, to answer your question, Yes. Luna could do worse." Equestria is working fine with Celestia in charge. There is no reason to switch the form of government at this time.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 04:54 PM

The current status quo in Equestria is not necessarily a bad thing. Every pony in Equestria I've seen so far seems to be well-fed, with a smile on his or her face. The main reason for a crumbling Monarchy or rebellion is social unrest. Celestia has obviously done a great job ruling Equestria if she's had a thousand years without (ursa?) major uprisings.

History lesson!
The sun-king (le Roi-soleil), Louis XIV of France, got his nickname from his subjects, because he was a good ruler.
He established a strong economy and good educational facilities, and under his rule no major famines happened. The people of France were happy with the monarchy and nobility at this point.

Remember what happened in 1789: Right. The French Revolution. The people rose up against Louis XVI. He let the national debt rise too high, and most of the treasury was being spent on loans and repayments. The people were hungry, which caused great unrest and unhappiness ("If they don't have bread, why don't they eat cake?" -Marie Antoinette). The nobility however were untouched by the famine or national debt. During the revolution about 80% of them were guillotined.
Hunger and unfair taxes lead to rebellion.
The same thing happened over and over in history: the Dutch rebellion of 1568 against the king of Spain (yes, we were the first to do this, thank you very much), the communist revolution of 1916 in Russia against the Tsar, The Nazi overtake of Germany in 1933 (although this was a democratic process), etc.
Many of these rebellions eventually lead to a totalitarian Regime, some loved more than others. Napoleon took control of France and crowned himself Emperor, basically restoring Monarchy. The communist party in Russia eventually took control of over half of Europe, and millions of people were suppressed. Nazi Germany doesn't need an explanation.

Rebellion isn't necessarily a good thing, as long as there is no real need to break the status quo.

Should Celestia mess up, and plunge Equestria into hunger or supression, then yes, there would be a good reason for revolution. As it stands however, most ponies seem happy.
I don't think Luna could get enough support from the Equestrian populace, which is the first thing you need to even start a rebellion.

I side with Celestia, but Luna is still the cutest.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 09:40 PM

Im with Celestia. She has done a great job keeping everything in order, no uprises or revolts against her. Though Luna would make a good political leader, Celestia fits best in the role.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 11:50 PM

Damnit, Luna is my favorite character.
But I have to join Trollestia, just because Pinkie Pie is there...
(I wish there was some other group that was just based on peace)

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 12:43 AM

Oh hey, have a third party.
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The Equestrian Unity Collective seems to be a pre-war group suggesting the two sisters rule together, and avoid a violent conflict.

Obviously, like any sensible pony, I'm with these guys. Battles between gods are never pretty. Still, If war does break out, than I'm still loyal to the Solar Empire.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 08:50 AM

Oh hey, have a third party.
The Equestrian Unity Collective seems to be a pre-war group suggesting the two sisters rule together, and avoid a violent conflict.

Obviously, like any sensible pony, I'm with these guys. Battles between gods are never pretty. Still, If war does break out, than I'm still loyal to the Solar Empire.

This is something similar, lead by Fluttershy. I might actually side with these guys.
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Posted 22 September 2011 - 09:52 AM

Oh hey, have a third party.
The Equestrian Unity Collective seems to be a pre-war group suggesting the two sisters rule together, and avoid a violent conflict.

Obviously, like any sensible pony, I'm with these guys. Battles between gods are never pretty. Still, If war does break out, than I'm still loyal to the Solar Empire.


Aw yeah, I'm joining these guys then! Wars get you no where.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 09:54 AM

This is something similar, lead by Fluttershy. I might actually side with these guys.

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Or join these guys, any that ain't violent will do.

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 07:06 AM

I would side with Celestia. To be honest she's a bit of a tyrant, but a lot less murderous and opulant than most european kings were.

The other option being Luna, who is a child who spent the last thousand years under the control of an evil force, trapped in solitary confinement with no contact with any other living being. She's probably seriously unbalanced right now, and not fit to rule herself let alone a large kingdom wherein even the most average of citizens may weild dangerous amounts of magic.

Celestia would win anyway. Even without the elements all together, the only reason Luna harbored so much power originally was because she was under the grip of Nightmare Moon. Without that outside power, she would be like an ant beneath Celestia's hoof.

And honestly, what's Fluttershy's movement going to do? Hunger strike? This isn't a political debate, this is a contest for a holy monarchal crown. It would never end with a handshake and a signature, and the godlike status of the two in question would only make the violence break out sooner.

Makes me wonder though. With the elements split they cannot be used, and in the end it may be technological prowess that wins the day, not pure magic. Gives industrious earth ponies more of a role in war, don't you think?

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 03:38 PM

Got to go for Luna...

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:22 PM

New lunar republic for FTW

there is now an rp for this if anypony is interested

FOR THE REPUBLIC

#57 Tommiepony

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 07:07 PM

FOR THE LUNAR REPUBLIC.

#58 Guardian Selene

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 07:48 PM

The lines are being drawn, pick your side and prepare to fight (RP wise). Join the fight here: http://www.brohoof.c...c-registration/

In these trouble times, we need ponies to help bring us together and uphold our ways from these rebels. Help us uphold the Solar Empire Kingdom. For the glory of Celestia and for the return of peace and harmony.

We have seen the current state of Equestria, open your eyes everypony. Celestia has become the thing she swore to defeat. She will bring ruin to us all. Help save Equestria, join the New Lunar Republic.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 07:50 PM

Shits goin' down!

I really think this entire debate is kinda stupid though, I'll be joining that RP though.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 09:39 PM

Solar empire. I will see you in that RP.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 09:41 PM

Solar empire. I will see you in that RP.

Hell yeah, two solar empire troops!

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 10:12 PM

Yeah, I saw the RP a while ago but was hesitant to sign up due to other RPs. Since Noteworthy has been relatively quiet, time has opened up for another RP.

#63 Arella17

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 10:14 PM

I would side with Luna...the moon is a symbol of fertility and the progession of womanhood...I'm more in tune with the moon than the sun.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 10:19 PM

Where did all this civil war stuff even come from? I see a lot of it mentioned all over the place and never really understood why.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 10:44 PM

Where did all this civil war stuff even come from? I see a lot of it mentioned all over the place and never really understood why.


Well it goes back to the first two episodes of season 1. The way people took to Luna's story, because she went threw a lot and was severally punished by Celestia. Luna is revealed to be a child at the end of the second episode. Psychologically most people want to protect a child and the fact that we don't see Luna until season two. People came up with a lot of conclusions, and the thought of Luna being bitter because she was sent to live on the moon for a thousand years. That might be one of the reasons that there is anger towards Celestia. I could go on with what theories about where this idea of conflict arose, but I don't want to bore peeps.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 11:21 PM

I understand the tension between the two characters, but I just don't understand where the idea of a civil war came from, ESPECIALLY if Luna is a child.

#67 Night_Breeze

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 11:23 PM

LUNA4EVER

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#68 Vargouille

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 11:41 PM

Welp, Rarity and Applejack are on Luna's side... Sorry my grand goddess.

Edited by Vargouille, 27 July 2012 - 11:41 PM.


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Posted 28 July 2012 - 01:15 AM

I'll side with the Lunar Republic.

Fact: The Fact Sphere is more handsome, and more intelligent then the Space Sphere that supports Princess Luna.

Well if the Space Sphere went with Luna, I'm definitely in!

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This sums up my thoughts exactly.

#70 Caventh

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 04:19 PM

Can't we just get beyond Thunderdome?

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 04:50 PM

Hmmm, I'm a bit iffy about choosing sides here. The thing with civil wars is that usually no one wins. Whatever side you end up joining, The winners are likely to break up and fight for power amongst themselves. Neither side so far has a pony suited for war-time planning, I'm not so sure twilight would help, she organises. Sure, Luna and Celestia have some solid followers, but with each after their own agenda (presumably), After the war ends, they will each want theirs to come to fruition, disregarding others in the process, and restarting the war.

TL;DR- I'm not choosing a side, go knock yourselves out!

#72 Philly

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 02:43 PM

I would go with Celestia, but my heart belongs to Fluttershy.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 03:59 PM

Well f***ittydoodah!

I knew this would sprout up her sooner or later.

I would take the time to study the nature and intents of these conflicted sisters and make a proper decision on whom to ally with but, alas, I am not a clever man pony.

So instead I shall ignore your logic and substitute my own!

The first thing I thought of would be to just go with my favourite pony.
Rainbow Dash is my favourite pony, she went with Celestia. Flutter shy is my other favourite pony, but she went with Lunar. So there goes the idea of 'following favourites'.

The next thing that came to mind was:
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But I fear this situation has already developed beyond the point of repair.

So, since I am unable to come to a decision on which side to pledge my allegiance to I have decided to hide away in the Ever Free Forest and live in a small hide-away that I previously constructed for such an event as this. Since nopony 'owns' the forest I feel I will be safe from open war and the most I'll have to worry about is food and the odd Cockatrice/Drake/Hydra/Chimera/Dragon/Rogue Griffon/etc.

OR. I could just completely ignore the whole thing since it's just a TV show :D

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 06:34 PM

I am impartial, or I just team up with lyra, bon bon and derpy. I dont need royal wars!

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 02:33 PM

Celestia. Believe it or not, I like her better than Luna.

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 06:15 PM

I would sit on the sidelines with discord and watch the chaos unfold between the factions.

But if i HAVE to pick a side, it would be the Lunar Republic.

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 08:39 PM

I am on the side of Truth, Justice and free Healthcare.

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 08:57 PM

What dream you living in

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 09:11 PM

Well seeing as how you live on the

What dream you living in


No dream my fickle flaming foe, but the glorious realm of the True North.

Though living on the moon I can see how you would be out of touch.

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 10:01 PM

Solar kingdom fo sho

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 12:39 AM

I really dont get why everyone likes Luna so much. My god guys, she's just the CO-PRINCESS. As mentioned before, she's been gone for 1000 years and clearly dosent understand her citizens' modernization. Therefore, she would not make as good a ruler. She may be "cute" and all, but that dosent cut it for a ruler.

Diu Solis!

#82 DingusMcgee

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 12:57 AM

Found Introduction Video for both sides.



Also found a nice video. :D



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Posted 31 July 2012 - 01:09 AM

And you know what? I will abandon The Solar Empire. New Luna Republic for me!


I prowl in through the nights,


Searching for my given rights,


I am oppressed!


In her moonlight,


I no longer feel spite,


Death to the Shining Tyrant!


We storm the castle,


We slay her in slumber,


The Lunar Republic Rises!



For Luna!



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Posted 31 July 2012 - 01:12 AM

myself
avatarnick96
harrybeast16
Lurac
GodofZelda
Applejoe88
and Waffels all join the lunar military!

#85 Rhythmition

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 01:23 AM

COLT is a double agent

besides everypony knows I lead logistics for the NLR

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 01:23 AM

And you know what? I will abandon The Solar Empire. New Luna Republic for me!


I prowl in through the nights,


Searching for my given rights,


I am oppressed!


In her moonlight,


I no longer feel spite,


Death to the Shining Tyrant!


We storm the castle,


We slay her in slumber,


The Lunar Republic Rises!



For Luna!



Bandwagon hopper! Luna wouldn't want to slay her sister. Did Celestia slay her when she transformed into nightmare moon?

#87 DingusMcgee

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 01:34 AM

Bandwagon hopper! Luna wouldn't want to slay her sister. Did Celestia slay her when she transformed into nightmare moon?

I didn't really write it. Just mostly a quote I found.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 01:37 AM

We shine in the sun

Our cause is true

Our peace will be won

Well march on through

Made that up in 5 seconds, I suck at poems XD

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 01:38 AM

Your not the only one

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 02:32 AM

We shine in the sun

Our cause is true

Our peace will be won

Well march on through

With our armies we will ride

With our swords and axes by our side

The sun will rise;

The moon will fall

To reveal the true order.

Peace and tranquility apparent to all.

-Golfmann14
Adding on to your poem ^^

Edited by Golfmann14, 31 July 2012 - 02:33 AM.


#91 Grandpa Nurgle

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 03:27 AM

Lunar Republic

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 11:20 AM

Stop! We must stop fighing amongst ourselves and bring about our own destruction!

Think beyond your petty faction struggles: Who would most benefit from a war between our ruling deities? Who would most benefit from the destruction of lives as brother is pitted against brother, families forced to fight for their own causes?

Thats right, this is the work of none other than treacherous diamond dog agents, seeking to cause division and dissent amongst our ranks!

Bretheren! We must join arms and fight together! All hail the Equestrian Unity Collective! Long live the Princesses!

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 11:51 AM

I like Luna better, but she would be a sucky ruler, I have not seen any sign of Celestia being a tyrant that Luna has not done, most of them don't even apply anyway!

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 01:58 PM

Lunar Republic

The tyrant celestia will be crushed and the Lunar Repubic will be victorious!

#95 Rhythmition

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 02:29 PM

Stop! We must stop fighing amongst ourselves and bring about our own destruction!

Think beyond your petty faction struggles: Who would most benefit from a war between our ruling deities? Who would most benefit from the destruction of lives as brother is pitted against brother, families forced to fight for their own causes?

Thats right, this is the work of none other than treacherous diamond dog agents, seeking to cause division and dissent amongst our ranks!

Bretheren! We must join arms and fight together! All hail the Equestrian Unity Collective! Long live the Princesses!


no actually that would be me that brought this back to popularity on the forums everything was peaceful before I got here.

#96 Blazuhira Miller

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 02:29 PM

The tyrant celestia will be crushed and the Lunar Repubic will be victorious!

What tyrant? Are you in an alternate dimension where Celestia is a tyrant?

#97 Rhythmition

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 02:42 PM

yes yes I am

#98 Blazuhira Miller

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 02:54 PM

yes yes I am

Well alright then, tell me something she's done that is tyrannical.

#99 Rhythmition

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 03:19 PM

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I'm sorry that's classified If I told you then It would rip a hole in space time destroying everything

#100 Blazuhira Miller

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 03:22 PM

You don't have a reason. That means the entire lunar republic is false.


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