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#1 funkyhoboman

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Posted 27 November 2011 - 11:32 PM

Soon we'll do reserved slots or something, its just not as fun with this many people, I'll limit us to about 40 or so, to give the admins some stress relief.


I agree that it has gotten less fun with so many people. The three weeks I've been here, I have noticed that pretty much everyone on the server was cool with everyone else, and that it was laid back to a point where it felt like a big family. The last two days though have been insane and the constant chatspam of questions that are answered in the forums and the constant people coming and going have ruined that feeling, which was the main reason I liked the server so much. I feel like it's gone from a friendly environment to all business.

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Posted 27 November 2011 - 11:38 PM

I agree its been stressful and not as fun, I'm considering it a promotion, and my hope is to get some new good people out of it, then we'll back back to normal levels plus a few good people that will stay.

#3 imnotparanoid

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 05:00 PM

Why is there a sudden rush of players anyway?
Did another server close or something?

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 05:08 PM

Why is there a sudden rush of players anyway?
Did another server close or something?

Two days ago, the Yogscast featured Mine Little Pony, where Verdana features us, thereby connecting us to high-voltage fame.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 05:11 PM

So basically... IM FAMOUS!

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 05:17 PM

I would say 'infamous'. :D

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 05:22 PM

Reserved slots? You guys are awesome, people were bound to flock eventually, its simply a matter of managment. Perhaps a solution could be splitting Brohoof into servers to disperse the population into while maintaining one forum? A populated server doesnt have to mean a less communal one.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 05:31 PM

Reserved slots? You guys are awesome, people were bound to flock eventually, its simply a matter of managment. Perhaps a solution could be splitting Brohoof into servers to disperse the population into while maintaining one forum? A populated server doesnt have to mean a less communal one.

That might make rattys PC crying face, thats how the internet works right?

I would say 'infamous'. :D

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THE FAME HAS BEEN DOUBLED

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 05:50 PM

i think its not really aided the server that so many people join, old players get frustrated, the server lags and adding to that turning server from 1.8 to 1.0.0 adds pressure on the admins, its no good. i hope at least bukkit hurry's up soon.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 06:08 PM

I hope this Yog-wave stop soon. I can't join because the server is full, even though i am in the middle of practicing for my second submission.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 06:12 PM

as someone said above it should be a rule that some people have priorities. but that would be a bit rude. you will just have to wait i guess

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 06:13 PM

the server being so full also adds to the difficulty of starting and or resuming rp's with the huge amount of people entering and leaving clogging the chat... it makes things difficult. also with the influx of greymanes it makes private messaging difficult seeing as the message tag (to/from name) is also grey our eyes pass over it thinking its another greymane asking another dumb question or begging for buildrights. but yeah... i ruely and truly like the popularity but i miss our quaint little family ive grown into.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 06:21 PM

i think its not really aided the server that so many people join, old players get frustrated, the server lags and adding to that turning server from 1.8 to 1.0.0 adds pressure on the admins, its no good. i hope at least bukkit hurry's up soon.

[*:1ekf0s3k]I know I'm not frustrated by an influx of new members, especially since all the new people who have joined are bronies. I think the more people, the better.
[*:1ekf0s3k]I haven't noticed any lag as a result of loads of people. I wasn't online when there were 80 people on, but it didn't affect building at all.
[*:1ekf0s3k]The server is already at 1.0, there's no worry about that.Please stop making assumptions like this and being all "I want the old server back :'(" conservative, it makes new people feel like they've done something wrong by joining and the rest of us look bad.

#14 imnotparanoid

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 06:30 PM

snap

-I like new people, its just having to many can often be bad (I dont think I have found a server that has been good with more than bout 30 people on average although thats proberly just because it was a bad server :3)
-I havent been able to connect, but thats my fault for having a bad internet!
-uuuuuh nothing here

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 06:41 PM

Reserved slots? You guys are awesome, people were bound to flock eventually, its simply a matter of managment. Perhaps a solution could be splitting Brohoof into servers to disperse the population into while maintaining one forum? A populated server doesnt have to mean a less communal one.


we have reserved slots? i suppose thats why i was able to log in without a problem when the server said 40/40 i very much appreciate the reserved spot. it makes me happy knowing i can get in and be with all of ya.
oh... and i have a question... i seem to have lost my cloudhome when we ported over to 1.0. it was a work in progress but yeah. just wondering if you saved and deleted some houses to get cloudsdale to fit.
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nevermind... the server is now kicking me due to fullness. im now a sad pony. i must have earlier have squeezed in a slot just as someone was leaving.

#16 imnotparanoid

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 07:22 PM

If there where slots would it be like admins or people wh odonate or something?
Does ratty do donations? I doubt it he isnt whiney enough to want money (no offence if you DO do them :3)

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 07:40 PM

I too am curious as to how this whitelist is going to work.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 07:46 PM

I think its really fine where it is. Trolls will increase but they get hit with a ban hammer eventually. Having some organization will cause more stress on admins i'd think because more rules=more work from admins. All in all, population will decrase soon and the past will be back, probably better with more "trustworthy" (only term i can think of) members to the community

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 07:53 PM

Does Ratty host the server from his computer?
Im an admin on another popular server, we run about 280+ people at a time across 3 servers. We pay a company to host for us (it is relatively cheap) and run completely on donations. All the while we have a cohesive and active community. Its not impossible to adapt to a growing population while still maintaining unity, it just requires organization.

We wouldnt have to worry about the population cap and a flooded chat.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 08:08 PM

1. It was broken until an hour ago, it was acting like a server with 40 slots and would just say full for everyone. But now it will allow anyone that is not a grey name in. If that ends up not being effective, I'll make it so white names aren't able to join either. I just need to keep the player count lower to give us some stress relief, anyone who was on yesterday knows the server was able to handle 90 players just fine, but it just wasn't that fun.

2. For people that are RPing, you can do "/leave g" which hides global chat from you. Just remember to "/join g" later on.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 09:03 PM

I can understand the server cap but now that the servers constantly full i have a really hard time getting into the server without refreshing at least 15 times. Is there a way I can get in easier?

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 09:10 PM

I can understand the server cap but now that the servers constantly full i have a really hard time getting into the server without refreshing at least 15 times. Is there a way I can get in easier?


What this guy said, Ive liked joining this server, but now its basically impossible to get on without knowing times when the server has less population. This makes it impossible for people who would like to be active members, like me, to do so.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 09:26 PM

We need to get statistics of the server population over time. yaknow, so we can see when its least populated. probably at night or in the morning.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 09:36 PM

the server says nearly 50/40 people almost all the time now and i cant get into explore the server

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 09:43 PM

If there where slots would it be like admins or people wh odonate or something?
Does ratty do donations? I doubt it he isnt whiney enough to want money (no offence if you DO do them :3)


I was wondering the same thing.
Ratty's been dumping his time and money into the Brony community for a while now.

I'm not sure how he does it,(I read something on the ON NOM NOM forums about him working with servers in line of profession.)

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 09:45 PM

i think its not really aided the server that so many people join, old players get frustrated, the server lags and adding to that turning server from 1.8 to 1.0.0 adds pressure on the admins, its no good. i hope at least bukkit hurry's up soon.

[*:2fd848eb]I know I'm not frustrated by an influx of new members, especially since all the new people who have joined are bronies. I think the more people, the better.
[*:2fd848eb]I haven't noticed any lag as a result of loads of people. I wasn't online when there were 80 people on, but it didn't affect building at all.
[*:2fd848eb]The server is already at 1.0, there's no worry about that.Please stop making assumptions like this and being all "I want the old server back :'(" conservative, it makes new people feel like they've done something wrong by joining and the rest of us look bad.


okay i think i might have put it the wrong way, i was just looking at it from the point of view of people who have experienced any negative things because of this. apologies anypony who is offended by my last post.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 09:49 PM

If there are dedicated players, the kinks can be worked out with the new population boom. :D

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 09:52 PM

"Out of all of the possilbe things that could have happened, this is the Worst Posssssiiiibbbllleeee Thing!"

With that meme meemed, I haven't been able to get on the server for litterally hours. 5 Minutes ago, the server was at 52/40 people...

Put the cap back to 100 at least while this Yog-wave passes :s

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 09:58 PM

If there are dedicated players, the kinks can be worked out with the new population boom. :D


What about people who are new who just want to become part of the community?

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 10:09 PM

Do you think this will pass though? I mean, you can discourage people to come with a population cap, but that wont solve the problem. That trail from Yogscast to Brohoof will remain. People will continue to funnel through.
More people really isnt a bad thing though, its what most servers strive for lol

If there are dedicated players, the kinks can be worked out with the new population boom. :D


What about people who are new who just want to become part of the community?

Such as myself? :D
I was making a general statement in reguards to the sudden influx of people. I think everypony should be welcomed! :)
However, it would require work and change.

#31 imnotparanoid

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 10:11 PM

This thread is starting to sound like the daily mail.
Dam immigrents ruining our great server!

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 10:17 PM

This thread is starting to sound like the daily mail.
Dam immigrents ruining our great server!

^This lol

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 11:19 PM

I haven't noticed any lag or major stability issues, but I do agree that the chat is totally flooded. Just wondering if it might be possible to create several general chatrooms? Perhaps one that everyone funnels into at the start, and one that only white or possibly yellow (or above) manes can get into? That is, if it's possible to put that sort of restrictions on chatrooms, if not it could be that only white/yellow/above manes would be told what it was called. Another option might be to randomly funnel new arrivals into several different chatrooms, again only if that's possible, and the option to move between them would have to be available too.

Anyway, just my two cents ^^

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 11:23 PM

Guys, stop assuming I WANT that many people. We had 90 people on and the server handled it just fine, but I don't WANT that many people on. How many more times do I need to say it?

It was just not fun for me or the admins having too many people, chat channels would not reduce the amount of work for us, with doing submissions, and doing normal town leadership duties.
I'm not sure if anyone read my post 2 pages back but I said only grey names can't get in right now.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 11:24 PM

Not going to lie, a bit chaotic.
There are still some good sides to this influx, albeit out-weighed by problems, still trying to make note of the bright side.
Then again, happy admins make a happy server.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 11:56 PM

Guys, stop assuming I WANT that many people. We had 90 people on and the server handled it just fine, but I don't WANT that many people on. How many more times do I need to say it?

It was just not fun for me or the admins having too many people, chat channels would not reduce the amount of work for us, with doing submissions, and doing normal town leadership duties.
I'm not sure if anyone read my post 2 pages back but I said only grey names can't get in right now.


I understand your position Ratty :)

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 01:14 AM

about a few months ago, I ran my own Minecraft Classic server on my PC while I was waiting for my new survival server computer. I eventually had some operators but after some time the server became so popular for its organization I had some +70 people on it. My operators didn't come on much so it was really just me manning everything, banning griefers, checking out builds for possible promotions, etc. So things became very hectic everywhere and I eventually had to destroy the server. The thing is, is that in ratty's case, the amount of organization and man power severely influences your max number of people on a server.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 01:23 AM

I just thought of a solution

A tourist server

With this, we can direct people who don't really want to contribute to brohoof to a seperate server, where they don't have build rights. every so often, we will place the backup of Equestria here so it will be up to date.

What do you think. I believe the server can handle it.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 01:39 AM

about a few months ago, I ran my own Minecraft Classic server on my PC while I was waiting for my new survival server computer. I eventually had some operators but after some time the server became so popular for its organization I had some +70 people on it. My operators didn't come on much so it was really just me manning everything, banning griefers, checking out builds for possible promotions, etc. So things became very hectic everywhere and I eventually had to destroy the server. The thing is, is that in ratty's case, the amount of organization and man power severely influences your max number of people on a server.


Ratty and his minions are fully capable of handling having 100 people on at a time. They just don't want to. As has been said about 10 times now.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 02:02 AM

I just thought of a solution

A tourist server

With this, we can direct people who don't really want to contribute to brohoof to a seperate server, where they don't have build rights. every so often, we will place the backup of Equestria here so it will be up to date.

What do you think. I believe the server can handle it.


Here are the problems with that:

1. Two servers means more moderation between the two.
2. Back ups of the world are always available for download, so basically a tourist system would be a shell of what really happens.
3. People will want build rights, and that would means a submission's world in the tourist world, meaning it would double the amount of work for admins to control permissions.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 02:07 AM

Oh my o.o; I guss I picked a bad time to join. I didn't know there was a yogcast or anything. I just happened to show up in the middle of a large influx of bronies o.o;

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 02:20 AM

I just thought of a solution

A tourist server

With this, we can direct people who don't really want to contribute to brohoof to a seperate server, where they don't have build rights. every so often, we will place the backup of Equestria here so it will be up to date.

What do you think. I believe the server can handle it.


Here are the problems with that:

1. Two servers means more moderation between the two.
2. Back ups of the world are always available for download, so basically a tourist system would be a shell of what really happens.
3. People will want build rights, and that would means a submission's world in the tourist world, meaning it would double the amount of work for admins to control permissions.


If they want build rights, they join the actual server. It mainly cleans up the chat.
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Posted 29 November 2011 - 02:33 AM

If they want build rights, they join the actual server. It mainly cleans up the chat.

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But that's the problem. People play Minecraft to build, not to admire. Admiring is a part, not the goal. People would still join the build server, unless it is whitelisted to builders. And why should the staff here waste their time going through builders, allowing them in the server, making sure they don't grief, editing their permissions, and watching over two servers at the same time?

Too much work, and leaves a big hole for trolls to sneak in, as well.

This would be better if the admins were expanding and promoting more people, but considering there is only a little more than 10 people in trusted builders and very few other stand up members, it's not likely.

We need to play the hand we have. And that hand only has one server and the staff that we already have.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 03:01 AM

So, I've been on the server 30 minutes today. And I could swear I've seen that many ponies join.

I've never seen it this laggy.... O.o

Do we have a plan in response to this...?

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 03:04 AM

I temporarily took off the player limit just to see how many were trying to get in.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 03:30 AM

The answer: A lot.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 03:45 AM

honestly i dont know what to say anymore... after the yogscast promoted that mod and the server overflowed... its... i dont want to say its not fun anymore, but its like opening your home during thanksgiving dinner to a hoard of hungry hobo's. i like the popularity but not the population that goes with it. i am sure ratty will find a system that will make things more relaxed like it used to be.

were behind ya ratty...

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 03:59 AM

its like opening your home during thanksgiving dinner to a hoard of hungry hobo's.


You wouldn't welcome me into your home on thanksgiving? :)

Back on topic

I've talked in game to several (pre-yogscast) builders and the general consensus is that we don't mind new people, but none of us like the constant flooding of new people, or having so many people on the server at once. And the fact that Ratty shares our sentiments is the (one of the many) reason he is awesome. :) Here's to hoping things cool off by the weekend.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 04:06 AM

I liked the server before it had this many ponies, it was a nice tightly knit community where everypony knew everyone, now its just turned into a spam fest.

Its almost gotten to the point where it doesn't feel like equestria anymore, sadly i see no way of getting all these ponies to leave.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 04:34 AM

I trust the admins to get the situation worked out, but I do hope it's remedied soon. We are having some serious issues with a few of the Yognauts...

I miss our fun little community... :)

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 05:49 AM

Ratty and admins will solve it eventually, just sit back, relax, and have as much fun you can at this point. Arguing is bringing more harm than good in this case.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 01:52 PM

Ugh, this thread has gone exactly the way I hoped it wouldn't.

Imagine being one of the people who just joined and reading all this. You'd feel pretty bad for signing up. Pretty much everyone who has joined is a brony and wants to come and play on a really good brony server, they shouldn't be made to feel like they've taken part in ruining a once-special place.

Love and tolerate. Everyone who visits without being annoying or having malicious intentions is welcome here, and we'll deal with the rest. You want this place to be a big family? Congratulations, you've just discovered a new great-aunt who's got loads of new cousins who are just like yourself, and they can't wait to meet you.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 09:56 PM

Speaking of the devil... how does this whole reserved slot thing work. i understand how it works but how does one earn it? Ive been trying to get on the server for the past day or so and it always seems that its filled plus reserved slots. From what i have been reading there are no donations so that leaves me to conclude that you need to prove urself on the server. Am i thinking bout this too much? yes i understand the workload of many people on a server (ran one myself for a while) but still it almost seems unfair there are other people monopolizing the system (in the sense of clogging up the slots, normal and reserved). well there is my piece of the discussion

#54 imnotparanoid

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 10:03 PM

pURE said anyone thats not a grey name has them.
But he might have been tricking me!

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 10:32 PM

Speaking of the devil... how does this whole reserved slot thing work. i understand how it works but how does one earn it? Ive been trying to get on the server for the past day or so and it always seems that its filled plus reserved slots. From what i have been reading there are no donations so that leaves me to conclude that you need to prove urself on the server. Am i thinking bout this too much? yes i understand the workload of many people on a server (ran one myself for a while) but still it almost seems unfair there are other people monopolizing the system (in the sense of clogging up the slots, normal and reserved). well there is my piece of the discussion



If you can fight your way in or get through during off hours, we can promote you and you'll be able to bypass reserved slots.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 11:31 PM

Ugh, this thread has gone exactly the way I hoped it wouldn't.

Imagine being one of the people who just joined and reading all this. You'd feel pretty bad for signing up. Pretty much everyone who has joined is a brony and wants to come and play on a really good brony server, they shouldn't be made to feel like they've taken part in ruining a once-special place.

Love and tolerate. Everyone who visits without being annoying or having malicious intentions is welcome here, and we'll deal with the rest. You want this place to be a big family? Congratulations, you've just discovered a new great-aunt who's got loads of new cousins who are just like yourself, and they can't wait to meet you.

I love this post. It totally changed my entire view on this whole situation.

I was letting my annoyance at all the foals and parasprites from last night get the better of me. I say, if you're willing to behave, contribute, and have a good time, welcome! :P

Thank you Haz.

#57 WaffleDot

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 11:32 PM

Well I've fought my way in maybe twice, and my client always crashes due to the memory leak from MLP mod and I lose my spot.
Is it possible to bypass the population limit without having to log onto the server and asking an administrator to promote me? I just want to wander and freebuild.

Edit: I've followed the basic, make an introduction post but lacking the admin approval part.
Edit2: Well I know having the mod on is optional but when you've spent some time working on a skin you'd want to make full use of it.

#58 maxaminus

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 11:44 PM

Well I've fought my way in maybe twice, and my client always crashes due to the memory leak from MLP mod and I lose my spot.
Is it possible to bypass the population limit without having to log onto the server and asking an administrator to promote me? I just want to wander and freebuild.


Unfortunately, this is a new problem for us and we're still learning how to approach it. Stick around for a bit, I'm pretty sure we'll be able to work you in eventually.

Also, If the MLP mod is causing you to crash, you can always disable it, at least temporarily. It's not compulsory to have it installed to play on the server.

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 12:37 AM

Ugh, this thread has gone exactly the way I hoped it wouldn't.

Imagine being one of the people who just joined and reading all this. You'd feel pretty bad for signing up. Pretty much everyone who has joined is a brony and wants to come and play on a really good brony server, they shouldn't be made to feel like they've taken part in ruining a once-special place.

Love and tolerate. Everyone who visits without being annoying or having malicious intentions is welcome here, and we'll deal with the rest. You want this place to be a big family? Congratulations, you've just discovered a new great-aunt who's got loads of new cousins who are just like yourself, and they can't wait to meet you.


If I came off as saying that I'm against new people I'm sorry... I like when new people join. Ever since I've been here I've been spending about half my time hanging out in submissions with them. It's just stressful when you want to get to know them all but you can't because there are so many. And now I kinda wish that my first post and ratty's response hadn't been pulled out the thread that it was in context in and made it's own thread because I probably look like a jerk. :x

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 08:58 AM

Speaking of the devil... how does this whole reserved slot thing work. i understand how it works but how does one earn it? Ive been trying to get on the server for the past day or so and it always seems that its filled plus reserved slots. From what i have been reading there are no donations so that leaves me to conclude that you need to prove urself on the server. Am i thinking bout this too much? yes i understand the workload of many people on a server (ran one myself for a while) but still it almost seems unfair there are other people monopolizing the system (in the sense of clogging up the slots, normal and reserved). well there is my piece of the discussion



If you can fight your way in or get through during off hours, we can promote you and you'll be able to bypass reserved slots.


Do i have to ask for it or does it just come with builder?

#61 Vantomz001

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 02:24 PM

I'm going to jump in a drop my opinion here.

It is AMAZING that this many people have expressed an interest in joining the server!
Doesn't it make you feel special to know that our community is the best out there and that so many people want to be a part of it?

New people bring new ideas and new experiences, and so our server will get a breath of fresh ideas and influences. Think of all the progress that could be made with all the new builders we can get from this!

Now, I don't mind helping others out, hell, I LOVE helping out others.
But when I get stupid questions that can be easily solved by reading what you are supposed to, then I get annoyed.
This can be solved with a better spawn world, which I believe Hazzat is working on at the moment

Another plus with the new influx of players is that I have never seen submissions so full!
There is never a dull moment now, whether it be helping the new-ones or judging submissions, there is really no time to relax.

Personally, I think that our glorious Admins are doing too much work.
You'll burn out eventually guys!
Let the Builders and Trusted take some weight.
Let us answer the questions and help out the new-ones, and let you guys focus on the paperwork side of things.


In conclusion:
This influx is great for the server, it might not seem like it at the moment, but once this all dies down and the server population plateaus there will be time to relax and to build in peace and harmony, just like the old times. But for now, we have to knuckle down and get through this.
Together.

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 02:46 PM

I'm going to jump in a drop my opinion here.

It is AMAZING that this many people have expressed an interest in joining the server!
Doesn't it make you feel special to know that our community is the best out there and that so many people want to be a part of it?

New people bring new ideas and new experiences, and so our server will get a breath of fresh ideas and influences. Think of all the progress that could be made with all the new builders we can get from this!

Now, I don't mind helping others out, hell, I LOVE helping out others.
But when I get stupid questions that can be easily solved by reading what you are supposed to, then I get annoyed.
This can be solved with a better spawn world, which I believe Hazzat is working on at the moment

Another plus with the new influx of players is that I have never seen submissions so full!
There is never a dull moment now, whether it be helping the new-ones or judging submissions, there is really no time to relax.

Personally, I think that our glorious Admins are doing too much work.
You'll burn out eventually guys!
Let the Builders and Trusted take some weight.
Let us answer the questions and help out the new-ones, and let you guys focus on the paperwork side of things.


In conclusion:
This influx is great for the server, it might not seem like it at the moment, but once this all dies down and the server population plateaus there will be time to relax and to build in peace and harmony, just like the old times. But for now, we have to knuckle down and get through this.
Together.


I wouldn't mind it, but it's just that so many people are joining so I don't have any time to get to know anypony. Before it was like a big family, and everyone knew everyone, with one or two new players every day, and there were like four to twenty people on the server. That's why I don't like it so much :/

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 07:38 PM

I agree, and I haven't even visited the server yet. In fact, I haven't been able to connect at all, and it is very vexing.

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 08:26 PM

I agree with Vantomz. We builders can answer some questions too, and help the new ponyes.
The thing that suprises me is that the submissions world is getting cramped. Soon as the third submission area was opened it was getting filled.
But still the most annoying thing is that the newcomers wont read the forums, and when you tell them to go and read the rules they just say "Nah." and continue building a house that is completely out of theme.
Luckily most of them listen to what the builders say, if its about their sub house.

To me this is a funn experience and im liking the new people.

#65 maxaminus

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 08:29 PM

But still the most annoying thing is that the newcomers wont read the forums, and when you tell them to go and read the rules they just say "Nah." and continue building a house that is completely out of theme.



It's tempting to try to correct them, but it's best to just let people who build out-of-theme fail. If they aren't diligent enough to read the rules on their own, they'll cause frustration for the admins and eventually undermine the quality of the server.

#66 Vantomz001

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 01:19 AM

It's tempting to try to correct them, but it's best to just let people who build out-of-theme fail. If they aren't diligent enough to read the rules on their own, they'll cause frustration for the admins and eventually undermine the quality of the server.


Maxinamus has a point.
If we let the ones that dont listen keep building and fail, many wont wait the month for a re-try and will leave.

I reckon that the person's attitude and behaviour should be taken into account during the submission process.
Sure you may have built an amazing house, but you are a real dick to everyone, so you dont pass.

Whatcha think about that idea?

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 01:54 AM


It's tempting to try to correct them, but it's best to just let people who build out-of-theme fail. If they aren't diligent enough to read the rules on their own, they'll cause frustration for the admins and eventually undermine the quality of the server.


Maxinamus has a point.
If we let the ones that dont listen keep building and fail, many wont wait the month for a re-try and will leave.

I reckon that the person's attitude and behaviour should be taken into account during the submission process.
Sure you may have built an amazing house, but you are a real dick to everyone, so you dont pass.

Whatcha think about that idea?

Your "anti-babysitting" idea seems good but its really a battle of generosity. You can baby sit them by helping them and letting them slide through alot, which pays off in happieness. The other way is to "anti-babysit" and just dont help, which causes frusteration to the victims but relieves admins with the simple "you were mean to others, your gone" rule. Basicly, its rather simplicity to strict or complexity to kindness. Its almost impossible to find the median of 2 opposites in this situation

#68 Harley

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 02:59 AM

I'm a bit flustered with the sudden surge. Its a shame, since I used to come on the server.
but then I met Zombiefobby through here and I then ran to help a friend run a server and I ended up loosing the ip address [since back in those days we didnt have the server list!]
Then the Yog crew did a mine little pony vid and with the new season I got my MLP bug back, and my normal server being down I'm a bit lost for where to go. Zombie threw me a link to a server he goes to. but its very... greify. theres no real administration on here and I've been stolen from and I miss all my pony friends :<
But due to this surge I cant get on! I even saw 61/40 on earlier!!

#69 Chaliandra

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 03:43 PM


But still the most annoying thing is that the newcomers wont read the forums, and when you tell them to go and read the rules they just say "Nah." and continue building a house that is completely out of theme.



It's tempting to try to correct them, but it's best to just let people who build out-of-theme fail. If they aren't diligent enough to read the rules on their own, they'll cause frustration for the admins and eventually undermine the quality of the server.


This.
There was a pony buidling a sqaure blue house with a pink roof. I tell he is doomed to autofail and offer him to show him some nice houses in the deathswan area. Of course he just rebuilds his house, same design, now made completely out of logs and yellow wool roof.

Point is, shouting at a person with closed ears will not help them. If someone specifically asks for building advice like I did, that person should be helped. But not the people who pay no attention to the rules and does not care for contributing to the server.

#70 Vantomz001

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 04:05 PM

This.
There was a pony buidling a sqaure blue house with a pink roof. I tell he is doomed to autofail and offer him to show him some nice houses in the deathswan area. Of course he just rebuilds his house, same design, now made completely out of logs and yellow wool roof.


In that situation, you should have let him fail as he didn't pay attention to the rules and regulations.

If someone asks for help then by all means give it to them.
For example, say their house is a rainbow coloured cloud. And they ask for help, first thing you should say: "Go to ponyville and look at the houses in the residential district, then come back and compare them to your house. See what you are doing wrong." then move on to the next person. If they dont get it, tell them to look around submissions and get them to tell you what is a common theme. If they say they get it, then leave them to their own devices.

Thats how I work it.

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 07:18 PM

something about banning grey names, then says about banning whitenames




Oh Buck.

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 09:04 PM

something about banning grey names, then says about banning whitenames

Oh Buck.

I'm sorry? O.o?

#73 Zixevak

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 03:44 AM

I'm one of the newer people and you may ignore this post anyway but I actually came here through The mine little pony mod page on the forums page. I actually thought yogscast were anti-bronies. Imagine my surprise when they used it. either way I can see the split between the people who want to love and tolerate and those that wish the community was how it was origionally. I think that the admins are relying too much on themselves and should let some of the lower ranks deal with the "grey" names. I would be more than happy to help out.
Just saying
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#74 Vantomz001

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 04:32 AM

I think that the admins are relying too much on themselves and should let some of the lower ranks deal with the "grey" names.


I have brought this up with the admins on many occasions. They are grateful for all the help we can give them.

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 05:20 PM

There are a number of things members can do to help.

Seeing someone talking consistently in the traditional royal canterlot voice? Just ask them to stop, usually people get the idea and stop.

Same goes for people who like to mess around with other pony's builds, ask them to stop and go find a freebuild area, or ask them to help you build.

Most of the time, people will listen and stop rulebreaking at the spot. Of course, if the person continues to harrass/grief/spam then an admin should step in. But just because we dont have admin rights, does not mean we cannot help out with telling others what the rules are.

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 05:48 PM

There are a number of things members can do to help.

Seeing someone talking consistently in the traditional royal canterlot voice? Just ask them to stop, usually people get the idea and stop.

Same goes for people who like to mess around with other pony's builds, ask them to stop and go find a freebuild area, or ask them to help you build.

Most of the time, people will listen and stop rulebreaking at the spot. Of course, if the person continues to harrass/grief/spam then an admin should step in. But just because we dont have admin rights, does not mean we cannot help out with telling others what the rules are.



I agree.

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 10:05 PM

something about banning grey names, then says about banning whitenames

Oh Buck.

I'm sorry? O.o?

Im a whitemane.

#78 maxaminus

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 10:40 PM

We do appreciate the help, just be sure not to overstep your authority. Guide other players, but don't lecture, chide, humiliate, or attempt to punish them. If a player won't listen to reason, bring it to the attention of an admin.


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