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#101 Rhythmition

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 03:57 PM

false? how

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 04:00 PM

You don't have a reason. That means the entire lunar republic is false.


Oooohhhh....

It's funny because it's true.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 05:01 PM

and there is reason for the celestial empire, chaos kingdom, and changeling hive?

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 05:08 PM

Erhem... He changeling hive isn't in equestria. Celestia does not own an empire, she runs a princedom that has never been shown to fight anyone, the royal guards are just for show. And as for chaos capitol, that was created by discord because he is more powerful then Luna and Celestia combined. He can warp reality by clicking his fingers for christ's sakes!

So... Non of those are examples of tyranny.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 05:10 PM

Actually, I'd say forcing a way of life (chaos) onto every one of your subjects would be pretty tyrannical...
or is that just me?

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 05:45 PM

Luna would be a crappy leader, just look at Luna Eclipsed.

#107 Rhythmition

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 05:55 PM

you aren't getting what Im saying all of those are other factions created by the fans and I have yet to see anyone on this thread bash them only the NLR I'm wanting to know why the NLR is such a big target

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 05:58 PM

We arn't "bashing" the lunar republic, we're just saying wih no evidence to celestia being a tyrant, it's basically a quest for power, despite Luna having a high amount of power herself, it doesn't reall make much sense when you get your head round it.

#109 Rhythmition

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 06:03 PM

I still think Celestia's whole equal rule thing is a load of bull we all know she gets more power than Luna
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 06:07 PM

Do you remember Luna's line in the canter lot wedding?

"I shall guard the night, as always"

She's probably in charge of the night time you know.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 06:26 PM

Or so you think

so being a night dweller I would naturally favor Luna

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 06:33 PM

Luna wouldn't make a good ruler, anyway. She uses the 'Traditional Royal Canterlot Voice', or at least used to, and since Celestia clearly changed that while she was gone it could be evidence that Luna actually isn't the better princess.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 06:37 PM

There are two sides to that coin friend

Celestia also didn't tell Luna that the speaking pattern had changed so you can also blame Celestia for that one Luna was just doing what was customary nopony told her any different

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 06:47 PM

Luna probably never asked.

#115 Rhythmition

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 06:56 PM

Why would she think that things changed we've been speaking the same way more or less for hundreds of years.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:07 PM

Or maybe it's that she wanted Twilight to show the town Luna is nice, it is something Celestia would do.

#117 Rhythmition

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:08 PM

Ok make sister seem like the bad mare just to tech student?

Don't think so

#118 Blazuhira Miller

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:11 PM

No. Allow student to teah the judgemental citizens of Ponyville that bad guys can change.

#119 Rhythmition

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:27 PM

still not buying it

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 09:02 PM

Celestia has Twilight and Rainbow Dash

-your argument is invalid

#121 Rhythmition

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 01:12 AM

ah but does she have my most experienced pyrotechnic to ever walk the face of equestria I don't think so

Edited by Flaming Night, 01 August 2012 - 01:12 AM.


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Posted 01 August 2012 - 01:17 AM

[This probably has nothing to do with the previous conversations since I'm too lazy to read them...]

From the canon conflicts, I would have to say that Luna is probably more powerful than Celestia. Celestia needed to use the elements of harmony to defeat Nightmare Moon, and was otherwise out of the way of the mane six.
Even so, I would go for Luna on any account because Luna is my favorite pony :3

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 01:55 AM

ah but does she have my most experienced pyrotechnic to ever walk the face of equestria I don't think so


OC characters don't count, for all you know Celestia has the Avatar pony on her side to bend the four elements and destroy you.

[This probably has nothing to do with the previous conversations since I'm too lazy to read them...]

From the canon conflicts, I would have to say that Luna is probably more powerful than Celestia. Celestia needed to use the elements of harmony to defeat Nightmare Moon, and was otherwise out of the way of the mane six.
Even so, I would go for Luna on any account because Luna is my favorite pony :3


Wrong, Luna herself has not been proven to be more powerful than Celestia. Nightmare Moon and Luna are two entities, 1 of which is possessed by a malevolent spirit spawned by Luna's jealousy. Nightmare Moon was very powerful, so much that even by wielding the Elements of Harmony Celestia could not fully defeat her but banished her to the moon.

Celestia could have used the Elements by herself as she did in the past, but that would have only resulted in another banishment, another temporary solution. Instead, she let the elements take a stronger form by powering it with the friendship of the Mane 6. This was probably the only way to get rid of the malevolent Nightmare Moon spirit: by blasting her with friendship lasers. By doing this, she both transformed the elements into their more powerful form AND found a permanent way to have her sister back (Notice that the elements of harmony were mere chunks of rock before they became kick ass gold jewelry and stuff)

We have had no scenes where Luna's magic has proven to be more powerful than Celestias. In fact, the only show of magic she ever makes is during the Nightmare Night festival, and turning random things into spiders is just a parlor trick.

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 02:21 AM

O.O

Okie Doki, well I just got my flank handed to me on a silver platter...

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 03:02 AM

Actually wouldn't nopony win because the elements of harmony are split in two groups?

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 03:10 AM

Found Introduction Video for both sides.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_119320&feature=iv&src_vid=MrWeDxGJtpE&v=tkXUD9XF2qw


As a member of the Lunar Special Tactics Squadron, I feel that this whole war is a trick by a computer to cause us all to kill each other. I call Skynet on this video (C.O.L.T. the pony version of Skynet?)

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 05:59 PM

The Matrix has you...

Somepony should make a Matrix pony themed video that would be the bomb (this is so off topic xD)

#128 Rhythmition

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 06:33 PM

((C.O.L.T is Skynet lol))

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 11:10 PM

I was a bit surprised at Fluttershy, but I guess it makes sense since she's into chaos.


Well the lunar republic wants all animals equal, and fluttershy loves animals. Im with the solar kingdom! ponys ftw! (also pinkie pie is on the solar kingdom) Ponys are the superior race!

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 08:09 PM

I would fight for Mata Nui and the matoran!

Wait, what were we talking about?

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 08:54 PM

I would fight for Mata Nui and the matoran!

Wait, what were we talking about?


All my internetz. You can haz them.

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 09:02 PM

:D

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 09:09 PM

in fact, here is a song to celebrate your victory



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Posted 08 August 2012 - 02:38 AM

The destiny war ended, but Teridax's plan was not over yet....

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 01:17 PM


And this is why the Equestrian Unity collective is the best option. full lyrics in the spoiler below.
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Posted 09 August 2012 - 01:19 PM

I am on the side of Truth, Justice and free Healthcare.

Sounds like someone who never visited australia.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 05:16 AM

I always have preferred luna over celestia, and having applejack and fluttershy on my side is great but twilight's not here. Damn!

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 04:42 PM

For celestia! wait may i ask, what is this for like a game? JW

#139 Rhythmition

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 05:32 PM

For celestia! wait may i ask, what is this for like a game? JW


no Its more of a who would win kind of thing / fav princess

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 06:31 PM

no Its more of a who would win kind of thing / fav princess

Actually, it's more like who makes a good ruler, that's why I keep saying celestia is a better ruler, even though I like Luna better.

Edited by Blazer, 13 August 2012 - 06:31 PM.


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Posted 13 August 2012 - 06:50 PM

Actually, it's more like who makes a good ruler, that's why I keep saying celestia is a better ruler, even though I like Luna better.


yet you play Celestia in my rp I find this Ironic.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 07:04 PM

yet you play Celestia in my rp I find this Ironic.

Nanook already had Luna. And I like them both.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 07:54 PM

Nanook already had Luna. And I like them both.

I ninja it. Hehe

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 10:03 PM

The Lunar Empire Duh for five reasons

1. LUNA IS BEST PONEHHHHH

2. Bad guys always get beter armor weapons and skills.

3. I can force choke anyone I chose to.

4. I get lines that can be rembered and quoted for years

5. Night is the perfect time for assassinations.

Edited by TheXzoron, 13 August 2012 - 10:22 PM.


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Posted 13 August 2012 - 10:15 PM

The Lunar Empire Duh for five reasons

1. LUNA IS BEST PONEHHHHH

2. Bad guys always get beter armor weapons and skills.

3. I can force choke anyone I chose to.

4. I get lines that can be rembered and quoted for years

5. Night is the perfect time for assassinations.

Bad guys? Wut.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 10:20 PM

Bad guys? Wut.

I mean REBLES.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 10:22 PM

I mean REBLES.

Force choke? Wut.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 10:29 PM

Force choke? Wut.

I mean squeezing the neck with unicorn powers.

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 02:08 AM

As much as I support the Solar Empire, the Lunar republic can be very persuasive...

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help me, she's going to stab me with her sword :(

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 06:58 PM

Seems we are missing a side

CHAOS

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 07:07 PM

As much as I support the Solar Empire, the Lunar republic can be very persuasive...

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help me, she's going to stab me with her sword :(

The only problem is Celestia can make it blow up with MAGIC.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 07:36 PM

Seems we are missing a side

CHAOS

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well i know where my loyalty lies...


BUCK YOU ALL I'VE GONE TO CHAOS!

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 07:38 PM

well i know where my loyalty lies...


BUCK YOU ALL I'VE GONE TO CHAOS!

He's turned. Open fire.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 07:59 PM

*uses Chaos magic to block them before turning the into butterflys*
"good luck Blaze!"

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 08:02 PM

"Fuck."

*sends Gordon Freemane to kill Neon*

I have no idea why we're doing this. Chaos wasn't an option.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 01:11 AM

I have no idea why we're doing this. Chaos wasn't an option.


Chaos is always an option

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 04:05 PM

why would you support chaos OR lunar republic if Celestia has beaten them both pretty one sidedly

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 04:50 PM

why would you support chaos OR lunar republic if Celestia has beaten them both pretty one sidedly

Well celestia never faced the New Lunar Republic or Lunar Republic (Modern pony times). And Chaos is not just Discord
Celestia only fought Nightmare moon and Discord. Both times she had to use the Elements of Harmony. She can't use the elements anymore. She was defeated by Chrysalis.

I'm wondering how powerful the Crystal Empire is now.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 04:58 PM

Celestia was defeated by powered up Chrysalis, at the time the most powerful thing in Equestria, Celestia is still pretty powerful.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 05:01 PM

Isn't this a victory by default for Celestia since the Lunard Republic doesn't exist?

All I see are the rantings of Post-Foozle crazies.

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 02:41 AM

I was speaking in primary leadership which points to Luna and Discord

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 02:10 PM

I was speaking of a no Elements of Harmony like the two videos in this topic.

Discord was defeated by a powered up (Elements of Harmony) Luna and Celestia.
Nightmare Moon was defeated by a powered up (Elements of Harmony) Celestia.

And now Celestia can not use the Elements of Harmony. The Elements are split so Celestia doesn't have anyway to defeat them. I'm going by the return to harmony, and the canterlot wedding. When Discord escaped, she immediately try to get the Elements ready. During the wedding, Celestia was defeated by Chrysalis. She called for the Elements.

So going on this idea of Celestia uses the Elements incase she is defeated or on the verge of being defeated. She couldn't defeat Nightmare Moon or Discord without the Elements. So what happens if they return and the Elements are gone or split like the video.


Colt-net makes heavy losses for both sides and bam. The robot ponies come to destroy us all. Then Discord comes in to cause chaos.

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 02:15 PM

So we still don't win do we commander?

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 06:25 PM

Well Military wise the Solars have a small edge since they have weapons and past training, thou it is a double edge sword. A thousand years or more of no new tactics will hurt a military force. The regular army would have little to no combat experience. It would take a large amount of time to train and evovle the training for a modern conflict.

The NLR will have the same problem but would have little to no weapons and past training. The NLR would have an edge in military because they are not accountable by combat rules. Most likely they would relay on Guerrilla warface to survive depending on how many ponies join their cause.

The closest war that comes to mind to this conflict is the American Revolutionary War, thou the victory of this conflict would be hard to say. It depends on so much and there isn't much to go on.

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 10:25 PM

WHAT IF! the mane 6 became a separatist force? With the elements then they are unstoppable.

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 11:56 PM

WHAT IF! the mane 6 became a separatist force? With the elements then they are unstoppable.


Yeap it would be game over for everypony then. Nothing has been shown cannon wise so far to be able to stop the Elements of Harmnoy. The Doctor maybe

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 02:49 AM

lol the Doctor vs. The Elements of Harmony Epic Pony Battle of History

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 03:29 AM

You know, its really inconvenient that the Elements of Harmony are all stored away in a vault in Canterlot. What happens if Canterlot gets fireballed by a new villain? Or shut off from all access?

Mane Six would be pretty bucked, wouldn't they?

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 08:37 PM

Well you could say that already happen in the Return to Harmony episodes. Discord took the Elements away from the vault. {BTW, Celestia needs to upgrade the vault to be chaos proof} And he brainwashed the Mane Six to be unable to use the Elements (or Spike being the new RD made the Elements mad).

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 08:40 PM

i lol'd when spike became the new RD

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 01:36 AM

most likely Guerrilla warfare at least that's the way I always pictured it that and it being similar to the Vietnam war but with the same goals as the Americana Revolutionary war..

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 02:55 AM

Call in the friendship gas!

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 03:11 AM

how come the normal ponys dont get to choose? like a vote and solve this diplomaticly

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 03:13 AM

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 09:59 AM

Call in the weaponized bathtubs!

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 10:29 AM

For Captania!

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 05:50 PM

Deffinetly with Celestia. they have raindbow dash, twilight, and pinkie .......party power, the sonic rainboom, and super magic ...... We already know who won....

Edited by Death, 27 August 2012 - 05:51 PM.


#178 Rhythmition

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 06:53 PM

Yea the Changelings. Espionage is quite the effective tactic

#179 Shiroe

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 10:27 PM

Biomass is best pony.

For all those who don't understand what I'm referencing, look up Romantically Apocalyptic.

#180 Rhythmition

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 11:14 PM

I don't understand but you sir can have my internet anyway

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#181 SilverOtter

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 04:27 AM

most likely Guerrilla warfare at least that's the way I always pictured it that and it being similar to the Vietnam war but with the same goals as the Americana Revolutionary war..


I thought the Vietnam war had a similar goal as the Revolution... (Freedom from control.)

#182 Rhythmition

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 01:05 PM

I don't know I'm not much of a history kind of guy.

#183 Guardian Selene

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 05:43 PM

I thought the Vietnam war had a similar goal as the Revolution... (Freedom from control.)


The goal of both sides of Vietnam war was different from the American Revolution. Vietnam was a fight between two government systems. Communism and Capitalism. The North trained some southern groups that hated the corrupt capitalist south and sent troops to conquer the south to spread communism. The goal of the North was to take control of the south. While the south wanted the stats quo of their government system.

#184 Quoth the Raven

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 08:41 PM

Hold on everypony! I just read all ten pages of this forum discussion and I found that a war between the solar and lunar empire would be irrelevant as they are both meant to rule together. I choose the peacemakers.

Oh hey, have a third party.
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The Equestrian Unity Collective seems to be a pre-war group suggesting the two sisters rule together, and avoid a violent conflict.

Obviously, like any sensible pony, I'm with these guys. Battles between gods are never pretty. Still, If war does break out, than I'm still loyal to the Solar Empire.




And also, I know there's already a This Is War pony video on this discussion, but still, this one was the first that came to mind, and the fan art is awesome (Fluttershy riding dragon /)^u^(\ )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JrLRawqcbA

#185 Golfmann

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 09:42 PM

Fluttershy riding a dragon????
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Posted 29 August 2012 - 10:01 PM

I have to say, I'd side with Celestia.
I'd hate to be considered an enemy of Pinkie Pie
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I don't think i need any more reason than that.

#187 Defective

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 05:38 AM

Heh, Celesita is like from animal farm
http://28.media.tumb... ... o1_500.jpg


This. ^
xD Next thing you know, they'll be walking on two legs and sleeping in beds and- .... oh god. ._.

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 05:55 AM

*References to biomechanical beings that are very obscure in an effort to introduce a completely different party*

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TO SERVE AND PROTECT TURAGA DUME

VAHKI - SURRENDER OR RUN.

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#189 greenhatgirl2001

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 11:00 AM

Im With The Lunar Republic cos Applejack And Fluttershy are there!

#190 SilverOtter

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 05:04 PM

And that's why I'm the Wizard who did it!

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 10:23 PM

Im With The Lunar Republic cos Applejack And Fluttershy are there!

I am with you long live the night and rainbow dash is one of us

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#192 Rhythmition

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 01:33 PM

wow this tread again... lol

FOR THE REPUBLIC!

#193 Krasniye

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 12:43 AM

I am going to be loyal and side with Celestia, unlike all of you traitors....you should be ashamed. But if you want to come back.....we have cookies...
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Edited by Krasniye, 22 September 2012 - 12:49 AM.


#194 Sky Jazz

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 02:15 AM

Going to have to stick with celestia, That OFC Looks boss! Can I "Touchy-Touchy"?

#195 FaffleMaster

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 03:33 PM

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 06:11 PM

I am going to be loyal and side with Celestia, unlike all of you traitors....you should be ashamed. But if you want to come back.....we have cookies...
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Agreed.

#197 Guardian Selene

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 11:35 PM

The echoes of the past of when Equestria recovered from the great disharmony linger in our mind. We chose our way to make harmony once more, but thou wouldn't listen.

We admit our actions were not proper, but thou chose this outcome a thousand years ago. Now the echoes of that event have brought others to sing a sour and grim melody.

May they be more forgiving than you.

#198 Krasniye

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 01:54 AM

Going to have to stick with celestia, That OFC Looks boss! Can I "Touchy-Touchy"?


No.
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#199 FaffleMaster

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 03:23 AM

Eh. Still sticking with the Oligarchy.

#200 Rhythmition

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 03:05 PM

FOR THE REPUBLIC!


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