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#1 Prince Polaris

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 09:39 PM

Ok guys I am not sure why but my CPU spikes every few seconds, and I found out that Services.exe was causing it, but when I killed the process, it made Windows Shut down.   This started last night, and it hasn't stopped, do any of you know what it is or how to Fix it?
 

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:33 PM

I'm pretty sure your using XP, right? If not I can try and find another solution, but try this:
 

From Microsoft:

 

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Hope this helps, also none of this works on win7

 

EDIT: I've had personal experance with these types of problems, though not the 'Service.exe' one, I had another one leeching my performance due to a corrupted Microsoft Word font file! (Could you believe it?) Though it was fixed with simply deleting a file and windows automatically making a new 'Non-corrupted version'. Also, were you installing any programs at the time? Did you update windows or uninstall something? I can often be related to 3rd Part Applications. (Such as games ect.)

 

EDI Again: There is a program I can link to you here that lets you see what processes are related to Services.exe, so what programs are causing the huge load: I suggest you download Process Explorer:

                  

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:49 PM

that's normal for XP Polaris

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:50 PM

Unless it's making the computer slow, I guess it's not to be worrying about.

If problems persist this thread might help you solve it: http://forums.techgu...high-cpu-2.html


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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:58 PM

well on my old dell dimesion 2500, the cpu usually jumps a lot most things today even the patches with xp seem to want multi core or hyper threading

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 11:07 PM

This is a Dell Latitude D830, and no it doesn't interfere with anything but it annoys me and it makes Minecraft lag every time it spikes.

 

Already have Process Explorer, and I found the four threads causing the Spikes....

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 11:21 PM

Services.exe was causing it, but when I killed the process


Uhhhh...

 

Services.exe is the core Windows process that runs all service processes, including stuff like all your drivers. Killing it is like deleting system32.

 

If it's regularly spiking, then odds are your computer is configured to run too much crap on startup, so try removing anything you don't need from startup.



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Posted 03 July 2014 - 11:37 PM

and with it being a laptop, theres even more background processes needed for it to run properly usually, so best advice, don't touch what you don't know, you can as Tsar said, turn off stuff from startup that you don't need

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 11:43 PM

It could be todo with something you installed that night, or an update ect. Though Cap. Char is right, be careful what you touch best to make a backup if you going to do stuff like that. And its good too check your start up as Seabreeze mentioned. Though I believe XP is quite buggy altogether, though was a great OS in its time.


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Posted 03 July 2014 - 11:47 PM

Yeah both of my Computers are XP, but with everything I've done it looks like someone shoved Windows XP, 7, vista, and 8 into a blender and poured it onto my Computers...

 

And I'll try the start-up thing and tell ya if it works...



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Posted 04 July 2014 - 06:51 AM

You've really gone and done it this time.



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Posted 04 July 2014 - 12:55 PM

Yeah both of my Computers are XP, but with everything I've done it looks like someone shoved Windows XP, 7, vista, and 8 into a blender and poured it onto my Computers...

 

And I'll try the start-up thing and tell ya if it works...

 

How do you live? God I have windows 7, and want windows 8 but I'm afraid of losing my stuff. Windows XP though?! It hurts! And your CPU speed has to be sooo slow!



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Posted 04 July 2014 - 04:53 PM

Actually, no- My Laptop has a Core two duo with clock speeds of 2.20 GHz and 2.19 GHz, and I looked at a Windows 8 Laptop at Radioshack and it was a Dual core with both of its cores at 1.8 GHz!  So no, it's not slow, and stop making windows XP sound like it's terrible.

Now my Desktop has a Pentium D and I usually just have Skype and My server running on it mostly because I need more RAM, not because of the processor being unable to take it- [Minecraft servers take a ton of stinking RAM], so it's fine too.

 

But anyways, after old 2003, I know what Slow is, and these computers are not slow.

eugh 1999 processors

 

And what is it with Windows XP and everybody being Butts to it?  It's the only OS that MicroSoft put out that people actually Wanted to buy, ya know.  People bought 7 because Vista was terrible, and Not too many People Like 8.



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Posted 04 July 2014 - 05:26 PM

So no, it's not slow, and stop making windows XP sound like it's terrible.

Look, the issue here is that using windows XP in 2014+ is like using a box phone in your truck simply because you like to be sentimental. Windows XP has lost support, as you already know, and because no security updates are being pumped out, you're at an incredibly high risk of a massive virus attack or theft of your computer via a hacker. It's probably already got viruses on it but since you don't get security updates they just run as any other program would. Since Microsoft publishes the system breach information and security risks that they patch in Vista, 7, and 8, but they don't patch it on XP, any half-smart up-and-coming hacker can test their worth by just hacking your XP with little to no resistance just for practice. Your regular scanning anti-virus programs and anti-malware programs only detect what you've downloaded or what might be running on your computer. You can't see the things that might've infested your other applications because your os simply isn't capable of detecting it anymore. It's rather impressive that your computer still runs after 3 months of having wide-open gates to any hacker who wants to stroll right on in and take over the joint.

 

You might think you're ok if you haven't noticed any problems, but consider that anybody else who was born and raised in this internet age has pretty much stepped away from the 'legacy os' to use what keeps them and their information safe. You're just toying with it hoping nothing will happen, and it's going to bite you in the ass and then you'll really regret it. Until you've had to call banks and credit card companies to try and roll back thousands of dollars that a hacker has stolen from you because you thought you were safe, then you'll be living in bliss. And that bliss is ignorant. Trust me, it is a royal pain in the ass to have to deal with banks because somebody stole thousands of dollars and bought stuff under your name. There's really not much you can do and there's a lot less you can do afterwards until you're in the free and clear, but that takes a long time to bounce back from. At your age, you can't afford that. This happened to me when I was still in high school and it was awful to put it plainly.

 

It doesn't really matter if you enjoy vista, 7, or 8, but your security matters a bit more and I'm sure your parents don't want to have to deal with the banks on your behalf, especially if it's their money and their information on the line. My advice? Just get windows 7. It's better than vista, it's easier to use than 8, and it'll likely be able to run your fabled minecraft even on the cheapest of desktops/laptops.



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Posted 04 July 2014 - 07:36 PM

Yes, I realize that windows XP is dead, and to tell the truth I wouldn't mind using 8!  It's not that bad, and there's a way to get the Start Button Back!  But the problem is that I have absolutely no Money Whatsoever.

 

I am getting a Job, yes, but all of that Money is going towards a car- I have no Money for a better Computer, I have no Money to Buy a new version of Windows, and I refuse to Pirate one.  I realize that I need a newer version of Windows, and I'm doing my best to give Linux a shot, I even like it a little, but it's not as good as windows, it's hard to use and nothing seems to work right.  So Yes, I know I need a newer OS, Yes, I'm perfectly fine with Windows 8, and yes I would use Windows 8 if I had enough money to buy it!  But I'd have to buy Two Copies, and I do NOT have the money for that!  I can't even buy a measly 2GB stick of RAM to keep my server from crashing!  I'm not begging for Money, because I have no idea how money works over the internet, but I am doing the best I can with what I have, and what I have is Windows XP.  I'm not trying to be rude and say that I think your Idea is dumb, I agree with it, but I just have no way to accomplish it.  When I get out and try to ask people for Help, I'm not asking for all of you to yell at me for not having an OS I can't afford, I'm asking for help so that I can use what I have to the best of my Abilities.

 

And the thing with the Hacker, I have no Credit Cards, I have a Bank account but I know nothing about it, so I doubt a hacker can get in and steal something I don't have from something that doesn't exist.



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Posted 04 July 2014 - 08:04 PM

you could move to Linux, its what I did with all my xp machines, since win7 is harder on the cpu, lubuntu works just fine as a replacement, as long as you know what your doing with Linux that is

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 08:05 PM

Well, you could always sell some of the mediocre computers you have. It might not get you much money, but if you start saving it, you should have enough eventually.



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Posted 04 July 2014 - 08:19 PM

I am doing my best to learn how to use Linux, and the problem is I am buying a Car very soon, so every cent I get my hands on is going to go towards the Car...



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Posted 04 July 2014 - 09:16 PM

Yeah, I know that, but if you want to get Windows 8 and won't pirate it, you're gonna have to save up. 



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Posted 04 July 2014 - 09:32 PM

I'll try, and I might put Linux on the desktop because all it does anymore is run my server, and that uses almost all of its RAM even though the Processor can handle whatever I throw at it so far.


This is a Dell Latitude D830, and no it doesn't interfere with anything but it annoys me and it makes Minecraft lag every time it spikes.

 

Already have Process Explorer, and I found the four threads causing the Spikes....

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Also What do I do about the threads causing the Lag Spikes?   That's what this thread is about, you know..



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Posted 04 July 2014 - 10:38 PM

As RunningWolf stated in his reply, XP is dead and this issue could also be due to the lack of any updates from microsoft, otherwise just keep searching on google, usually there's answers on the microsoft website.   



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Posted 04 July 2014 - 10:40 PM

All right then, I guess I'll just do that...

 

I'm kind of leery of using Linux because Simply Installing a program is nearly impossible...



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Posted 04 July 2014 - 11:26 PM

And what is it with Windows XP and everybody being Butts to it?

Cause you're still using it in 2014.

 

Just because something was good for its time, doesn't mean it will be good forever.



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Posted 05 July 2014 - 12:04 AM

All right then, I guess I'll just do that...

 

I'm kind of leery of using Linux because Simply Installing a program is nearly impossible...

Not true.  Installing a program in Linux is as easy as hitting install.  if you'd rather do it manually, that's up to you, but I don't recommend it.  Most applications are either on the market place or are packaged in an install archive (.deb for Ubuntu based, .rpm for Fedora, .tar for general).  The few that are in a .tar archive only need to be extracted to any folder you want.  The only downside to that is that it doesn't automatically create a desktop entry for you, but it's easy enough to make one yourself.



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Posted 05 July 2014 - 03:42 AM

Actually, I'm leaning towards Linux now and I'm deciding to use it.

 

But there is one Problem.  My Laptop has Twi Partitions, a 30-something One and the Main one, 80 or something. [Gigabytes]

 

Linux is on the small Partition and Windows is on the big one, what shouls I do about all this?



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Posted 05 July 2014 - 04:13 AM

You can boot into a live USB, install gparted, and use that to edit your partitions. You may also need to reinstall grub. You can use the boot repair to do so.

Here's some links
https://help.ubuntu....mmunity/GParted
https://help.ubuntu....ity/Boot-Repair

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Posted 05 July 2014 - 04:20 AM

I already have a USB boot disk made, would that have it?


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Posted 05 July 2014 - 06:39 AM

Sadly, no.  You'll need to install them while in the live session.  It's easy enough to do and nothing will be permanently saved.

See the links in my post above.

 

Edit: It might have gparted, but it won't have boot-repair.

 

The recommended thing to do is backup, wipe, and reinstall.


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Posted 05 July 2014 - 07:54 PM

Polaris, I gave you a Windows 7 ISO a while back. I thought you had used it.



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Posted 05 July 2014 - 07:56 PM

I don't think he has a dvd burner, from what im getting

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Posted 05 July 2014 - 08:03 PM

Well, that would definitely cause a problem, and I've never managed to boot Windows off a USB, so I can't help him there.



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Posted 05 July 2014 - 10:11 PM

Ok ok no, the Laptop has a DVD drive, I have three blank CDRs and one blank CDRW, but it probably sounds dumb yet I don't want a pirated version of windows, I want a real one.

 

But I've been using it for a day and Linux doesn't seem to be all that bad....



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Posted 05 July 2014 - 10:29 PM

Half the time it seems like even on paid versions of Windows you can still get a WGA error with your registered or unregistered license key. I remember my XP had that for the longest time until I manually removed that crap from the registry. You're really not blowing Microsoft out of anything by not buying something from them. They have way more money than they probably need, you really need an upgrade, and they're not going to come hunting you down over it. Whether your choose to stay with Linux or go to W7, you need to upgrade to one or the other while you still have a computer that isn't a brick or potato and then you can buy a new computer with your lovely 'paid-for' windows on it or keep your Linux now if you like that.



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Posted 05 July 2014 - 10:45 PM

Actually, I've been on Linux for two days and I think I prefer it, but I'n worried about having my main OS on a 24 GB partition with a nearly useless 80 GB one just sitting there, and the resize thing doesn't seem to do anything.



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Posted 06 July 2014 - 05:08 AM

No offense, but Linux should only really be used by people who know what they're doing around computers. Given that you tried to kill Services.exe, I'm not sure that you fall into that category. Linux doesn't have as much built-in stupidity protection as Windows, so if you try to kill the wrong process or delete the wrong file you could screw up your computer permanently.



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Posted 06 July 2014 - 05:19 AM

While that is true, it's the ONLY way to break your system (in ordinary circumstances). If something goes wrong, it's something you did. As long as he stays in /home and doesn't install arbitrary software, he should be fine.

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 05:33 AM

Well of Course I knew Services.exe was important, I just killed to see what would happen because Windows is flexible like that, I'm not going to try something stupid like that on Linux.   But one problem is, Teamviewer can't control my desktop and I need to be able to get on Teamviewer and control it from afar, in case something bad happens to my server and it has to be fixed.   But All teamviewer tells me is that it cannot connect to my Desktop, is it because I have Linux trying to control Windows..?



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Posted 06 July 2014 - 06:26 AM

When it comes to Linux, I can't help you much, When I tried it, I had to fix a lot of things (the shutdown button) and I also found many programs were incompatible or ran too poorly to be used. You really need to know what you're doing to use Linux as your primary OS.As for Windows, if you choose to use the ISO I gave you, I can guide you through the steps on how to install Windows 7 without any authentication notices, provied that you can burn a DVD or mount it onto a bootable USB.



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Posted 06 July 2014 - 06:44 AM

Well I might put WIndows 7 on my DEsktop, and Linux Ubuntu is running suprisingly well on my Laptop, everything works great and even with the Problems that it does have, they're not as many as the ones XP was giving me.  But I might put WIndows on my Desktop so everything server Related works ok, it was hard enough getting the Client working in Linux, a server will be much harder.  Can an old Pentium D and such handle windows 7..?

 

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 07:52 AM

If you're just using team viewer on 2 pcs you own to control them over the network, there's much better programs you can use. Ubuntu comes with one that uses the UDP protocol, so you can use any program you want, even if it's a Mac.

If you want to do it over the internet, use chrome Remote Desktop.

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 07:57 AM

Yes, over the internet, thanks!  I feel a ton safer leaving the house when I know all I need to be able to check on my desktop is just a WiFi signal.

 

I'll reply again and say if it works.



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Posted 06 July 2014 - 08:17 AM

I suggest learning the basics of the terminal, then to start using ssh (secure shell) instead of Remote Desktop. In fact, you might start to feel comfortable enough to stop using the GUI (for the server). It's just a hog on resources and network when remoting, anyway.

This topic sure has gotten derailed, huh?

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 08:22 AM

I guess so, since I'm not even using Windows anymore, but it's easier than making a new topic.

 

But I kind of use old 2005 for the server and Skype when I'm home, Skype on Linux is a mess.

 

You know what, it's 4:22 AM, I can't think, I'll think out all this stuff tomorrow, Sorry about me leaving and all...



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Posted 06 July 2014 - 03:33 PM

A Pentium D is pretty dated, but it should handle Windows 7 well.

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 05:34 PM

Well all I have right now are three CDrs, can Win7 be installed on one of them?



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Posted 06 July 2014 - 05:35 PM

No, win 7 requires a DVD.

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 05:37 PM

Wonderful, I don't have a stinking Blank DVD-

 

Now for another Problem I have.  Is Windows 7 going to use a lot of RAM?  I need to use as little as possible....



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Posted 06 July 2014 - 08:49 PM

Ok, let me put out some stuff here, I'm stuck at a crossroads and I don't know what to do:

Option one:  Windows.   Windows XP is dead, so I'd move to Seven or whatever, but it's a lot of work with the validation and such, and I have two computers yet one copy of Windows 7 if I use it.  Also, Windows is one of the 'big two', and lots of stuff works with it.

 

Option Two: Linux.   Linux is Free, lots of its stuff is Free, and I actually Like it.  As long as it stays free, I'll be able to use it on every computer I own for years to come and I can Learn how to use it just as fast as I did with windows XP.  it is also extremely customizable and a lot more fun than windows.  The thing is, there's not as many Programs for Linux, and some things such as Skype don't work as well.

 

I'm just not sure...



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Posted 06 July 2014 - 11:23 PM

I did a report collating the differences between Windows 7 and Ubuntu when I was back at college. As far as I remember, Windows came out on top, but for what reasons, I forget. A point to make is that the Windows platform has more software available for it. Additionally, it makes use of DirectX when running high-end games that are built for the platform. If you're a gamer, Windows or Mac will be your preferred OS.

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 12:53 AM

What about if your PCs are both too weak to Play any games?  And Steam, that is better through Linux, isn't it? 



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 01:59 AM

Steam isn't any better or worse on linux. The only part that isn't on par with windows is the library.

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 02:11 AM

Here I thought Steam Preferred Linux....



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 06:20 AM

Ok, let me put out some stuff here, I'm stuck at a crossroads and I don't know what to do:

Option one:  Windows.   Windows XP is dead, so I'd move to Seven or whatever, but it's a lot of work with the validation and such, and I have two computers yet one copy of Windows 7 if I use it.  Also, Windows is one of the 'big two', and lots of stuff works with it.

 

Option Two: Linux.   Linux is Free, lots of its stuff is Free, and I actually Like it.  As long as it stays free, I'll be able to use it on every computer I own for years to come and I can Learn how to use it just as fast as I did with windows XP.  it is also extremely customizable and a lot more fun than windows.  The thing is, there's not as many Programs for Linux, and some things such as Skype don't work as well.

 

I'm just not sure...

 

Validation takes under 5 minutes and a click of literally one button. Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit should use a little less than 1GB of RAM (this is normal for 32 bit OSs)



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 07:17 AM

Ok, let me put out some stuff here, I'm stuck at a crossroads and I don't know what to do:

Option one:  Windows.   Windows XP is dead, so I'd move to Seven or whatever, but it's a lot of work with the validation and such, and I have two computers yet one copy of Windows 7 if I use it.  Also, Windows is one of the 'big two', and lots of stuff works with it.

 

Option Two: Linux.   Linux is Free, lots of its stuff is Free, and I actually Like it.  As long as it stays free, I'll be able to use it on every computer I own for years to come and I can Learn how to use it just as fast as I did with windows XP.  it is also extremely customizable and a lot more fun than windows.  The thing is, there's not as many Programs for Linux, and some things such as Skype don't work as well.

 

I'm just not sure...

Linux is free, and will allways be. For programs, Look at the software centre. You should find something that works.



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 03:31 PM

heck I have win 7 pro in a tower with near indentical specs as your tower, it works fine
also you can get a ISO to usb burning tool

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 05:38 PM

I'm just stuck between Linux and Windows....     I'm not sure anymore...



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Posted 08 July 2014 - 01:58 AM

If there's some sort of doubt in your mind that Linux isn't for you or if you can't decide between the two then pick Windows. Windows is easier to use without having to deal with more of the manual labor side of it and there's more software and hardware that is innately compatible with Windows without any extra effort on your part whatsoever. Linux is safe, free, and open source, but sometimes you have to either make something work or just accept that it won't work with Linux.

 

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 04:30 PM

I'm just stuck between Linux and Windows....     I'm not sure anymore...

 

I don't know if anyone mentioned this, it didn't look like anyone did but If you are unsure then what you need is a dual boot setup like what I have done, actually I now have 3 machines with the dual boot linux and windows combo and it is the best thing ever!

 

If you want to go this rout you must first install windows, why?  Because it is harder to set it up to actually work, you also might not load grub properly, I don't know really since I have never tried it this way and don't want to.  This setup will work with any version of windows, Linux doesn't care, I have a machine that is running Windows 2000 and Abuntu 8 I think, and it has been working like that since 2007.

 

When you install Windows partition only half of the drive if you are installing on the same drive(obviously)

 

Once you have a version of windows set up, download Linux Mint 13 http://www.linuxmint...ownload_all.php Maya version, you can either put it on a disc or a flash drive.

 

Go into your PC's bios and set the primary boot device to boot from what you have the Linux OS on.  Depending on the PC Linux may autimatically boot.

 

Once you have come to the point of selecting a partition the installer should give you the option of a dual boot with windows, which is what you will select then choose the vacant partition on the drive... I recommend you do some research just to understand how this works since It has been so long since I have done an install I can't remember the entire process and this is the one point you don't want to mess up on.

 

Is it worth it? Hell yus!  At first you might be confused by Linux but once you have set up your menu's and know where everything is I find it less confusing and more reliable than windows, it certainly doesn't have the annoying fluff that windows comes with and it runs Minecraft and MC edit very well!  Steam works ok... I have had a number of update issues with TF2 and Gmod but I suspect that Valve is still working out the bugs.

 

Make sure you keep Linux up to date, you will see a little shield with a blue icon on it in the menu bar(for me it is in the bottom left hand corner) when there are updates... if you don't install the updates often enough you can end up with one of the problems I am dealing with now where part of the archive manager is broken which for setting up mods and resource packs for minecraft means you have to know where those folders are since minecraft can no longer open it for you.  The only solution I could find was to do a re-install.

 

Now one more thing, you won't be able to access files on Linux from windows(it works the other way around) to do so you will need this: http://www.ext2fsd.com/

 

Phew, I hope this will be of help to you, this is the closest you will get to the best of both worlds Polaris, I definitely recommend you try it. xD



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Posted 08 July 2014 - 05:20 PM

I feel like a complete idiot right now, I have Windows XP and Linux Dualbooted on my Laptop already, all I need to do is Dualboot Linux and Windows 7 on the Desktop!  Buuut, I was leaning more towards Windows 7 but I don't have a DVD...



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Posted 09 July 2014 - 04:17 PM

Too bad you couldn't find a 64 bit copy of XP, that is what you really need, 32 bit XP barely scrapes by for playing minecraft on it seems, however I did find that one of my older desktop machines which has a P4 3.4Ghz and 3 gigs RAM seems to do really well for some reason... I have so many computers here, mainly because I used to find them on the side of the road.

 

Can you still buy copies of Windows 7?  Iv'e never checked, otherwise you would be stuck getting a copy of windows 8 which is damn expensive but apperently can be made to run better than win 7 after it has been stripped of all the silly touch friendly features it comes with.



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Posted 09 July 2014 - 04:24 PM

As much as I hate saying this, everyone was right about XP.   Windows XP is one of, if not the best OS Microsoft has ever put out, but it's old.  It's dying rapidly, and I can't let myself be dragged down with it.  So for the Laptop I have turned to Linux, and I think I'll put 7 on the desktop, I just need help figuring out how....



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Posted 09 July 2014 - 07:47 PM

That is a good choice, just put the Linux installer on a disc or a flash drive, I can't remember how to do this but google should have the answer, then just partition the entire drive on your laptop for linux.

 

You would still need a win 7 disc for the desktop machine if you are going to do a reinstall, I would just borrow a disc from some one and reinstall it using the key that should be on the side of the machine if it came with win 7 installed.

 

Beyond that I don't have much other advice to give you.



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Posted 09 July 2014 - 07:54 PM

Anyways, here's the ISO file, it's a 32-bit unviersal install, so you should be able to pick the version of windows 7 you want.

https://mega.co.nz/#...kIAfYyLSlQ8n2HY

 

Use this program to burn it to a DVD or create a bootable USB

http://www.microsoft...ol#installation

 

Use this to crack Windows so it doesn't bug you about being genuine

http://forums.mydigi...Loader-Download

 

Basically, burn a DVD (it will not fit onto a normal CD) using the tool I linked, and then install it the same way you installed SP3, If you don't have DVDs or a DVD burner, you can try and use a USB stick, but make sure to back up any data on it before putting the ISO on, and change your boot order so you boot from USBHDD. if you want you can make a new partition to do a test install. During initial setup, it should ask you which version of Windows 7 to install. You must choose Windows 7 Ultimate for Windows Loader to work. Once Windows 7 is installed, run Windows Loader to crack it. If you do it correctly, you shouldn't have any issues. As of this moment, Microsoft has not yet released any patch that blocks Windows Loader.


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Posted 09 July 2014 - 08:56 PM

Looks like I've got to get my hands on a blank DVD then....



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Posted 09 July 2014 - 10:18 PM

It's possible to install via a USB. It's much faster and I recommend it. You just need to format to FAT32, extract the ISO to it, and mark as bootable so you can boot from it.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 10:44 PM

Well dang boi I might just do that when I get home, I just hope it doesn't take too long because [not advertising] My server will be down as long as I'm installing Windows and it has to be done as fast as possible


Also, if I have one IDE HDD in the PC and one SATA drive, can I install Windows 7 on the IDE drive and leave Windows XP [SATA] alone in case I need it as a backup?



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Posted 09 July 2014 - 11:13 PM

Yes. The installer will detect an older version of windows and add it to the boot loader.

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 01:55 AM

Hmm I'm just not sure when I should do this, and what if all of it fails?



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Posted 10 July 2014 - 02:16 AM

If the install fails, it will attempt to restore what you had as long as you didn't wipe your drive beforehand.



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Posted 10 July 2014 - 02:26 AM

Hmm, I'll try it someday soon then....




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