MC 1.7.X compatability
#1
Posted 16 February 2014 - 10:02 PM
Again, there is no guarantee this may work, so please do not get upset if it does not.
#2
Posted 16 February 2014 - 10:38 PM
Per chance, are you referring to OpenGL compatibility, or is this a separate limitation?
#3
Posted 16 February 2014 - 10:43 PM
Per chance, are you referring to OpenGL compatibility, or is this a separate limitation?
i think he means OpenGL compatibility
Edited by MarcusMario3, 16 February 2014 - 10:43 PM.
#4
Posted 16 February 2014 - 10:45 PM
Don't limit your tests to just Windows. Its a long shot, but Lubuntu with proprietary drivers may be able to run it better than windows can.
#5
Posted 16 February 2014 - 10:45 PM
i think he means OpenGL compatibility
If so, then the only real solution is a hardware upgrade*, though I suspect this isn't the problem he is referring to.
*To my knowledge, there is no way to fake support for hardware-based libraries, but I could be wrong.
Edited by Reverie, 16 February 2014 - 10:50 PM.
#6
Posted 16 February 2014 - 10:59 PM
#7
Posted 16 February 2014 - 11:45 PM
Ah, so this is dealing with the OpenGL switch. I wish you good luck! While I can't speak for Linux, I don't advise messing with the opengl32 library provided for windows. Your best bet is probably snatching newer drivers and trying to force compatibility (a decompiler may be in order), which would be unstable at best.
Fair warning: any home-brew libraries will probably only work with one card.
Here are the corresponding lists of library support dates, if this is at all useful for driver acquisition:
Edited by Reverie, 16 February 2014 - 11:53 PM.
#8
Posted 16 February 2014 - 11:57 PM
#9
Posted 17 February 2014 - 01:50 AM
Well, I'm one of the ponies he's trying to help, because old 2003 cannot run 1.7
#10
Posted 17 February 2014 - 06:14 PM
#11
Posted 17 February 2014 - 06:22 PM
The best solution I can think of right now is to wait and hope either 1.8 or 1.9 will find a way to fix this.
Until then the only other solution there is would be for the server to be:
1. Ported onto a different server compatible with 1.6
2. put the sever back on 1.6
So until char masters the art of opengl, or mojang fixes it themselves, Idk what else can be done.
#12
Posted 17 February 2014 - 06:33 PM
Well, people could upgrade PCs, You can get a DirectX11/GL 4.3 entry GPU for like 35$, given your entire system is not in a pre-2005 condition, in which case I'll quote Intel on the reccommended maximal usage of a personal computer being 7 years at best, but people often shoot that near 4-5 or less.
As for bugging the OpenGL that runs minecraft and that regarding older GPUs? Drivers do matter a lot as the HD 5570 went from OpenGL 3.2 to 4.3 in the past 3 years.
Edited by Harakhti, 17 February 2014 - 06:34 PM.
#13
Posted 17 February 2014 - 07:24 PM
Well, people could upgrade PCs, You can get a DirectX11/GL 4.3 entry GPU for like 35$, given your entire system is not in a pre-2005 condition, in which case I'll quote Intel on the reccommended maximal usage of a personal computer being 7 years at best, but people often shoot that near 4-5 or less.
As for bugging the OpenGL that runs minecraft and that regarding older GPUs? Drivers do matter a lot as the HD 5570 went from OpenGL 3.2 to 4.3 in the past 3 years.
Polaris has an Athlon XP 3200+ on a board with an AGP slot. He's not getting a modern GPU any time soon. His best bet would be to chuck the whole thing and spend $250 (USD) or so and build a Minecraft rig.
That said, I still commend Captain_Char for going out of his way to try and circumvent a hardware issue for (pretty much) one person on this server.
#14
Posted 17 February 2014 - 08:32 PM
Why not go back to 1.6.4 where we actually have a functioning modpack
#15
Posted 17 February 2014 - 08:42 PM
[...] His best bet would be to chuck the whole thing [...]
I did say it only applies to pre-2005 systems, so yes, that thing belongs to a museum.
#16
Posted 17 February 2014 - 08:50 PM
Why not go back to 1.6.4 where we actually have a functioning modpack
It's been 4 months, and the builders decided to update. Sometimes you just have to deal with stuff you don't like.
Anyways, we're getting off-topic here. The next thing we should do is wait and see if Captain Char can make a fix for the compatibility problems.
Edited by Laser_Lens_4, 17 February 2014 - 08:51 PM.
#17
Posted 17 February 2014 - 09:26 PM
Ehh I've accepted my Fate, as horrible as it is- I'm used to these types of things happening to me, nothing good stays for long. Anyway, where's the Download for Range8 [1.6.4 compatible version] so I can at least mess around in PolariSoft again?
#18
Posted 17 February 2014 - 09:38 PM
Ehh I've accepted my Fate, as horrible as it is- I'm used to these types of things happening to me, nothing good stays for long. Anyway, where's the Download for Range8 [1.6.4 compatible version] so I can at least mess around in PolariSoft again?
all backups are located here http://www.brohoof.com/backups/
#19
Posted 17 February 2014 - 09:48 PM
Ok wait what exactly do I do with that file I downloaded...?
Edited by Prince Polaris, 17 February 2014 - 09:57 PM.
#20
Posted 17 February 2014 - 10:20 PM
#21
Posted 19 February 2014 - 06:31 AM
#22
Posted 19 February 2014 - 09:11 AM
Well, you had the guts to try and help out all the ponies with older computers, even if it meant severe brain-drain and head scratching.
That's got to say something in itself ![]()
#23
Posted 03 March 2014 - 08:38 PM
Yeah I'm just hoping the Computer that I'm supposed to get tomorrow is either 1, able to run 1.7, or 2, has the right slot for a Graphics card, and if #2 is the case, you all will see a "Finally time to get a Graphics card" thread here soon.
#24
Posted 03 March 2014 - 10:37 PM
#25
Posted 21 March 2014 - 07:31 AM
Java 8 got released earlier. Has this improved the performance of Minecraft at all?
#26
Posted 21 March 2014 - 10:33 AM
according to Dinnerbone.... yesJava 8 got released earlier. Has this improved the performance of Minecraft at all?
#27
Posted 21 March 2014 - 06:12 PM
#28
Posted 21 March 2014 - 07:29 PM
I keep glancing at the "no such file" error under OSX.
E: Which either works or not if you manually specify its place. OK.
Edited by Harakhti, 21 March 2014 - 07:33 PM.
#29
Posted 22 March 2014 - 01:51 AM
So, how do you find Java 8? It doesn't seem to be on their download list. Is this even available yet? The latest I see is J7U51
#30
Posted 22 March 2014 - 03:05 AM
Here's an installation guide.
http://docs.oracle.c...l_overview.html
Release notes.
http://www.oracle.co...st-2153846.html
#31
Posted 22 March 2014 - 04:08 AM
As opposed to a smaller patch, this is a full release- that means mostly features. I would expect little to no change in performance unless Minecraft is re-written to use new library features. From what I see, the release notes indicate that the only notable changes to pre-existing code are changes to hash-maps (phonebook-esque* data structures) and reflection(code that can view/modify itself)- the rest is new features.
#32
Posted 22 March 2014 - 03:48 PM
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