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#1 Prince Polaris

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 08:26 PM

Well guys I finally got my Computer, and you can see the Specifics here. 

Now the guy who gave it to me, he completely Formatted the Hard Drive, and Windows is not on it any longer.

I have the Dell windows reinstallation disc, but it refuses to work, even though the Drivers and Utilities disc does.

When I try to use the Windows Disc, it tells me "No boot device available- strike F1 to retry boot, F2 for setup utility".

Here are pictures of the Two discs and the Screen:

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 08:33 PM

Maybe the cd drive is broken, that looks ancient.



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 08:34 PM

No, because the Blue Disc works perfectly fine.



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 08:35 PM

Maybe Squint is willing you to never use a computer again.



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 09:08 PM

Try re-setting BIOS to default.



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 09:13 PM

All right, how do I do that?



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 09:19 PM

F2 on a dell, and that should bring up the bios, make sure the CD rom is the first boot device on the boot list, also what model is the machine? number is on the front of the case on dells, or name type eg Dell Insperion 2400 etc etc

Edited by Captain Char, 12 March 2014 - 09:21 PM.


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Posted 12 March 2014 - 09:25 PM

NEVERMIND I PUT IN A DIFFERENT DVD DRIVE AND IT WORKS NOW

 

I'll tell you all in a bit if it worked!


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Posted 12 March 2014 - 09:25 PM

one was set as the boot device then

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 09:33 PM

...Well...You're two years ahead of the previous one now. Steady progress.



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 09:46 PM

next thing id like to know is what is the video card slot type :P

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 11:40 PM

Urgh it's a giant Pain in the Flank to update this dumb thing, why does Windows xp have to be so old



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Posted 13 March 2014 - 12:14 AM

cause it is, you'll need SP1 2 and 3 basically to make anything work

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 03:24 AM

And here I am, after completely dismantling old 2003 and putting its HDD inside of the new PC as a sort of backup, I guess- but the issue is that I can't update this dumb thing to SP3, AND I'M TRAPPED WITH ONLY INTERNET EXPLORER SIX, NOT EVEN BROHOOF IS SAFE FROM ITS HORRIFFIC TERROR!

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 04:01 AM

you can just go and google windows xp SP3 offline installer polaris

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 05:09 AM

la la la

http://www.microsoft...ails.aspx?id=24



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Posted 13 March 2014 - 06:05 AM

I think it's time to buy a new computer.



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Posted 13 March 2014 - 07:54 AM

I agree with Tsar on this one.  WinXP is going to become plauged with problems as its support has pretty much died off from Microsoft and 3rd party vendors.  Upgrading the OS is not really an option since it barely meets minimum requirements for anything past WinXP.  I would invest zero monies and time into that machine, for what you're wanting to do with it.  The price for upgrading that machine would basically cost more than a modern, refurbished machine.  See below if you want to live dangerous.

 

Spoiler

Edited by waffels, 13 March 2014 - 08:04 AM.


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 08:00 AM

Also, I hate to break it to you, but:

 

http://windows.micro...nd-support-help

 

You really don't want to be running Windows XP after April 8th.



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Posted 13 March 2014 - 09:54 AM

Maybe switch to Ubuntu if you don't have monies for a new machine, I'm sure your machine will run it as the only real system requirement is enough space to install it. You can even run it from a usb stick in evaluation mode so you can see if you like it before installing.

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 10:46 AM

Well apparrently, all that's going to happen after April 8th is that new stuff isn't going to work with windows xp. Just like how you don't see "Windows 98 compatible" on so much as ONE thing at wal-mart.
But I'll see what I can possibly do about getting a newer copy of windows...

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 11:30 AM

Well apparrently, all that's going to happen after April 8th is that new stuff isn't going to work with windows xp. Just like how you don't see "Windows 98 compatible" on so much as ONE thing at wal-mart.
But I'll see what I can possibly do about getting a newer copy of windows...

Like Limey said on the last page, try something like Ubuntu, the only real issue with Linux I've ever heard or seen, is the lack of mainstream game titles, and with a computer that's still trying to run Windows XP, I doubt you'll really be able to play any of those titles. If you're going to buy windows, you might as well try and find a better PC with windows installed already.



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Posted 13 March 2014 - 01:09 PM

You can run loads of cool games on Ubuntu, sometimes you need to tweak some settings but I used to play Sims 3 and Diablo 3 all the time on my pc (infact it was Diablo 3 that killed it). I've even heard people are running DayZ stand alone. I'm assuming with the age of the system Polaris is mostly interested in minecraft which will work on ubuntu but I never played modded minecraft so I don't know what the support is like.

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 02:07 PM

I for one, think this machine will do for now, its not like you have a big budget Polaris, no offense. but you make due with what you can get, I understand that

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 03:00 PM

If you go the Linux route, Ubuntu Desktop should work on your system.  Your machine meets the minimum requirements.

https://help.ubuntu....temRequirements

 

However, if Ubuntu responds too slow, I would suggest using Lubuntu.  Its a minimal version of Ubuntu and has a lower resource requirement.  I currently use it for my Intel Atom setup that only has 2GB of RAM.

http://lubuntu.net/



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Posted 13 March 2014 - 03:47 PM

I never knew of lubuntu, I may use that for my older machines as the XP replacement, also Polaris, if you get the chance, do find out if you CPU is a 32bit or 64bit, from what ive read on the tech manual for your machine, its a 64bit, which means you could get a little more out of it using a 64-bit OS. but without validation that's as good as null

Edited by Captain Char, 13 March 2014 - 03:48 PM.


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 04:07 PM

Just to add to Char's note, the 64-bit version of Windows XP does NOT qualify. It's a horrible jury-rig that's not even supported by Microsoft properly.



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Posted 13 March 2014 - 04:47 PM

You can run loads of cool games on Ubuntu, sometimes you need to tweak some settings but I used to play Sims 3 and Diablo 3 all the time on my pc (infact it was Diablo 3 that killed it). I've even heard people are running DayZ stand alone. I'm assuming with the age of the system Polaris is mostly interested in minecraft which will work on ubuntu but I never played modded minecraft so I don't know what the support is like.

Assuming your still talking about mine craft with the mention of mods, literally all of the mods are supported, it's just the way they work, I always run MineLP on my school mac, and it works as fine as my PC. And the mass majority of games (Sadly) don't work on it from what I've noticed, Some titles like Battlefield, CoD, and most importantly, Warframe. (I may be wrong about Warframe support) You could run Wine, but it just adds another layer of fluff to trying to play a game, and my pc is already slow enough running Warframe. This is the only real reason that's held me back from switching, although this is all bound to change with SteamOS soon, hell, even EA might drop origin just to get some of the extra cash from steam boxes.



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Posted 13 March 2014 - 05:04 PM

I was referring to a 64bit Ubuntu or lubuntu, if you got a 64-bit CPU, might as well take advantage of it, just my opinion

Edited by Captain Char, 13 March 2014 - 05:05 PM.


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 06:59 PM

even EA might drop origin just to get some of the extra cash from steam boxes.

 

I doubt they would drop Origin completely but Gabe did say he was 'fine' with EA putting Origin on steam machines.

 

There is a way to run warframe but it does require Wine so Lubuntu might be a really good option for you if your system runs slow like waffels suggested, here is a video about getting warframe working there is a step by step guide in the description.

 

/back on topic

The system Polaris linked only has 1Gig of ram so 64bit OS isn't really necessary.



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Posted 13 March 2014 - 07:57 PM

Well guys, after a lot of work, I have SP3 on the computer, Firefox is up and working, [SUCK ON THAT, IE6!], and I even have Old 2003's HDD inside of the new one, so I have all of my old stuff!

I'm going out to Ocean City tomorrow morning, so I can worry more about this when I get back, but I think Windows xp and this Desktop will be fine until Christmas, when I plan on throwing a fit Asking for a nice Laptop.



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Posted 13 March 2014 - 08:03 PM

ah well its still good news Polaris

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 08:30 PM

Yep, time to test Minecraft!



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Posted 14 March 2014 - 01:57 AM

Well guys, after a lot of work, I have SP3 on the computer, Firefox is up and working, [SUCK ON THAT, IE6!], and I even have Old 2003's HDD inside of the new one, so I have all of my old stuff!

I'm going out to Ocean City tomorrow morning, so I can worry more about this when I get back, but I think Windows xp and this Desktop will be fine until Christmas, when I plan on throwing a fit Asking for a nice Laptop.

 

Some things to keep in mind.

 

1. Pentium D is newer than Pentium 4. I ran Windows 7 on a Pentium 4, so you should be able to run Win7. As I have said before, I can get you a copy.

2. You really don't want to be running XP after April 8th. All it'll take is for some nut to reverse-engineer the final update and start attacking the OS.(IE, your computer that you rely on every single day nad don't have another one to use if it goes down).

3. As we discussed, your Radeon x600's OpenGL compliance is 2.0, and you need 2.1. With that in mind, still try to run 1.7.



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Posted 14 March 2014 - 02:29 AM

Some things to keep in mind.

 

1. Pentium D is newer than Pentium 4. I ran Windows 7 on a Pentium 4, so you should be able to run Win7. As I have said before, I can get you a copy.

2. You really don't want to be running XP after April 8th. All it'll take is for some nut to reverse-engineer the final update and start attacking the OS.(IE, your computer that you rely on every single day nad don't have another one to use if it goes down).

3. As we discussed, your Radeon x600's OpenGL compliance is 2.0, and you need 2.1. With that in mind, still try to run 1.7.

1: I know, but I'm completely sick of Performing Windows Installs....

2: I'll be turning off Automatic Updates after April 8th, so I'll not update so much as ONE thing after then, in terms of the OS.

3: 1.7.2: Main Menu works fine, the game itself does not

    1.7.4: Laggy Main Menu, Still no Working Game

    1.7.5 Have not tried yet, not sure if it's even worth a shot.



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Posted 14 March 2014 - 02:53 AM

 

2: I'll be turning off Automatic Updates after April 8th, so I'll not update so much as ONE thing after then, in terms of the OS.

 

 

It won't matter if you turn them on or off. After April 8th, you won't get any help or updates from Microsoft, and then it's only a matter of time before XP satrts getting attacked.



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Posted 14 March 2014 - 03:10 AM

Well, what should I be looking for, then?

I'll just have to watch for anythng suspicious, and hope Avira doesn't abandon me.



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Posted 14 March 2014 - 03:44 AM

Chances are you won't be able to know until it's too late. Check your PMs, I've replied to you regarding your last message.



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Posted 14 March 2014 - 04:12 PM

I am curious Polaris, do you know how much ram you have in that machine?

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 06:02 PM

It lists the amount as 1 GB in the specs.

Since it's a 32-bit machine that should be just barely enough.

http://windows.micro...em-requirements

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 05:49 AM

I am curious Polaris, do you know how much ram you have in that machine?

he has communicated he has 2 slots left, seeing the board has 4 slots, there are 2 512 MB sticks in there.  

also his system is upgradable to 4GB



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Posted 15 March 2014 - 05:56 AM

he has communicated he has 2 slots left, seeing the board has 4 slots, there are 2 512 MB sticks in there.  

also his system is upgradable to 4GB

4GB of DDR2 would cost at least $60, if not more.



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Posted 15 March 2014 - 03:12 PM

that's it? it cost me 130$ just to upgrade my ddr3 from4gb to 8gb

so he'd need 2 2gb sticks, I think I got those laying around

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 05:31 PM

I have so much ddr2 laying around its not funny.... If I was in the us... I would gladly post you some...xD on that note I hope things inprove

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Posted 18 March 2014 - 12:49 AM

Yeah, all of you are right, but doesn't 32 bit Versions of Windows only Support a Maximum of 2GB of RAM?

Even if I can put Four n it, won't it access only Two?



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Posted 18 March 2014 - 01:09 AM

32bit will accept ~ 4gb.

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Posted 18 March 2014 - 01:14 AM

that's it? it cost me 130$ just to upgrade my ddr3 from4gb to 8gb

Either you bought crazy expensive RAM, or you overpaid 8GB of ram is around like $90.

 

 

32bit will accept ~ 4gb.

Yeah, 32bit can accept somewhere around 4Gb



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Posted 18 March 2014 - 03:30 AM

>32-bit machines accept 4 gibibytes (4096 bytes) of memory.

 

>I bought 8GB DDR3 RAM for $50 (USD)




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