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#1 Ratty

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Posted 10 October 2015 - 05:22 PM

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#2 Mystic

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Posted 10 October 2015 - 06:47 PM

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#3 ZeBraffels

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Posted 10 October 2015 - 07:02 PM

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Posted 10 October 2015 - 07:30 PM

2 songs in 5 minutes? JESUS



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Posted 10 October 2015 - 07:32 PM

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Posted 10 October 2015 - 08:38 PM

uh, so the cmc now have cutie marks, and Diamond is friends with them now... alright then



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Posted 10 October 2015 - 09:12 PM

This episode is why I love MLP. The last 4 have been awful, but this one goes back to what makes the show great.

I don't like the designs of the cutie marks though.

 

So I guess AJ's parents being dead is now canon.

 

Also, the first thing that jumped to mind was "Pip Sanders and Diamond Trump."



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Posted 10 October 2015 - 09:22 PM

I don't like how they're all the same, but I guess it's not going to change since they made it so dramatic at the end? Please Starlight Glimmer, be behind this!

#9 FCtheHalfDragon

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Posted 10 October 2015 - 09:55 PM

Now we know the reason why Diamond Tiara was such a jerk, it was her mother's fault.  This episode just blew my mind with 1) redeeming Diamond Tiara, 2) the CMC getting their cutie marks, and 3) tying with "Magical Mystery Cure" with the amount of singing in it.



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Posted 10 October 2015 - 09:56 PM

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Posted 11 October 2015 - 01:13 AM

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Posted 11 October 2015 - 01:52 AM

I am actually crying omg

 

My babies, they're practically grown up 

 

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I'm so happy



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Posted 11 October 2015 - 02:15 AM

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Damn, Now I wish I didnt look in this thread before I saw the episode.

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Posted 11 October 2015 - 02:17 AM

This episode is why I love MLP. The last 4 have been awful, but this one goes back to what makes the show great.

I don't like the designs of the cutie marks though.

 

So I guess AJ's parents being dead is now canon.

 

Also, the first thing that jumped to mind was "Pip Sanders and Diamond Trump."

sums up my thoughts.

 

If this was the last episode ever, i'd  be okay with it. It was a beautiful end, really

And it pretty much sports the REAL meaning of MLP. it was good. i enjoyed it, even with my audible cringing at tiara reforming... bullies don't turn THAT easy, that's why the show sorta annoys me :P

 

 

Now we know the reason why Diamond Tiara was such a jerk, it was her mother's fault.  This episode just blew my mind with 1) redeeming Diamond Tiara, 2) the CMC getting their cutie marks, and 3) tying with "Magical Mystery Cure" with the amount of singing in it.

It's normally for that reason that bullies are bullies. Their family life is bad, much like Tiara's. They haven't any love D:

 

 

Damn, Now I wish I didnt look in this thread before I saw the episode.

same :I


Edited by Scii, 11 October 2015 - 02:18 AM.


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Posted 11 October 2015 - 02:33 AM

Well, they gotta compress it all down to 22 minutes. This is why we need a MLP movie (not horse women.)

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Posted 11 October 2015 - 08:06 AM

I'm going to say this right now. I'm halfway through this episode. But after seeing her mother treat Diamond Tiara that way. It blew me straight back to when I was a kid. It reminded me of my worst bully. I hated him a lot for the things he did. But one day, after all of that bullying, I saw how his dad treated him while picking him up one day. After that, I felt sorry for him. My jaw has officially dropped. And this has become my favorite episode. Just because of how it hit me.

After:
Alright, I finished the episode. It still stands as my favorite. Tirek's battle now comes in second. I'm so proud of Scoots! *Sniff!* She's growing up!


Edited by Brush Stroke, 11 October 2015 - 06:27 PM.


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Posted 11 October 2015 - 06:37 PM

My favorite reaction to this episode is DYWTBA_Brony's reaction to the end.



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Posted 12 October 2015 - 12:03 AM

Hold up, I just looked back through the episode and Derpy was wearing brown Mail-pony attire.  Did she become a Mail-pony?  If so, it looks like those headcannons have come true.


Edited by FCtheHalfDragon, 12 October 2015 - 12:03 AM.


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Posted 12 October 2015 - 02:04 AM

There could be other defective ponies, she doesn't have to be the only one.

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 03:40 AM

Hold up, I just looked back through the episode and Derpy was wearing brown Mail-pony attire.  Did she become a Mail-pony?  If so, it looks like those headcannons have come true.

 

This would make sense after what happened in Episode 100. She did kinda mess the whole wedding schedule up. And sort of send the entire town into a panic that only Vinyl and Octavia could save them from. So maybe she got fired and is a mail pony now?

 

((The bug bear added fuel to the panic))


Edited by Brush Stroke, 12 October 2015 - 03:43 AM.


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Posted 12 October 2015 - 09:14 AM

This episode was the worst written laziest piece of tripe since Slice of Life.

There was so little pacing that it made DT look like she was freaking Bi-Polar.

Pushing her attitude off on her mom is the laziest most incompetent way to redeem a bully character. In her song she even uses the cliche "It's not my fault no one showed me how to act" even though her father reprimanded her bad behavior when he caught her in the act.

The songs were grating and irritating and were an even lazier attempt at forming some kind of plot for a character that has never once been sympathetic. DT has never been repentant without her father shoving her into apologizing.

The fact that at the start of the episode Cheerilee literally watches DT bully the students and says jack and shit the same when a full grown adult starts in with that shit because she's such a great teacher she doesn't even give a rat's ass when her students are being bullied.

 

DT's mom in and of herself was the biggest and most annoying cliche of the whole damn show. The snooty rich racist yes that's such an original idea and it's  more forceful with its attempt at sympathy that it reminded me of the shitty emotional manipulation of Snowdrop.

The CMC's "destiny" was suddenly decided despite this being the first time they helped someone realize their destiny even if that person already had their cutiemark and couldn't have gotten it without already knowing their destiny and special talent but didn't know it so the writers would have a plot all of the sudden.

Their cutiemarks are copy and pasted pieces of crap made out of random clipart to make them "different" such a far cry from the individual cutiemarks applying to ponies but y'know what can I expect out of the writers of this show after episodes like Slice of Life.



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Posted 12 October 2015 - 11:33 AM

*looking at Arella with sheer anger*  watch what you say, sometimes being a total jerk about things isn't okay.



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Posted 12 October 2015 - 12:21 PM

The CMC's "destiny" was suddenly decided despite this being the first time they helped someone realize their destiny even if that person already had their cutiemark and couldn't have gotten it without already knowing their destiny and special talent but didn't know it so the writers would have a plot all of the sudden.

Their cutiemarks are copy and pasted pieces of crap made out of random clipart to make them "different" such a far cry from the individual cutiemarks applying to ponies but y'know what can I expect out of the writers of this show after episodes like Slice of Life.


Why I still hope that Starlight Glimmer might have meddled in these events.

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 04:13 PM

The fact that at the start of the episode Cheerilee literally watches DT bully the students and says jack and shit the same when a full grown adult starts in with that shit because she's such a great teacher she doesn't even give a rat's ass when her students are being bullied.

 

DT's mom in and of herself was the biggest and most annoying cliche of the whole damn show. The snooty rich racist yes that's such an original idea and it's  more forceful with its attempt at sympathy that it reminded me of the shitty emotional manipulation of Snowdrop.
 

I find this image best explains it.

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 04:23 PM

I find this image best explains it.

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Oh that is just bullcrap. That is the biggest piece of crap excuse ever. She's the only teacher in town as far as been shown which means she can't be fired because it would take a helluva lot more to hire a new teacher. Then that expression isn't sad or concerned DT's is sad the other fillies have concerned looks. Cheerilee's is just meh lookit tht a pony bein a bitch. There is absolutely no excuse for a teacher not protecting her students from abuse it doesn't fucking matter who the person doing the abusing is.

What a wonderful message for kids "It doesn't matter what you do kids everyone can be abusive towards you and there is no one who can and no one who will do anything to help you" bonus to the future teachers "If a rich person abuses your future students there's nothing you can do you can't tell that person to leave you can't do anything because reasons"

 

 

*looking at Arella with sheer anger*  watch what you say, sometimes being a total jerk about things isn't okay.

Its a critique I'm not going to bathe this show with praise it doesn't deserve because it has ponies. You can be angry at me all you want but I'm not going to hold back because someone disagrees with my opinion.



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Posted 12 October 2015 - 05:03 PM

I think this might have been the episode that killed my last shred of interest in MLP.

 

Between this and Brotherhooves Social, I'm convinced the staff has their heads up their asses and are either out of ideas or didn't plan this season out at all from the start. At least the recent Rarity episodes were good, even if they were treading old ground. This was just one of the most anti-climactic, horribly-paced train wrecks I've had to sit through. 

 

At least boring episodes were just that. Boring. I could walk away from those with a meh and expect better from the next one. This one on the other hand...geez. I kind of don't even wanna bother watching the rest of the season. I don't have any real expectations for it anymore.  

I could barely believe how fickle DT's unstable characterization was played off as if we'd been sympathetic with her the whole time she's been a total and complete twat with zero remorse, never mind the painfully uninspired copy-paste cutie marks. I mean, okay. The idea was that they each worked together as a team to do the thing. They could have just as easily gotten that point by by creating unique and meaningful cutie marks that had some subtle theme in common without LITERALLY USING THE SAME THING THREE TIMES WITH A SLIGHT DETAIL CHANGE.

 

God. Someone please let me know if this all ends up being some food-and-sleep-deprivation hallucination brought on by the Mane Six being locked away back in that shed in Our Town...all of them fantasizing the events of this entire season and living vicariously through their hopes, dreams and the eyes of their friends and family who haven't seen them in weeks. 



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Posted 12 October 2015 - 05:20 PM

I kinda wish this show ends, and not by making the last season like a cliffhanger. An ending with the mane 6 grow up, solve the problems of Eq and live normal lives. It feels like the writers of this show don't even try anymore. The MLP comic writers have way better stories than this.

The cmc's CM were a big deal and they just shat on it. Seriously they could have made this something better than a copy/paste of the same thing.


Edited by hxfthxft, 12 October 2015 - 05:22 PM.


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Posted 12 October 2015 - 05:48 PM

Now I think about it, yeah, the whole story of this episode was crappy. The songs were great though. :>



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Posted 12 October 2015 - 10:21 PM

Also scoot sucks

 

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 11:03 PM

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Posted 13 October 2015 - 12:28 AM

Call me crazy. But I'm sensing a mean curve ball later.



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Posted 13 October 2015 - 12:50 AM

I kind of hope they end the series too, it seems like Hasbro is bored with the pony franchise. I mean how many EQG movies have their been, compared to MLP's zero? By the time the first gen4 MLP movie comes out, how many fans will still be around?
I wonder what the plot of the movie will be anyway, more of the same "villain threatens the world, the mane 6 combines powers and shoots a big rainbow to defeat them"? I'm not saying that is that bad of a story, but we've seen it already, are they not allowed to be creative? I wonder if writing for a big stupid bureaucratic corporation is really hard to make anything good for? I realize the show (and upcoming movie) has to be appealing to kids, but Lauren Faust proved you can make things good for all ages. Being appealing to little girls doesn't mean it has to be all tea parties and bad writing.

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Posted 14 October 2015 - 02:28 AM

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Posted 14 October 2015 - 08:06 AM

Whelp, might as well give my thoughts as well...

 

To be honest I really don't know what I can say without painting my self into a corner. what is there to say really? Shoehorned villain redemption, boring and matching cutie marks we've waited 5 FRICKIN seasons for, and to top it off enough songs to rival MMC.

 

Now don't get me wrong I still like watching MLP. Every time I seat myself down and watch the newest episode I don't think "that was bad" or "it could've been better". No! I just watch my pony, look at reviews and stuff and feel sad when I find out some people are just way to critical of something.

 

But I fear this episode may have changed me. For once I think I actually don't like an episode. I'm scared guys. This episode may have turned me into a cynical asshole. I'll still keep watching pony but....Please make it better then what I just saw. Don't drag me further down the rabbit hole. I want to keep enjoying MLP and not start looking for every single flaw I can find.

 

I mean seriously 5 songs...6 if you count the reprisal at the end of it. Granted I did like MMC, but back then I was a bit younger and not as much of a cynical asshole as I am today. Please don't make me stop liking MLP dear writers. Pleeeeeeeeease......



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Posted 14 October 2015 - 01:40 PM

Don't worry about it, if you don't enjoy the show then go switch to comics. You may find their stories better. For me this was a bad episode but that won't make me stop watch the show. I still want to see the end story



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Posted 14 October 2015 - 01:59 PM

my mind broke when i watched it



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Posted 14 October 2015 - 05:24 PM

I do like that the animation team is trying really hard... the expressions this season have been fantastic... but the writing and some of the direction behind it needs a slap upside the head. e.o;


Edited by Defective, 14 October 2015 - 05:25 PM.


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Posted 14 October 2015 - 05:42 PM

It doesn't seem that much different to other "redeeming" episodes. It still follows the same formula: they're an asshole, you find out their motivation, the woerd exploit it like crazy, you feel sorry for the antagonist, and finally the antagonist turns good.

I still think the CMC's cutie marks are stupid though.

Edited by Luna Lens, 14 October 2015 - 05:43 PM.


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Posted 14 October 2015 - 06:00 PM

Hold up, I just looked back through the episode and Derpy was wearing brown Mail-pony attire.  Did she become a Mail-pony?  If so, it looks like those headcannons have come true.

It wasn't really a headcanon considering one of her first appearances showed her dropping a package by mistake while other workers looked miffed at her.


Edited by Blazuhira Miller, 14 October 2015 - 06:01 PM.


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Posted 19 October 2015 - 03:57 AM

Package? She dropped a freaking piano on Twilight, and the weird truck looked more like a moving truck, so maybe she was temporarily working for a moving company at the time then.

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Posted 02 November 2015 - 06:59 PM

Nah I changed my mind again, I really liked this episode. The cutie marks are adorable and reinforce the fact that the CMC all compliment each other so well and also means they can go on crusading as long as they want, although for a different reason.




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