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#1 Prince Polaris

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Posted 01 January 2014 - 05:29 PM

This is quite simple, and I hope you can help:
I followed all of the steps stated in this site right here:

http://www.ubuntu.co...tu-with-windows

But step 7 eludes me.

I read that Pressing F10, F12, or Esc during the boot might bring up the screen, so I'll go try that, but if it doesn't work, I'll need some help.

 

That's all for now.



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Posted 01 January 2014 - 05:42 PM

Nope, Nothing- I hit all of the keys and the closest thing I got was a 'Boot from what?' type of screen with the various drives listed, such as the CD drive.

 

So I really have no Idea what to do here, and I Really wanted to give Ubuntu a shot...



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Posted 01 January 2014 - 07:13 PM

I dunno, maybe youre supposed to press nothing until it says that...

But I can't be sure, I installed my Ubuntu from USB.



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Posted 01 January 2014 - 11:37 PM

It would help if you posted the name of the computer or motherboard you're using.  When in doubt, RTFM.

 

My computer uses Delete to open the UEFI BIOS settings.

 

Edit: Your current operating system would also help.  Wubi doesn't work in Windows 8, and they recommend a full installation regardless of current OS.  Put the .iso on a DVD or flash drive, then boot into it.  Using this method, installing is optional, but recommended.

 

Edit2: Also, the button you're looking for is F8.

 

Edit3: If you're on Windows 8, ensure that Secure Boot is turned off.


Edited by Killjoy, 02 January 2014 - 12:45 AM.


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Posted 02 January 2014 - 02:05 AM

If I remember right, you have some '04 computer. So, I'm not sure how likely this is to be the culprit, but does it use EFI/UEFI instead of BIOS?

Windows installer is not compatible with Windows 8 (obviously not the issue, if I recall you have XP) or UEFI firmware, and is not available for Ubuntu 13.10.

And what installer did you try to use? x86 or x64?

 

Alternatively, there's this. It was meant to solve problems with newer computers, but I see no reason it shouldn't apply here.

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 11:46 AM

I just put it on a USB flash drive, and I'll be testing that later- right now I have to go to school.

I'll try some of these things soon when I get back later!



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Posted 02 January 2014 - 09:09 PM

OH LOOK WHAT HAPPENED:
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Please help me, Ubuntu seems like a very good OS- I tested it on three different computers at my School, and I want it on this one...



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Posted 02 January 2014 - 09:12 PM

You have a 32 bit computer, so you have to use a 32 bit image.



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Posted 03 January 2014 - 05:29 PM

Yes, I downloaded the 32-bit version and I actually installed it, and Divided the HDD in half- one half for Windows xp, one half for Ubuntu.

But the thing is...

 

UBUNTU IS SLOWER THAN WINDOWS XP!

AND EVEN WORSE, NOW HALF OF MY HDD IS INACCESSIBLE!

SO ALL I DID WAS INSTALL AN OS I'LL NEVER USE, AND CUT MY HDD IN HALF!

I WENT FROM HAVING 144GB TO HAVING 77!

 

 

So now what I need help with is removing all traces of Linux from the computer- I'm just going to deal with the Windows xp support discontinuation when it comes, I just want my Hard drive back.  I hope one of you knows how to fix this, and I hope I didn't screw it up too bad....



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Posted 03 January 2014 - 08:43 PM

Hmm... I'm afraid I don't feel comfortable advising you at this point. I haven't worked on XP for long enough that I've forgotten a lot, and I'd just be going off of Microsoft's resources.

I think you probably created a new partition on your hard drive, and you can view this if you run compmgmt.msc and then click Disc Management. As for playing around with the disc, I'll only advise more if no one else can be more helpful. Sorry.



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Posted 03 January 2014 - 09:37 PM

Don't worry, you'll learn from your mistakes.



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Posted 03 January 2014 - 09:51 PM

Don't worry, you'll learn from your mistakes.

I do, I have, and I am, sadly.



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Posted 03 January 2014 - 10:28 PM

All right, I got to here:
I deleted the two Ubuntu Partitions, And they are now the Unallocated space circled in Red.

What I need to do is allocate the Unallocated space to HP_PAVILION, but I cannot figure out how to do this.

We're most of the way there, but I need some more help!

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Posted 03 January 2014 - 10:37 PM

Ubuntu isn't really meant for older systems.  It's gotten a lot of changes that make it very resource intensive.  For you, I suggest using Lubuntu or Xubuntu.  They use the LXDE and XFCE environments respectively.  You can also try Linux Mint.  It uses Cinnamon, a fork of Gnome 2.



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Posted 03 January 2014 - 11:17 PM

Ubuntu isn't really meant for older systems.  It's gotten a lot of changes that make it very resource intensive.  For you, I suggest using Lubuntu or Xubuntu.  They use the LXDE and XFCE environments respectively.  You can also try Linux Mint.  It uses Cinnamon, a fork of Gnome 2.

I have a Lubuntu Install ready right now, actually- do you think it is worth a shot?



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Posted 04 January 2014 - 04:22 AM

Yes it is worth a shot. I had an old HP Pavilion my mom bought used back in 2005. She Killed the it three times using a very powerful virus program. I had rough Ubuntu updates, suffered under my brother always force shut downs(Holding down the power button) because he is to lazy to properly hit the shut down button, the computer also had a hardware issue that crashed the computer all the time. Lubuntu and Xubuntu were very simple, clean and such even though the crash issue wasn't fixed.



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Posted 04 January 2014 - 04:36 AM

Yes it is worth a shot. I had an old HP Pavilion my mom bought used back in 2005. She Killed the it three times using a very powerful virus program. I had rough Ubuntu updates, suffered under my brother always force shut downs(Holding down the power button) because he is to lazy to properly hit the shut down button, the computer also had a hardware issue that crashed the computer all the time. Lubuntu and Xubuntu were very simple, clean and such even though the crash issue wasn't fixed.

My computer is a 2004 HP Pavilion, and maybe I'll give Lubuntu a shot then



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Posted 04 January 2014 - 05:25 AM

Yes, unity is pretty GPU intensive.  LXDE, XFCE, MATE, and even KDE4 are better DE's.  KDE4 is the most powerfull but is a little demanding.

 

Once you install one *buntu, you can easily switch DE's

sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop

http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download

 

You may find it speedier if you turn off desktop effects



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Posted 04 January 2014 - 05:46 PM

Yes, I downloaded the 32-bit version and I actually installed it, and Divided the HDD in half- one half for Windows xp, one half for Ubuntu.

But the thing is...

 

UBUNTU IS SLOWER THAN WINDOWS XP!

AND EVEN WORSE, NOW HALF OF MY HDD IS INACCESSIBLE!

SO ALL I DID WAS INSTALL AN OS I'LL NEVER USE, AND CUT MY HDD IN HALF!

I WENT FROM HAVING 144GB TO HAVING 77!

 

 

So now what I need help with is removing all traces of Linux from the computer- I'm just going to deal with the Windows xp support discontinuation when it comes, I just want my Hard drive back.  I hope one of you knows how to fix this, and I hope I didn't screw it up too bad....

You could use Puppy Linux... its fast as shit, or crunchbang... well.



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Posted 04 January 2014 - 06:19 PM

I haven't mucked around in lInux before, but make sure you get a distro that supports your nForce 2.

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Posted 04 January 2014 - 06:47 PM

You could use Puppy Linux... its fast as shit, or crunchbang... well.

He's only a beginner in Linux.  Don't even mention crunchbang.



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Posted 05 January 2014 - 04:14 AM

Mint is one of the few that includes proprietary drivers by default, *buntu make the install easy too

 

 

He's only a beginner in Linux.  Don't even mention crunchbang.

I use arch, but kubuntu or mint kde is probably best to start with


Edited by Night Breeze, 05 January 2014 - 04:17 AM.


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Posted 05 January 2014 - 04:57 AM

Is Linux even worth it?

I mean, The support for Winxp ends in April, and March is before that, so if I get a nice laptop for my Birthday, I can just officially retire this one and forget about it.

 

What I need to know is how to allocate that unallocated HDD space back to Windows.



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Posted 05 January 2014 - 06:22 AM

Well, take what I say as a last resort. Surely someone here has more experience than I.

 

From what I understand of XP, you cannot extend any volume that contains System, Boot, or Page volumes, which your C: drive is all of those things, using the standard disc manager, and that you will need 3rd party software to merge that unallocated space to C:.

 

However, I do believe that you can assign that unallocated space to a new partition/logical drive, and continue using it that way.

 

Some things that may help:

 

But again, don't use what I say unless you're desperate.

 

EDIT: Oh, and I should probably say to back up the drive if you can, just to be safe...


Edited by Rainbow Dash McStarley, 05 January 2014 - 06:29 AM.


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Posted 05 January 2014 - 12:51 PM

Hmmmmm Maybe I'll just make a new partition and try to remember what's on what partition as I start putting stuff on it- OR I can use the new partition for my Music and Picture collection and stuff like that.



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Posted 05 January 2014 - 04:34 PM

If you want to reclaim that unused HDD space for windows, boot into your favorite Linux distro Live CD/USB and open GParted (Gnome Partition Editor).  From there, find your windows partition and expand it to consume the entire disk.



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Posted 05 January 2014 - 05:57 PM

If you want to reclaim that unused HDD space for windows, boot into your favorite Linux distro Live CD/USB and open GParted (Gnome Partition Editor).  From there, find your windows partition and expand it to consume the entire disk.

Ok, maybe I'll do this then, sounds like a better solution.



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Posted 05 January 2014 - 11:48 PM

Hmmmmm Maybe I'll just make a new partition and try to remember what's on what partition as I start putting stuff on it- OR I can use the new partition for my Music and Picture collection and stuff like that.

 

I partitioned my HDD a while ago. I keep my OS stuff on my local drive as well as some programs, and all of my media and other programs go on the other partition. It REALLY helps save time when you do a system format. That way you can reinstall your OS without losing all your data or having to back up hundreds of gigabytes worth of stuff.



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Posted 06 January 2014 - 02:00 AM

I partitioned my HDD a while ago. I keep my OS stuff on my local drive as well as some programs, and all of my media and other programs go on the other partition. It REALLY helps save time when you do a system format. That way you can reinstall your OS without losing all your data or having to back up hundreds of gigabytes worth of stuff.

No no no wait I'm doing that. I am doing that. Thank you for this awesome Idea, I'll do that right away and move all my stuff into the new Partition! :D



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Posted 06 January 2014 - 06:11 AM

If you were still using Linux, you could create a partition that mounts at /home/.  That way, all your documents and preferences would also survive a system reinstall.  I don't think you can do that on windows.



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Posted 07 January 2014 - 04:40 AM

I think in Win7, you might be able to do that with NTFS formatted disks.

 

Assign a mount point folder path to a drive - TechNet - Microsoft

 

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Edited by Night Breeze, 07 January 2014 - 04:43 AM.



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