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#101 Sammich

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Posted 15 February 2015 - 03:40 PM

Heh. There's a leadership term derived from Caeser called "Tsar"

 

Yes. That is where the term comes from. That is where Tsarbomb's name comes from. Well, more precisely, his name comes from the Tsar Bomba, or "Emperor Bomb", which was the most powerful nuclear bomb ever detonated.



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Posted 15 February 2015 - 04:08 PM

maybe we should go back on actual topic?

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 12:33 AM

I'm glad our meeting (after more then 3 hours) concluded as nicely as it did, I hope the outcome will make both our nations flourish like never before.



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 01:24 AM

I'm glad our meeting (after more then 3 hours) concluded as nicely as it did, I hope the outcome will make both our nations flourish like never before.

I wasn't part of this meeting, anything involving our military that agreed upon doesn't exist. I work the fleet. If you want to plan a meeting with me involved for once, I wouldn't mind, but I'd stay away from my ships for now.

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 01:27 AM

The treaty was signed by a number of people, Applebloom has the book.
If you wish to read it, ask him or me to clearify what's been discussed.

Since a couple of leading characters, like you Swim, weren't present, nothing has been 'confirmed' yet. 
This is why the book hasn't been signed, so those leaders can still add their signature, or tell why they don't agree with the plans discripted.


Edited by Dinges360, 16 February 2015 - 01:34 AM.


#106 Lieutenant Delta

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 01:33 AM

The treaty was signed by a number of people, Applebloom has the book.
If you wish to read it, ask him or me to clearify what's been discussed


The meeting was pointless. What Boice wants out of this is mostly peace, so we don't attack. But the thing is, I am the one who decides that. So yes, you were practically missing the key to almost everything! Better plan another meeting, this time actually consider me. I don't want to read some treaty I wasn't there to discuss, I want a whole new meeting set up where I actually get to look over what's going on and decide on it

My nation has lied to me, I have no power over what our military is doing

Edited by Lieutenant Delta, 16 February 2015 - 01:49 AM.


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Posted 16 February 2015 - 02:22 AM

The meeting was pointless. What Boice wants out of this is mostly peace, so we don't attack. But the thing is, I am the one who decides that. So yes, you were practically missing the key to almost everything! Better plan another meeting, this time actually consider me. I don't want to read some treaty I wasn't there to discuss, I want a whole new meeting set up where I actually get to look over what's going on and decide on it

My nation has lied to me, I have no power over what our military is doing

i understand that you want to be there when important choices are being made, im sure anyone would, however, i dont think anyone is currently interested for another meeting that may take who knows how long.

and yes, we do want peace, we want to work together to maintain peace for everyone, not just ourselves, because no wars, means more trading opportunities which end up in more wealth for everyone. also we talked about things such as working together to handle currently existing threats



#108 Lieutenant Delta

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 02:43 AM

i understand that you want to be there when important choices are being made, im sure anyone would, however, i dont think anyone is currently interested for another meeting that may take who knows how long.
and yes, we do want peace, we want to work together to maintain peace for everyone, not just ourselves, because no wars, means more trading opportunities which end up in more wealth for everyone. also we talked about things such as working together to handle currently existing threats

You choose to discuss not going to war, yet I'm in control of our fleet and every one of our attacks. So I'll say it again, anything discussed about that is invalid. Therefore the peace is invalid, because I was not there to make that choice. Everyone wants to be wealthy, but when everyone is wealthy at the same time, on a completely even playing field, then nobody is top dog. That's a problem, and in order for one nation to go above the other in power, they cheat the system. Nobody is happy if everyone is, there has to be a loser in the equation.

I want to look over everything, I want everybody's standings from them specifically, and the only way to do that is via another meeting. If you don't want your time wasted, next time consider inviting the commander of the navy

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 02:46 AM

I want to look over everything, I want everybody's standings from them specifically, and the only way to do that is via another meeting. If you don't want your time wasted, next time consider inviting the commander of the navy

you were welcome, you just werent there to join in...

alright, ill see what i can do, but dont have high hopes, i recomment you talk about this with the other leaders of your nation

 

EDIT: also, im not really sure what you're saying about the wealth part, but it looks like a war declaration in a weird way.....


Edited by kilianke, 16 February 2015 - 02:55 AM.


#110 Lieutenant Delta

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 03:00 AM

you were welcome, you just werent there to join in...
alright, ill see what i can do, but dont have high hopes, i recomment you talk about this with the other leaders of your nation

EDIT: also, im not really sure what you're saying about the wealth part, but it looks like a war declaration in a weird way.....

It's not a war deceleration, it's me stating the truth. But if it's war you want... Well, I'll make your life easy. Your superiors better organize a meeting by next weekend, or (since my nation doesn't seem to like to involve me, I'll make it up for myself here) I will bring our largest ship to a random town of my choosing, and I'll pump every round of TNT I own into it until you beg me to stop!

Edited by Lieutenant Delta, 16 February 2015 - 03:02 AM.


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Posted 16 February 2015 - 03:02 AM

Okay swim now you're just being plain idiotic.



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 03:05 AM

It's not a war deceleration, it's me stating the truth. But if it's war you want... Well, I'll make your life easy. Your superiors better organize a meeting by next weekend, or (since my nation doesn't seem to like to involve me, I'll make it up for myself here) I will bring our largest ship to a random town of my choosing, and I'll pump every round of TNT I won into it until you beg me to stop!

you know that the majority of your nation (about almost everyone) won't accept such thing, right? we are just looking for a peacefull solution in which we all help each other to achieve the things we really want



#113 Lieutenant Delta

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 03:08 AM

you know that the majority of your nation (about almost everyone) won't accept such thing, right? we are just looking for a peacefull solution in which we all help each other to achieve the things we really want

Well then, it's a good thing I'm the owner of the largest ship in the fleet... Not the nation. Maybe next time people will consider me as a major part of the nation before discussing things.

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 03:12 AM

Well then, it's a good thing I'm the owner of the largest ship in the fleet... Not the nation. Maybe next time people will consider me as a major part of the nation before discussing things.

we did consider you high priority, but the issue with the meetings is that it is at a certain time, and if people miss it, they just miss it, thats how simple it is

i dont see how this is an excuse to turn hostile towards us



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 03:14 AM

First we have no aim to be hostile to anyone, we towns of the Great Apple Enclave have gathered in peace in hope of prosperity and a future under the great apple tree together in harmony.
We welcome any who wants to be a part of our nation, for we know the importance of tolerance and the hope for a better future
We sail all around the Equestrian sea, we show no fear only love to every pony we meet.
With a warm and open heart i greet you all, let wind stay in your sails, the sun shining bright, love and harmony spread.
Your ruler of the Great Apple Enclave
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Long live the great apple tree!

  

It's not a war deceleration, it's me stating the truth. But if it's war you want... Well, I'll make your life easy. Your superiors better organize a meeting by next weekend, or (since my nation doesn't seem to like to involve me, I'll make it up for myself here) I will bring our largest ship to a random town of my choosing, and I'll pump every round of TNT I own into it until you beg me to stop!


hmmm

#116 Lieutenant Delta

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 03:16 AM

we did consider you high priority, but the issue with the meetings is that it is at a certain time, and if people miss it, they just miss it, thats how simple it is
i dont see how this is an excuse to turn hostile towards us

Maybe with my history and power in all this, you could of postponed it until I was actually there? Instead you made some treaty without any of my word in it. I don't care if it's a final product or not, it's destroyed! I want a meeting to hear everyone's opinion, to discuss this very important treaty with me there, and until a meeting is set up, then that threat still stands!

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 03:19 AM

Maybe with my history and power in all this, you could of postponed it until I was actually there? Instead you made some treaty without any of my word in it. I don't care if it's a final product or not, it's destroyed! I want a meeting to hear everyone's opinion, to discuss this very important treaty with me there, and until a meeting is set up, then that threat still stands!

 

We have everything recorded in a logbook. It makes no sense to bring the participants to the meeting just only for you, Swim. We could explain to you what happened in game, and you can make your decisions then.

 

I'm not trying to sound harsh, but I know what you feel. My dad ripped my laptop from my hands when Dash attacked me for the first time. Do you think I liked having to wait around for a day to know what happened with the progress that took me two months to complete?



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 03:19 AM

Maybe with my history and power in all this, you could of postponed it until I was actually there? Instead you made some treaty without any of my word in it. I don't care if it's a final product or not, it's destroyed! I want a meeting to hear everyone's opinion, to discuss this very important treaty with me there, and until a meeting is set up, then that threat still stands!

like ive been trying to say, im sure many of us arent up for another meeting anytime soon, and it doesnt seem like you're fighting for the nation, but yourself instead

ill give a direct request for mobilization to the others



#119 Lieutenant Delta

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 03:28 AM

We have everything recorded in a logbook. It makes no sense to bring the participants to the meeting just only for you, Swim. We could explain to you what happened in game, and you can make your decisions then.

I'm not trying to sound harsh, but I know what you feel. My dad ripped my laptop from my hands when Dash attacked me for the first time. Do you think I liked having to wait around for a day to know what happened with the progress that took me two months to complete?

No, it's not like that. I'm the leader of our navy (Unless I was lied to), I play a huge part in if there will be peace or not, because I control all attacks. That's a huge request in my department, and there are many fine details I would want to inspect. This meeting was huge for me, I could of got a lot of information out of how Boice feels for us as a whole, not just from one representative. But I didn't, Boice's standing is still a complete mystery to me, and there's no chance we'll have a alliance with them until I inspect the elements I want to inspect.

The fact that they are too lazy to set up another meeting worries me, like they were going to play us from the start. They got exactly what they wanted and they don't want to change for some very odd reason.

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 03:30 AM

Maybe with my history and power in all this, you could of postponed it until I was actually there? Instead you made some treaty without any of my word in it. I don't care if it's a final product or not, it's destroyed! I want a meeting to hear everyone's opinion, to discuss this very important treaty with me there, and until a meeting is set up, then that threat still stands!

Many other town leaders weren't there either, izzy for example. Why postpone it for you, who doesn't even own a town and just leads a navy? Peace treaties are under Butter's and Pip's power, not yours .-.


Edited by Spottedberry, 16 February 2015 - 03:30 AM.


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Posted 16 February 2015 - 03:32 AM

Many other town leaders weren't there either, izzy for example. Why postpone it for you, who doesn't even own a town and just leads a navy? Peace treaties are under Butter's and Pip's power, not yours .-.

I agree.



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 03:34 AM

No, it's not like that. I'm the leader of our navy (Unless I was lied to), I play a huge part in if there will be peace or not, because I control all attacks. That's a huge request in my department, and there are many fine details I would want to inspect. This meeting was huge for me, I could of got a lot of information out of how Boice feels for us as a whole, not just from one representative. But I didn't, Boice's standing is still a complete mystery to me, and there's no chance we'll have a alliance with them until I inspect the elements I want to inspect.

The fact that they are too lazy to set up another meeting worries me, like they were going to play us from the start. They got exactly what they wanted and they don't want to change for some very odd reason.

 

There were quite a lot of people in the meeting. In fact, I have proof from Hepo, who kindly took photos of us in the meeting: 5P3KgxG.png



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 03:48 AM

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 03:49 AM

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 03:50 AM

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 03:50 AM

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 03:51 AM

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 03:53 AM

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 04:07 AM

so like if swim quits can i have her spot?

(Serious question, by the way, <3)



#130 Lieutenant Delta

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 04:12 AM

so like if swim quits can i have her spot?
(Serious question, by the way, <3)

Are you serious. Like, are you kidding me? You're the shit on the bottom of he barrel right now, they want you punished for blowing up the lighthouse.

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 04:13 AM

Are you serious. Like, are you kidding me? You're the shit on the bottom of he barrel right now, they want you punished for blowing up the lighthouse.

Not anymore, they forgave her. And, she and Coolmannj are both co-mayors of Kazechi. So she's directly below me. Which is about two or three spaces below you.

 

 

Think before you act.


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Posted 16 February 2015 - 04:15 AM

Not anymore, they forgave her. And, she and Coolmannj are both co-mayors of Kazechi. So she's directly below me. Which is about two or three spaces below you.

 

 

Think before you act.

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#133 Lieutenant Delta

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 04:16 AM

Not anymore, they forgave her. And, she and Coolmannj are both co-mayors of Kazechi. So she's directly below me. Which is about two or three spaces below you.


Think before you act.

And you're bellow me. I don't own a town, I lead a part of the entire nation.

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 04:17 AM

Are you serious. Like, are you kidding me? You're the shit on the bottom of he barrel right now, they want you punished for blowing up the lighthouse.

calm yourself, it's a joke

Also, by the way you're acting, you'll get punished quickly.



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 04:17 AM

And you're bellow me. I don't own a town, I lead a part of the entire nation.

Same here. I lead a town that offers those in need shelter when they desperately need it. Therefore, a town, a part of the nation that offers charity and shelter.

 

Again, think before you freaking act.


Edited by Spottedberry, 16 February 2015 - 04:54 AM.


#136 Wolf I.E.

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 04:20 AM

Same here. I lead a town that leads the town that offers those in need shelter when they desperately need it. Therefore, a town, a part of the nation that offers charity and shelter.

 

Again, think before you freaking act.

Kazechi's acts on part of the nation: like 3 or 4

Navy's acts on part of the nation: -2



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 04:21 AM

Kazechi's acts on part of the nation: like 3 or 4

Navy's acts on part of the nation: -2

BUUURRRRRRRN!



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 04:22 AM

rest in pieces swim, she stopped browsing the forums

 

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 04:25 AM

My colonies, this is President John Henry Charcoal, with a public announcement. As we face threats from outside our glorious nation, it seems we have one inside. It seems that we are having internal conflict. Although my duty is to not publicly report these things, I am for the sake of the safety of those outside the nation.

 

Although we have had a peace meeting to discuss politics and other world events, it has seemed that one person is disagreeing with what we have discussed, even though not at the meeting at all. Of course, this said person is a threat to your security, and our nation stability.

 

I am, of now, saying this to the outlier in our nation: Do you want to see our nation fall apart? Our goals, our purpose? The one thing that has brought us together? And what is said thing? Is it wealth? Its is... power? You, outlier, have everything, diamonds, a full navy at your disposal, power! And yet you use that power to disgrace others, to make them... weak and insignificant. You take your own power, and act like a tyrant.

 

Is this what we want? Is this going to help us? We may be the Great Apple Enclave, but we aren't tyrants. We established a form a government for order, peace, and stability, not... anarchy! Do you want to see the race of ponykind slide back into the pits of darkness, after we had only had just begin to see the light?

 

I ask you, outlier, that question. And I want you to think, is it worth it? To cause all this worldwide chaos for such a simple issue which can probably be solved in five minutes time! Think about that, outlier. Think, and remember... what brought us all together. We are an Enclave. Together now... together forever.



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 04:26 AM

My colonies, this is President John Henry Charcoal, with a public announcement. As we face threats from outside our glorious nation, it seems we have one inside. It seems that we are having internal conflict. Although my duty is to not publicly report these things, I am for the sake of the safety of those outside the nation.

 

Although we have had a peace meeting to discuss politics and other world events, it has seemed that one person is disagreeing with what we have discussed, even though not at the meeting at all. Of course, this said person is a threat to your security, and our nation stability.

 

I am, of now, saying this to the outlier in our nation: Do you want to see our nation fall apart? Our goals, our purpose? The one thing that has brought us together? And what is said thing? Is it wealth? Its is... power? You, outlier, have everything, diamonds, a full navy at your disposal, power! And yet you use that power to disgrace others, to make them... weak and insignificant. You take your own power, and act like a tyrant.

 

Is this what we want? Is this going to help us? We may be the Great Apple Enclave, but we aren't tyrants. We established a form a government for order, peace, and stability, not... anarchy! Do you want to see the race of ponykind slide back into the pits of darkness, after we had only had just begin to see the light?

 

I ask you, outlier, that question. And I want you to think, is it worth it? To cause all this worldwide chaos for such a simple issue which can probably be solved in five minutes time! Think about that, outlier. Think, and remember... what brought us all together. We are an Enclave. Together now... together forever.



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 04:28 AM

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 04:31 AM

stop

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 04:32 AM

Sometimes I think of what people think of the nation, then I think about this:

 



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 05:26 AM

Why do I miss all the good stuff

EDIT: And they said I wanted an arms race :/

Biggest ship in the world, eh?

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 06:19 AM

guys, from what i can tell this is an unfair judgement.

 

I could not attend the meeting, as i was at school, getting an education (and/or, sleeping)

Butters is my representative, as i don't want many decisions.

 

You knew not all of us could attend. Swim is stuck in a remote place, i live on the opposite side of the world, and sleep while you are awake.

Though i trust i didn't miss something actually important.

 

 

THIS TREATY MUST BE POSTED FULLY, ONTO THESE FORUMS WITHIN THE VIEW OF ALL PEOPLE WHO CHOSE TO LOOK.

OTHERWISE, IT'S A DIRECT 'NO' FROM MYSELF, TOO.

I WILL NOT AGREE TO SOMETHING I CAN'T SEE.

And, a minecraft book is the most untrustable way to do this. it can be edited by anybody without a trace. (they'd just have to rewrite it all, but some would love to do that, just to play games). You could change something without our knowledge. And posting it here is a much better way to get a full-rounded agreement.

 

also, you guys... i seriously can't believe how immature you are being. this is not shenanigans. you are insulting others and you are not taking any notice of that you are being horrible. Please, it just proves how you are unfit to be around anybody on the internet. get a backbone. your not 5 yearolds. your in an environment where you can actually prove you have some decency. please take one chance and do it

 

If someone is not at the meeting, it's a presumed 'NO GO' because they do not know anything in full detail. Please, Boicelands, i'd love to commit to peace but i want to know what i'm agreeing to first.


Edited by Royall, 16 February 2015 - 06:21 AM.


#146 High Orbit

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 06:35 AM

In that case, Izzy, I hope you don't mind all having a meeting at 2am US time, since I am technicallly the Naval Architect of my nation's fleet, and I clearly can't make any meetings.


Is a peace treaty THAT hard to make?

From what I can see, nothing's set in stone yet, so stop critiquing a meeting that hasn't even set solid terms.

Look,it's clearly impossible to please everyone in a meeting. Even Japan's declaration of surrender wasn't signed by the ruler of Japan at the time.

If you're not in it, just get the memo from someone who was.

I wasn't in this meeting, but I am damn sure my people wouldn't agree to it if it was fair to only one side.

Edited by High Orbit, 16 February 2015 - 06:44 AM.


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Posted 16 February 2015 - 06:42 AM

well the core agreements should be like, Peace, Alliance, supporting eachother in times of need. No nation will be forced to go into war. They still have the option to decide.

That's a proper, agreeable, treaty, for me.



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 06:46 AM

well the core agreements should be like, Peace, Alliance, supporting eachother in times of need. No nation will be forced to go into war. They still have the option to decide.
That's a proper, agreeable, treaty, for me.

And what makes you think it's going to be anything but that?

Do you seriously have that little faith in the members who were in the meeting to have settled on a beneficial solution for both sides?

No, do you have that little faith in the representatives of YOUR country to have seen if it was unfair or not and made a correction?

I know Swim's concern, I too have spent many months and quite a few sleepless nights building and rebuilding ships.

To lose them to something I wasn't there to have a say in would be horrific.

But I trust my fellow Boicelanders that were there at that meeting. I trust that they know what they're doing, and I trust that they would never make a stupid move. I trust that the agreement made there is a fair one, and that it is equal to both sides.

And if it ended in war, I will still have trusted that they would have taken my ships and used them the best they could, even if I logged in to a flaming town.

Is it so hard to see beyond your own worries?

Edited by High Orbit, 16 February 2015 - 07:00 AM.


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Posted 16 February 2015 - 07:05 AM

And what makes you think it's going to be anything but that?

Do you seriously have that little faith in the members who were in the meeting to have settled on a beneficial solution for both sides?

No, do you have that little faith in the representatives of YOUR country to have seen if it was unfair or not and made a correction?

No need to question me. I'm logicly stating like anybody would, that i might misstrust those rules. If i made an agreement with someone with authority there, and nobody else knew the details, they'd ask, wouldn't they?



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 07:14 AM

I'm not questioning you anymore than I am everyone present here.

And logically, wouldn't you trust that whatever rules that Butter and the rest of the Enclave set with Boice would already have taken your worries into account and solved them?

Or is it more logical to believe that we scammed the crap out of your representatives into signing a document clearly lopsided?

There is nothing more to worry about, unless you claim the Enclave representatives there had the intelligence of trained monkeys.

Edited by High Orbit, 16 February 2015 - 07:15 AM.


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Posted 16 February 2015 - 07:35 AM

This thread has literally gotten ~600 views just today.

 

I must ask people to calm down and relax. At the moment the "Declaration of Alliance" has not been signed by Pip, Izzy, Swim, and I. The Enclave does things as a nation, we all have to agree before moving forward. Just because 2 leaders have shown their support doesnt mean everyone else just has to go along with it. We can discuss it. 

The meeting today was just a first step. It was the first meeting between the nations and there is plenty of time for more meetings and discussions, with those who werent there included. Its not the end all be all. 

 

Also it just comes to basic timezones and availability. We can't all be on all the time. And demanding people bend to someone else's schedule just isnt fair. Now asking Boicelands to set up another meeting with more leaders would have been fine. Demanding it and threatening is not the way to go about it. 

 

This bickering and poking at each other is beneath all of you. I don't want to see any more of it. 

 

Here's a copy of what was talked about:

 

Boicelands

Great Apple Enclave

Meeting in Hillside Mansion

 

Concerning Future of Peaceful Coexistence

 

Discussing Alliance:

Focusing on Achieving world peace and working together to stop threats to freedom and peace.

 

Possible threats:

Dash

 

What to do with DeryTacos:

Considered the main pony responsible for destruction of Vault City.

(He is now forming his own nation)

 

What to do with Wolfie:

Considered to have co-responsibility of VC's destruction. 

 

What to do with possible dangers to peace and freedom:

Keep a clsoe eye on earlier named suspects.
Further actions yet to be discussed.
 
Location of Abouya's VC
 
Oil Rig Plan:
Building an oil rig on the west side of the map (possibly)
 
What to do with ABouya's island:
Remove all town claims and turn it into a free island (for trade)
Towns can build in their colonies. For others to work on the island permission is needed.
Renamed island "Haven".
 
Regarding Resources:
The clay island will be open up to everyone.
Boicelands will gain free nether access for a weekly supply of food, wood and addtional supplies to Erebus.
 
Official Declaration of Alliance
Government Members who sign will accept an alliance and future collaboration of Nation of Boicelands and the Great Apple Enclave.
Peace is our top priority.
 
I've read the Terms and Agreements 
-Dinges TD Mayor & Building
- aboua14 (President John Henry Charcoal), VC overseer
- NightStar179 (Hime Nightfang) Leader of Kazechi
- Tchaikovsky (Meriadoc Brandybuck) Leader of Hobbiton
- Marcus Mario Leader of Shiver City
- kilianke (Lt. Thunder Dash) Royal Trotterdam Airforce
- Perry (my greek keyboard is broken) Arms Dealer
- Dr_Clef Communist, Bureaucrat, and Ship Designed
- Sandwichx (Pinks Gourmet) Head of Trade for Gourmet's Exotic Goods and Captain of the Subsidiary, the Azuresail Mercenaries (subject to change)
 
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A more official one was going to be made for the forums. This is more like notes of the meeting.

Edited by MrButternubs, 16 February 2015 - 07:41 AM.


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Posted 16 February 2015 - 07:42 AM

Instead of trying to meet in-game, why not just talk here? I mean, it's a perfect use of the forums.

 

If you think you can continue with this treaty system, fine, but I suggest making a new separate thread for the explicit purpose of treaty discussion.

You can all say what you want and react to others, and discussion is out in the open; always available to see and look back on. You don't need to worry about time differences so long as no one tries rushing the process.

 

I don't want to see another spazzout like this again. Clear?



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 07:57 AM

Instead of trying to meet in-game, why not just talk here? I mean, it's a perfect use of the forums.

 

If you think you can continue with this treaty system, fine, but I suggest making a new separate thread for the explicit purpose of treaty discussion.

You can all say what you want and react to others, and discussion is out in the open; always available to see and look back on. You don't need to worry about time differences so long as no one tries rushing the process.

 

I don't want to see another spazzout like this again. Clear?

exactly what i was talking about. It's the smarter thing to do.



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 08:00 AM

Instead of trying to meet in-game, why not just talk here? I mean, it's a perfect use of the forums.

 

If you think you can continue with this treaty system, fine, but I suggest making a new separate thread for the explicit purpose of treaty discussion.

You can all say what you want and react to others, and discussion is out in the open; always available to see and look back on. You don't need to worry about time differences so long as no one tries rushing the process.

 

I don't want to see another spazzout like this again. Clear?

 

Trouble is we may not want everything on the Treaty to be public info for the more delicate matters. Perhaps a PM group convo? That could work well.

 

But part of it was being able to meet in game and recreate like an actual meeting between nations.

Wouldn't be quite the same thing for the forums, but that may be something we can sacrifice. 

 

What do you think Boicelands? Group convo? I can set it up if your okay with it.


Edited by MrButternubs, 16 February 2015 - 08:09 AM.


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Posted 16 February 2015 - 08:11 AM

Trouble is we may not want everything on the Treaty to be public info for the more delicate matters. Perhaps a PM group convo? That could work well.

 

But part of it was being able to meet in game and recreate like an actual meeting between nations.

Wouldn't be quite the same thing for the forums, but that may be something we can sacrifice. 

it's a cool thing to do, to make it rp-like, but it's really inconvinient for those who are actually busy with important irl matters. I mean, PM is a better idea then on the forums, but making it official where everyone can see it that needs it is what we need so we don't have these misscommunications more. i already have things to question about the treaty. But i will ask and sort it out within the nation.



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 09:15 AM

Oh my god it's like the league of nations.

 

I'm not gonna respond to any of the drama here (though some of it was pretty funny and/or nonsensical), but I will say a few people take this too seriously.

 

I'm not involved in col that much, so I don't really understand what part my say has in it, but I say the treaty should be done over forum and not in game because that causes too many problems. Like, people going crazy and threatening to bomb innocent bystanders.



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 10:31 AM

I wake up in the morning, to find this....

Discussing how to achieve peace, start shitstorms nowadays?

World, oh world....



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 10:38 AM



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 11:57 AM

I wake up in the morning, to find this....

Discussing how to achieve peace, start shitstorms nowadays?

World, oh world....


Col 2 : World Simulator 2015

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 12:26 PM

also apon reading the entire thing so far:



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 02:55 PM

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 04:16 PM

Do I need to move this to shenanigans? Keep it on topic, guys.

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 04:29 PM

humor is the best thing to break the tension, but yes I suppose the thread does need to go back on topic, as for swim, if she wants a battle someone should just duel her

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 07:53 PM

I would like to remind Swim that the meeting was announced beforehand

Leaders of the great cities that form the Great Apple Enclave,

We, the leaders of the Boicelands, would like furthur diplomatic agreements between the two nations, this includes the offer of a formal alliance.
What we want to achieve is world peace, and from the stories I've heard, the Great Apple Enclave is looking for the same. We will need to work together, so we can achieve this.
Tomorrow (sunday) we would like to meet up in the hillside mansion, behind the Parlement building in New Trotterdam. I have no exact time for this meeting, due to timezone differences.

We hope we can come to an agreement which is in a favor for both of us, and may many great things be the result of it.
~The government of the Boicelands


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Posted 16 February 2015 - 08:23 PM

I would like to remind Swim that the meeting was announced beforehand

The announcement doesn't change the fact that she was in a remote place with no access to the game and only a little internet if not none?
Anyways I can't attend on my weekdays so, sorry.

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 08:25 PM

The announcement doesn't change the fact that she was in a remote place with no access to the game and only a little internet if not none?
Anyways I can't attend on my weekdays so, sorry.

 

People live all over the world. You can't possibly expect everyone you need to be online to be online when you need them. If you disagree, then you're being unrealistic. not everybody wants to wake up at 2 AM to sign a treaty in a game.



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 08:25 PM

The announcement doesn't change the fact that she was in a remote place with no access to the game and only a little internet if not none?
Anyways I can't attend on my weekdays so, sorry.


She could of easily contacted Kili to change the day before it happened, and you could of aswell.

I honestly dont see the problem here

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 09:13 PM

People live all over the world. You can't possibly expect everyone you need to be online to be online when you need them. If you disagree, then you're being unrealistic. not everybody wants to wake up at 2 AM to sign a treaty in a game.

The thing is, that's what I'm SAYING!
I have to the same just to take part!
I DONT have the time
My vote will be the nation's vote. So I don't need to attend while I should be at school getting an education. I don't need to because my vote doesn't matter anyways, I don't want an opinion. Do I have to be forced to go while I could just read it in the most accessible place (yet they block brohoof altogether at school), the forums?
If everyone else agrees, then fine, I agree too. But I'm not going to be able to attend.
Fine, reschedule for her, but no matter what you do, I'll never have the time to attend. Go on without me. I control only internal matters, and that means I don't need to govern outside stuff because I'm the shittiest person to do that, because I always take part and fuel flamewars.
Like right now. Please, leave me out of this now. I'll tell my vote to the nation, then they can all compile the votes and shabang, problems over! I'll sign when I can, but otherwise I'm just gonna have to do it over my nation pm. Ignore me for now.

Edited by Royall, 16 February 2015 - 09:22 PM.


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Posted 16 February 2015 - 09:19 PM

Why do you guys even need to all be on at once? Just discuss them through signed books and over the chat.



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 09:29 PM

Update:my vote is yes as long as I can still control the amount of ponies going in the nether at any one time. Anyone can go through, but they it will not be a free-for-all either. Everything else, I don't mind. I do get a say about the deal concerning my own town, as it's mayor.
And now I won't be able to access brohoof for the rest of today because: school :)
See you in 6 or so hours.

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Posted 17 February 2015 - 06:18 AM

The thing is, that's what I'm SAYING!
I have to the same just to take part!
I DONT have the time
My vote will be the nation's vote. So I don't need to attend while I should be at school getting an education. I don't need to because my vote doesn't matter anyways, I don't want an opinion. Do I have to be forced to go while I could just read it in the most accessible place (yet they block brohoof altogether at school), the forums?
If everyone else agrees, then fine, I agree too. But I'm not going to be able to attend.
Fine, reschedule for her, but no matter what you do, I'll never have the time to attend. Go on without me. I control only internal matters, and that means I don't need to govern outside stuff because I'm the shittiest person to do that, because I always take part and fuel flamewars.
Like right now. Please, leave me out of this now. I'll tell my vote to the nation, then they can all compile the votes and shabang, problems over! I'll sign when I can, but otherwise I'm just gonna have to do it over my nation pm. Ignore me for now.

If you have such a problem with not being there, why not get a damn representative for your nation to do it for you?

It's not a hard concept to grasp.



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Posted 17 February 2015 - 07:43 AM

If you have such a problem with not being there, why not get a damn representative for your nation to do it for you?

It's not a hard concept to grasp.

butters was. i've agreed anyways, so my argument is sorta invalid now.

sorry guys, emotions get the better of me :P



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Posted 17 February 2015 - 08:30 PM

Updated the OP. And those who have been with us for awhile here are the new rules:

 

 

ROLE PLAYING RULES

It seems confusion over who is role playing and who is not has caused a lot of problems. So from now you must state when you are role playing, both here on the forums and in Colonizations. It can be something as simple as "Hey guys I am role playing as *insert character here* now". As long as you make it clear to others that you are role playing. Otherwise what you say will be taken at face value, and depending on its contents could result in suspensions or worse. Also and I couldnt stress this enough, don't use role playing as an excuse to make someone's life miserable. The end goal of this is to be fun.


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Posted 17 February 2015 - 09:15 PM

Well, for those who have never heard my voice, and want to hear a really bad president accent, here is my first voiced speech from yours truly, President John Henry Charcoal

 

https://soundcloud.c...inished-radio-1

 

Also, thanks for Hooviano who did all of the back stage work like editing and all that stuff. Thanks!



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Posted 17 February 2015 - 09:21 PM

Also, thanks for Hooviano who did all of the back stage work like editing and all that stuff. Thanks!

(I would like to add, if anyone is interested into making one of these "transmissions". Please! Feel free to message me and I will gladly help with the editing to make it sound like a transmission.)

 

By the way! Feed back would be great! I am very new to this. It's something I have always wanted to do.


Edited by Foxy the pirate, 17 February 2015 - 09:24 PM.


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Posted 20 February 2015 - 08:00 PM

Well, for those who have never heard my voice, and want to hear a really bad president accent, here is my first voiced speech from yours truly, President John Henry Charcoal

 

https://soundcloud.c...inished-radio-1

 

Also, thanks for Hooviano who did all of the back stage work like editing and all that stuff. Thanks!

where is the like botten when you need it :I



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where is the like botten when you need it :I

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Posted 28 February 2015 - 03:21 AM

So, uh, I don't mean to stir the pot, but Swim's leaving, I've heard.

So, I mean, what're we going to do now?

 

#wolfiefornavyleader,yes



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Posted 28 February 2015 - 11:14 AM

Leaders will discuss what do.  I will post here once we have results. We may choose just to get rid of navy leadership since that never panned out anyway or choose someone else for the position. Either way the Great Apple Enclave shall be fine.

 

 

And talks between Boicelands and Great Apple Enclave are still ongoing, just in case anyone was wondering. 



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Posted 03 March 2015 - 11:42 AM

My lovely ponies, we live in a time of unrest, dark pessimistic everyday full of dreadful pain. But rest assured that the great apple enclave will do its best to protect everyone enclave or not, we stand not to engage you in war but in peace and prosperity, we will sail from the capital Libraria with the new titan class ship GAES Peace to Trotterdam for peace talk between G.A.E and boice.
We must gather as frinds and speak of the future of our lovely Equstria, no matter who or what we must be tolerant, we must do this for our nation's, our children and for everyone's future.
The Great Apple Enclave will aid any in need and be an example of peace and prosparity within unity.

I say to you my dear ponies, good day from your Nightshade Flash.

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 06:45 PM

My lovely ponies, we live in a time of unrest, dark pessimistic everyday full of dreadful pain. But rest assured that the great apple enclave will do its best to protect everyone enclave or not, we stand not to engage you in war but in peace and prosperity, we will sail from the capital Libraria with the new titan class ship GAES Peace to Trotterdam for peace talk between G.A.E and boice.
We must gather as frinds and speak of the future of our lovely Equstria, no matter who or what we must be tolerant, we must do this for our nation's, our children and for everyone's future.
The Great Apple Enclave will aid any in need and be an example of peace and prosparity within unity.

I say to you my dear ponies, good day from your Nightshade Flash.


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#182 MrButternubs

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 09:16 PM

Titan class? Holy mackerel. Can't wait to see it. Are there any other Titan class ships?

This ship and our head of state Nightshade Flash shall be a beacon of hope for the nation, and all the world.

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 09:17 PM

My flagship is a titan class.



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Posted 04 March 2015 - 06:10 PM

The Great Apple Enclave has decided to dissolve the position of Admiral. The powers associated with the position shall now belong to Pip and I. We understand that some were seeking the position and while we appreciate that enthusiasm, Pip and I feel that a muted military is best due to past experiences.

Long live the Great Apple Enclave.

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Posted 23 March 2015 - 01:20 AM

My great colonies, as all things life, all things die... and sometimes, things within things die. I'm sure you're wondering what I'm going with this... and what I intend to show you all. Today was both a good day and a bad day. The bad news, my colonies, is  that Vault City has left the Enclave. And because of this, so am I. The good news... after countless times of being.. controlled. Being told what to do by larger nations, being... bossed... around by even individual people, Vault City has grown strong... strong enough for its own title in this troubled world. Its own title of worthiness.

 

Brought up by the democracy of New Trotterdam and later the organized Enclave, we have learned much. In a world like this, independence is difficult. Large powers threaten to destroy our peaceful land, if it even is peaceful as it was before the Great Flood. We have learned from our past mistakes that being rude will get us nowhere. Being rude, my colonies, will not bring peace and salvation. It'll bring more tensions, more conflict, and most of all... more instability. And due to what we learned... instead of "being rude" we stepped up. And instead of leaving the once great Enclave in a fit of rage and jelousy, we left in honor for the nation that has taught us so much, and was so kind.

 

The independent state of Vault City shall continue. Now at free will, and with more protection from outer threats, it continues to thrive. Although a bit strained from past conflicts, it has begin to be stronger in the face of danger. And although not many help out as they used to, the liberty it has earned from itself shall make it more confident to be more than a silly little hole in the ground.

 

Colonists, settlers, warmongers, be warned. Vault City is up on its feet. And it won't, I say it won't! Back down from anything.

 

And of course, there's me. I shall not be leaving you, my colonies. Although my dedication to the Great Apple Enclave is over, my voice will carry elsewhere.

 

This has been President John Henry Charcoal... now just normal Solar Star once again... signing off.

 



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Posted 23 March 2015 - 01:29 AM

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Posted 23 March 2015 - 02:09 AM

mexico sucks



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