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#1 Ratty

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Posted 07 June 2015 - 02:05 AM



My replies in the comments to the video:

It was all going slowly downhill after Lauren Faust left. Perhaps the remaining crew wouldn't stand up to corporate like she did, so we end up with stuff like Shining Armor out of nowhere, and Alicorn Twilight. The world building in the first season was really interesting to me, and satisfied all ages that watched it, finally there was a show adults could watch with children that was actually good. When people say "it's just a kids show, stop being so critical", they have really missed that point. Before MLP gen 4, that was true, but we can't just sit here and pretend it's not possible to just make a show that is appealing to all after it was just accomplished. So now they are just degrading into a vapid children's show, and I don't think Hasbro really cares, they just want to continue selling toys in the pink isle.

If any bronies are looking for something else to latch onto that is a community, try furry. They also have the attitude of "I like what I like, and I don't care if anyone approves". You're all furries anyway, that only likes one species. And there is no such thing as canon, you can create whatever you want, even things not furry are accepted, like dragons, dinosaurs, etc. With all the art and animation being created, it can never just die, get cancelled, or be taken in a lame direction like MLP.



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 02:21 AM

tbh I haven't been watching the show at all recently.

 

I've been liking the fandom ten times more than the show

 

it makes me cringe sometimes. 



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 03:56 AM

Maybe it's just me, but I find that brohoof actually shields a lot from the MLP community. In order for a person to get here, they have to like ponies, and/or like minecraft, then find acceptance in our tight-knit community. Sure we have a general discussion forum for ponies, but it would be a lot different if I visited a more general MLP forum or IRC chat room. I find that I only consider myself a fandom member because I like the art, music, and of course the episode. You guys are cool, don't get me wrong, but trying to meet as many bronies isn't really a goal for me. It's is nice to wear my pony shirts in public though and watch the reactions I get. Lord_Kakapo (or just Kakapo) would probably say that the fandom has gone way down, since the Season 3 finale was it for him. For the people who do go out and explore more of the MLP communities, is this guy (the guy in the original video) right? Is that really what the fandom has become outside the doors of brohoof?

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Posted 07 June 2015 - 05:57 AM

i can support his theory of the fandom turning into a mob. it's starting to turn into the equivalent of a religion or largely supported idea. over time, the true meaning is lost, and it is only done, to be done.

yes, many people are leaving because it's slowly losing it's meaning, but there's also many people sticking into it at the same time. i'm sort of sitting on the fence now. i watch the show because i am used to it, and feel that yes, it's lost it's true meaning, but is improving on other aspects. i would prefer if stories actually were more  connected, and not just thrown out there for the sake of it. the episodes are sort of like fillers now. but i still love ponies, i still love the show. i'm sticking onto it, but it isn't really amazing to me anymore. hanging on, for now.



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 08:01 AM

The 100th episode kinda just confirms this. "Hurry just show everything they want in the show so they still watch us!" 

 

Maybe it's just me, but I find that brohoof actually shields a lot from the MLP community. In order for a person to get here, they have to like ponies, and/or like minecraft, then find acceptance in our tight-knit community. Sure we have a general discussion forum for ponies, but it would be a lot different if I visited a more general MLP forum or IRC chat room. I find that I only consider myself a fandom member because I like the art, music, and of course the episode. You guys are cool, don't get me wrong, but trying to meet as many bronies isn't really a goal for me. It's is nice to wear my pony shirts in public though and watch the reactions I get. Lord_Kakapo (or just Kakapo) would probably say that the fandom has gone way down, since the Season 3 finale was it for him. For the people who do go out and explore more of the MLP communities, is this guy (the guy in the original video) right? Is that really what the fandom has become outside the doors of brohoof?

 

This is a good point. Also the people that he describes in the episode wouldnt last long around here anyway or fit in very well. As for the wider community, I cant say.



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 08:13 AM

Personally, it's all fan-service now, at least episode wise.

I tend to make anonymous forays into the darker parts of the fandom pretending to be a non - brony, and I can confirm that the fan base in general is just... Eeh.

Brohoof as it is is the most welcoming place you'll have the luck to find yourself in, from the responses I've gotten.

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Posted 07 June 2015 - 09:14 AM

Is there a "give this guy a cookie" button on youtube? Becuase thats exacly what he deserves.

In these 11:31 seconds of this video he explained everything what this fandom is. Don't get me wrong, I don't think everyone in the fandom is a crying little shit that hates on others just because they have something negative to say about the show, there are still normal people.

The only positive thing I can say about this fandom is the art, videos, music and fanfics. The guys at hasbro/discovery family (whatever) give us shit and the fandom turns it onto gold, thats a bad sign imo.

Literally any person on fimfiction that has a decent amount of followers could write a better story for an episode than the current show writers.

 

Like we said in many threads before, this show is not dead, yet, but it will die off eventually



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 10:00 AM

It was all going slowly downhill after Lauren Faust left. Perhaps the remaining crew wouldn't stand up to corporate like she did, so we end up with stuff like Shining Armor out of nowhere, and Alicorn Twilight. The world building in the first season was really interesting to me, and satisfied all ages that watched it, finally there was a show adults could watch with children that was actually good. When people say "it's just a kids show, stop being so critical", they have really missed that point. Before MLP gen 4, that was true, but we can't just sit here and pretend it's not possible to just make a show that is appealing to all after it was just accomplished. So now they are just degrading into a vapid children's show, and I don't think Hasbro really cares, they just want to continue selling toys in the pink isle.

If any bronies are looking for something else to latch onto that is a community, try furry. They also have the attitude of "I like what I like, and I don't care if anyone approves". You're all furries anyway, that only likes one species. And there is no such thing as canon, you can create whatever you want, even things not furry are accepted, like dragons, dinosaurs, etc. With all the art and animation being created, it can never just die, get cancelled, or be taken in a lame direction like MLP.

And when i talk about this noone replies



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 10:06 AM

Am I alone in still genuinely enjoying the more recent episodes maybe even more than some of those in season 1?



#10 High Orbit

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Posted 07 June 2015 - 10:19 AM

Am I alone in still genuinely enjoying the more recent episodes maybe even more than some of those in season 1?


I like the nods to us here and there, sure, but it's getting a little double rainboom levels of fandom reference, don't you think?

Edited by High Orbit, 07 June 2015 - 10:20 AM.


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Posted 07 June 2015 - 10:22 AM

I like the nods to us here and there, sure, but it's getting a little double rainboom levels of fandom reference, don't you think?

Hey, as long as there's no goddamn troll faces in smoke.

 

But srsly I give no shits about any of the episodes past season 2, they just stopped being enjoyable to me.



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 11:22 AM

I haven't watched a single episode of the new season, I don't really look at any of the art or music anymore and I'm only active in one RP because it's cool, I'm pretty sure I don't even qualify as a brony anymore. I still agree with what the guy in the video said, it's all been getting slowly worse, even people who were pretty prominent in the MLP community have stopped being interested in it. Either way I'm into anime now, twilight sparkle ain't got shit on my loli waifu.

((That was a joke I'm not a weeaboo.))

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Posted 07 June 2015 - 11:26 AM

I like the nods to us here and there, sure, but it's getting a little double rainboom levels of fandom reference, don't you think?

Could you give some examples? I'm incredibly dense, lol



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 01:31 PM

((I actually posted this video in the "Post Random Thoughts" thread in Shenanigans, you dirty, dirty video stealer))

But yeah, pretty much anything past Season 2 (Though Season 3 was still okay, and Season 4 had its moments) has gone downhill overtime. With very few memorable episodes and a load of fanservice.


Edited by GoopHug, 07 June 2015 - 01:34 PM.


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Posted 07 June 2015 - 03:25 PM

Am I alone in still genuinely enjoying the more recent episodes maybe even more than some of those in season 1?


no, I still watch the series, it still makes more sense then alot of older gen 1 era cartoons at least

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Posted 07 June 2015 - 04:23 PM

I still find it watchable, the first 2 episodes of the new season was good. But looking at all the seasons, it's like watching a stock slowly decline in value.

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Posted 07 June 2015 - 04:29 PM

... What a load of shit.

 

The "S1-S2 were better" brigade are just wearing their heavy-duty rose tinted glasses. If you view the series objectively, there is not that big a difference in content between S1-S2 and S4-S5 (S3 was kind of shit though). The idea that the show ever cared about "lore" is just plain silly. Family Appreciation Day contradicted Winter Wrap Up on how long Ponyville had been around, A Dog And Pony Show never made sense from the get-go because why would Rarity not know about a race of potentially dangerous dogs that live right outside her town, Over a Barrel had literal pies used as weapons that were actually effective at knocking giant buffalo out, Luna Eclipsed totally DESTROYED Luna's original appearance in S1. Any kind of pretense that this kid's show actually cared about narrative causality and consistency is just a delusion. The show hasn't gotten worse, you've just remembered it being better than it was. It was never that great to begin with, it's always been a show for kids that incidentally, some adults liked.

 

The rest of the video complaining about the fandom is just complaining about human nature. It's got nothing to do with bronies, all humans do that, regardless of race, nationality, sexual orientation, or cartoon preferences. "This fandom has lost all ability to think rationally" LOL LIKE GROUPS OF HUMANS HAVE EVER BEEN ABLE TO THINK RATIONALLY. That was the biggest load of fucking cringe to anyone that's studied psychology. 

 

I rate this guy a 2/10, 2whiny4me with not a scrap of insight to be found.



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 11:25 PM

This was hilarious to read


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