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Posted 07 June 2015 - 06:35 PM

I honestly don't get it, she is selfish, stupid, noncaring, never shows (aside from a few times) that she deserves the element of loyalty, she thinks she is better than the rest, seriously, aside from the "fastest flyer thing" (wich is actually not true, Wonderbolts Academy proved so) she is no better than the rest, she shouldn't have that much recognition, then why does she get all the recognition instead of someone like Twilight?

 

I honestly don't get it, can someone explain me?


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Posted 07 June 2015 - 06:54 PM

She has a lot of self-confidence, which is a very admirable trait.



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 06:54 PM

In other words, she thinks she is better than anyone else, not admirable.

 

Tirek also had a lot of self confidence, so is Rainbow a villan? I don't think so.

 

Also if you move your cursor over the traits in my previous post it'll tell you the episode:

 

-she is selfish

-stupid

-noncaring

-never shows (aside from a few times) that she deserves the element of loyalty

-she thinks she is better than the rest

-seriously, aside from the "fastest flyer thing" (wich is actually not true, Wonderbolts Academy proved so) she is no better than the rest

 

I even have more examples, these were just a few


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Posted 07 June 2015 - 06:59 PM

She has a lot of self-confidence, which is a very admirable trait.

There's a thin line between arrogance and confidence, which Rainbow Dash skirts very often.

 

She had the problem, for me, of being arrogant and a whiner. Also she's a racist to griffins.



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 07:02 PM

There's a thin line between arrogance and confidence, which Rainbow Dash skirts very often.

 

She had the problem, for me, of being arrogant and a whiner. Also she's a racist to griffins.

I wouldn't say she is racist towards girffons, i mean, Gilda was a terrible griffon, but Rainbow redeemed and forgave her in Season 5

 

By the way she is veeeeeery arrogant, she is more narcisist than confident


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Posted 07 June 2015 - 07:24 PM

I wouldn't say she is racist towards girffons, i mean, Gilda was a terrible griffon, but Rainbow redeemed and forgave her in Season 5

 

By the way she is veeeeeery arrogant, she is more narcisist than confident

She didn't want to go to Griffinstone based entirely on the fact there was griffins there.



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 07:26 PM

She didn't want to go to Griffinstone based entirely on the fact there was griffins there.

Cause she tought everyone was like Gilda, that does not justify it tough since they had to spread frienship she had to give an example, so yeah you have a point, Rainbow is the second worst pony in the show! (the first one is Flash Sentry)



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 07:27 PM

I think it has to do with, how she is stubborn and will go to great lengths to do what she wants/thinks should be done, even if what she is doing isn't the best choice. Which yeah makes her selfish and arrogant yes, but people love seeing  'Can do attitude' it shows that they can stand on there own even if their view point on the matter is flat wrong. She is athletic and very competitive which is another trait that she dances on the edge of; showing her un-sportsmanship when she is bested. She hold grudges big time going with her lack of trust in Discord/Gilda in their redemption episodes. She puts herself off as a stereotypical Tomboy all and all something I personally like. All her negativity traits grounds her personality and shows a lot of depth to her character which in turn makes her attractive. If you show people a White character that is 100% good and then show them a character that dances in the grey zone of morality, they will pick the Grey over the White due to them having flaws. People love to see protagonists with lots flaws. 

  Rainbowdash Shows off a lot of good in her, but every good trait is also clouded with her negative traits. Most of the other characters are more White then RD, the only other one that is close to RD is Rarity. Both are very well received characters. The others have their quirks that make them appealing but the personality's  the show appeal to other preferences that people find appealing or attractive. RD and Rarity's personality reflect a more grounded and more common personality type then the other just as equally stereotypical personality's. What I see etc, I could go on and on battle this and that and comparing this to that but I don't think you'd want a essay on this. Lol. 


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Posted 07 June 2015 - 07:30 PM

Cause she tought everyone was like Gilda, that does not justify it tough since they had to spread frienship she had to give an example, so yeah you have a point, Rainbow is the second worst pony in the show! (the first one is Flash Sentry)

Yeah, thinking everyone of a race is like one individual is racist.



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 07:34 PM

I think it has to do with, how she is stubborn and will go to great lengths to do what she wants/thinks should be done, even if what she is doing isn't the best choice. Which yeah makes her selfish and arrogant yes, but people love seeing  'Can do attitude' it shows that they can stand on there own even if their view point on the matter is flat wrong. She is athletic and very competitive which is another trait that she dances on the edge of; showing her un-sportsmanship when she is bested. She hold grudges big time going with her lack of trust in Discord/Gilda in their redemption episodes. She puts herself off as a stereotypical Tomboy all and all something I personally like. All her negativity traits grounds her personality and shows a lot of depth to her character which in turn makes her attractive. If you show people a White character that is 100% good and then show them a character that dances in the grey zone of morality, they will pick the Grey over the White due to them having flaws. People love to see protagonists with lots flaws. 

  Rainbowdash Shows off a lot of good in her, but every good trait is also clouded with her negative traits. Most of the other characters are more White then RD, the only other one that is close to RD is Rarity. Both are very well received characters. The others have their quirks that make them appealing but the personality's  the show appeal to other preferences that people find appealing or attractive. RD and Rarity's personality reflect a more grounded and more common personality type then the other just as equally stereotypical personality's. What I see etc, I could go on and on battle this and that and comparing this to that but I don't think you'd want a essay on this. Lol. 

1- She has more flaws than good things

2- If what you mean by depth is "i'm better than anyone" then yeah no

3- She is not as athletic as other charachters as shown in The Mysterious Mare Do Well and in Wonderbolts Accademy, also in Party of One she gets outrun by pinkie

4- The other characthers have just as much negative things as Rainbow

 

Yeah, thinking everyone of a race is like one individual is racist.

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Edited by danypony, 07 June 2015 - 07:40 PM.


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Posted 07 June 2015 - 07:43 PM

Not saying her good out weighs her flaws, Just saying people like to see a speck of good that they can cling onto. That whole I can fix them, I can make them better thing. The I'm better then anyone no. I'm saying her personality seems more grounded, its more common to see those traits in people then others. I can't tell you how many people I have met etc. That have a lot of the same traits RD has. Its soo common, I never said she was the most athletic, I just said she was athletic, also you got to remember 'Plot' outweighs showing the characters ability's.  To teach a lesson things are always exaggerated in stories. Pinkie breaks the 4th wall and teleports is fair to assume she has god like powers of sugar. Wonderbolts Academy they wanted to show RD putting down someone with her same, but worse version of her own personality, and all that other BS, Twilight can Teleport, And Aj is a bit faster the RD in running due to Earth Pony. 


Edited by Ms.Harshwhinny, 07 June 2015 - 07:44 PM.


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Posted 07 June 2015 - 07:46 PM

Not saying her good out weighs her flaws, Just saying people like to see a speck of good that they can cling onto. That whole I can fix them, I can make them better thing. The I'm better then anyone no. I'm saying her personality seems more grounded, its more common to see those traits in people then others. I can't tell you how many people I have met etc. That have a lot of the same traits RD has. Its soo common, I never said she was the most athletic, I just said she was athletic, also you got to remember 'Plot' outweighs showing the characters ability's.  To teach a lesson things are always exaggerated in stories. Pinkie breaks the 4th wall and teleports is fair to assume she has god like powers of sugar. Wonderbolts Academy they wanted to show RD putting down someone with her same, but worse version of her own personality, and all that other BS, Twilight can Teleport, And Aj is a bit faster the RD in running due to Earth Pony. 

 

Yeah i know that but usually people who think that are better than the rest think that everyone else is worse, Rainbow is no exception, no reason why he should be loved so much

 

Also i'm talking SHOW WISE so the 4th wall stuff and the faster but worse things are ok


Edited by danypony, 07 June 2015 - 07:47 PM.


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Posted 07 June 2015 - 07:52 PM

Those kinda of people grow on people like a blood sucking leach. People are weird and people like things. So People like Grey characters over Pure good characters like Fluttershy/Twilight, its just how it is even if it makes sense or not. If you want to try to see why go study psychology they have 1000's of books on ideas why Humans love morally ambiguous characters over the others. 


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Posted 07 June 2015 - 07:54 PM

Those kinda of people grow on people like a blood sucking leach. People are weird and people like things. So People like Grey characters over Pure good characters like Fluttershy/Twilight, its just how it is even if it makes sense or not. If you want to try to see why go study psychology they have 1000's of books on ideas why Humans love morally ambiguous characters over the others. 

then i'm not human, also you are calling Fluttershy and Twilight pure, please

 

i also read my fair share of books so... XD


Edited by danypony, 20 June 2015 - 08:05 PM.


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Posted 07 June 2015 - 09:50 PM

Those kinda of people grow on people like a blood sucking leach. People are weird and people like things. So People like Grey characters over Pure good characters like Fluttershy/Twilight, its just how it is even if it makes sense or not. If you want to try to see why go study psychology they have 1000's of books on ideas why Humans love morally ambiguous characters over the others. 

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Posted 07 June 2015 - 09:51 PM

I don't look at any one pony in the show, its more of a team effort that makes the chemestry how they interact

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Posted 07 June 2015 - 11:03 PM

This is how I view things now.

 

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Posted 08 June 2015 - 02:28 AM

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Posted 08 June 2015 - 05:12 AM

You can't use Pinkie Pie as an example against RD for athletics, since the first time she was shown to keep up with RD was in Griffon the Brush Off. She literally just did her normal jumping while RD was flying like a freaking fighter jet, yet she still beat RD to the location. Pinkie Pie and logic don't mix, like how pure sodium and water don't mix. Probably the reason why RD is well liked is because she best reflects most of human nature. We all have had moments like RD. There is no such thing as perfection in the real world and we all strive to be the best we can be. RD isn't perfect and she strives to be the best. Also the Wonderbolts aren't considered to be the "fastest" flyers, but the "best" flyers. RD wants to be considered one of the best, hence the reason why she wants to a member of the Wonderbolts. Everyone has goals they want to achieve. RD deeply cares for loved ones, which is an admirable trait, since I have seen quite a few people who don't give a shit about their loved ones. Best example of RD caring for loved ones would be Tanks for the Memories.

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Posted 08 June 2015 - 09:47 AM

You grew on us like a leach we can't pull off... 

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meh

On topic- people like arrogant characters, because it's reminds them of themselves (they want to be bold and do things without thinking of consequences) sorta a side of a lot of people that most recognize and endorse.

Also people like Rainbow because she's different from the other characters. She's bold, naive, narcissistic, but overall, not girly. Mostly males watch the show, or used to, and would see her role as the gender-barrier breakthrough. She's cool, she's fast, she's sporty. Some guys like girls like that. It's all based on psychology, like a comment before mine.

People like different things. She's an example of it.

 

Now, the show's just breaking through her personality and making her bleak and suitable for more rubbish episodes. She used to be better before, and wouldn't be subject to things like being made the obvious dumb-one in the episode. She's just being expanded further, and she's losing her real character, becoming a side-liner and a stabbing presence. It's all the show's fault, in reality. Sorry to say.

But i still love all the characters the same. I don't particularly have a favorite because they're all past a likable or relevant point to me. Like char said, it's the whole group together that makes up the chemistry of the show. I enjoy the show for the reason that it's not singling out a single character, who dulls down everyone else's personalities.

 

My rant is over :P


Edited by Royall, 08 June 2015 - 09:52 AM.


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Posted 08 June 2015 - 11:48 AM

So what you guys are saying is that, long story short she is the worst pony ever and that people like her cause they want to be the worst? Don't make me laugh

 

Rainbow is the worst pony ever


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Posted 08 June 2015 - 12:13 PM

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Posted 08 June 2015 - 02:54 PM

Danypony, I can't help but notice that you're questioning the validity of an opinion.



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Posted 08 June 2015 - 03:24 PM

So what you guys are saying is that, long story short she is the worst pony ever and that people like her cause they want to be the worst? Don't make me laugh
 
Rainbow is the worst pony ever


I pointed out the good things in her and yet you still act like we are wrong. You are starting to act a lot like Trixie by not being accepting of other people's opinions.

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Posted 08 June 2015 - 05:26 PM

Danypony, I can't help but notice that you're questioning the validity of an opinion.

I pointed out the good things in her and yet you still act like we are wrong. You are starting to act a lot like Trixie by not being accepting of other people's opinions.

 

I apologize if it felt like i was doing so, but i just don't see the good things, the Pinkie 4th wall thing is canon so it's vaild, the faster but worse thing is canon so it's valid, where are the good things about her?

 

also Trixie wasn't refusing other people opinions, she was just being worse than Rainbow when it comes down to being good with other ponies


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Posted 08 June 2015 - 06:26 PM

Btw my opinion is that Rainbow should get her element taken away and given to someone else, like Derpy  :derpytongue:



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Posted 08 June 2015 - 06:43 PM

Btw my opinion is that Rainbow should get her element taken away and given to someone else, like Derpy  :derpytongue:

Derpy sucks more than RD

 

I don't understand why a person would like someone for being like a version of them if they were insanely fast and brash, but I guess it's not my place to judge other peoples opinions.

 

I feel she should've been the element of honesty, though - she fits it a lot more than Applejack.



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Posted 08 June 2015 - 07:10 PM

I apologize if it felt like i was doing so, but i just don't see the good things, the Pinkie 4th wall thing is canon so it's vaild, the faster but worse thing is canon so it's valid, where are the good things about her?

We've said what good people see in her and you're still being stubborn and refusing all of her potentially positive traits.



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Posted 08 June 2015 - 07:20 PM

I personally am not a big fan of Rainbowdash myself, she is hot headed and all the things you mentioned, including selfish and disloyal in certain times…. FOR PETES SAKE! If anything Rainbowdash should have the element of honesty for the countless times she has blurted out things before even Apple Jack could be the honest one. In FACT Apple Jack is more loyal, to her family, to her friends and too the farm she was willing to sacrifice that giant apple for Fluttershy and risk a big opportunity in the BIG CITY for her farm which she loved so much. I think they should swap elements, then again I don’t dislike Rainbowdash, and she adds her part to the show and is quite a spice up character. I mean that joke, when twilight puts the necklace of loyalty on Spike, was no joke despite Spike being greedy by nature he is a lot more loyal. Let’s not forget with whom he has to deal with DAILY! Sure all of the Mane 6 have well... stereo typical attitudes. In the end this gives spice and taste to the characters and I like it, I like it a lot! It’s better than damn Flash Century who is a perfect example of a bland character, he is a goody two shoes yet with the bad boy look, in both the MLP world and the Human Alt world and is even economically stable as seen having a car in Equestria girls. This guy is like well flawless and it makes him boring! What makes a character a character is that person’s flaws and virtues. NO ONE IS PERFECT and so a character having flaws lets the audience connect with the character better, Rainbowdash has flaws many as you pointed out and that’s why people like her. Because they can connect with her! I rest my case!


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Posted 08 June 2015 - 07:28 PM

I personally am not a big fan of Rainbowdash myself, she is hot headed and all the things you mentioned, including selfish and disloyal in certain times…. FOR PETES SAKE! If anything Rainbowdash should have the element of honesty for the countless times she has blurted out things before even Apple Jack could be the honest one. In FACT Apple Jack is more loyal, to her family, to her friends and too the farm she was willing to sacrifice that giant apple for Fluttershy and risk a big opportunity in the BIG CITY for her farm which she loved so much. I think they should swap elements, then again I don’t dislike Rainbowdash, and she adds her part to the show and is quite a spice up character. I mean that joke, when twilight puts the necklace of loyalty on Spike, was no joke despite Spike being greedy by nature he is a lot more loyal. Let’s not forget with whom he has to deal with DAILY! Sure all of the Mane 6 have well... stereo typical attitudes. In the end this gives spice and taste to the characters and I like it, I like it a lot! It’s better than damn Flash Century who is a perfect example of a bland character, he is a goody two shoes yet with the bad boy look, in both the MLP world and the Human Alt world and is even economically stable as seen having a car in Equestria girls. This guy is like well flawless and it makes him boring! What makes a character a character is that person’s flaws and virtues. NO ONE IS PERFECT and so a character having flaws lets the audience connect with the character better, Rainbowdash has flaws many as you pointed out and that’s why people like her. Because they can connect with her! I rest my case!

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Posted 08 June 2015 - 07:36 PM

I personally am not a big fan of Rainbowdash myself, she is hot headed and all the things you mentioned, including selfish and disloyal in certain times…. FOR PETES SAKE! If anything Rainbowdash should have the element of honesty for the countless times she has blurted out things before even Apple Jack could be the honest one. In FACT Apple Jack is more loyal, to her family, to her friends and too the farm she was willing to sacrifice that giant apple for Fluttershy and risk a big opportunity in the BIG CITY for her farm which she loved so much. I think they should swap elements, then again I don’t dislike Rainbowdash, and she adds her part to the show and is quite a spice up character. I mean that joke, when twilight puts the necklace of loyalty on Spike, was no joke despite Spike being greedy by nature he is a lot more loyal. Let’s not forget with whom he has to deal with DAILY! Sure all of the Mane 6 have well... stereo typical attitudes. In the end this gives spice and taste to the characters and I like it, I like it a lot! It’s better than damn Flash Century who is a perfect example of a bland character, he is a goody two shoes yet with the bad boy look, in both the MLP world and the Human Alt world and is even economically stable as seen having a car in Equestria girls. This guy is like well flawless and it makes him boring! What makes a character a character is that person’s flaws and virtues. NO ONE IS PERFECT and so a character having flaws lets the audience connect with the character better, Rainbowdash has flaws many as you pointed out and that’s why people like her. Because they can connect with her! I rest my case!

 

Yeah i think they should swap elements too, but i personally like flaws, just not people who use flaws to look better, that is why i hate Rainbow

 

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Posted 08 June 2015 - 08:08 PM

We've said what good people see in her and you're still being stubborn and refusing all of her potentially positive traits.



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Posted 12 June 2015 - 12:58 PM

 

We've said what good people see in her and you're still being stubborn and refusing all of her potentially positive traits.

 

Nevermind. :(



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Posted 12 June 2015 - 05:03 PM

Yeah i think they should swap elements too, but i personally like flaws, just not people who use flaws to look better, that is why i hate Rainbow

 

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Wait wasn't it the first episode AJ had Loyalty and RD had Honesty then they swap it for some reason. 

 

Though people like traits or things that happen to a character that resembles them. World is filled with Narcissists, but could be that RD has a dream of being a wonderbolt. She tries to attain that dream and has a high focus on it. A lot of people have dreams and stride for their dream. Though a bunch of 90s kids might like her terms. Totally Awesome 

 

Meh what do I know. My favorite character is Luna



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Posted 12 June 2015 - 06:19 PM

Wait wasn't it the first episode AJ had Loyalty and RD had Honesty then they swap it for some reason. 

 

Though people like traits or things that happen to a character that resembles them. World is filled with Narcissists, but could be that RD has a dream of being a wonderbolt. She tries to attain that dream and has a high focus on it. A lot of people have dreams and stride for their dream. Though a bunch of 90s kids might like her terms. Totally Awesome 

 

Meh what do I know. My favorite character is Luna

 

God, i should have born earlier, at least in the 90s, by the way i respect the fact that Rainbow follows her dreams, i just can't get over her 1 good trait in 10000 bad traits personality, i mean, if she would say

 

"i'm flawed as hell but i am aware of it"

 

instead of

 

"i'm the bst prrson evar XDDDD LOLOLOLOLOL 360 MLG Quickscope"

 

then i might appreciate her character more, also aside from the first episode Rainbow showed very few times she actually deserves her element, also no, they didn't swap elements, you should probably rewatch all 100 episodes of mlp


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Posted 12 June 2015 - 06:30 PM

God, i should have born earlier, at least in the 90s, by the way i respect the fact that Rainbow follows her dreams, i just can't get over her 1 good trait in 10000 bad traits personality, i mean, if she would say

 

"i'm flawed as hell but i am aware of it"

 

instead of

 

"i'm the bst prrson evar XDDDD LOLOLOLOLOL 360 MLG Quickscope"

 

then i might appreciate her character more, also aside from the first episode Rainbow showed very few times she actually deserves her element


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do not bring MLG stuff into this, that stuff is obnoxious as heck and it annoys me.  Besides, she is not, she is more like "It needs to be about 20% cooler".  Also, first episode of season 5, she literally talks about the tropes we usually see in season openers that we don't see in this episode.  Like the fact she thinks a monster is behind, because fighting a monster would be epic. 

 

Also, it is just the fact that you keep ignoring the good things we bring up and keep focusing on the negatives.  Yes, we know she has flaws, but she also has good traits.  I mean, look at Wonderbolt Academy.  When her friends had almost got killed, she basically turned in her badge because of that.  But she taught Spitfire a lesson.  You can not have a good character without flaws.  Sometimes even a crap ton of flaws.  It is basically the Mary Sue/alicorn thing.  Being OP without flaws is just not that good compared to being slightly OP with flaws is interesting.



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Posted 12 June 2015 - 07:34 PM

do not bring MLG stuff into this, that stuff is obnoxious as heck and it annoys me.  Besides, she is not, she is more like "It needs to be about 20% cooler".  Also, first episode of season 5, she literally talks about the tropes we usually see in season openers that we don't see in this episode.  Like the fact she thinks a monster is behind, because fighting a monster would be epic. 

 

Also, it is just the fact that you keep ignoring the good things we bring up and keep focusing on the negatives.  Yes, we know she has flaws, but she also has good traits.  I mean, look at Wonderbolt Academy.  When her friends had almost got killed, she basically turned in her badge because of that.  But she taught Spitfire a lesson.  You can not have a good character without flaws.  Sometimes even a crap ton of flaws.  It is basically the Mary Sue/alicorn thing.  Being OP without flaws is just not that good compared to being slightly OP with flaws is interesting.

1-There are only 2 episodes where she actually shows loyalty

2-So for you, being a celebrity, super fast, owning one of elements of harmony, and the only pony with a rainbow mane isn't op? Also Twilight is not as much a mary sue as you say she is, i mean, she has gotten probably OCD, she is Worried about everything, she tryes to make people accept her ideas waaaay too much, she wants everything to be as she says, she is flippin' crazy, and a lot more, the difference is that she accepts it and does not hide the fact she is flawed

3-You just keep saying "we keep bringing up the good things and you don't accept them" but when i tell you to show me the good things you presumably said you don't reply

4-Pretty much every character has a crap ton of flaws, if people like flaws so much then why is Rainbow loved and Sombra isn't? He had flaws but he was not evil, if you read FIENDship is magic you would know that Sombra was good but was betrayed multiple times even by the girl he loved and corrupted by the shadows

5-Wanting so much to fight a villain clearly showed that she didn't give a crap about the people that were in the small town and just wanted to have fun herself, even if that would mean the town's inhabitants had been in the hands of a monster for years

 

Also just in case you guys don't understand what i'm saying (yeah i know i talk way too much ad end up off topic XD) what i'm saying is pretty much that i understand you guys have a point, but i don't see that point being that strong against mine, also since i'm usually the opposite of a "normal" person, whatever the hell that means, i think that i don't have to blame you either if you don't see my point immediately, yeah i see the good things, just not as many as the bad things


Edited by danypony, 20 June 2015 - 08:08 PM.


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Posted 12 June 2015 - 09:05 PM

1-There are only 2 episodes where she actually shows loyalty

2-So for you, being a celebrity, super fast, owning one of elements of harmony, and the only pony with a rainbow mane isn't op? Also Twilight is not as much a mary sue as you say she is, i mean, she has gotten probably OCD, she is Worried about everything, she tryes to make people accept her ideas waaaay too much, she wants everything to be as she says, she is flippin' crazy, and a lot more, the difference is that she accepts it and does not hide the fact she is flawed

3-You just keep saying "we keep bringing up the good things and you don't accept them" but when i tell you to show me the good things you presumably said you don't reply

4-Pretty much every character has a crap ton of flaws, if people like flaws so much then why is Rainbow loved and Sombra isn't? He had flaws but he was not evil, if you read FIENDship is magic you would know that Sombra was good but was betrayed multiple times and corrupted by the shadows

5-Wanting so much to fight a villain clearly showed that she didn't give a crap about the people that were in the small town and just wanted to have fun herself, even if that would mean the town's inhabitants had been in the hands of a monster for years

 

Also just in case you guys don't understand what i'm saying (yeah i know i talk way too much ad end up off topic XD) what i'm saying is pretty much that i understand you guys have a point, but i don't see that point being that strong against mine, also since i'm usually the opposite of a "normal" person, whatever the hell that means, i think that i don't have to blame you either if you don't see my point immediately, yeah i see the good things, just not as many as the bad things

I wasn't talking about Twilight being OP, I was just talking about Alicorn OCs in general.  Also, no one on here is normal, we are all Bronies (or Pegasisters), which doesn't count towards being normal.  .



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Posted 12 June 2015 - 10:36 PM

"only pony with a rainbow mane"

 

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 10:38 PM

"only pony with a rainbow mane"

 

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Don't forget Celestia!!!



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Posted 12 June 2015 - 11:34 PM

Don't forget Celestia!!!

Celestia doesn't have a rainbow mane. 



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Posted 12 June 2015 - 11:42 PM

Even a pink, green, and blue mane can count as rainbow colored.



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Posted 12 June 2015 - 11:51 PM

The fact that Rainbow knows that she has flaws makes her character much better. A character that has all good things, or doesn't know what its flaws are, doesn't really make sense, even in a TV show like MLP.

 

I take a class specifically for TV, and the things we've gone over with characters is that what you would like Rainbow Dash to have really just wouldn't be good.

 

Flaws are things characters have, but they also need flaws. Without them, then they would be the "mlg 360" whatever humbojumbo.

 

Perhaps you don't like her personality, or the fact that she has flaws. But every TV show needs diversity. We can't have a show full of Twilight Sparkles or Applejacks, them all being the same.

 

I've recently been watching a lot of Lost lately, and I've noticed a character named Sawyer, who usually thinks he's better than others, and he takes things from people and puts it in a pile of stuff. Now, I'm not saying those characters are exactly alike, but without them to sort of be the outlier, the show would just be boring.

 

So next time, when starting an argument, do some logical research. And don't trust theory videos unless their canon. Or else they're dumb. Unless their backstory headcanon videos. Then they're cool.

 

People are different. I wouldn't be surprised if you knew someone at, I don't know, school? The town pool? Who exhibit similar is not the same traits. 



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Posted 13 June 2015 - 02:06 PM

Long ass reply list:

Spoiler

Ok one at a time:

1-Rainbow's Dad is of the same family so he does not count, also Celestia doesn't have a rainbow mane

2-Normal persons can be Bronies too, only that "normal" persons follows fads, i don't

3-I didn't take that from a Youtube headcanon theory, and i did some logical search

4-You say Rainbow knows he has flaws (wich is not even true) and after that you say she doesn't know she has flaws and thinks she is the best?

5-Alicorns aren't op, Celestia has regrets, Luna was banished to the moon and was corrupted, Cadence needs love and apparently can't live without it, don't even let me start on Twily

6-Rainbow was probably meant to be the hated one, but since everyone is like her (apparently) she is loved more than she should be, not loved at all


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Posted 13 June 2015 - 03:04 PM

I don't think you understand, without different personalities, the show is boring. You see, in everything from a book to a movie and TV show, there needs to be diversity. Or else the show is one of only a few different characters, and then they get boring after a while. For example, would you want to have characters who only have the personalities of Fluttershy and Rarity? No, no one does. Because then it gets boring.

 

When people get together to write a show, they think of ways to make the show interesting, to keep a plot in. So they introduce a character, Rainbow Dash, who has certain problems, and has a certain personality.

 

In order to make things interesting, every single character needs flaws, and a personality that isn't iconic. Without some outlier like Rainbow Dash, imagine how much the show wouldn't be watched. Imagine just the other five. And the amount of shows lost because of Rainbow's problems and flaws. You've all seen the hats and T-Shirts and fanfics and what not on Rainbow Dash. Without her, the show wouldn't be much.

 

When you think about certain characters, sometimes you shouldn't think about what they are as a character, but what they do to affect the show. A character having problems makes a plot, and doesn't make the show repeatable. And it also makes people watch the show because it has a good plot, therefore making the show more popular and you make more money.

 

That's the TV Industry for you. Honestly, MLP did very well with making Rainbow Dash who she is. She isn't my personal favorite, but she still is a good character, no matter how many flaws. Without  flaws, characters would be boring, and in the RP sense, very much OP. This is something the writers pour hours in to.



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Posted 14 June 2015 - 02:05 AM

1-Rainbow's Dad is of the same family so he does not count, also Celestia doesn't have a rainbow mane

Who's to say he's her dad?



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Posted 14 June 2015 - 05:27 PM

I don't think you understand, without different personalities, the show is boring. You see, in everything from a book to a movie and TV show, there needs to be diversity. Or else the show is one of only a few different characters, and then they get boring after a while. For example, would you want to have characters who only have the personalities of Fluttershy and Rarity? No, no one does. Because then it gets boring.

 

When people get together to write a show, they think of ways to make the show interesting, to keep a plot in. So they introduce a character, Rainbow Dash, who has certain problems, and has a certain personality.

 

In order to make things interesting, every single character needs flaws, and a personality that isn't iconic. Without some outlier like Rainbow Dash, imagine how much the show wouldn't be watched. Imagine just the other five. And the amount of shows lost because of Rainbow's problems and flaws. You've all seen the hats and T-Shirts and fanfics and what not on Rainbow Dash. Without her, the show wouldn't be much.

 

When you think about certain characters, sometimes you shouldn't think about what they are as a character, but what they do to affect the show. A character having problems makes a plot, and doesn't make the show repeatable. And it also makes people watch the show because it has a good plot, therefore making the show more popular and you make more money.

 

That's the TV Industry for you. Honestly, MLP did very well with making Rainbow Dash who she is. She isn't my personal favorite, but she still is a good character, no matter how many flaws. Without  flaws, characters would be boring, and in the RP sense, very much OP. This is something the writers pour hours in to.

 

In fact they don't need to be the same, they just need to make Rainbow understand she is noone.

Also the "Amazing" amount of time they put in making her character is actually 3 seconds, look, i can do that too:

*insert name here* thinks she is better than anyone when in reality she is no better than anyone else.

There.

 

Who's to say he's her dad?

 

Meghan McCarthy (i think) stated so a bit of time ago .-.


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Posted 14 June 2015 - 06:47 PM

In fact they don't need to be the same, they just need to make Rainbow understand she is noone.

Also the "Amazing" amount of time they put in making her character is actually 3 seconds, look, i can do that too:

*insert name here* thinks she is better than anyone when in reality she is no better than anyone else.

There.

 

I highly doubt that's what the show writers did. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it took them days, if not more, to even figure out how to portray her personality. Anyway, how would you know? Do you have some agent looking at the writers every time they're coming up with ideas? I mean, honestly, just accept the fact that she's there, she's a character, she has a personality, and the writers made her like that because that's what they did.

 

If a bunch of people who are 100% more professional than you makes a character that launches the show to great heights and has virtually no haters except for people like you, then why are you arguing? The fact that you're arguing makes no sense at all. You can't remove characters like that anyway. It would kill off the show. Would you rather have a good show, with a great, caring fandom, with a single character you don't like or a show that is boring, has not good plot points, and a failing, non existent fandom? I had said this before, and I will say it again, Rainbow Dash is probably one of the most influential characters in the show. Without her, or a character with her personality, the show would never have came to be what it is. And that is my professional opinion on this matter.



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Posted 15 June 2015 - 01:21 AM

She's like the Bender of MLP. She's a hilarious jerk. You need to get a sense of humor. 


In other words, she thinks she is better than anyone else, not admirable.

 

Tirek also had a lot of self confidence, so is Rainbow a villan? I don't think so.

 

Also if you move your cursor over the traits in my previous post it'll tell you the episode:

 

-she is selfish

-stupid

-noncaring

-never shows (aside from a few times) that she deserves the element of loyalty

-she thinks she is better than the rest

-seriously, aside from the "fastest flyer thing" (wich is actually not true, Wonderbolts Academy proved so) she is no better than the rest

 

I even have more examples, these were just a few

She's way better at being Loyal than Rarity is at being generous. I can name many times she showed loyalty. I can name maybe two times Rarity was Generous, and they weren't that big.

 

Besides, slef-confidence /=/ I'm better than everyone. Wanting to do something with ther life does not make her a bad pony, neither does picking on her friends. All friends tease each other a little. It's part of the fun of friends. You are grasping at straws, pal.



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Posted 15 June 2015 - 01:44 AM

I'm starting to question the intelligence and attention span of some people in this thread now.



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Posted 15 June 2015 - 01:46 AM

I'm starting to question the intelligence and attention span of some people in this thread now.


Hence the reason why I stopped responding.

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Posted 15 June 2015 - 10:46 AM

Hence the reason why I stopped responding.


Apperently, I'm prone to continue arguments.

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Posted 20 June 2015 - 09:29 AM

I highly doubt that's what the show writers did. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it took them days, if not more, to even figure out how to portray her personality. Anyway, how would you know? Do you have some agent looking at the writers every time they're coming up with ideas? I mean, honestly, just accept the fact that she's there, she's a character, she has a personality, and the writers made her like that because that's what they did.

 

If a bunch of people who are 100% more professional than you makes a character that launches the show to great heights and has virtually no haters except for people like you, then why are you arguing? The fact that you're arguing makes no sense at all. You can't remove characters like that anyway. It would kill off the show. Would you rather have a good show, with a great, caring fandom, with a single character you don't like or a show that is boring, has not good plot points, and a failing, non existent fandom? I had said this before, and I will say it again, Rainbow Dash is probably one of the most influential characters in the show. Without her, or a character with her personality, the show would never have came to be what it is. And that is my professional opinion on this matter.

 

She's like the Bender of MLP. She's a hilarious jerk. You need to get a sense of humor. 


She's way better at being Loyal than Rarity is at being generous. I can name many times she showed loyalty. I can name maybe two times Rarity was Generous, and they weren't that big.

 

Besides, slef-confidence /=/ I'm better than everyone. Wanting to do something with ther life does not make her a bad pony, neither does picking on her friends. All friends tease each other a little. It's part of the fun of friends. You are grasping at straws, pal.

 

Ok i'm starting to see the point in her character, but that doesn't justify why she is so recognized, other characthers are way more comic than her and yet get no recognition

 

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Posted 20 June 2015 - 10:48 AM

mmmm all this fighting is making me thirsty

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Posted 20 June 2015 - 12:17 PM

mmmm all this fighting is making me thirsty

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What fighting? we are just arguing, it's friendly, you don't wanna become the next Starlight Glimmer do you?


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Posted 20 June 2015 - 02:22 PM

I think the reason why Rainbow is so recognized is because of her rainbow mane. The first thing most non-bronies think about MLP is Rainbow Dash, since she stands out the most with that rainbow colored mane.

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Posted 20 June 2015 - 03:59 PM

I just think is that there are many in the world who think they have the same flaws as her. Or maybe they think she is cool, since that's how she acts. There could be many possibilities, and everyone has different ones for it.



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Posted 20 June 2015 - 05:42 PM

I just think is that there are many in the world who think they have the same flaws as her. Or maybe they think she is cool, since that's how she acts. There could be many possibilities, and everyone has different ones for it.

Yeah but i just can't see any, people keep telling me that it's because she has flaws wich make her human (or should i say... pony) but other characters have waaaaay more flaws.

 

I think the reason why Rainbow is so recognized is because of her rainbow mane. The first thing most non-bronies think about MLP is Rainbow Dash, since she stands out the most with that rainbow colored mane.

Yeah but she is recognized even in the Brony fandom as much as she is for non Bronies, if you are a brony you should know that she is just a tiny fraction of the show, i would even go ahead and say that she is more recognized in the Brony fandom than anywhere else, so what you just said doesn't make sense, also i'm not saying that she shouldn't be a character, just that she is a small character with less flaws and less detailed personality than others, hence why i think she shouldn't be recognized, there are charachters more arcticulated than her with a lot more flaws (also she is not the worst pony ever, i was just joking there XD but she is definately not the best one either).


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Posted 20 June 2015 - 08:11 PM

Also why is Rainbow at the top of every page? why can't the ponies cycle?

 

Example:

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And if that's not possible (cause updating the page everyday can be a pain) then why can't we just have the generic mane six photo seen in the title song?


Also it would be a great idea for an episode to make Rainbow step down a little and accept her flaws, at that point i might actually like her character


Edited by danypony, 20 June 2015 - 08:12 PM.


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Posted 20 June 2015 - 10:55 PM

Also why is Rainbow at the top of every page? why can't the ponies cycle?

 

Example:

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And if that's not possible (cause updating the page everyday can be a pain) then why can't we just have the generic mane six photo seen in the title song?


Also it would be a great idea for an episode to make Rainbow step down a little and accept her flaws, at that point i might actually like her character

 

That is only the Cloudsdale theme, I am using the Luna theme, which has Luna at the top.



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Posted 20 June 2015 - 10:58 PM

Also why is Rainbow at the top of every page? why can't the ponies cycle?

 

Example:

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And if that's not possible (cause updating the page everyday can be a pain) then why can't we just have the generic mane six photo seen in the title song?


Also it would be a great idea for an episode to make Rainbow step down a little and accept her flaws, at that point i might actually like her character

Why Derpy? Why not a character actually relevant to the story, like Spike?



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Posted 20 June 2015 - 11:11 PM

Also why is Rainbow at the top of every page? why can't the ponies cycle?

 

Example:

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And if that's not possible (cause updating the page everyday can be a pain) then why can't we just have the generic mane six photo seen in the title song?


Also it would be a great idea for an episode to make Rainbow step down a little and accept her flaws, at that point i might actually like her character

oh my goodness



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Posted 21 June 2015 - 06:03 AM

The reason why everyone likes me (jk) the reason why everyone likes RainbowDash is because she likes to be "cool" and she has lots of confidence in her. Nothing brings her down. Also, her mane is rainbow colored, which presents the elements of harmony, because the elements of harmony is rainbow colored. People love RainbowDash because she had the mane 6 get their cutie marks with her sonic rainboom. Speaking OF the sonic rainboom, it's freaking awesome, no pony can do it unless their fast as RainbowDash. Honestly, my favorite character is PinkiePie. But I chose RainbowDash as my cc for minecraft because PinkiePie is a earth pony, she does do anything (no offense) but I LOVE PinkiePie's fun loving personality. The most thing why people love RainbowDash are her good personalitys, the rainbow mane, VERY fast flying, and the sonic rainboom. But I hate her flaws, I agree with you but this character is so original. I could go on and on about this whol situation. For a fact my top 3 ponies is 1.pinkiepie
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Posted 21 June 2015 - 07:21 AM

This thread is like the exact opposite of this thread which we had to lock. Because threads like these don't lead to anything productive and just make people upset about a made up character.

 

Also why is Rainbow at the top of every page? why can't the ponies cycle?

 

Example:

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And if that's not possible (cause updating the page everyday can be a pain) then why can't we just have the generic mane six photo seen in the title song?


Also it would be a great idea for an episode to make Rainbow step down a little and accept her flaws, at that point i might actually like her character

 

Now, look. Every character in MLP has their character traits. Depending on your personal preferences, you may adore some and not care for others. And that's fine. RD is personally my least favorite of the Mane 6. But I know her character and I can see why some people love it.  But this whole thing about needing to bring down a character because she is apparently too good and that too  many people love her? 

 

Rainbow Dash is a character we have seen before: a cocky, flashy star who loves attention, but that's her weakness as well, because she needs that attention to believe in herself. She also balances fame and being loyal to her roots. She's got weaknesses, she has flaws. The rest of the mane 6 knows she has flaws and they accept them. Rainbow Dash herself knows she has flaws. They have made numerous jokes about it and dedicated an entire episode to her learning to be humble (even if it was bad). Her cockiness is a running joke at this point. Her fans know this (unless they are really dumb) and able to "say yes she's not perfect but i like her anyway". Which is perfectly fine.

 

and Rainbow Dash is on the header because its a Cloudsdale themed page, not because we think shes better than any other character. Our Nighttime in Canterlot theme features Luna.
 

But I chose RainbowDash as my cc for minecraft because PinkiePie is a earth pony, she does do anything (no offense) but I LOVE PinkiePie's fun loving personality. 
 

 

And that is RACISM. 

 

At least I think it is. I can't actually understand what you were trying to say.



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Posted 22 June 2015 - 07:30 PM

The reason why everyone likes me (jk) the reason why everyone likes RainbowDash is because she likes to be "cool" and she has lots of confidence in her. Nothing brings her down. Also, her mane is rainbow colored, which presents the elements of harmony, because the elements of harmony is rainbow colored. People love RainbowDash because she had the mane 6 get their cutie marks with her sonic rainboom. Speaking OF the sonic rainboom, it's freaking awesome, no pony can do it unless their fast as RainbowDash. Honestly, my favorite character is PinkiePie. But I chose RainbowDash as my cc for minecraft because PinkiePie is a earth pony, she does do anything (no offense) but I LOVE PinkiePie's fun loving personality. The most thing why people love RainbowDash are her good personalitys, the rainbow mane, VERY fast flying, and the sonic rainboom. But I hate her flaws, I agree with you but this character is so original. I could go on and on about this whol situation. For a fact my top 3 ponies is 1.pinkiepie
2.twilight sparkle
3.rainbowdash
I hope this has solved you're question of why people are so obsessed with me *AHEM* obsessed with RainbowDash

"Rainbow is totally not op"


That is only the Cloudsdale theme, I am using the Luna theme, which has Luna at the top.

Why don't we have a Twilight/Ponyville theme then? It should be the default! Twilight is basically the protagonist and Ponyville is the main place in the show! (altough that would seem a lot like you are having Twilight as a favourite so maybe a generic theme? Why not?)


Reply to MrButternubs long ass post:

Spoiler

Yeah i do accept her character, i don't reaaaaaalllly hate her, i was just kidding XD but i think she is the worst of the mane 6, if she would have been a redeemed villain or would have stepped down a little then i might actually like her more, also were does she exactly show weakness, what episode?


Edited by danypony, 22 June 2015 - 07:35 PM.


#66 Dragonshine

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Posted 23 June 2015 - 07:27 AM

She's probably liked because she 20% cooler than awesome

#67 danypony

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    Twilight Sparkle is the best pony!!!

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Posted 23 June 2015 - 01:01 PM

She's probably liked because she 20% cooler than awesome

In other words it's like pop music, it sucks but as long as people think it's "hip" everybody listens to it (go listen some Bee Gees kids)

 

also you basically are proving my point by just repeating over and over the same thing (also what is that 20% cooler thing supposed to mean, why is she so cool?).

 

the only episodes in wich i enjoy Rainbow are very few, for instance "Wonderbolts academy" cause she was actually a good character there and "The lost treasure of Griffonstone" cause come on, that Twilight imitation was just adorable


Edited by danypony, 23 June 2015 - 01:05 PM.


#68 danypony

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    Twilight Sparkle is the best pony!!!

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Posted 23 June 2015 - 07:34 PM

Why Derpy? Why not a character actually relevant to the story, like Spike?

Because this is a community forum, and Derpy is mostly made by the community, also Spike could be in the Twilight theme



#69 _MidnightStorm_

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 01:50 PM

cus skittles



#70 WovewyWoona

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Posted 11 November 2015 - 01:27 AM

I've noticed that a lot of people, when they first get into the show, go through the "Rainbow Dash Phase." This is where their favorite pony is Rainbow Dash. Usually, it wears off after a month or so. Sometimes, RD sticks as their favorite. Maybe it's just because everyone knows that one specific pony. I went through the RD phase, all of my pegasister friends did, and one never left it. Anyone else have the RD phase, or am I just jumping to conclusions? XD



#71 Iggie_

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Posted 11 November 2015 - 06:43 AM

I had that phase but it was longer than a month and I didn't like her because she was "awesome" and "the best". I liked her voice and her laugh and tbh, I still do.

#72 BackwaterOtter

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Posted 11 November 2015 - 10:08 PM

I never went through it
I know I'm weird...
Wait.
Does that make me not a true brony?


Answer to title of the thread: Because they can.


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