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#1 Luna Lens

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 07:28 PM

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The time is here. If you're running a legit copy of Windows 7 or 8, you should probably start getting update notifications soon. reddit.com/r/Microsoftsoftwareswap sells keys for as little as a tenth of the price of the OS, but like eBay or Craigslist you need to be careful from who you buy. If you REALLY want Windows 10 you should go there.

It's not acceptable to be paying as much as $200US when you are the product.

 

Make no mistake. Windows has been dumbed down...again. Settings you could change before now have to be modified in the registry, such as toggling the lockscreen and changing the title bar color. However, if you regularly play games, it's more than worth it to go through the process of installing the OS and then disabling all the NSA crap. Demanding games like GTA V, The Witcher 3, and Project Cars perform noticeably better than on older OS's, and most of these games--at this time--haven't even been optimized for Dx12 yet, so hopefully there will be even more performance boosts (if you have the hardware) if and when they are optimized for Dx12.

 

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Using the upgrade process will turn your key into an OEM key (if it isn't already one.) This means you will have to re-purchase Windows if you change major hardware components.

 

Update: it seems Microsoft is just making it confusing. This should allow you to reinstall without re-purchasing Windows. However, changing hardware invalidates the free upgrade. GG, Microsoft.

http://answers.micro...c0d6290a?auth=1

 

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[PENTIUM G3258 USERS] There is a known incompatibility bug with this processor.

http://www.techpower...clocked.214699/

 

This megathread covers basically everything, it links to all past Windows 10 megathreads and replaces the older megathread I posted.

https://www.reddit.c...nal_megathread/

 

Installation tools

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programs and resources to get rid of annoying things

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Here you go! a video. The no-bullcrap desktop and start menu are back (wtf were you thinking, removing it, Microsoft?)

Remember, you don't even have to deal with the metro apps if you don't want.



....and here are all the logos in one GIF.

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Edited by Luna Lens, 10 October 2015 - 06:57 AM.


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Posted 28 July 2015 - 07:49 PM

One thing I don't see being talked about is, why upgrade? Does everyone assume the newer version is better, despite what a steamy pile of shit Windows 8 is compared to 7? I'm not using a tablet, I have an actual keyboard and mouse, what's the point of 8 or 10?
Did they actually do a good job this time? I remember what a nightmare Vista was, or was that so long ago everyone forgot already? When I see someone running Windows 8, they usually end up installing various 3rd party hacks to make it usable, like one to bring back a usable start menu.

If anyone wants to get rid of that annoying tasktray icon that is pushing Windows 10 on you like a meth dealer, just go to add/remove programs, and remove KB3035583. Then go into windows update and if you see KB3035583 in the list, rightclick it and do "ignore update". I did this months ago, but sometimes it comes back. But its easy enough to remove when it does.

If anyone feels like defending Microsoft, its shit like this that has me weary of anything free from Microsoft.
http://kotaku.com/59...n-to-play-along
Does Windows 10 make apps have to "certify" also?

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 07:51 PM

8 i modded with classic shell, it works the same as 7 but actually faster in terms of boot up and shutdown times, as well as fixed some issues with older games, 10 im going to install on my spare laptop just to see what its like, so i don't have to technically update at all per say, but sample it without hassel

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#4 Luna Lens

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 07:55 PM

8 i modded with classic shell, it works the same as 7 but actually faster in terms of boot up and shutdown times, as well as fixed some issues with older games,

 

I vouch for classic shell as well.

 

As for 10, I've been following the previews, and I like it. I suppose it depends on who you ask, but I feel like Windows 10 is what 8 should have been. On top of that it will support DirectX 12, which something I want. 



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 08:28 PM

I guess the trick worked with Windows 7, where they refused to release DirectX 10 for XP, even though there were hacker-made builds for it. So it was not like they couldn't release it, but they used it as an excuse to force people to upgrade. I had to upgrade from XP against my will because I wanted to play Just Cause 2, and it was DX10 only. So I guess it will be the same with Windows 10, eventually there will be a game that comes out that I want to play, and I'll be forced to "upgrade" to a tablet interface that I have to get a fucking 3rd party app to make it usable. Windows already boots in 3 seconds, if Windows 10 cuts that down to 2, its really not worth it for to fill up my smallish 500G SSD with nonsense I won't want.

#6 Luna Lens

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 08:42 PM

It's not a tablet interface. Even on Windows 8 I haven't touched or looked at a single metro app since I installed the OS. Windows 10 brings back the start menu, at least.

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 09:06 PM

I vouch for classic shell as well.
 
As for 10, I've been following the previews, and I like it. I suppose it depends on who you ask, but I feel like Windows 10 is what 8 should have been. On top of that it will support DirectX 12, which something I want.


Ditto on classic shell. I'm ok with Win8, it ain't terrible.

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 10:13 PM

Ditto on classic shell. I'm ok with Win8, it ain't terrible.



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Posted 29 July 2015 - 01:13 AM

I'll be forced to "upgrade" to a tablet interface that I have to get a fucking 3rd party app to make it usable.


Did literally all of you miss that I acknowledged you can work around the problem?
My point was that... Actually, I think I'll stop posting now, you're all going to reply to things I didn't say anyway so why bother. If there's some refuting of the points I actually made, I can reply to those.

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 01:35 AM

Did literally all of you miss that I acknowledged you can work around the problem?
My point was that... Actually, I think I'll stop posting now, you're all going to reply to things I didn't say anyway so why bother. If there's some refuting of the points I actually made, I can reply to those.

 

That's what I was trying to say, though I should have been a bit more clear on it. They brought back the start menu. On desktop computers, you get a normal, non-clusterfuck desktop interface. Yes, it has metro apps along the side, but you can remove them and not acknowledge them at all, no 3rd-party software required.

 

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 01:42 AM

That's what I was trying to say, though I should have been a bit more clear on it. They brought back the start menu. On desktop computers, you get a normal, non-clusterfuck desktop interface. Yes, it has metro apps along the side, but you can remove them and not acknowledge them at all, no 3rd-party software required.
 
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thats actually very nice of them tbh, instead of just trying to force it on us

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 01:56 AM

Why do they always do this? Instead of keeping the good original features they wait for us to get used to being without them and then re-implement them.



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Posted 29 July 2015 - 02:00 AM

Minecraft: Windows 10 Edition



#14 Luna Lens

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 02:39 AM

Why do they always do this? Instead of keeping the good original features they wait for us to get used to being without them and then re-implement them.


Welcome to the world of modern electronics.

Minecraft: Windows 10 Edition


I won't be touching this with a 10-meter pole. It doesn't exist, for all I care.

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 02:41 AM

Did literally all of you miss that I acknowledged you can work around the problem?
My point was that... Actually, I think I'll stop posting now, you're all going to reply to things I didn't say anyway so why bother. If there's some refuting of the points I actually made, I can reply to those.

Windows 8 feels more stable to me. It may have been my hardware, but Windows 7 always suffered problems whenever updates came around. I don't know how many rollbacks I had to do when some update messed shit up, I haven't had to do any on Windows 8. Windows Explorer having built-in access to read disc images has also been convenient. Alt-tabbing out of fullscreen applications is a bit smoother, so is is borderless windowed gaming. So at least for me, upgrading has been worth it, on top of the much faster restarts as others mentioned.



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Posted 29 July 2015 - 03:54 AM

Those improvements are nice and all--I love the fact that it boots in under 15 seconds on my mechanical hard drive. That's not the point of what he's saying though. The interface can make or break an OS. For the longest time, I myself refused to upgrade because of the metro UI. That's why I'm really looking forward to Windows 10. I'm getting the speed of 8 with an interface that actually makes sense, and I don't have to install 3rd-party software. Classic Shell is nice, but it's common to have a big delay between clicking the start button and having the start menu appear, which is pretty annoying.

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 04:12 AM

Those improvements are nice and all--I love the fact that it boots in under 15 seconds on my mechanical hard drive. That's not the point of what he's saying though. The interface can make or break an OS. For the longest time, I myself refused to upgrade because of the metro UI. That's why I'm really looking forward to Windows 10. I'm getting the speed of 8 with an interface that actually makes sense, and I don't have to install 3rd-party software. Classic Shell is nice, but it's common to have a big delay between clicking the start button and having the start menu appear, which is pretty annoying.

if it wasnt for classic shell, id still never touch it tbh



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Posted 29 July 2015 - 04:13 AM

We use win8 at work, albeit with classic shell, in addition to me having it on my computer at home. I think the only problem I ever experienced with Win8 was getting stuck on an update that froze. I left it for eight hours overnight and in the end had to do a system reboot on my laptop. It updated fine thereafter, so maybe I fucked it up myself or something during said update.

#19 Luna Lens

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 04:20 AM

Nah. Windows updater in Windows 8 is just weird. I've had it stick at 0 for an hour before suddenly jumping to 100, and I'm using an ISO straight from Microsoft.



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Posted 29 July 2015 - 05:07 AM

Looks like someone's already figured out a way to force the update

 

EDIT: That's complicated and doesn't seem to work. Have this instead,

http://windows.micro...on-tool-install


Edited by Luna Lens, 30 July 2015 - 04:59 PM.


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Posted 29 July 2015 - 06:37 AM

Looks like someone's already figured out a way to force the update

 

http://pocketnow.com...ndows-10-update

Well that's useful



#22 Night_Breeze

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 06:44 AM

Will wait a couple months to update

I'm happily not using Windows anyway

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#23 LongSleeves

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 08:32 AM

My desktop is running servers like a boss. The last thing I need is some software update Fucking my system up with incompatibilities. I will update my laptop and if it can still run games like dwarf fortress without me spending an hour and a half telling it all the files are there then I'll consider it.

 

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 04:45 PM

Huh, I wonder if Steam is compatible with Windows 10...



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Posted 29 July 2015 - 05:03 PM

Huh, I wonder if Steam is compatible with Windows 10...


Worked for me on the dev previews. Some games didn't work though

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 06:07 PM

I just installed it. It looks meh so far, it's going to take some serious getting used to.



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Posted 29 July 2015 - 07:01 PM

I doubt Mount & Blade will work on windows 10 so I won't be updating for a long while

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 07:59 PM

Can I install 10 to my second HD & keep 7?

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 08:29 PM

Here are the ISOs.

https://www.microsof...ad/windows10ISO

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 08:48 PM

those are tiny iso's

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#31 Luna Lens

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 09:43 PM

Not much smaller than Win 8

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 10:27 AM

Windows 10 so far for me has been pretty neat, just waiting for them to get aero glass in, and as far as i can tell most applications should keep on working just fine but you may have to manually install your graphics drivers if you have intel HD. The new audio drivers are actually really amazing and better than what they sounded on windows 8. So far for me I like it.



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Posted 30 July 2015 - 10:34 AM

I'm just sitting here on Windows 7.



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Posted 30 July 2015 - 01:47 PM

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Despicable as 4chan usually is, this is a pretty good summary of why you shouldn't get Win10



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Posted 30 July 2015 - 03:11 PM

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Despicable as 4chan usually is, this is a pretty good summary of why you shouldn't get Win10

That is a shitload of whining over stuff that you can easily turn off or are inconsequential.



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Posted 30 July 2015 - 03:24 PM

That is a shitload of whining over stuff that you can easily turn off or are inconsequential.

This is a short post dismissing legitimate concerns that are contradicted by the very post that is being dismissed.

EDIT- Fuck me I'm tired. Lemme rephrase-

This is a short post dismissing legitimate concerns despite said dismissal being contradicted by the very post being dismissed.


Edited by Hieros Godhead, 30 July 2015 - 03:34 PM.


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 04:02 PM

This is a short post dismissing legitimate concerns that are contradicted by the very post that is being dismissed.

EDIT- Fuck me I'm tired. Lemme rephrase-

This is a short post dismissing legitimate concerns despite said dismissal being contradicted by the very post being dismissed.

 

"Legitimate concerns" my fucking ass, that's a list compiled by paranoid conspiracy theorists if I've ever seen one.

 

Want me to make it longer then?

 

1. You can disable the P2P updating, not to mention the fact that accusations of Windows Update being used to spread malware are completely unfounded.

 

2. Yes, you can disable telemetry, and I have already done so.

 

3. Whining about not being able to disable Defender is incredibly stupid. Defender is harmless. It doesn't even interfere with my real anti-virus. Whining about sending information to Microsoft is paranoid stupidity from teenagers that don't even have information worth stealing.

 

4. Cortana requires a Microsoft Account - uh, big deal? So, don't use the fancy new feature unless you don't want to? The local search function is still there, the only things that require the online connection are the online aspects of the program. What, is Cortana supposed to display you recent news and updates without connecting to the internet?

 

5. Content suggestions are removed in the normal process of customizing your start menu.

 

6. Wifi sense is easily disabled.



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Posted 30 July 2015 - 04:10 PM

This is a short post dismissing legitimate concerns despite said dismissal being contradicted by the very post being dismissed.


You're not going to make him see that, just give up now, less stress that way.

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 04:10 PM

The way to install Windows 10 wasn't working for me, but this seems to work.

 

https://www.microsof...nload/windows10



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Posted 30 July 2015 - 04:14 PM

BTW If anyone tries to use it in Virtualbox, upgrading an existing Windows 7 VM, make sure to change the profile to Windows 10 or you'll get an error saying "You can’t install Windows 8.1 Preview because your processor doesn’t support CompareExchange128". Now at least I have a nice test environment in case I need to help any customers at work find this or that menu.

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 04:31 PM

You're not going to make him see that, just give up now, less stress that way.

Really? Half of them was complaining about the default settings, the other half was complaining about "sending information to Microsoft". How is any of that a legitimate concern? What, you can't be bothered to spend ten minutes changing the settings when you install a new OS? The only one that comes close to being legitimate is Telemetry, which can't be turned off as a standard setting. 



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Posted 30 July 2015 - 04:32 PM

Really? Half of them was complaining about the default settings, the other half was complaining about "sending information to Microsoft". How is any of that a legitimate concern? What, you can't be bothered to spend ten minutes changing the settings when you install a new OS?

 

Information is evil, it's all controlled by the illuminati. 



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Posted 30 July 2015 - 04:51 PM

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soon (hopefully) ill finally get the release build of windows 10 



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Posted 30 July 2015 - 04:59 PM

If anyone wants to reclaim 3G of space, you can delete the old copy of Windows that it keeps as a backup in c:\windows.old. It is a bit hard to delete, but this worked:
https://support.micr...en-us/kb/930527

Speed, you try from the ISO?

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 05:02 PM

Hooviano showed me a much better method of updating without waiting for the notification.

http://windows.micro...on-tool-install

Run that program and you can either upgrade your PC or create bootable media.



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Posted 30 July 2015 - 05:06 PM

Speed, you try from the ISO?

 

i was going to wait until Microsoft to push me the update until i did it manually. since i didn't want to be stuck without an important driver like for my Ethernet adapter or something

 

Hooviano showed me a much better method of updating without waiting for the notification.

http://windows.micro...on-tool-install

Run that program and you can either upgrade your PC or create bootable media.

 

I guess i can do that now


Edited by speedrunnerG55, 30 July 2015 - 05:09 PM.
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Posted 30 July 2015 - 05:07 PM

My mane rig is running 8.1 I'll be using my Surface Pro as my testing platform for the release build (should've done that for the dev previews, but oh well.)


Edited by Luna Lens, 30 July 2015 - 05:12 PM.


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 05:41 PM

Just a PSA: For those of you having license key errors when upgrading eligibly, there's an annoying way to fix that. If you're affected, say so.

 

I've had the issue and I had to jump through a hoop to get it to work.


Edited by Harakhti, 30 July 2015 - 05:42 PM.


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 05:44 PM

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wow this took me a long time to decide. i decided to keep nothing. all my programs and files are on my s drive so there safe, and i keep a backup of my registry and important files .eg office and antivirus product keys, minecraft, and mumble certificate. so i think a clean install would actually be best option for me. 


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 05:59 PM

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Despicable as 4chan usually is, this is a pretty good summary of why you shouldn't get Win10

 

 

That is a shitload of whining over stuff that you can easily turn off or are inconsequential.

 

 

This is a short post dismissing legitimate concerns that are contradicted by the very post that is being dismissed.

EDIT- Fuck me I'm tired. Lemme rephrase-

This is a short post dismissing legitimate concerns despite said dismissal being contradicted by the very post being dismissed.

 

 

"Legitimate concerns" my fucking ass, that's a list compiled by paranoid conspiracy theorists if I've ever seen one.

 

Want me to make it longer then?

 

1. You can disable the P2P updating, not to mention the fact that accusations of Windows Update being used to spread malware are completely unfounded.

 

2. Yes, you can disable telemetry, and I have already done so.

 

3. Whining about not being able to disable Defender is incredibly stupid. Defender is harmless. It doesn't even interfere with my real anti-virus. Whining about sending information to Microsoft is paranoid stupidity from teenagers that don't even have information worth stealing.

 

4. Cortana requires a Microsoft Account - uh, big deal? So, don't use the fancy new feature unless you don't want to? The local search function is still there, the only things that require the online connection are the online aspects of the program. What, is Cortana supposed to display you recent news and updates without connecting to the internet?

 

5. Content suggestions are removed in the normal process of customizing your start menu.

 

6. Wifi sense is easily disabled.

 

 

Really? Half of them was complaining about the default settings, the other half was complaining about "sending information to Microsoft". How is any of that a legitimate concern? What, you can't be bothered to spend ten minutes changing the settings when you install a new OS? The only one that comes close to being legitimate is Telemetry, which can't be turned off as a standard setting. 

 

 

Here. Solve all your problems.

https://www.reddit.c..._in_windows_10/


Edited by Luna Lens, 30 July 2015 - 06:03 PM.


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 06:04 PM

I'm sure most or all complaints people have can be overcome with enough willpower and motivation. It's a preference, yet some people like to argue it for some reason. If someone actually wants any of the new things in Windows 10, of course it makes sense to upgrade then spend the time to figure out how to tune it. But right now it just looks like some effort is required to end up where I started but with less disk space. No thanks. I'm sure eventually games will require Windows 10 and I'll be forced to upgrade, so I'll just wait for that.
That link is certainly handy for anyone using Windows 10, I don't mean to bash that. I'll keep it bookmarked for if I have to install it for customers.

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 07:48 PM

I doubt Mount & Blade will work on windows 10 so I won't be updating for a long while

I actually will be updating.  I found this list of games that work with Windows 10, if anyone wants it.



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Posted 30 July 2015 - 08:33 PM

I can't seem to even install Win10, since oddly windows 7 legit copy mind you, on the old laptop stopped its update service, askes to be restarted which id o but it does work. hmph

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 09:33 PM

Anyone on laptops having an issue where you can't adjust screen brightness at all? Like, I can see the slider and can move it around and nothing changes. Not even f.lux does anything

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 09:35 PM

I'll have to use my laptop as a test station for it. Now to just backup everything I have on it...



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Posted 30 July 2015 - 09:38 PM

Anyone on laptops having an issue where you can't adjust screen brightness at all? Like, I can see the slider and can move it around and nothing changes. Not even f.lux does anything

 

Sounds like a graphics driver issue. I had a similar problem on my Surface Pro when I first got it (brightness would change erratically despite what I set it to, regardless of whether auto brightness was on or off) and I had to update the drivers to solve it.



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Posted 30 July 2015 - 09:47 PM

Sounds like a graphics driver issue. I had a similar problem on my Surface Pro when I first got it (brightness would change erratically despite what I set it to, regardless of whether auto brightness was on or off) and I had to update the drivers to solve it.


That would explain it since Mincraft had a driver issue as well, I'm downloading the latest drivers now, I'll post back with what happens.

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 09:55 PM

What GPU do you have? My issue was the Intel HD graphics 4000 on a core i5 3317u.



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Posted 30 July 2015 - 10:41 PM

Anyone on laptops having an issue where you can't adjust screen brightness at all? Like, I can see the slider and can move it around and nothing changes. Not even f.lux does anything

Nope.

 

Also, I booted up League of Legends for the first time since updating, and was surprised to find my average FPS had gone up by about 50%, with peak FPS being double what my previous peak FPS used to be.



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Posted 30 July 2015 - 10:45 PM

Anyone on laptops having an issue where you can't adjust screen brightness at all? Like, I can see the slider and can move it around and nothing changes. Not even f.lux does anything

You have to manually update your graphics drivers.


Nope.

 

Also, I booted up League of Legends for the first time since updating, and was surprised to find my average FPS had gone up by about 50%, with peak FPS being double what my previous peak FPS used to be.

The latest drivers are actually really amazing, the audio drivers for windows 10 are actually a lot clearer than they were for windows 8.1



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Posted 30 July 2015 - 10:48 PM

You have to manually update your graphics drivers.


The latest drivers are actually really amazing, the audio drivers for windows 10 are actually a lot clearer than they were for windows 8.1

I don't know about clearer, but they're certainly a lot louder that what they used to be, I had to turn down my volume on my speakers considerably.

 

Also, shame the driver improvements don't apply to Minecraft.



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Posted 30 July 2015 - 10:50 PM

Yup, updating card worked. Thanks Luna.

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 10:57 PM

I don't know about clearer, but they're certainly a lot louder that what they used to be, I had to turn down my volume on my speakers considerably.

Also, shame the driver improvements don't apply to Minecraft.


Minecraft can't be helped. Apparently Mojang thinks it's a good idea to use just one thread for some stupid reason.

I noticed Windows 10 is using almost 50% less RAM. That's very nice.

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 11:19 PM

Nope.
 
Also, I booted up League of Legends for the first time since updating, and was surprised to find my average FPS had gone up by about 50%, with peak FPS being double what my previous peak FPS used to be.


that could be cause your virutally running a clean install of windows too

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Posted 31 July 2015 - 12:28 AM

that could be cause your virutally running a clean install of windows too

I didn't do a clean install, I kept everything.



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Posted 31 July 2015 - 12:44 AM

I actually will be updating.  I found this list of games that work with Windows 10, if anyone wants it.

RCT3 doesn't work?? rrr



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Posted 31 July 2015 - 01:18 AM

RCT3 doesn't work?? rrr

You realize that thread is for the beta version of the OS from October 2014?



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Posted 31 July 2015 - 01:38 AM

You realize that thread is for the beta version of the OS from October 2014?

I'm here to shitpost, not read!



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Posted 31 July 2015 - 02:18 AM

the audio drivers for windows 10 are actually a lot clearer than they were for windows 8.1

Sounds like garbage to me, but that's probably the work of my 1Ghz A4 processor.


Edited by JoyJoy, 31 July 2015 - 02:18 AM.


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Posted 31 July 2015 - 02:23 AM

Funny. I can't get the update tool to work on my rig, but it worked flawlessly on my Surface. I went back and tried the workaround method. It says it's "downloading." I know Windows Update can be temprermental so I'll leave it running for a while.

 

http://venturebeat.c...0-update-files/



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Posted 31 July 2015 - 03:55 AM

Browsers can't just set themselves as the default browser anymore?

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Posted 31 July 2015 - 04:15 AM

Browsers can't just set themselves as the default browser anymore?

They can, I guess that method is just more reliable in case Chrome's detection doesn't work?



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Posted 31 July 2015 - 04:20 AM

"They can" without checking if it's true or not.

http://www.theverge....-apps-complaint

When I installed Windows 10 in a VM, then installed Chrome, it automatically opened the settings for default apps and had a little window saying to change it to chrome. It seemed really odd to me that it couldn't do it by itself, so this is the best Google can do to cope.

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Posted 31 July 2015 - 05:58 AM

"They can" without checking if it's true or not.

 

I booted up Windows 10 for the first time, opened Chrome, and it said "Chrome is not your default browser, would you like to set it to your default browser?" Just like every other computer I've installed Chrome on. Maybe it works differently mechanically, but functionally the only difference was that I pressed a different button to set it to Chrome rather than pressing a button that said "Yes". There was maybe at most one extra click involved, so I assumed it was the typical thing happening, and I didn't notice that it had taken me to a Windows setting page rather than a Chrome dialog. My bad.



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Posted 31 July 2015 - 06:50 PM

FINALLY DOWNLOADING IT!!!!! (Im using my phone to post this)

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Posted 31 July 2015 - 07:00 PM

I've messed EVERYTHING up. I have to reinstall 8.1 before even trying to upgrade again.

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Posted 31 July 2015 - 07:11 PM

The ISO should let you just fresh install Windows 10.

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Posted 31 July 2015 - 07:18 PM

Trouble with that is I have a key for 8, so I have to do the upgrade in order to get my key re-registered.

Edit: YES, Windows Media Creator tool didn't get stuck checking for updates this time.
The reinstall worked. I hope nobody else had this problem. I ran the update diagnostic tool, dism, cfs scannow and it still kept giving me errors.

Edited by Luna Lens, 31 July 2015 - 07:22 PM.


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Posted 31 July 2015 - 07:53 PM

Few small things I've noticed:

 

Cortana takes a long time to start up when I use it for the first time after booting, I removed all the notifications stuff (I only really need the search function anyways) and it doesn't hang for 10-20 seconds anymore. The search function by itself is actually a huge improvement over Win 7-8 searching.

 

There are some settings under Privacy everyone should probably take a look at it. It seems as though Windows 10 by default shares advertising data, so any apps where you have ads will have custom-tailored ads for you, like Google, but you can turn this off. Although I think it only affects Windows Store apps, so it's probably more of a thing for tablet users.



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Posted 31 July 2015 - 08:29 PM

What I noticed was that I failed to validate my activation after a legitimate upgrade and had to go through a ton of hoops to fix it. It's a known issue.


Edited by Harakhti, 31 July 2015 - 08:29 PM.


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Posted 31 July 2015 - 08:44 PM

after hands on with windows 10, ive decided to not bother with it, just seems even more dumbed down then 8 was for users who already know where things are, so again that transitional cluster fuck is back, its also very steril looking i noticed the default theme makes me feel like im staring at a hospital workstation pc. maybe once a service pack is out for it, it might be more usable, but for now im just considering it a public beta

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Posted 31 July 2015 - 08:48 PM

after hands on with windows 10, ive decided to not bother with it, just seems even more dumbed down then 8 was for users who already know where things are, so again that transitional cluster fuck is back, its also very steril looking i noticed the default theme makes me feel like im staring at a hospital workstation pc. maybe once a service pack is out for it, it might be more usable, but for now im just considering it a public beta

 

The other IT consultants I know were enraged by its "terrible quality". I just don't care enough to revert. Microsoft's business model hardly relies on outside preferences since they dominate the markets (not because they are good, but remember this: .exe) so it's not likely that they'll work backwards. You could almost label them as a "closed source insecure abandonware production company".


Edited by Harakhti, 31 July 2015 - 08:49 PM.


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Posted 31 July 2015 - 08:53 PM

well no one to oppose you so you have a monopoly on the market, sure mac and linux exist but PC has kind have been the main thing for decades

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Posted 31 July 2015 - 10:27 PM

The link I posted to remove all the unnecessary stuff has some REG files that you can use to modify some stuff. One of the first things I did was remove the lock screen. It has no place on a desktop. All I want is to enter my password, but look at some stupid picture.

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Posted 01 August 2015 - 12:40 AM

If the white window borders are annoying you--and they are annoying you if you game at all--then use this http://www.tenforums...ndows-10-a.html



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Posted 01 August 2015 - 12:58 AM

well no one to oppose you so you have a monopoly on the market, sure mac and linux exist but PC has kind have been the main thing for decades


I only use Windows because I play PC games, and I'm too lazy to dual boot. I am hopeful that SteamOS will help change that, but I'm not betting on it. Regarding this free upgrade to Windows 10, there's an old quote that keeps coming to mind, "If You're Not Paying For It, You Become The Product". So I am curious to see how this unfolds in the years to come with the Windows Store, and see if it becomes like Apple. As long as you can still install any app you want on your PC, they haven't crossed the line.

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Posted 01 August 2015 - 02:10 AM

Get rid of Onedrive

 

http://www62.zippysh...GZv7J/file.html

 

UPDATE: This causes an empty space to appear on the taskbar where a tray icon should be. I solved the problem only by reinstalling Windows 10, so if you're picky about these things then don't use it.


Edited by Luna Lens, 01 August 2015 - 08:27 PM.


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Posted 02 August 2015 - 03:30 AM

I don't agree with all of this, but it made me chuckle:

https://i.imgur.com/9DoVoix.jpg

All that's missing is some Illuminati symbols.

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Posted 02 August 2015 - 08:57 AM

I don't agree with all of this, but it made me chuckle:

https://i.imgur.com/9DoVoix.jpg

All that's missing is some Illuminati symbols.

The amount of effort that went into that is almost scarier then the fact my info is being shared with a giant corporation. Oh well. Guess they can see all my awsomeness.



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Posted 02 August 2015 - 01:24 PM

so, is onedrive microsofts answer to google drive?

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Posted 02 August 2015 - 02:04 PM

so, is onedrive microsofts answer to google drive?

 

If you don't count the fact it's inferior to Google Drive, I suppose yes.



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Posted 02 August 2015 - 04:56 PM

At one time in history, Microsoft was accused of being a monopoly and abusing their position, found guilty, but nothing happened. I guess now they figure they can do whatever they want, so they'll push their browser that nobody wants by making it so other browsers can't set defaults, or having a dropbox clone that you can't install, and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

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Posted 02 August 2015 - 05:25 PM

At one time in history, Microsoft was accused of being a monopoly and abusing their position, found guilty, but nothing happened. I guess now they figure they can do whatever they want, so they'll push their browser that nobody wants by making it so other browsers can't set defaults, or having a dropbox clone that you can't install, and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

 

Hey, it's pretty much true. I wonder how quickly developers will steer to *NIX or AAPL stuff instead.



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Posted 02 August 2015 - 05:34 PM

If you don't count the fact it's inferior to Google Drive, I suppose yes.

I checked it and apparently I have unlimited Google Drive storage via my university email. Didn't even realize that, that should come in real handy, I'm going to back up all my shit on there right now.

 

And apparently OneDrive has a hard-coded limit of 20,000 files, so it's not even that good for backup even though it has unlimited storage for Office users.



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Posted 02 August 2015 - 06:03 PM

Google also occassionally gives free permanent storage as a promo to users who test features. I got 2GB extra for testing two-step verification in the Mesozoic era, and that 2GB alone covers down all of my essential files.


Edited by Harakhti, 02 August 2015 - 06:03 PM.


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Posted 04 August 2015 - 01:09 AM

If you want to disable the tracking features, but are feeling wary of messing with registry keys and system files, then this handy tool will solve your problems!

 

https://github.com/1...acking/releases


Edited by Luna Lens, 04 August 2015 - 01:19 AM.


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Posted 05 August 2015 - 08:18 AM

http://www.microsoft...reement/?s=ecym

 

1. Your Privacy. Your privacy is important to us.

 

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Posted 09 August 2015 - 08:37 PM

Here's how to disable Windows Defender

http://www.tenforums...ndows-10-a.html

 

 

 

 

After using Windows 10 for a while, I've come to a conclusion. Windows 10 is a great operating system that has been ruined by marketing. The fast startup, the aesthetics, the features, even the the default desktop backgrounds show that the developers really cared about Windows. It really is a great OS, but then all the tracking software and keyloggers and ad services were slapped on to turn a profit. I would be furious if I had paid full price for Windows 10, but I got a free upgrade, and I disabled most of the crap. Regardless, I will never, ever pay full price for Windows 10. I will not give Microsoft money as long as I am the product.

 

To conclude, I would say to upgrade to Windows 10 only if:

 

A.) You plan on spending time to remove spyware and disable tracking services.

B.) You are a gamer.

C.) You don't have to pay full price.



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Posted 09 August 2015 - 10:04 PM

I bout my copy of 7 pro for $33, I have a spare copy of 8.1 pro laying around that I bought for $35- not sure if I'll upgrade. I don't use windows much anyway


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