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#1 Ratty

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 07:45 PM

In case there's stuff to talk about.
http://www.brohoof.c...of-needs-money/

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 07:52 PM

I'm a bit short on money my self, but if I can get my hands on some sort of income I'll be sure to donate :) I don't get on too often, but I still want to keep this place alive :D



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Posted 12 October 2013 - 07:58 PM

I've literally just started training at Subway, so will donate when I get the job, which I am assured I do have.

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 08:11 PM

I'll have a route round under the sofa, anything I find is yours.



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Posted 12 October 2013 - 08:13 PM

I'll donate another £40 next week, I hope we can pay the rent.



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Posted 12 October 2013 - 08:13 PM

I'll look over my private budget for any gaps that I can send your way, but on highly limited income so I cant do much :/



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Posted 12 October 2013 - 08:20 PM

Sure I'll help out, once I get money next month.



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Posted 12 October 2013 - 08:47 PM

I'll see what I can do, no promises.



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Posted 12 October 2013 - 09:45 PM

if only i could donate...



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Posted 12 October 2013 - 10:21 PM

This leads me to my next case of action,
I will either persuade my parents to let me donate my saved money,
Or you wait till next year for me to get a job

#11 Captain Char

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Posted 13 October 2013 - 04:31 AM

I will try to donate frequently, I think the Celestia skin has worn off on me, "I will do what I can to protect the citizens of my kingdom" :P



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 02:01 PM

Is there a reason why we don't use a crowdfunding website like the last time?



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 04:58 PM

Does this mean the Brony Mod Pack wont update if you don't get enough money to pay "rent"?



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 05:01 PM

wait, what are the in-game perks?



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 05:09 PM

BronyModPack is

Does this mean the Brony Mod Pack wont update if you don't get enough money to pay "rent"?


That is completely unrelated, and made by different people.

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Posted 13 October 2013 - 06:35 PM

wait, what are the in-game perks?

If you donate £20($31.92) or more, you get access to the /hat command.

If you donate £40($63.84) or more, you get a ♥ prefix before your name in-game.

 

All donators, regardless of amount, have their name added to a sign in the town hall.



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 06:36 PM

Donating again as soon as I can.



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 06:55 PM

Drawing money and throwing it on my display doesn't really seem to work. Oh well.



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 06:57 PM

The way I look at it, if people need rewards or a crowdfunding thing to donate, then its not worth running the server. We had a good run, I'm happy with how its turned out. We were under attack, and the community stood up for us and gave us enough money to stay up for a year.
But other people have to want us to be up for us to be up. If nobody wants to just donate to keep the server up, then I'll just move onto the next thing. If the money completely runs out, we'll just say goodbye and cancel the service.

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Posted 13 October 2013 - 07:11 PM

If the minecraft server were to shut down...  Would the forums still be up?  I really hope they would



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 07:43 PM

The way I look at it, if people need rewards or a crowdfunding thing to donate, then its not worth running the server. We had a good run, I'm happy with how its turned out. We were under attack, and the community stood up for us and gave us enough money to stay up for a year.
But other people have to want us to be up for us to be up. If nobody wants to just donate to keep the server up, then I'll just move onto the next thing. If the money completely runs out, we'll just say goodbye and cancel the service.

 

I am sorry if that were to happen, we definitely cannot go back to the old server location because well, DDoS pricks are looking at brohoof right now, they know whats going to happen. 

 

however, I will do everything I can, because I love this community and its members.



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 08:35 PM

Do anything you want  just don't touch mumble!!!



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 08:43 PM

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Posted 13 October 2013 - 09:01 PM

Do anything you want just leave the misc section alone

 

please



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 09:08 PM

You people need to take this more seriously. I may rarely get on the actual server (I don't really play a lot of Minecraft anymore), but I still wish the best for this community.



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 11:07 PM

Which is exactly why I'm gonna donate again.



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Posted 14 October 2013 - 12:13 AM

It would be a shame if the server and community goes down, but I can also understand the money situation, I do hope we can manage to keep the community alive and well



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Posted 14 October 2013 - 01:24 AM

I think if we got few or no donations (still no new donations so far!), we could move the forums to a cheaper host and try to keep those up. We're still a few months away from having to think about that though.
But wouldn't it just be easier if people just donated?

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 01:33 AM

Oh, I wish I could, but I have no money of my own.  Maybe if there is a huge need for it in the future, I could tell my parents how much the community and this server means to me, then I'd be able to donate, probably.



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Posted 14 October 2013 - 01:52 AM

Just throwing my perspective out there, it would seem that most people are unable to donate now. I think that once November and December starts rolling around, the server activity will increase, and hopefully, bring in more donations. Season 4 might bring in new people, and bring in more possible donators. Although some people are strapped for cash during the holidays, others (namely teens and young adults) would get cash from family/friends/their dogs/etc. and would be willing to donate that money then.



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Posted 14 October 2013 - 02:08 AM

There's still time, and its not like if we have to shut down for a short time that means we can't just restart again later.

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 02:24 AM

A lot of people would panic, truthfully. Not naming the types of people.

 

 

Oh, I wish I could, but I have no money of my own.  Maybe if there is a huge need for it in the future, I could tell my parents how much the community and this server means to me, then I'd be able to donate, probably.

same here, except...

they have a record of every dollar, every cent i spend. They would not donate a hundred or so just because i said so.

I am planning, once i am able to start working, to get my own paypal, then be able to donate generously, and be responsible and learn early about taking care of my own earnt money.

I don't want to use my family's, even if i got the money from relatives. They keep it and monitor it's uses, and i'm stuffed until i get my own accounts.

 

Other than that, the fact is that i can only pay IRL, seeing as it will be VERY easy now to get a new MC account, by buying a gift card in the supermarket.

Nifty, eh? Only $25.



#33 RunningWolf251

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 03:24 AM

Between college debt and horse expenses, there's little left for me to do what I want with. While I would love to donate very much, my situation currently and in the future makes it difficult for me to take away from paying off debt and paying for college to donate to Brohoof. I might be able to find one of those pay-pal cards somewhere, though I don't have an account with pay-pal.

 

There's still time, and its not like if we have to shut down for a short time that means we can't just restart again later.

You could always have a bake-sale or hoof-wash cars in bikinis for Brohoof funds? Besides, it's only been a day or two since posting the need for donations, I imagine it'll take some people a bit of time to scratch up some free funding. I'll look around for some of those cards, but it probably won't be until I get off Fall break and get back to a city with fancy stores that sell stuff like that.



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Posted 14 October 2013 - 04:51 AM

I'm on a limited income, but I'm about to get a bonus pretty soon, I really don't want to see this community go, first thing I'm going to do is donate to the server.



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Posted 14 October 2013 - 07:34 AM

I'd count myself with the people that really do not want this community to fall appart, particularly because of how much many of  you mean to me, so I'll do what I can in terms of donations, but with an "income" of only 155$ a month, and I can only spend about 1/10th of that on the server no problem (got stuff IRL I need to support :I), I got my hands tied :/


Edited by Lazaruz95, 14 October 2013 - 07:35 AM.


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Posted 14 October 2013 - 09:05 AM

(still no new donations so far)


had to transfer monies from under the sofa to paypal, hopefully will donate today or tomorrow, this would be a lot easier if we could setup a direct debit.

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 10:27 AM

Right, sent what little I can as a donation. Fingers crossed this can stay afloat



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Posted 14 October 2013 - 12:45 PM

Is there a reason why we don't use a crowdfunding website like the last time?

quite sure it's not used because that was a fund raiser. since theres no actual need of fund raising and no goal anymore, people can freely donate whenever they feel like.



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Posted 14 October 2013 - 07:08 PM

I really wish I had money to donate...



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Posted 14 October 2013 - 08:54 PM

ignore this post was having some paypal issues had to update my bank details, gonna have to get the account verified then i can send monies, hopefully i can donate by the end of the week.


Edited by Limey, 14 October 2013 - 09:25 PM.


#41 Defective

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 09:23 PM

Hhnng, this is why freelance just ain't cuttin' it! I wish I had more money to give...

I'm starting now to save up for a proper donation. I wanna try to outdo my giving from last time!

 

Brohoof is like family to me, and I can't stand the very idea of it going under. /);A; /) I will do all that I can to help out!

This community has made me feel so welcome from the first day I joined as a greymane, all the way until this very day, and that means more to me than any of y'all can ever know. I want to do my best to give back to this great community and keep it thriving... I hope y'all catch the fire of my feels, because Brohoof is worth it, yo! ;w;



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Posted 14 October 2013 - 10:53 PM

I'm pretty sure some people just didn't notice this topic because of the ongoing frontpage shutdown.

If this was a permanent forum topic with frequent updates on the situation, It might be easier for people to keep track.

One could even add a scale from 1 to 10 about how serious it gets, so people know when they're needed.

The easier and the more transparent donating is, the more people will participate.

 

Just a few ideas...



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Posted 14 October 2013 - 11:59 PM

There's something that i don't like about, in essence, begging for money. :/ It seems a tad... pretentious? Having a title that states "We need money!" is not a great way to appeal to donators imo. I see places all the time with the same tact and it makes me not want to donate at all. i might go about it more openly and ask, rather than tell.

 

Moving on, questions i would pose before thinking of donating:

 

What is the real risk of a DDos attack now that things have calmed down since the incident with the "Undesirable"? Do we really need to keep paying this bill at his point or is this absolutely essential to the operation of the server that we have this protection constantly?

 

I would suggest reiterating and detailing what our money is exactly going towards for donator confidence's sake. It's not really well outlined in the announcement.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 12:19 AM

What is the real risk of a DDos attack now that things have calmed down since the incident with the "Undesirable"? Do we really need to keep paying this bill at his point or is this absolutely essential to the operation of the server that we have this protection constantly?

Legitimate question here (as I've not worked much with hosting and I'm somewhat curious): If the server were to downgrade once and test to see if we're still under fire from DDoS, would it be a huge hassle to re-up the system again soon afterwards? If it wasn't a mess to change the hosting, though I'm assuming it is very muchly so, would it be better to simply switch over to DDoS-protection when DDoS occurs instead of having high-maintenance systems running all the time?



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 01:02 AM

Legitimate question here (as I've not worked much with hosting and I'm somewhat curious): If the server were to downgrade once and test to see if we're still under fire from DDoS, would it be a huge hassle to re-up the system again soon afterwards? If it wasn't a mess to change the hosting, though I'm assuming it is very muchly so, would it be better to simply switch over to DDoS-protection when DDoS occurs instead of having high-maintenance systems running all the time?

 

I am also not familiar with this. That's a good question and point.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 01:13 AM

1. I have no shame in e-begging for something that is basically for other people. I'm not asking strangers for money, I'm asking the regulars that think its worth keeping open. What I find pretentious is servers that just shove that in your face, and have signs in the spawn room going over an elaborate system of rewards. I'd rather just leave donations as an optional thing off to the side, and when we run low, annoy people with messages letting them know how long we have.

 

2. We are attacked several times a week, so we absolutely need protection. There is no question about that, I can see the spikes on the bandwidth graphs, if we didn't have protection we would have frequent outages. I'm not really that comfortable in talking about that stuff in public, do please don't ask for more details.

 

3. I'll take down the government shutdown thing, I think the joke has run its course and yeah it is hiding the notice. The front page gets little traffic though. I'll add back that little global message at the top of the forum, that is hard to miss.

 

We are going to try hosting somewhere else that is ddos protected to save money, but I don't want to count on that working out. If we are able to reduce costs, we're still always going to need money. The only difference is how long we'll be able to coast without raising alarms.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 02:02 AM

The popularity of the server is pretty low right now- what used to be the peak amount of players (usually about 30-40 players) is now really low. Today there were 6 people on at what was the peak time. I really don't think the community is here right now, maybe the release of season 4 would change that?

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 03:21 AM

The popularity of the server is pretty low right now- what used to be the peak amount of players (usually about 30-40 players) is now really low. Today there were 6 people on at what was the peak time. I really don't think the community is here right now, maybe the release of season 4 would change that?

 

It's either the Minecraft update that has done that or it's really just Minecraft and MLP dying out, which I really wouldn't be surprised of, Minecraft is getting boring and MLP is just loosing it's attention and fandom. Both will have the same end result.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 03:54 AM

I wouldn't exactly say that MLP is loosing its fandom that fast. There's just as much drama as always.
I'd rather blame the update (which is why I haven't been on lately)



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 03:57 AM

It's kinda stupid that someone's still paying to try and attack us when we're not visibly feeling the effects of it, but details are not important to me concerning this. As long as they don't get their kicks and succeed, I'm cool with it.

 

It's either the Minecraft update that has done that or it's really just Minecraft and MLP dying out, which I really wouldn't be surprised of, Minecraft is getting boring and MLP is just loosing it's attention and fandom. Both will have the same end result.

To be honest, I don't update minecraft for two or three weeks after the server updates. It seems pointless to have to update mods as well to catch up to a bugfix update when 1.7 is coming soon.

 

I really don't think the community is here right now

Getting closer to holiday season. There's always people busy with college or school in general and it both dips and rises with the months. Does this near the beginning of summer too as far as I've seen.

 

It's either the Minecraft update that has done that or it's really just Minecraft and MLP dying out, which I really wouldn't be surprised of, Minecraft is getting boring and MLP is just loosing it's attention and fandom. Both will have the same end result.

Neither are particularly 'dying,' we're just secluded enough from the rest of the fandom to not notice what else is happening. There's still stuff going on, it's just not happening here. Minecraft is just one of those games you can only play for so long before you really need to take a break from it. It's a limited sandbox, in a sense.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 04:15 AM

^ I couldn't have said it better.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 04:39 AM

The popularity of the server is pretty low right now- what used to be the peak amount of players (usually about 30-40 players) is now really low. Today there were 6 people on at what was the peak time. I really don't think the community is here right now, maybe the release of season 4 would change that?

By the time the next season starts (just over a month left guys!) Im sure the community will have built back up again.

Also, to serve as an example, Ill be donating upon my next payday. :)



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 05:02 AM

I wouldn't exactly say that MLP is loosing its fandom that fast. There's just as much drama as always.
I'd rather blame the update (which is why I haven't been on lately)

Clearly it's neither. The community is still there but not ours.

I think a lot of the regulars are high schoolers or college though, so maybe school is the cause.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 05:27 AM

Clearly it's neither. The community is still there but not ours.

I think a lot of the regulars are high schoolers or college though, so maybe school is the cause.

I can agree with this as I (and most of my friends who play games) are busy with school work and other irl stuff so it wouldn't be a stretch to say others are dealing with this



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 05:41 AM

Clearly it's neither. The community is still there but not ours.

I think a lot of the regulars are high schoolers or college though, so maybe school is the cause.

We had fairly high attendance during the summer, which supports this.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 06:16 AM

All MLP pony servers are seeing the same reduction in player count, so I'm not worried that its anything to do with us.

Most of us admins are waiting to see if things pick up after new episodes.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 11:06 AM

I haven't been on much in the past one or two weeks because of issues with my Minecraft.

I FINALLY got everything working yesterday, so I'll be on whenever I can!



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 05:12 PM

If we do end up closing down will we keep the forums/donations up until the amount is reached?



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 07:00 PM

If we do end up closing down will we keep the forums/donations up until the amount is reached?

It's not like if we don't get money in by the deadline, the whole place is just getting uprooted and thrown in the dumpster. The only thing really in question right now is the minecraft hosting. If the money isn't in by deadline, all that's going to happen to begin with is the server going down until money is made to host it. Forums will stay up for a few months as I took it and if no money is given to the server fund, it's likely the forums will have less purpose and probably be done away with. But even saying it now is likely to make people uneasy, so don't take it as "The Last Days of Brohoof."

 

Tl;dr Only the server is at risk currently.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 08:18 PM

It's not like if we don't get money in by the deadline, the whole place is just getting uprooted and thrown in the dumpster. The only thing really in question right now is the minecraft hosting. If the money isn't in by deadline, all that's going to happen to begin with is the server going down until money is made to host it. Forums will stay up for a few months as I took it and if no money is given to the server fund, it's likely the forums will have less purpose and probably be done away with. But even saying it now is likely to make people uneasy, so don't take it as "The Last Days of Brohoof."

 

Tl;dr Only the server is at risk currently.

as long as the forums and the mumble stays up, i'm happy



#61 Skelxon

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 11:27 PM

I have a suggestion to everyone:  Stop thinking about this so pessimistically.  The whole point of this server and its people is to bring joy!  And joy is what it brings me; time and time again.  If we start thinking like this is the end of Brohoof, then it WILL be the end.  We need to stay positive, and think about what we can do to fix it, because right now, most of you are only thinking about what you're going to do when this all goes away.  That's not how you all should be approaching this.  If you truly love this community, and the people in it, like I know I do, then you'll try your best to keep it there, rather than find alternatives or moan about it.

 

I believe I have made my point.  Donating now.


Edited by Spooxon, 15 October 2013 - 11:31 PM.


#62 Watisdatdennhier

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 11:45 PM

The whole point of this server and its people is to bring joy!

 

Unfortunately there are other people on the server who spread this form of hopelessness which really isn't helping anyone.

We should rather spread as much optimism in the community as we can, remind people why this server's here to stay.
Self-fulfilling prophecy much.


Edited by Watisdatdennhier, 15 October 2013 - 11:47 PM.


#63 The Clef

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 11:51 PM

I hope this place stays around for years to come. This place is where I go to be happy and be welcomed, and I want other people to feel the same happiness and joy that I feel when I log onto the server.

I want other people to feel welcomed like I was when I first joined.

Plain and simple: Long live Brohoof!



#64 Night_Breeze

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 12:49 AM

I'm almost never on the actual server either, but you guys are great.  Minecraft is a bit boring to me anymore, I'm interest in where spout and minetest will go though



#65 Evil Dasher

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 02:34 AM

I can't donate! Rarity just got kidnapped by the Diamond Dogs with earplugs now! Brohoof is dying!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO



#66 Captain Char

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 06:37 AM

I for one, believe this to be a strong community, even though I am relatively new I can see there is a bond here, and yes I noticed the activity is slow, but as with all shows that have that downtime till the next season, it usually brings back people, I for one don't wish to see this community disappear in any form, but I also understand how there is "what you want to do, and what you can do"

 

Edit: Im also looking at the costs for Hosting in my area, but Id need to sit down with Ratty or "Celestia" per say, and have a small chat on details that wont be mentioned


Edited by Captain Char, 16 October 2013 - 06:44 AM.


#67 Seabreeze

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 06:49 AM

Clearly it's neither. The community is still there but not ours.

I think a lot of the regulars are high schoolers or college though, so maybe school is the cause.

 

No, brony activity is down in general, traffic to Fimfic, EQD, and other brony sites has dropped significantly (30-50%) since the end of Season 3. It's not too surprising, given that there's never been this long a hiatus in new episodes before. Blame the half-length Season 3 three that.



#68 Distortion_

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 08:02 AM

If I were to donate again, and the deadline was not met. Would my money be refunded or kept untill it could be payed again? This I am asking because it's already near impossible to scrape by with the little money I earn and get from the government. Bills sure are fun. this is also the reason I should put emphasis on the "if"



#69 Ratty

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 09:35 AM

If it came to that, we would just use up whatever money we had left on the last month, I'd probably just pitch in to round it off if there's not enough money. There's no refunds.
I'm not really going to keep answering all these complicated questions, either donate or don't. Stop trying to figure out what do if X and Y, just donate if you can, or don't if you can't, we'll make the best possible use of the money.

#70 Captain Char

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 02:50 PM

understood



#71 Limey the Kind

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 08:44 AM

finally managed to trick paypal into letting me gift the money without any charges, had to remove my credit and debit card off my paypal account and transfer funds via my online bank then it would let me use my paypal wallet... I think paypal was just trying to prey on my laziness in hopes I would just pay the charge for using my debit card... for shame paypal.

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#72 xjiffy

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 04:32 PM

BronyModPack is
That is completely unrelated, and made by different people.

Ok thanks



#73 Golfmann

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 02:23 AM

1. I have no shame in e-begging for something that is basically for other people. I'm not asking strangers for money, I'm asking the regulars that think its worth keeping open. What I find pretentious is servers that just shove that in your face, and have signs in the spawn room going over an elaborate system of rewards. I'd rather just leave donations as an optional thing off to the side, and when we run low, annoy people with messages letting them know how long we have.

 

2. We are attacked several times a week, so we absolutely need protection. There is no question about that, I can see the spikes on the bandwidth graphs, if we didn't have protection we would have frequent outages. I'm not really that comfortable in talking about that stuff in public, do please don't ask for more details.

 

3. I'll take down the government shutdown thing, I think the joke has run its course and yeah it is hiding the notice. The front page gets little traffic though. I'll add back that little global message at the top of the forum, that is hard to miss.

 

We are going to try hosting somewhere else that is ddos protected to save money, but I don't want to count on that working out. If we are able to reduce costs, we're still always going to need money. The only difference is how long we'll be able to coast without raising alarms.

 

I haven't checked back in a while so sorry about the delay. But thank you for the explanation Ratty. I would also agree with the point you made in #1.



#74 Ratty

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 02:45 AM

We've gotten at least a month worth of hosting fees from the donations so far, good work!

#75 Verdana

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 06:37 PM

Thank you very much to everyone has helped us out with this so far, we really appreciate it. :pinkiesmile:

 

One person forgot to give us their Minecraft name, if that was you please post in Private Issues to let us know who you are.



#76 EarStomp

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 02:20 AM

wish i could donate, seriously, but i have no job and no money. rendering me useless in this situation.

EDIT

i feel the neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed fo a job! fo mahself and fo mah fav server!

:3

i will support you in however i can but i cannot support you with donations. unless i ever get a job.

job = money = paypal = DONATIONSSSS!

^don'thave^don'thave^don'thave^wishicould.


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#77 Starlight Aurora

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 02:21 AM

I wish I could donate, but I don't think my parents can allow it.



#78 Starlight Aurora

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 02:14 AM

Ok that's it after my trip I'm going to ask my mom after the trip if I can donate so I can have a chance to experience all the events I can join and experience the events I miss for next year.



#79 Rulerofblocks

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 03:06 AM

I cant donate because of my parents, I might find a way though.

 

I dont want brohoof to die, its my second home. Its where i can go when i am sad, and be accepted for who i am: a dork. I can make new friends and just have fun, it wouldnt be the same if i didnt ever get to come back. Thia is the one place where i am not laughed at for being a brony, and humiliated in public. I can fit in, and i know other people feel the same, so i dont want me or them to lose this place, this safe haven. I cant believe we have people attacking us so bad we have to raise donations for protection, that sickens me. Just, sometimes i feel like this is the one place i can go and just be my real self. I can just talk like myself and have people understand me. The thought of losing this type of an almost "freedom" feeling, it just makes me sad. I know that somewhere other people feel the same way i do. (Maybe.)

 

But this isnt the end. Oh, this is merely the beginning! 

 

We have admins and just fellow players here who work hard to maintain this server, and some DDoSers think they can take all our hard work away! Lets show them that we are more than just a server of people, lets show them we are united together! So, we can all just turn our frowns rightside up, and do our best to save the community!


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#80 wondernerd

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 03:09 AM

I cant donate because of my parents, I might find a way though.

 

I dont want brohoof to die, its my second home. Its where i can go when i am sad, and be accepted for who i am: a dork. I can make new friends and just have fun, it wouldnt be the same if i didnt ever get to come back. Thia is the one place where i am not laughed at for being a brony, and humiliated in public. I can fit in, and i know other people feel the same, so i dont want me or them to lose this place, this safe haven. I cant believe we have people attacking us so bad we have to raise donations for protection, that sickens me. Just, sometimes i feel like this is the one place i can go and just be my real self. I can just talk like myself and have people understand me. The thought of losing this type of an almost "freedom" feeling, it just makes me sad. I know that somewhere other people feel the same way i do. (Maybe.)

 

We have admins and just fellow players here who work hard to maintain this server, and some DDoSers think they can take all our hard work away! Lets show them that we are more than just a server of people, lets show them we are united together!

 

You and me both, sister!



#81 Ratty

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 06:55 AM

If we had to shut down minecraft, we would be basically dead, so stop saying that.
If we ever have to retreat to just having forums and mumble, then we'd only serve as a place for people to stay in touch. The number of new people to replace the ones that leave would drop, and we would eventually die.
If there is really so little interest that people can't or won't donate, then we should just give brohoof an honorable death and move on with our lives. I could just pay out of pocket, but I'd rather only do this if the community actually wants it. I'm using it to see if this whole thing is worth doing.

We've been trying out alternative hosting, and the cheaper hosting caused all those disconnects. We moved to yet another server, and I think its showing to be mostly stable. So if this new configuration proves to work for us, the new price for the servers are now about $120/mo. Old costs were $575/mo. The old host did offer us a big discount when we put in the cancellation notice, but they should have stopped screwing us before we had to do the work of moving, so its their loss.

So even at the old costs, we were good until Feb. But now we're good for until summer.
This is good news, but its too soon to say if this new arrangement is stable, and can stand up to attacks as well as the old host. If its not, we'll just move again, and go with whoever is cheap, and can keep us online.

#82 iluvponies35

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 04:49 AM

I LOVE Brohoof! The admins, the members, the Yamato-class Japanese battleship under submissions...

 

I've built alot of amazing stuff on brohoof...A square house, eyeballs in a jar, a mansion with 155mm guns in the living rooms, a railroad gun, and a bunch of other cool sh*t...

 

I wish I could donate but I'm only 12 so I can't have a job, and if I asked my mom she would probably decline.

 

Anyway I hope the server gets more donations soon.



#83 Steelsentry

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 08:02 AM

now that I actually have money to spend I will likely donate sometime soon



#84 iTristan

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:19 PM

You should move the server to OVH's network, they offer free DDoS mitigation on all servers!



#85 Ratty

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 07:18 AM

That's where we moved to. Their support is notoriously bad, and there are a lot of horror stories about their service, such as them just shutting people off when they get attacked, but its easy enough to move again.

 

In other news, we got our first bitcoin donation. It was only $1.25, but it still made me smile.



#86 ioncann0ns

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 04:20 PM

I've read some horror stories, but from personal experience I've seen nothing but good things from OVH.
Very few issues, we had one support question just regarding their terms of service, and it's was answered nearly instantly and the response was quite funny.

I was wanting some further clarification on your policies regarding hardware in dedicated servers.
In the event hardware, specifically hard drives, fail due to normal use,what is you policy on that?
Is the customer responsible for the cost of replacing the hardware in such a scenario?

You are in no way responsible for the costs of replacing the drives unless you intentionally break them with fire for example.
Let's assume you've figured out how to send fire over the INTERNET, please do not do so on our servers. Your cooperation is greatly appreciated.
Thank you for your interest in OVH.


I'll let you know if we run into any problems, but we've been using them for months now and are extremely happy.
Hopefully you don't have any issues either, I quite like OVH.

#87 snivell

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 11:38 PM

Can you make a counter, Like how much more money we need to reach the goal?



#88 Hazzat

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 11:42 PM

Can you make a counter, Like how much more money we need to reach the goal?

There is no goal. The more money that comes in, the longer we stay around. When it stops coming in, the place goes down.



#89 snivell

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 11:50 PM

There is no goal. The more money that comes in, the longer we stay around. When it stops coming in, the place goes down.

Oh I see, I know this would seem selfish but hear me out. Maybe if you guys gave more perks with all the packages you would get more donations.



#90 Ratty

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 12:01 AM

Also to do it as a legit "donation" there would be huge fees. Paypal is 2.9% + $0.30 per transaction if we used donation tools. But since we ask people to send it manually as a gift (or now it is called "I'm sending money to family or friends" after you click on send money while logged into paypal), and when you do that, there is no fee, except to convert to another currency.

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So for $100 they would take 50 cents (which is to convert to British Pounds), as opposed to that plus $3.20 in fees (2.9% of $100 is $2.90, plus 30 cents).

That is why we are stuck without fancy tools, unless we wanted to use 3% of your money for a neato widget that shows how much as been donated. I really wish we could have that, it would be fun.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 01:51 AM

Oh I see, I know this would seem selfish but hear me out. Maybe if you guys gave more perks with all the packages you would get more donations.


This:

The way I look at it, if people need rewards or a crowdfunding thing to donate, then its not worth running the server. We had a good run, I'm happy with how its turned out. We were under attack, and the community stood up for us and gave us enough money to stay up for a year.
But other people have to want us to be up for us to be up. If nobody wants to just donate to keep the server up, then I'll just move onto the next thing. If the money completely runs out, we'll just say goodbye and cancel the service.



#92 snivell

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 02:00 AM

This:

Well, Yea, I guess he has a point there.



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Posted 07 November 2013 - 02:25 AM

That's where we moved to. Their support is notoriously bad, and there are a lot of horror stories about their service, such as them just shutting people off when they get attacked, but its easy enough to move again.

 

In other news, we got our first bitcoin donation. It was only $1.25, but it still made me smile.

 

 

I've read some horror stories, but from personal experience I've seen nothing but good things from OVH.
Very few issues, we had one support question just regarding their terms of service, and it's was answered nearly instantly and the response was quite funny.


I'll let you know if we run into any problems, but we've been using them for months now and are extremely happy.
Hopefully you don't have any issues either, I quite like OVH.

 

I also use OVH for my minecraft server, website, mumble etc. I've never had any issues or downtime.



#94 greebster

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 01:45 PM

I sent in about £5 (it may have been less because I used the fast feature) a while ago, followed by £10 last night, followed immediately after by £5.50... I was being cautious because I need bus money and stuff  :rainbowlaugh:

 

I am happy now that I've done something, if not a whole lot, to support Brohoof.


Who needs perks when the good-will of it all is enough to behold?



#95 snivell

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:30 PM

Now, I don't get on the server very often but I respect the server and like the idea of it a lot. I hope to see it stay up.



#96 SugarCrystal

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 09:59 PM

I donated a little because I don't have much.



#97 Prince Polaris

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 09:05 PM

the Yamato-class Japanese battleship under submissions...

AHA!

SO THAT'S WHERE IT IS!!

I'VE BEEN SEARCHING FOR THAT SHIP SO I CAN RUB IT IN CLEF'S FACE!!

AHAHAHAHAHAHA!



#98 LightningIgnitor

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Posted 25 November 2013 - 11:33 PM

If we donate should we also get more CMC entry chances or unlimited?

#99 Hazzat

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 12:38 AM

If we donate should we also get more CMC entry chances or unlimited?

Nope, and we never plan to add that. What's the point of having an elite builder rank if you can just buy your way in?



#100 tudexd

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 01:37 AM

Nope, and we never plan to add that. What's the point of having an elite builder rank if you can just buy your way in?



We would turn into the TF2 comunity where all those rich bastards buy all the good guns and we hard working players from orange box get screwed over


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