Last time I tried this I got a little swamped, so I'll just be taking three requests at a time. That way, if people actually want to request something, I should be able to get around to drawing it. I'd like to improve, and seeing as that would require drawing ponies, I figured that I might as well draw OCs. Eh.. and I'm thinking of making a deviantart or tumblr, but I'll see how this goes.
He did these for me very recently. Very good artist who did everything I asked for, and in good time. I have to thank you very much for putting up for my shit Sen, lol. He's really talented, I doubt you won't get what you want from him
Can you do this pegasus, with a paintbrush (with red paint) in her mouth,a cream fedora and a white shirt please? If its too much, don't worry with the shirt or hat.
I see your first three slots are filled, but I am hoping (don't worry if not!) that I can pre-book one slot for the next three please! :3. I cannot draw to save my life, so my only pony reference is PonyCreator.
I understand if you're busy and don't want / can't do it, but if you could, that would be awesome *squee* .
Get outta Sylaek's swamp, Tsar and Blazing! Reserving isn't a thing, unless Sy says any different.
Syl stated that he will only take three requests at a time, he didn't specifically state that no more than three people may submit their requests. It is a little bit unreasonable to accuse someone of reserving a spot when it's not specifically stated that they couldn't do so.
That's not the point, it's just that he's requested only three at a time and I know it can be a little daunting to have more than that show up. It doesn't really matter that he doesn't have to do them now, it's more that he knows he's got to do them straight after and it won't really feel like he's entirely done when he has done his three if there are two other requests sitting in the thread. That might just be how I feel about art requests, so feel free to say otherwise if that's the case.
Tom:
Yeah, you're probably right about that. However, doesn't taking three requests at a time pretty much imply that those three spaces are what's being reserved?
Anyway, I don't want to start any stupid drama so I'll just take my leave here. Nice art, Sy!
That's not the point, it's just that he's requested only three at a time and I know it can be a little daunting to have more than that show up. It doesn't really matter that he doesn't have to do them now, it's more that he knows he's got to do them straight after and it won't really feel like he's entirely done when he has done his three if there are two other requests sitting in the thread. That might just be how I feel about art requests, so feel free to say otherwise if that's the case.
Sen's a big boy, I'm sure he can manage his own request queue.
The pose and what not, I don't really mind, surprise me
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Surprise! You get generic standing pone. Will get into more interesting poses when I think I can. Oh well.
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I would appreciate criticism - should I lose the fluff? Is the back too arched, is his thigh too long, does his hair look like a banana? I need to look at some animu hair tutorials... and never do ears like that again.
Neck is too thin -- judging by the arc of his back and the back of his head, his neck is probably as thin as the thinnest part of his front leg, and looks far too spindly to support such a large head.
I'm not sure what you've based the legs off of, as they don't look too much like MLP ponies, nor do they much resemble realistic horses. The front legs don't bend like that while standing straight; that kind of posture would put a lot of strain on the joints and probably lead to early arthritis of the shoulder and knee. Also, it just looks plain crooked. The upper part of the hind leg (the part that usually has the cutie mark) is too thin vertically--it ought to be shorter and rounder.
His butt is a little too high up in the air.
The eye is very feminine; reduce or remove the eyelash. If you want to go for an anime-style eye then adjusting the angle of the top and bottom lines and reducing the size of the shine might help.
There is a slight inconsistency regarding the bottom of the front hoof, it's a straighter line than the other ones and looks odd as a result.
The crookedness of the front leg I'd say is the biggest issue, with the neck being the second. Everything else is quite minor. Not my preferred style, but quite good.
Surprise! You get generic standing pone. Will get into more interesting poses when I think I can. Oh well.
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I would appreciate criticism - should I lose the fluff? Is the back too arched, is his thigh too long, does his hair look like a banana? I need to look at some animu hair tutorials... and never do ears like that again.
Ok well, this is on my own personal opinion, I don't know if it is the style etc..
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First of all take all of what I say with a grain of salt.
Okay! Well fluff I love and adore! In my opinion that is. The light blue background gives it a nice feel, it's better than just leaving it white. You got my front/back mane bang on, good job on that one there "More brownie points for you there", the only thing I really notice is that the eye lashes make him look female. But over all great work! And thank you! But I want to ask if it is a trouble clearing those eyes...? But it's totally up to you. I ain't the best with crits, but I tried for ya
Over all I like your style, But as Tsar stated there is some "refining to be done", I look forward on seeing how you progress.
Neck is too thin -- judging by the arc of his back and the back of his head, his neck is probably as thin as the thinnest part of his front leg, and looks far too spindly to support such a large head.
I'm not sure what you've based the legs off of, as they don't look too much like MLP ponies, nor do they much resemble realistic horses. The front legs don't bend like that while standing straight; that kind of posture would put a lot of strain on the joints and probably lead to early arthritis of the shoulder and knee. Also, it just looks plain crooked.
Actually looks more like he drew it from a skeletal picture. That's how horses' front legs are positioned anatomically, only not so prominently. If this was the case, ponies would have the same sort of muscle cover over it like real horses do, so there wouldn't be a point in drawing it in anyways.
Edit: Oh, and if you're into this sort of style, here's a fairly similar guy who's got some pretty good 'anatomically correct' drawings. Worth checking out if you need some inspiration: http://derpibooru.or...engel&commit=Go
Actually looks more like he drew it from a skeletal picture. That's how horses' front legs are positioned anatomically, only not so prominently. If this was the case, ponies would have the same sort of muscle cover over it like real horses do, so there wouldn't be a point in drawing it in anyways.
Still wouldn't be accurate; the shoulder is far too low, it looks like it'd attach on one of the ribs instead of up near the spine. But I see where you're coming from. Actually, given the way the shoulderblade is positioned, I would hazard a guess that this pony would look very odd when viewed from the front, as his leg would be sticking out from his back.
Anatomical advice etc. noted, and I'll try and take it into account next time. I like feminine, and would peg it for a male myself, but got that too. The flat-footed-ness of the front hoof is probably laziness on my part as I noticed that while lining but didn't care to fix it. The neck... :l it angles up pretty much as soon as the hair meets the torso to give it a (slightly more) reasonable girth on the sketch before I added the hair, but obviously that obscures it. I guess I'll just try to angle the hair so that it leaves some suggestion. The anatomy was for the most part fished from tutorials that someone posted in the 'show your drawing skills' thread, at least concerning the limbs. Thanks.
Anatomical advice etc. noted, and I'll try and take it into account next time. I like feminine, and would peg it for a male myself, but got that too. The flat-footed-ness of the front hoof is probably laziness on my part as I noticed that while lining but didn't care to fix it. The neck... :l it angles up pretty much as soon as the hair meets the torso to give it a (slightly more) reasonable girth on the sketch before I added the hair, but obviously that obscures it. I guess I'll just try to angle the hair so that it leaves some suggestion. The anatomy was for the most part fished from tutorials that someone posted in the 'show your drawing skills' thread, at least concerning the limbs. Thanks.
There should be more room between the edge of the neck and the edge of the hair, then, otherwise it will either look like the hair has no volume or the neck is too thin. Don't be afraid to fluff the hair out.
The snout shape and short hair makes it look overall male, but the eye is nevertheless feminine enough to throw some doubt on that.
Oh, one other thing; the bend in the rear leg is way too exaggerated; it should only look like that if the hind leg is raised up. As it is it makes it look like a weird mix between crouching and standing. In a standing horse that bend is little more than a slight deviation from a straight line; MLP exaggerates this a little for where the bone juts out, but it's still not a true bend. No part of that leg should ever angle above the horizontal like you have it.
Out of curiosity, would people prefer just cannon style ponies? Not gonna do it, but curious.
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gawd those legs gave me trouble.
Rip it apart, Tsar (and anyone else please).
The thigh is again exaggerated in length. The biggest problem is that the joints are positioned really, really weirdly; the front leg's knee is waaay lower than the rear leg's knee. The middle segment of the front leg should be made shorter and the lower segment longer.
The horn is also positioned slightly too low on the forehead.
Overall I'd say the legs are too long, and make the picture feel bottom-heavy. Ponies with legs that long ought to have larger manes and tails to feel more balanced; look at similarly long-legged ponies in the show.
In addition to the above, the thighs could be a bit wider at the buttock and stifle. This is making them look a little thin and lanky beneath the hip and above the hock. The body in general could also stand to be a bit beefier unless the oc is skinny, but in the future for skinny horses, it might be a better choice to thicken the chest because the ribcage is generally a bit more expanded than the flanks, but not much. From the show's standpoint, it's more obvious when ponies are standing towards the viewer as opposed to how you have it now, where they're perpendicular to us and the belly is more like you have it here. Your earlier picture of Hooviano also shows this upward slope for the belly.
Just venturing a guess here, but conformation-wise the front right leg looks a little too far back for that angle. Ideally, it should be a bit farther forward unless his chest is turned slightly towards us, but it looks like that might not be the case. Could just be me judging the angle wrong, but it caught my eye.
And yes, that tail and mane shading is a little wonky, but I think you already mentioned that yourself. Other than that and what Tsar said, there was definitely some improvement between this one and the last one. Keep up the good work, I rather enjoy this style. I'll put up my request when your list gets a little shorter, I think.
Ok, Syl, the most canon looks that i have seen from your work would be the foals you did for invictus.
Your style here is very nice, yet you know what everyone says, it's a bit disproportionate. But that's the way you draw, so keep improving, yes, but don't get put down about it either because that's how you do your stuff.
Btw, nice one of Sky Jazz's OC.
If you would like some positioning tips in dot points, here:
- Bring the butt forward
- Bring the front arm behind the body forward so you can see it all the way up and down. (half lengthways like | )
- Define that chest more. It seems a bit too small. Males have bigger chests than females, by the way. Because, females have curvy hips (dat flank do)
- Maybe bring the legs a bit shorter than they are. Maybe make the distance between the thigh and the outer edge of the leg in a bit closer
If you want some lengthening of those, with a bit of off-course talking, here:
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The flank and the back half of the pony needs to be closer to the front part, for canonical accuracy. It always gets me, because this is the defining act of whether the pony will look too skinny or just normal. (If you think about it, there's some stuff inside there that makes it need to be big... organs, that sort. And those organs are squished together, so yeah, closer together body so the heart can reach, mhm?)
For canon backs, females have a curve that slopes up, then goes back down the leg in one go. Males have straighter backs, because, it looks less curvy, yeah?
The front leg that is behind the body should always be further forward than the front one, because it looks like their body is then turned the other way, then looking the opposite direction to the viewer.
Pull the front leg that's behind his torso forward a bit more so you can see the top of it.
Make the chest bigger, and then connect the neck from there. Males have big chests, since they don't have curvy hips.
Now, what i was really here for:
Can you try out my OC when you have the time? Thanks
She has a big transparent watermark over her, so ask me at the time for a proper pallete. Because i've got exams and i'm busy and all.
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Don't do the crown if you don't want to. And forget the stars all over her if you must.
That shoulder bulge looks really weird, like they have a tumor or something. If it's meant to be a girl then the snout shouldn't be rectangular. The wing also looks really weird covering up part of the front leg, I'd recommend shortening it a little so that doesn't happen. The rear right leg is a lot more bent than the left one.
The shoulder bulge is actually good and should be there, but it shouldn't be so high up or so severe with this pose, it makes it look like she's standing to attention (a royal guard? idk) instead of just standing, which her back legs seem to be implying. The way the body is shaded makes it look like the body is liquid-shiny instead of fur-shiny, if that makes as much sense as it does in my head. Finally, if you want to go for a realistic style, the wings ought to be bigger
Nitpicking aside, your art is still lovely and definitely improving!
The shoulder bulge is actually good and should be there,
... Wut?
Tell me, where on an actual horse or an MLP horse do you see a shoulder bulge like that? It has absolutely no bearing to either type of anatomy. Horses don't have shoulder bulges like that; in fact, they CAN'T have shoulder bulges like that, because the bones of their shoulder aren't that shape. You'd only see a bulge like that as a result of a horrific injury or birth defect. Horse shoulders aren't even at the side of the neck anyways, they're positioned well behind the neck by the hump of the back, so it'd be in the wrong spot even then.
The shoulder bulge is actually good and should be there
The points of the shoulder should not go above the withers when standing. To do so would mean both shoulder joints are dislocated, and even then, the horse would likely not be able to stand.
... Wut?
Tell me, where on an actual horse or an MLP horse do you see a shoulder bulge like that? It has absolutely no bearing to either type of anatomy. Horses don't have shoulder bulges like that; in fact, they CAN'T have shoulder bulges like that, because the bones of their shoulder aren't that shape.
Not necessarily. The only time this would happen in an average horse, say a Quarterhorse or Paint, would be mid-stride on a canter or gallop with the front legs under the stomach. Alternatively, if a horse genetically has long scapula bones then it can happen, but I've only ever seen this once and it was in a draft/thoroughbred cross. It doesn't happen much, but it does happen. Not enough to warrant it in every picture though.
It also looks like the joint on the back left leg is slightly lower than the one on the back right leg. It might benefit you to try out some different facial expressions with this one as well. Even a little upward bend in the corner of the mouth could give a bigger impact from the picture, unless the point was to be standing a bit indifferently. Just a thought though. Apart from what's already been said, I don't have too much more to complain about here. I like what you've done with the shading on the mane and tail compared to the last one. Keep it up!
Not necessarily. The only time this would happen in an average horse, say a Quarterhorse or Paint, would be mid-stride on a canter or gallop with the front legs under the stomach. Alternatively, if a horse genetically has long scapula bones then it can happen, but I've only ever seen this once and it was in a draft/thoroughbred cross. It doesn't happen much, but it does happen. Not enough to warrant it in every picture though.
I was considering only the case of standing still. Even if the scapula was too long, it still wouldn't look like this, I don't think. Horses have too much musculature in that area to create such a small, prominent bulge, even while moving.
The most popular horse for showing or riding in the US is the American Quarterhorse, a breed known for being shorter, fatter, and more muscly in the legs, chest, and back. It would be rare for purestock AQH to have prominent shoulders unless they were emaciated. Like I said above, though, the only time I've personally seen the scapula go over the withers at a standstill was a mix with a thoroughbred, which are taller and skinnier especially around the withers and topline, and a Belgian draft, which is known for being wider and more cresty in the neck. Both of those major traits from those breeds made a rather bad case for that horse as the large crest in its neck pulled the neck ligament up and forward, pulling both scapula farther up and forward. It's the same concept as in humans, where the shoulderblades can be more pronounced in some compared to others, but it's not common in either species. Another case where it can happen is if they have their weight shifted to one side or the other and have a front hoof picked up to take weight off of it, but the pony above isn't doing that either.
You'd be surprised how much the scapula rises and lowers during riding, even at a trot. Bareback riding makes it more obvious, but watching others ride with saddles on hides the majority of what's going on underneath. This is why there's such a large gullet on the front of saddles. It's there to provide enough room for both the withers (if they're high, as they are on thoroughbreds) and, in turn, enough room for the scapula to rise and lower on both sides during movement, where they will naturally come up to or slightly over and in front of the point of the withers.
Again, the picture above is none of these, but hopefully that explains it a bit better.
Hello, I'd be interested in an OC drawing as well, but you seem a bit busy right now, so ill just keep an eye on the forum for the next available slot, if thats okay.
Sorry to interrupt, again, but I figured I'll just leave my stuff for my character here awhile incase you get the time. I hope you don't mind.
His name, Quantum Flare.
The colors I was hoping to be a light tan color and a purple mane (a dark purple) and the cutie mark of an atom like the one in the link below. Quantum is a colt, so male obviously, and I was hoping he could be holding a test tube, like in a lab, with a bluish color fluid inside, like the color of poison joke.
any sage advice before I pass the point of which I can not be bothered to return?
should I save this for a pegasus or something?
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not even actually sure why any manner of pony would get into this pose, but it's a go anyway.
Looks like some kind of jumping pose, but the legs are way too relaxed, I'm not sure what the heck it's supposed to be. I wouldn't go for this.
Given your trouble with legs in the last three pictures I would recommend focusing on the standard standing pose until you can do that one nearly-flawlessly before trying more complex poses.
Not sure who's OC this is, but if it's mine, it's worth pointing out that she's taller and more slender than most.
any sage advice before I pass the point of which I can not be bothered to return?
should I save this for a pegasus or something?
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not even actually sure why any manner of pony would get into this pose, but it's a go anyway.
Something about the forehead bothers me, it seems to be bulging outward a tad too much. Foreheads should slope down toward the eyes, not bend backward into them. The curve of the forehead should make a nice even circle with be bottom of the muzzle/jaw if continued. I also feel like you have your eyes a little too far apart, and the right eye is positioned a little higher than the left. Also don't forget that depending on the mane style, the left ear should be visible at that angle as well.
Your art is amazing! If you continue, that would be awesome. If not - We'll all understand. It's a shame this damn thing known as "life" blocks our path to ponies! xD. Enjoy your break :3
Edited by BlazingFury1996, 23 June 2014 - 10:43 AM.
Not drawn a thing since the last thing I posted here and everyone has probably died of old age by now but I'd like to try and get a few more requests done. This is supposed to be tsar's. I suspect the head might be too small and the torso too skinny. I'm aware of problems in the shoulder.
Not drawn a thing since the last thing I posted here and everyone has probably died of old age by now but I'd like to try and get a few more requests done. This is supposed to be tsar's. I suspect the head might be too small and the torso too skinny. I'm aware of problems in the shoulder.
Not drawn a thing since the last thing I posted here and everyone has probably died of old age by now but I'd like to try and get a few more requests done. This is supposed to be tsar's. I suspect the head might be too small and the torso too skinny. I'm aware of problems in the shoulder.
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Torso's fine, the body's too big if anything. And note that female ponies in particular shouldn't have big bulging shoulders like that, it looks too masculine.
I need to improve my method or my patience because I find myself getting more and more bored the closer I am to finishing.
Definitely That's why I'm so lazy and use binary and the fill tool in SAI. I love drawing it, but as soon as it comes to colouring it's just plain tedious.