hello ladies and gentlemen welcome to
another thing where I talk about things
today we have some important news we've
got key news related to the title of
this video YouTube is killing us off
I'll get to that and then we've got good
news and then we've got a follow-up to
the key news where I'm going to go into
some explanation about what's going on
you've probably heard about some of the
YouTube drama recently what with
PewDiePie threatening to shut down his
channel and then acting like oh no I was
just kidding I wasn't really going to do
that but it's been a big deal and any of
the we will get to that before we start
though I want to start with the good
news the good news is that we're
planning to start a new series we're
gonna call it the Council of paetynn if
you're not familiar with Payton Payton
is a monkey lady lady monkey little
redheaded monkey who we've used in our
let's play stuff and for the longest
time we wanted to do like an actual
cartoon featuring peyton rae and some of
our other characters we were gonna call
it Banana Republic and then we changed
our mind and I wanted to call it
semi-intelligent we had a little bit of
internal disagreement but I think
semi-intelligent is a good title darn it
but anyway what we're gonna do is it's
gonna be a sort of it's sort of like
like you know the twitch cam girls and
whatnot who likes it out there and
they're like underwear and they're just
like oh I'm playing the I'm playing the
game but we're gonna do something like
that with our character Payton but it's
going to be life advice so we're gonna
open up a tumblr and we're going to take
emails from you guys and we will give
you life advice the videos will be about
like I don't know like 10 12 minutes
long is the plan so if you want to ask
Payton questions and have her give you
life advice ridiculous life advice send
an email to Peyton at dawn somewhere
calm and I'll put a link to that in the
description this is a new thing that
we're starting I don't know if it's
gonna be a weekly thing I'm kind of
hoping that it will be but the plan is
to do sort of a still frame animation
similar to what we did with Rainbow Dash
presents and we'll kind of get to maybe
bounce around a little bit we'll see how
it pans out but we're gonna do a few
videos figure out how the workflow feels
get a get a thing going and then we'll
start releasing this stuff on the
regular we've also got another video
plan and this is actually based on some
comics that a friend of ours did and
we're gonna call them J cartoons because
the guy who writes these comics is named
J and he called them J comics and and we
like J's we like J sense of humor so
we're just going to do some short film
based on J stuff there stick figure
things they'll be easy they won't they
won't take a lot of time out of anything
and it'll be a lot of fun yeah but now
let's get to the key news and and part
of what's burned just to do this we've
actually been talking about the Payton
thing for a while we're gonna have
pencils do the art for that so I'm gonna
actually be building the rig off of some
designs made by pencils if you don't
know pencils he's the guy who does the
anon anon pies Advent announced and
inés anon spy adventure and on and on
in PI and I in PI the marble pie is the
marble pie comics and a non PI of the
APA and on PI adventures anyway he's a
great artist and so we're gonna be
making his we're gonna be making breaks
based on his art and then when we need
the rigs to do something that when we
need Payton to do things that the rigs
can't do pencils will help us out and
he'll draw frame specifically for that
but it'll be a sort of lower production
cycle and we'll be able to do a bunch of
those and it'll be fun it'll be
interactive and like I say we'll run a
tumblr and you can send Payton tumblr
questions and and Peyton will berate you
and and tell you to stop calling her I
guess I don't I don't but anyway yes if
you wanna get a hold of that if you
wanna get in on that send us some send
us some messages we'll actually base the
first couple of videos on the messages
that you send us ask us whatever kind of
ridiculous thing you want you can ask
you can ask her questions but but
ideally what I'm gonna be trying to do
it's like an ask Libby thing like Peyton
help I need advice and then you get
terrible advice from a half-naked monkey
with a man's screaming voice so that's
the play yes but anyway though one of
the reasons why we're doing this is
because recently YouTube has changed
their algorithm to where they're no
longer promoting a bunch of channels and
a lot of guys that we know have been hit
by this and it's been a little bit
catastrophic like for example T ROI is
still doing what like a lot a lot of a
lot of these people that larger channels
are still doing okay but like if you
look at his stats on social blade he
lost like half his viewers from what we
can tell I mean like we haven't really
we haven't really talked to him a whole
lot about it so I can't say how he feels
about things or what's going on but like
you know he lost a whole bunch of
viewers and there's another trend that's
actually interesting and I'll get back
to that but he lost a bunch of viewers
pi mation has lost like 70 percent of
his monthly viewership we have actually
gone from about 800 view
800,000 viewers a month to 300,000
viewers a month so we've been hit pretty
hard and as far as I can tell what it's
doing it's not as bad as it sounds I
mean it's pretty bad but it's not as bad
as it sounds because it seems to be what
YouTube is doing is it's no longer
promoting content that we did in the
past so before you know like Rainbow
Dash presents was big and people still
still like really loved Rainbow Dash
presents but instead of you know showing
off the videos because they have
potential and people like them it's just
I think it's just kind of cut them out
of the picture and so it's not getting
shared around YouTube anymore
and so you know none of that stuff is
being watched videos that we post
currently are still getting hits and it
doesn't feel like they've gotten less
hits but the trouble is that because
YouTube isn't showing the old videos
around as often and is not trying to
promote any of our older content I think
that we're getting fewer new eyes on our
stuff so it's gonna be difficult to grow
going forward um but we've been thinking
about what we've been trying to figure
out it what exactly it is that YouTube
is doing because this is one of the
weird things nobody actually knows what
YouTube is doing or why they're doing it
because to the people who have been
affected by this change
it just feels destructive and we haven't
found who's growing yet there's been
some speculation from you know the DH is
like I guess some clowns on the internet
that that are like oh you know it's all
about likes and stuff like now at likes
and stuff now but that's not actually
true we've looked at a lot of animation
channels and animation has always
suffered on YouTube but it took another
hit with this update like animation
channels took a dive and I have a theory
on that I think it's because animation
channels often survive by being viral
and so this was the thing like like
tiara why I brought him up and I brought
him up for a reason it's because he did
that Rick and Morty animation which was
which was great and everybody loved it
and it got on the news like it did
phenomenally and so on the month that he
did that Rick and Morty animation like
you look at his stats and he was he's
got like 5 million views and then in the
following month he crashes back to 1
million views like he was getting 2
million views a month he crashed after
the algorithm changed to 1 million views
he does the Rick and Morty thing 5 you
know 4 or 5 million views then crashes
begin like goes right back to where he
was
so if I like virality apparently has no
value I think anymore I think this is
what's happened and this is going to
kill more animation channels because
previously like I mean like Rainbow Dash
presents was like our biggest draw on
the channel for a long time like we
really haven't topped it and all this
time because it takes months and months
of work to make like a half-hour video
even when it still frames like it is I
mean we do backgrounds we've got all the
colors and shading and everything else
like that like it's not a small
investment so we really I mean like
without like I don't know it's it's kind
of difficult to invest you know multiple
months into a project and then get it
out once and it's going to be even less
viable to do it now because it looks
like YouTube is not going to promote
channels that got big through like a
viral success like they did something
amazing and maybe they're gonna do
something amazing again but YouTube no
longer has faith in that and they're not
gonna promote the channel they don't
care so so we could do in this we
actually saw this with our Rainbow Dash
presents we released the last Rainbow
Dash presents star in yellow right as
the algorithm was changing and then saw
no benefits from it in fact we also had
a lot of people of subscribers even tell
us that they didn't realize that we made
a new star in yellow like we actually
like I was in a call with somebody and
he was he was like huh man like I really
love Rainbow Dash percents I wish you'd
make another one and I'd be like oh well
did you see star in yellow and he's like
oh you made another one and I was like
yeah yeah we made another one he's like
oh I didn't hear about this how come
nobody told me and I've seen that a good
couple of times like people who are like
just like oh man I'm so excited to see
you I'm a big fan and then just have no
idea that we did this thing YouTube
didn't tell our subscribers they didn't
they didn't they just don't inform
people so yeah we could we could work
really hard to build another Rainbow
Dash presents but as far as YouTube
helping us out with promotion or
anything like that like it might have in
the past at this point it'll be viral
just based on on the fact that you know
how to get on Equestria Daily and the
Equestria Daily would promote us they're
still kind of you know they're still
valuable to us but but YouTube itself
would just be like they've just breaking
those views and just be like yeah okay
fine you know it's viral
whatever and then after that they would
just kind of stop sharing it around so
the next month we would go right back to
whatever viewership we were at and they
wouldn't be promoting us anymore
but another thing that's weird that we
saw was I was looking at at channels
like animation channels that haven't
released content in like a year or two
years and we found that unlike us and
unlike pi missions and unlike t roi and
unlike a bunch of other guys that we
looked at
they haven't had a drop in viewership
which is super strange because like
here's a question like like so a channel
is active right it's uploading stuff you
know maybe maybe once a week maybe twice
a week like who knows it's up it's
uploading stuff like it's active it's
trying to keep people entertained why is
that losing viewership while a channel
that's been dead for like two months or
two years give me like two years dead
for two years why is that Channel not
losing views I mean they're they're in a
steady decline but the decline didn't
change like they're just following the
trend of like okay fewer and fewer
people are checking in on this because
it's old you know and what we think it
is is if you look at like past
statistics on this data YouTube used to
actually wait videos based on how many
of your subscribers watch them and and
realizing this this is actually a recent
thing where somebody did a whole
breakdown of the system based on
statistical data that they collected
from inside Frederator and I actually
I've mentioned before I've talked to a
Frederator rep and Frederator man like
that guy like he just he had a way of
putting a hole in your heart while still
sounding like well still trying to be
like really optimistic and like yeah you
know the future could still be bright
but but they were talking about like
Frederator was just like yeah you know
like we were really wanting to be this
animation thing and we were trying to
promote animators and then YouTube just
stabbed animators in the back and we
haven't been able to do animation sense
and Frederator has been trying to figure
out from what this guy explained to me
he's been they've been trying to figure
out how to make animation work and one
of the things he was telling me is that
initially those list videos that they
were doing it wasn't going to be all
that Frederator was they were trying to
do the lists so that they could they
could post the list
you know like okay every week we have
one of these lists or whatever and then
a here's an animation and they were
hoping that because there would be views
coming in to look at the lists that
those views would also transfer transfer
over to the animation but sadly that
didn't really wind up necessarily be in
the case the list videos continue to
perform well to the point to where
people who are doing the statistical
data they started just recommending to
people like if they saw you were doing
70 minute videos and they were kind of
boring quit doing your shorter videos
and just post the 70 minute things and
in spite of the 70 minute things being
inferior in quality because they would
have to be to be so long you know that
they did better the YouTube algorithm
just like them where they promoted them
more so just animation like it just just
as they existed they would not get
promoted even if the channel itself was
healthy and doing well and and they also
found that when you post a content that
people that your subscribers didn't
click on then your next video and your
past videos would suffer the promotion
would go down and you would actually see
a hit to your viewership like the
following time so so for example like
one thing that we did is I post the
stuff in the interim like I would work
on mass and stuff like that and in the
in terms I was posting Let's Plays or
like Monday music or these personal time
videos and the personal time videos like
at first the Let's Plays we're kind of
doing okay but they didn't pull the same
numbers as like the actual you know
mentally advanced series or anything
else that we were doing so what we were
doing is I think gradually sabotaging
the channel because we were posting
content that wasn't getting as many hits
which was signaling to YouTube that we
were falling out of relevancy even if it
wasn't really that people wanted to stop
watching our animations they just didn't
come to our channel for Let's Plays so
you kind of watch this is instead of our
Let's Plays getting more popular over
time as which is funny because we've
gotten better and better like through
practice like the Let's Plays have
gotten more polished the audio quality
has improved I do like a multiple
character thing we develop personalities
we tell these stories we have more
comedy you think that as the quality of
my work improved that viewership would
rise but
the opposite has kind of been the case
is we've gone from like you know a
pretty high number of viewers to a
fairly no low low number of viewers on
the Let's Plays and the animations still
do well but that's because the
animations get promoted on other in
other places like on Equestria Daily or
reddit or whatever so I believe that if
it was up to YouTube even our animations
would only be getting you know 4,500
5,000 hits or whatever you know because
they've decided that our channel is a
failure and they're just not gonna
promote to any of our subscribers and
this is the problem that people talk
about where they say like oh well you
know subscriber burn like our
subscribers aren't shown the content
anymore YouTube is watching you guys to
see whether or not you click every
single video and if you don't click the
let's plays because you don't care about
the Let's Plays YouTube stops notifying
you about everything they just they just
decide you don't want anything to do
with our channel at all and they won't
tell you when we release a new Rainbow
Dash presents so you know it's it's a
little bit strange so what we're going
to do is we're actually going to open up
to new channels and there's going to be
a blog channel and a let's play channel
and our gaming channel or whatever and
we're going to start moving the content
that we used to do the Let's Plays in
the block over to these other channels
and those channels will just be
specifically for that
and unfortunately starting from scratch
on YouTube is virtually impossible so I
don't I don't really know what's gonna
happen with those channels this is kind
of it's it's a little it's a little
counterintuitive to take content away
from your channel to try to rescue views
but like I say channels that don't post
anything are not losing viewership while
channels that are posting are actually
losing viewership so like I say I think
I think to prevent YouTube from killing
off our entire viewer base we have to
move content away from the away from the
platform or well I mean not away from
the platform I mean would be great if we
could just get off the platform but but
we're gonna have to move it away from
the main channel and then I think
focused just on animation on the main
channel and so that's what's that's
where we're gonna do with like the Jay
comics and the Payton stuff now all that
said like I said this is the theory that
we've got on this stuff like nobody
actually knows what you two
was doing and what they're trying to
promote one of the more interesting
things is that if you looked at
PewDiePie he lost like more than half of
his viewer base recently which is very
strange which is why he did that whole
thing where he was like well I'm just
gonna delete my channel cuz apparently
everyone who subscribed to me it just is
a bot or you know their their accounts
are deleted or whatever because now
they're not being served any of my
videos I mean like like for your biggest
youtuber to have a 50% drop in
viewership is just catastrophic like
especially when it just happens you know
within a very short span like that's
obviously like your your website has
done something that has really hurt this
guy and we're we were trying to figure
out what it was and what we think it was
as apparently PewDiePie was doing like
furry he stopped doing his gaming videos
quite as much and he started doing v
logged and the V logs didn't perform as
well as the gaming videos which I think
signal to YouTube the same thing that we
did when we started doing V logs and
gaming when people came to us for
animation which was it said like oh you
know nobody's interested in this channel
so the algorithm just you know cut him
out of the picture it was just like yeah
he's done you know like throwing him out
the dog he's he's finished so so I think
that if it allowed to go and update it
because this is a scary thing is we're
watching these graphs and we're looking
at the lines where people are just
dropping and I'm not seeing a plateau
yet we might still continue to bleed
viewers and so may some of these other
animation channels a lot of channels my
Abuela's game grumps I think dropped 20%
but they're a little bit close to what
YouTube wants to do we have seen a few
channels like for example hot diggity
demon is doing okay he has not had a
major drop-off but if you look at what
he's doing he's doing a more regular
content thing where he's animating which
is great but it's a more simple kind of
3d animation which is kind of
intelligent given given the way the
system works where he reviews video
which which I kind of dislike because I
mean like hot diggity demon is a is a
creator he's a content creator and it's
almost it's super depressing to watch
someone who used to make his own content
and his own intellectual property
suddenly start doing like reviews of
other people's word and I mean like his
sense of humor is still there and like
his he's still doing his craft and I
can't fault them for it but it's still
just insanely depressing the world to
see and
and this is funny too I recently spoke
to @rit twitch rep and I was talking to
her and you could tell the lady was a
little bit beaten down because I was
talking her I mean like again she was
enthusiastic every time you talk to
these reps they're always very
enthusiastic but you say certain things
like they're like what do you think is
the biggest trouble for you right now on
YouTube and I say well the the YouTube
stuff is a big problem and they just get
this there's just this like moment of
like this crestfallen sort of and then
they try to pick themselves up and
they're like ah yes yeah yeah you know
well like a lot of people are having
that problem and yeah you know but but
you can tell because like every single
creator they talked to is saying like
well what's the biggest problem for you
on YouTube and and basically it boils
down to well I can't create content you
know this is the biggest thing that's
killing me on YouTube is that I want to
be creative but the only thing that's
getting promoted is derivative content
or low-quality content and it's very
rough it's very hard on people so yes
that I made a metaphor for it and
essentially the way that I think it is
is I remember seeing somebody say
something like well I don't understand
how demanding people to make videos like
every day or every week or whatever like
that and have them be long like how is
that hurting there how's that hurting
their quality because you know you're
driving them to create stuff constantly
frequently you know like they're like
like imagine like what if you have to
draw a new art piece like every single
week you know you would get very good at
art and and the fallacy there the
trouble the trouble with that mode of
thinking is that it you've got to think
of it as like engineering versus laying
down gravel or something like that like
suppose you're a civil engineer and and
like the city the city kind of comes to
you and they say like okay make a road
well like an actual skilled engineer has
sits down and they do all the logistics
they do like long-term cost plans they
look at like you know what's going to be
the cost of maintenance over the next
ten years like when we have to replace
this stuff like how deep do we have to
dig there's a lot of like real
high-quality technical work that goes
into this and even though it takes a
long time and it requires a lot of money
to build a good bridge or to build a
good road you still hire the engineers
to do it because a good road
is better than a wooden bridge which
might collapse on you or gravel roads
and in YouTube though we don't actually
hire for quality our YouTube doesn't
promote quality YouTube is promoting
essentially the lowest bidder anyone who
can make lengthy content frequently and
get an online frequently that's who's
getting to the top that's whose YouTube
that's who YouTube is promoting so
essentially it's like if the city went
and asked for people to build roads and
the only person they hired was whoever
put the lowest price tag on the roads
and they didn't bother looking at the
actual quality of the roads at all like
if they had no way of doing it it's like
if they built a computer algorithm they
just said alright algorithm find us the
cheapest way to get roads and the
algorithm was like well I guess you
could just hire people who no no drive
out there with dump trucks and just dump
gravel like that would work I mean
that's super cheap and like whenever you
need to replace the road would you just
come out there with another thing or
gravel just dump it out there and and
why this is not going to lead to
qualities because it doesn't matter how
many times you're required to drive out
and just dump gravel out out of a happen
but like over a dirt path and make a
road you're still just dumping gravel
you're not actually like learning to be
an engineer you're not building anything
that's like valuable you're just dumping
gravel and the thing with these like
like people who are getting big with
like V logs where they just air their
own dirty laundry or they create drama
and air other people's dirty laundry or
things like that is that those guys are
not like building anything
we're bettering themselves or or growing
as people they're just laying gravel you
know and they could do it every single
day but it's never gonna be like a real
road it's never gonna be engineering and
you know it's it's just a shame that
this is what YouTube is really driven to
promote and and it's unfortunate because
we're we're actively losing people you
guys may not have caught this but silly
Philly Studios they were trying to keep
above water and they recently shuttered
their their doors because they can't
make it anymore with the with the
algorithm change the ad revenue they
were making has has completely crashed
and they're done they're out and I'm
I wouldn't be surprised if we see a lot
of other people do that same thing and
some guys I honestly kind of worry about
like I mentioned Pi Masons and I brought
him up because PI Masons is still a
young guy if you guys weren't aware of
this and in PI Masons I believe from
what I've heard he dropped out of school
to do this and I know a couple older
animators guys who do this stuff
professionally and who been in it for a
while and when I was like yeah yeah I
heard that he dropped out of school the
other animators the guys who'd been in
like the actual like industry because I
know like I know a guy who does like you
know real cartoons like that he does
like Netflix originals and stuff like
that he works out in Vancouver yes they
were just like oh oh he dropped out of
school to be an animator and I was like
yeah yeah and it's like oh no oh no so
um yeah but I mean he's young like
YouTube YouTube lured him in there with
this with this like promise of success
it was like oh look you're doing so good
you're growing and growing and growing
and then just recently they changed the
algorithm and now he's crashing and it's
just like man I mean that's the end
that's the entertainment industry for
you in a while
in a way like like becoming an animator
who could survive on your work is is an
amazing thing and it's it's something
that a lot of people want to do and it's
very hard to achieve there's a lot of
really great animators that
unfortunately get glossed over on
YouTube and it used to be that virality
was the way that you got big but from
the way it looks to me I don't think
that animators are even going to be able
to get big by going viral like your
video may go viral and it'll get a
million views or something like that but
that'll be it that's your flash in the
pan and then YouTube is gonna just
ignore you after that they're not gonna
they're not gonna maintain your your
viewers they're not gonna have faith in
you to produce good content again even
if the first thing you produced was
amazing in some fashion yes so anyway
though this all sounds like doom and
gloom but but the thing is though is we
wouldn't still be here if it weren't for
the fact that we're a bit tenacious and
we tend to not like to be kicked out or
killed so we've been talking a lot for a
long time and and we've known we've
always known that YouTube was an
unreliable
platform and we shouldn't have all our
eggs in one basket so on the bright side
for those of you guys with a pin in your
stomach especially those of you who are
our core fans you guys in our core our
core followers have actually we're we're
fine we're gonna be okay
because your support on patreon has made
it to where we can think we can continue
to function even if YouTube were to
completely shut down and would no longer
host our videos we started uploading
some stuff to vid me and we're gonna
start uploading our animations
consistently to new grounds which is
quite amusing if you know the history of
that poor site like the idea that we're
just gonna go like like then they're not
gonna give us any money but I mean like
at least we get some views out of it
like at least they'll promote us if they
think our animation is good goodness
sake I mean like Facebook is doing
something and we're keeping an eye on
that but but I think that there's no
there's no sense in trying to play the
YouTube system because with YouTube
system is going to do from what I can
tell I think they're going to start
mulching people up worse than
traditional entertainment does and
that's truly a feat but there's no
unions on YouTube there are no
regulations protecting anyone on YouTube
there's nothing here to save any of us
and PewDiePie himself may have just
gotten the axe if it weren't for the
fact that he threatened to delete his
channel he came back with a video later
he had talked to some YouTube guys who
told him that they were going to fix his
channel and that's great for him but we
are like I am almost entirely certain
that YouTube is not going to change its
course because they've done this to
people in the past and they didn't
change their course they're quite
callous about this if it makes them more
money they'll continue to do it and the
thing about this is is like you guys may
be saying to yourself like oh well you
know if they start killing off other
their higher talent content creators
then how are they going to be you know
how are they going to survive on into
the future and you know it's hard to say
but I like there's always going to be
videos for them to promote I mean they
can always just blow people up i I don't
think that you know them promoting V
lagers or reaction channels or whatever
is necessarily going to be less
profitable and they may not necessarily
die it's just that YouTube is becoming
in my opinion very very homogenous
because again we looked at channels that
are surviving and we're seeing like like
I say like movie reviews even when done
from a novel stand port
like we said we pbn and I were kind of
talking about hot diggity demon and what
he was doing and we were kind of I mean
like like I say there was a little bit
of just like you know that's clever
like I see what he's doing I understand
why he's doing it but you know another
movie reviewer man like or or another
gaming channel or another or whatever I
remember when I first started doing
gaming videos and I got a couple of mail
a couple of emails and people were like
Greg don't start doing that like like
man like do we really need more gaming
videos on YouTube who really need more
of this and I talked to that twitch rep
a little bit about my Let's Plays and
that was the point when she kind of fell
into a little bit of sorrow that I
caught I picked up on it and it was just
like because I was like oh yeah you're
doing the gaming she goes I understand
why and I was like yeah yep yeah it's
cuz it's a terrible platform so yes I
think it would be ludicrous for us to
try to play YouTube's game so like I say
so this thing that I've talked about
where we're gonna do these J comics and
we're gonna do stuff with like Payton
things we legitimately like J and and we
legitimately like the idea of Peyton's
my phone I apologize that probably
bothers people but anyway we legit
really like Peyton we legitimately like
J and the thing about these videos is I
don't suspect that they're going to go
viral they're not really they're really
not beholden to a particular reddit
community I don't see anywhere that
they're necessarily going to pull an
outside audience in but I mean like if
YouTube it's just going to be killing
our viewership no matter what we may as
well just do things that we want to do
and we do want to provide consistent
content like I said I did the Let's
Plays in the V log so that there would
be just stuff for you guys to watch
while I'm working on on bigger projects
and speaking of the next mass the
animation on that is shaping up really
well I'm really excited about that if
you guys follow us on tumblr Twitter
I've been posting some things one of my
one thing that's been fun is the the
mating rituals of the North American
rarity I'm in a working hard copy pastas
has been working with me on that one
so hopefully we'll have that up January
and we're going to Pony Con pony pony NY
con whatever it's an it's actually not
in New York it's it's
in New Jersey because it's cheaper in
New Jersey but anyway that we're still
working we're still doing stuff we're
still surviving we're gonna endure
because of your guys's support but I
don't think that we can work like the we
can't get big through YouTube so what we
would like to do if you guys really like
our content and you want to continue to
be notified of everything that we do
whether it's Rainbow Dash presents or J
comics or the Council of Peyton or
anything like if you want to be actually
subscribed to us and I don't mean
YouTube subscribe where they're just
gonna kick you off of the thing and and
and act like you know like like they
know what's best for you if you want to
be actually subscribed to us we've
started a newsletter mailing list where
we will let you guys know like every
month well salad will tell you like this
the content that we did or so on and so
forth and and we'll just send out a
mailer once a month and let you guys
know like if there's anything on our
channel that you wanted to see like if
it's like if we do another Rainbow Dash
presents we'll put that in the headline
will be like new Rainbow Dash presents
guys you're probably excited about this
you'll know you won't be out of the loop
because because YouTube decided that you
didn't need to know so yes if you'd like
to sign up for that list I've got a link
to that also in the description down
there also with the with the Peyton
matéo and the Peyton stuff you know
just go ahead and sign up for that and
we'll send you out a mailer make sure
you check your spam folder I think we
had a little bit of trouble with some
people got spam you know it's a mailing
list it gets kicked it it gets like that
oh yeah we're gonna do a mailing list
we're also kind of like I said we're
gonna start uploading to vid me
Newgrounds other places to try and be
less on YouTube because YouTube is just
not our future like I just don't I just
don't see that as being feasible in any
particular way and it's probably not
feasible for a lot of people anyone out
there who's thinking about becoming a
content creator yourself if you want to
get big if you want to get noticed
YouTube is not the way don't play their
game they'll kill you you got it you
gotta get involved with the community
like go on forums you know like if you
really like a fandom you know it's not
selling out if you really actually enjoy
a fandom and you
they want to make fun of it like we did
Steven universe and some people don't
like Steven universe but man like I feel
like some of the jokes that we had for
that were really funny and we were like
it's them from a conversation between me
and a friend we were just sitting there
like laughing and joking about like oh
my god like Steven universe and it was
just a funny conversation so we decided
to make a parody out of that it is
unfortunate that Turner Broadcasting in
China is able to claim parodies like
they can because that's a big pain in
the ass but you know it's YouTube for us
and it's part of why there might not be
a future for us on YouTube um who knows
maybe Facebook will be really good for
us maybe Facebook will be really good
for everybody and it'll destroy YouTube
I say this out of maliciousness I
honestly don't believe Facebook all that
great but you know someday somebody's
got to kick YouTube to the curb because
what they're doing is getting rid of one
of the only reasons why people get on
there is they're cutting you off they're
cutting us off they're cutting a lot of
channels off from an audience and
they're their big thing right now is
network utility people come to YouTube
because there's a strong Network and
there's a lot of people but if YouTube
refuses to share their viewer base with
you why are you on YouTube at all what's
the point you could post anywhere and
you could get more notoriety I mean you
know it doesn't hurt to upload like if
you can pull in an audience from some
other base than you know you might be
able to get yourself jump-started but
you know you'd be just as well off on
Newgrounds as crazy as that sounds
because you'll make just as much money
and you'll probably get more attention
than if you were on new ground on
YouTube at this point at least if you're
animating it really depends just put
your stuff every way don't trust any one
platform yeah but anyway though yeah I
suppose that it that's it's important
stuff
it's important stuff it's difficult
stuff entertainment is is an unstable
industry and it's a challenging industry
and you know there's no guarantee of
success you can talk about fairness
until you're blue in the face but the
truth is you have to work with the
paradigm that you're in and you got to
roll with the punches they throw at you
so this is a punch that YouTube is
thrown and it's it's it's quite a wallop
but we're gonna roll with it and we're
gonna do what we can to not get knocked
out of the ring I sound like I say if
you guys want to support us patreon is
keep
us alive currently it's it's the sole
reason we can keep going so we've got a
patreon if you want to visit that I've
also got the I've got the Payton thing
listed as one of our goals if you want
to throw some support at that it'll help
me cover pencils costs for helping us
out with that video if you want to get
in the newsletter we've got the
newsletter in the description and if you
guys want to send emails to Peyton and
have a respond to you go ahead and
contact us there we will we'll do our
animations and we'll have Peyton respond
to some of the more interesting
questions it'll be a little while we've
still got to build our rigs our
background and do a bit of scripting but
I think it'll be fun
and I'm looking forward to the stuff
that we're doing I personally feel like
I've made a lot of progress as an artist
and an animator and and you know well I
don't know what the future is going to
hold and it's very difficult to make
something like a 5 year plan when you're
working on the Internet
I have confidence and and I really
appreciate you guys that have helped us
get this far
if this winds up being the end man like
you guys have done I know you like you
guys have done a lot for us and it
really means everything that you've been
with us so you know you guys are great
thanks for everything everybody Oh
before we before we start right thanks
for everything
but also before I start moving over
content I'm gonna finish the defiance
series before I start moving everything
over the gaming channel but I'll make
mentions of it in the defiance video and
as for the the V logs I'll continue to
post those for a while and then once
we've got the infrastructure ready to
start doing J comics and the Payton
stuff on the regular that's when I'll
move everything over so it'll be a while
we'll have a little bit but but
eventually though we're gonna migrate
that stuff off so I'll try to notify
everybody and make sure that everyone
who wants to follow us is able to and
yeah so that's it so thank you for
watching me everybody thanks for joining
me I will catch you all next time
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