
| seapony #385783 11 months ago |
there now shut up or retake it yourself and stop with the slurs |
| seapony #385797 11 months ago |
also I hope everyone appreciates my attempt to turn Nyx into a scholar/teacher because it took HOURS |
| Anonymous #385820 11 months ago |
OMG I LOVE THIS <3 Why haven't I thought of this first? Seriously, testing Nyx with these Mary Sue quizzes?
I applaud you, good sir. |
| Anonymous #385824 11 months ago |
About half of these only count if you ignore the fact that she is technically a canon character, and about a fourth of them are flat out wrong. Nice try, though. |
| Anonymous #385825 11 months ago |
Is this based on the old version of Past Sins or the revised version? |
| seapony #385832 11 months ago |
She isn't canon. She's made up FROM something in canon, but nowhere in canon is Nightmare Moon still around.
Which ones are wrong? |
| seapony #385834 11 months ago |
It was based on what I read recently before giving up. So I guess the recent one? |
| cyberblade507 #385851 11 months ago |
Sorry, most of these still cross the line into "she's Nightmare Moon reborn, so it's perfectly justified" or "she's a child, no healthy minded adult is going to automatically assume she's evil."
There are legitimate concerns with Nyx being a Mary Sue, yes (such as her rapid acceptance, but that seems to happen with everyone in Equestria, or at least Ponyville, including Twilight. In fact the only exception I can think of is Trixie but that was because she was an insufferable braggart. Another Sue quality, however was her avoidance of real punishment), but one of the problems with this, at least in this particular quiz, is that she's a reborn version of a canon character. The quiz is only made to handle wholly original characters. Nyx is partly original, putting her in a gray area. Her natural abilities and aptitudes (i.e., those stemming from her status of an alicorn and Nightmare Moon "clone") are inherent, and the character would make no sense and lose much if not all plot relevance without them. The rest is a character study. Nyx on her own is naturally intelligent but a crybaby. What happens when you take a character like this, impose severe limitations on them (unnecessary glasses and clothing, lie about relation, etc.) then tell them they might be a monster, then have them forced to be a monster, etc, etc. Long story short, if it's actually justified in story and not an unrealistic glorification (in relation to the universe concerned) then it's not to be considered a Mary Sue trait. |
| Anonymous #385864 11 months ago |
Nightmare Moon was defeated, therefore she is not canon? Now you're just grasping at straws, my friend. |
| seapony #385870 11 months ago |
No, she was defeated, and there is nothing to say that there is magic left to create anything like Nyx. To me, saying she's canon and therefore not Mary Sue is like making a Stuish Harry the Bear and saying it's not a Stu because it's canon.
So Nyx isn't canon. |
| seapony #385871 11 months ago |
So NYX isn't canon, but NIGHTMARE MOON is |
| seapony #385888 11 months ago |
As for the crybaby thing, if more ponies got annoyed with her for it, or if it caused her major trouble, it might be more of a flaw |
| your_waifu #385894 11 months ago |
FARTS~ |
| Aquaman52 #385912 11 months ago |
Hey, anything that makes me feel like a relatively sane person for not being to get past the cheesiness of the first chapter is fine by me.
Fallout: Equestria is anything but perfect, but I haven't yet seen a fic in this fandom with better OCs. |
| cyberblade507 #385940 11 months ago |
Aside from Rainbow Dash, who doesn't immediately lavish Nyx with affection, who in the MLP:FiM universe does get annoyed with people for more than 20 minutes that isn't a bad guy?
Good show or not, most all of the characters in canon that aren't transparently evil/bad/negative/not good or have some arbitrary semi-contrived conflict are extremely good natured and accepting. In short, the universe we're referring to isn't realistic by our standards. We have to revise our views when making certain judgements about characters and how they respond to events. Honestly, thinking about it that way, I begin to wonder why people get so uptight about this stuff, including myself in retrospect. Long story short, why can't we just call it quits here, agree to disagree, and realize we're arguing about a fanfiction based on a show meant to be accessible and harmless to children? |
| seapony #385959 11 months ago |
That is a good point, although the fanfic seemed a little darker than the show (but what isn't). I'll just say that yes, in my eyes, Nyx is a sue who never gets in trouble, and isn't really a canon character. If I were to edit the story, I'd have Twilight make Nyx stay home from the play after party, and Nyx would not win first place at the tug-of-war because the magic bit was kind of cheating. If this were the show, it would need to show kids that they can't get away with things just because they're the most talented around.
But, it's a fanfiction. I will also admit I've never been a fan of those. |
| seapony #385963 11 months ago |
and thanks to everyone for being nice to me |
| Aquaman52 #385969 11 months ago |
^You're trying to inject regular logic into fanboy logic here.
Bit like stepping into the middle of a gang war and shouting, "Can't we be REASONABLE about this?" amidst the hail of bullets. |
| Aquaman52 #385972 11 months ago |
@cyberblade507
Was what I should have put. |
| Anonymous #385990 11 months ago |
Okay, crazy idea I just had, and apologies if it's been suggested before. The anti-Nyx position is she's a Mary Sue. The pro-Nyx position is it can't be helped. Easiest way to settle the matter: someone on the anti-Nyx side writes a fic that proves filly NMM != Mary Sue. |
| Anonymous #386729 11 months ago |
>Reads whole list
>Sees your point >Still likes the fic and character >No fuck given |
| Anonymous #386881 11 months ago |
Yeah, we get it. You don't like Nyx. Shut up about it already and set your filter appropriately, because people are not going to stop liking Nyx because you somehow 'proved' her not worthy of it. |
| Anonymous #386944 11 months ago |
Wait, what? Somepony still gives a buck about Nyx? |
| Anonymous #387199 11 months ago |
You know how annoying those MLP haters are? The ones who feel the need to take a dump on something just because it's wildly popular?
Look in a mirror sometime. |
| seapony #387203 11 months ago |
better than bbq nyx |
| seapony #387228 11 months ago |
And not because it's popular (although I will admit its popularity is what made me read it in the first place, because I heard it was good) but because I felt like it. |
| Anonymous #387240 11 months ago |
i take this test everytime i create a char just to make sure i havent become what i hate!
its easy to ensure that you dont have a sue though, for instance the char i thought up is a alicorn/dragony type thing, that escapes sue-dom mostly beacuse he's a massive cry baby wimp who looks like he was used as a chew toy by a hydra! |
| Anonymous #387254 11 months ago |
So... just another dumb hater or a butt-hurt fic author who only got 3 stars and 5 comments on THEIR story? |
| Epicplatypus #387306 11 months ago |
ALOT of those answers are wrong
I took the quiz after reading the revisions and got around a 30. But I agree with anon, why the fuck are people still complaining? |
| seapony #387404 11 months ago |
I don't write fanfic. |
| seapony #387410 11 months ago |
And why are people so worked up over this? It's just my opinion. anon 729 is doing it right. |
| Anonymous #387557 11 months ago |
So... just another dumb hater. |
| Anonymous #387601 11 months ago |
^^ Because, seapony, your opinion is at best out of date, and at worst an opinion masquerading as a genuine critique. |
| Sind #387613 11 months ago |
Mind you, this one isn't a "Dumb hater", but a quite a smart one, actually ^_^
A dumb hater would just go around flailing curses and whining about, while completely ignoring and/or bashing anyone who disagrees. This guy here, however, came with a good set of arguments, and even respects the opinion of others, as long as their objections are plausible, and not just mindless "HATER!" and "lolyoujustjelly" comments. |
| Emo-kingbeat #388888 11 months ago |
...I don't know who Nyx is, what's going on, or what I'm looking at...But I am enjoying the show! |
| Emo-kingbeat #388891 11 months ago |
Also, just throwing this out there, the ponies of Ponyville would probably accept anyone with big smiles and open arms. They all seem like really nice people.
Except Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon. |
| Stormy_Hero #390954 11 months ago |
22-29
Some definite Sue-like tendancies here. A little polishing might be in order to put original fiction and RPG characters back into the balance, especially if Kirking is involved. Fanfiction characters should probably have some work done. I'm sorry, but I came to a different result. While she is tending to Mary Sue, but it is still within the acceptable range. 50+ Kill it dead. Or make sure you read the instructions properly (some people don't do this, which causes freakishly high scores) and take the test again. I had 23 points at Nyx, which is only two points more than the normal. The only thing that makes them such a negative stand there and look like a Mary Sue does. That someone can not stand them, showing only the negative things. You should either ignore or tolerate Nyx. A hunt for a fictional character, I find excessive. |
| Some_Anon #392738 11 months ago |
>Picture.
>Argument. >Re-test. >Both sides have strong comments. >??? >MINDFUCK! |
| Stormy_Hero #394232 11 months ago |
The Test say it:
Who has a value of 50 has not understood the test. Therefore the picture above is not correct. http://www.springhole.net/quizzes/marysue.htm Seapony has used all the parts. Nyx is a fan character. No RPG character. Or an original character of a universe with its own history. So, only Part 1, 3 and 5 may be used. And not all of them. So next Time: READ THE INSTRUCTIONS FIRST AND READ THEM CAREFULLY |
| Some_Anon #401041 11 months ago |
How about we all have a nice hot cup of "Shut the fuck up"? I'll have mine right now. *slurp* |
| Anonymous #1105037 4 months ago |
Fuck Nyx |