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Satch
#537507
9 months ago
Ok, first off: It's named that on humans to, so don't come with any "Why should I bother to learn equine anatomy?" (saying it once again: "vagina" is only the inner tubing between the vulva and the cervix. It's called vaginal since it goes inside the vagina. It's that simple. It'd be like calling your dick for "prostate" or "urethra".) I will however admit this is not really completely pony related, but parts of it are.

This rant goes out to a number of different people in general. (I know better then just accuse all of you, some do have common sense) Don't take it personally unless you feel directly targeted. And if so, if you want to complain: Come at me, BUT. Use VALID arguments, otherwise you can talk to my foot, cuz my hand ain't listening.
Now that that's out of the way, I just want to clarify a few things.

It has come to my attention that there is quite a large number of you guys that seems to think it's gross with anatomically correct ponies. With one large exception for quite many in that category: Just female ponies. From what I've seen, you seem to find male anatomy totally ok. Or that "it would look weird otherwise". And I find this greatly to be a double standard. You are denying something the right to be shown with the same reason you are agreeing something should be shown basically. (And on a side note: Regarding colour of it: Humans have pink vulva's. Like almost every other animal, if follows a simple colour code: Same colour on both pair of lips. Making the "candy vag" joke quite accurate as they seem to share coat and lip colour. (the few that doesn't usually have the same colour as their flesh. This applies to males to, both of the "rules")

This leads to my second /\, I've seen a few other animal's vulva's. It's not like I scream, shun away and cry if I happen to come into contact with them as some of you seem to think would be the appropriate response. Seriously, guys, it's just anatomy. And unless it's "doing" something, I don't see the big idea. Now, you have all the right to look away if something is to your dismay, but don't fuzz so much about it. Anyhow, back to the point. They're not THAT different. Both got folds, fleshy parts and various features. They're not made to look sexy, they're made to function. Not be glared at and judged. And neither are penises.

Third: Have most of you even looked at a vulva? And I mean a REAL one? Since allot of porn stars cut theirs to look symmetric and smooth. They have surgery where they slice of the labia and etc. Go look up "Wall of vagina's" (despite the name being technically wrong) and take a good look. About 5 % of females have the symmetric, small and slick vulva pretty much posted, shown and presented everywhere. And I don't dislike that shape at all, as long as it's natural. If artificial, I get put off by it. More and more women consider and go through with surgery, just to "be normal". A "normal" that was artificially created.

Do you know what this shape is supposed to resemble? The "design" of the popular vulva? A child's vulva. No really, it's small, compact and nearly featureless. And this is what you guys (aimed at the ones that actually "demand/prefer" this vulva shape) want your "vaginas" to look like in porn. So don't come giving me shit when all I'm asking for is some damn anatomically correct art and some balance/equality in the whole. When YOU'RE asking to see little girls privates on a grown woman with oversized tits. (or in this case: a cartoon pony). Even so, just look up on "vulva" on wikipedia, and you can see that much of the time, it's even drawn flaccid. (yes, females get erections to, but for your sake, lets just call it "un-aroused")

There, I think I covered most topics I wanted to talk about. If you got any question, just ask.
And sorry for the overly long complain/rant. Hopefully it made some sense.
Jackarunda
#537509
9 months ago
All genitals are ugly in appearance.
Anonymous
#537518
9 months ago
Dude, they're just cartoon horses
AdrianBrony
#537526
9 months ago
#537509
>covering up for the "all vaginas look disgusting" comment from last time.

I'm kidding, you know.
PonyRIG
#537527
9 months ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M
SirPayne
#537529
9 months ago
This argument would only be valid if the internet made sense, which it doesn't in the slightest.
Anonymous
#537531
9 months ago
Good god, Satch. I can't wait to hear what you have to say about makeup as well.

Who knew cosmetic surgery could be used to make something look more appealing? Ever think that the reason why so many people don't like accurate anatomy could be down to not wanting to fuck actual horses?
Cgeta
#537532
9 months ago
Reality is ugly, that's why I draw things how I feel like and not how they really are.
But everyone has his own tastes.
Mushi
#537533
9 months ago
wat
AdrianBrony
#537536
9 months ago
a valid point drowned under quite a bit of hard to understand ranting.

I think...
Anonymous
#537548
9 months ago
I don't know why you're even bothering replying to a troll post in the first place.
Gittonsxv
#537555
9 months ago
i really do not care....real life looks ugly any way and i am turned off humans and animals in real life so cartoons are the only thing i look at and they dam nice.....schediaphilia away!
AdrianBrony
#537557
9 months ago
seriously though, if you're gonna try to make a point, maybe get it a bit more organized. rants may feel satisfying but they also tend to be really hard to understand.
Anonymous
#537560
9 months ago
TL;DR
All I know is I don't look at horse genitals ever so this doesn't apply to me.
Posey
#537579
9 months ago
Horse vulva are creepy? Stop being a prude; every female horse has them.

Also, don't people typically just see a stallion's sheath?
Van_Horsing
#537614
9 months ago
Jesus Christ, just drop it, guys.
AdamNovagen
#537616
9 months ago
The problem is not that it's an anatomically correct horse's vulva, you twit; the problem is that WHEN those appear on this site, they're almost inevitably on an ANATOMICALLY CORRECT HORSE. Which, as far as I'm concerned, is completely sexually repulsive.

Anatomically correct males appear on cartoon versions as well as realistic versions, and are not objected to for two reasons:

1: About 80% of the population here is straight guys, and seeing a dick does nothing to us either way. We HAVE dicks, so we're not repulsed by them, and we're also not attracted to them. So why the hell would we complain.

2: IT'S THE INTERNET YOU TWIT. DICK JOKES ARE POPULAR.

In short, I can (sort of) understand your issue here with horse vulvae; unfortunately, you really just ended up making yourself look like a horse's ass.
Jiranis
#537625
9 months ago
tldr
Satch
#537627
9 months ago
Just remembered something as well: Most of you seem to be comparing them 100 % to a real horse's vulva. Keep in mind these are 1: SENTIENT equines, they care for their hygiene and the like. 2: They are cartoon horses, it doesn't match 100 %. But it certainly is not human shaped. If you want human junk, go look at hentai.

And I know my totally awesome and flawless logic (/sarcasm) stuns the trolls to silence. But I'm not a author, or a news-writer or w/e. I'm don't just have ~20 ranks in writing and formulating a series of text. Common sense can only do so much for someone. Plus, English is not my 1'st language.

But my point was mainly that try to at least respect anatomy without using double standards, and if you have to draw human anatomy on ponies since you can't stand them. At least draw a adult woman's vulva and not a child's. Althou if you are into that kind of shit, then fine, go ahead. But don't dare to call me weird and act all hip and fly.

(Again, 90 % of my statements are made "in general", not aimed towards one person)
And Anon 531, when you (assuming you are a guy, most likely) make sure you guys do something about your saggy balls, wrinkly dicks and fat stomach. Trying to at least get into a sexy enough, presentable shape. Shaving your armpits and the like. Then come back and we can talk. Oh, and don't forget to cut of the ugly little "head" thing around the base of the tip, so the penis will be smooth and symmetric. Then we are on even terms. (I fail at severe sarcasm and whatever that other thing is called, but eh, what the hell :P)

Anyhow. My main point with this was if you guys continue down the path of just liking things that are not realistic, logical and whatnot. You will just end up disappointing yourself, since face it. Even if you pretend you are completely capable of differing reality from fantasy. You are most likely not. Not many can. It affects most of you subconsciously and you will just end up being disappointed. Media and the society is already on a good way of fucking things up already.
Jiranis
#537639
9 months ago
I prefer me some Cartoonlion stuff
Ninestempest
#537647
9 months ago
That is a terrible point and still barely applies to people who want to fuck cartoon ponies.
Kein
#537648
9 months ago
this thread
Anonymous
#537649
9 months ago
S(n)atch has problems differentiating real life from fiction. Assumes no one else, ever, has been capable of doing the same.

Never give Satch a copy of any GTA game. Or Mario.
Satch
#537652
9 months ago
And Adam, last time I checked, most of you doesn't give 2 shits about how the vulva looks, as long as you don't have to see it. If there's a big dick involved you can pretend is yours, and lots of cum, then you have all you need to be satisfied, yes?

And I know the majority of the internet doesn't have the common sense to understand pretty much anything. Or see it from a different PoV. But that doesn't stop me from trying. I know at least a few smart enough to understand will understand it... althou they likely didn't need to know the lesson anyhow.

And I appreciate the attempt of trying to make sense of my attempt to make sense. But I sadly can't speak the language of ... whatever to call them. You seem to also have a bit to high mental capability to do so. The ones herping around, jacking off not bothering to do shit are pretty much a lost cause anyhow. (aka: The tl:dr guys. And a bunch other)
Satch
#537676
9 months ago
And silly 649. I know there's a ton of guys out there that actually thinks all vulva's look like those of a 5 years old. Along with not knowing: Girls get erections. Girls can ejaculate. The hymen is 90 % just a bogus myth. And like I said: I know not everyone are like that, but it can be up to a surprising majority (depending the country and place) that actually believes these are facts. (the opposite of what I just mentioned) Some are also 100 % sure girls cannot have orgasms.

And I was afraid this would de-rail, but at least some coherent came out from it. At least from those with above ~70 IQ, or with common sense. And like Deadpool said: So rare it's a god-damn superpower.
Monkey_Zombie
#537677
9 months ago
^To each their own my friend.
Ninestempest
#537681
9 months ago
So people who have fetishes for unrealistic things are setting themselves up for some kind of colossal downfall?

I still don't understand.
Sygmus
#537688
9 months ago
human va-jay-jays just look odd on female cartoon ponies in my opinion. And thanks to Cartoonlion, it looks even more odd if the crotchboobs are missing.
Karadros
#537733
9 months ago
Oh god. You people are arguing about the unreal anatomy of cartoon characters.
You realise how silly this is, right?
Doctor_Whooves
#537734
9 months ago
To each their own.

But this is the most asinine, pedantic thing I've ever seen on here. And that's saying something.

Satch, I think it's rather amusing that you talk about "And I know the majority of the internet doesn't have the common sense to understand pretty much anything. Or see it from a different PoV." when you've made no effort yourself to see this from anyone else's PoV.

Why not just let everyone enjoy what is they prefer, and STFU?
thatguy
#537737
9 months ago
I think you care too much about this
marioandsonic
#537749
9 months ago
...yeah...I'm just gonna sit back and watch this unfold.

kassarc16
#537754
9 months ago
Stopped paying attention to Satch when they threw out the "pedo" argument.
Muffinoffun
#537767
9 months ago
Did I start something now?
Satch
#537790
9 months ago
Doctor, I mean the majority of the ones that fit into the category of... dunno what the word is, but I didn't mean "of all the internet". I know full well the PoV's availibe, at least many of them. For example, take two religious people arguing. It's basically "My god exists because I say, and know so. And your god doesn't since you can't show any proof other then spoken words" and the other one replies with the same statement.

And really? I thought you had been here with most of the drama occured. I hardly think I deserve the price for the best and most planned out rant dear DW. /sarcasm. One of my points was to point out how stupid it is for the ones jacking off to child porn to yell and call the ones jacking off to "close to zoophilia, but yet not due to them being sentient" perverts and sick while said mentioned did the same. It's like two drug addicts calling each other names. Despite both doing essentially the same. But yeah, as you might have noticed, the whole "not give a fuck" has only worked for the ones with a hint of intelligence in them. (Ie: Instead of whining on every single picture of x: Use the filter) Or the ones that ignore it on purpose. And I will not deny that this could have been totally awesome, made perfect sense and been mindblowing if someone got most of these points across with a better grammar and sentence build up, but that doesn't happen. So sadly this is as close as we're gonna get. Since I doubt any feeble (and I can state it as feeble due to knowing people 1: Wouldn't give a shit since it doesn't affect their porn if they ignore it. 2: Simply doesn't care. or 3: Are on the opposite side of it) attempt you, or anyone else could do would change that.
fanthrose
#537795
9 months ago
I personally think it looks weird if you throw human genitalia on animal characters be it anthro or not.
Icehawk
#537804
9 months ago
Being a pansexual, I have no specific preference when it comes the sexual appeal of human genitalia. I love cocks and pussy's both just about equally and in regards to the anatomically accurate portrayal of pony genitals these preferences are still the same for me. I love them both equally. I find that I prefer seeing the anatomically accurate stuff on ponies since it is more likely to look like that on them although I do understand there is technically some wiggle room for them to look different since the ponies don't look like real ponies in many other ways.
Satch
#537822
9 months ago
And Kass, I didn't throw out a pedo argument. I just stated that the vulva design most commonly used in porn, is the shape it is likely to have on a child. Not fully developed. But then again, maybe you don't want to hear the truth of what your porn is supposed to ressemble? In that case I am sorry. But I doubt either of those that looks at it would stop, even knowing that they got turned on by watching a replica of a underdeveloped vulva. As long as it got tits right?

And yes, it is immature of me to lash back with the same maturity of some of you guys, most trolls, and that guy over there. But making sense would be pretty pointless. Since I know with at least 85 % accuracy, that none of you would be capable of having a civilized discussion about this matter anyhow.

Oh, and I know most are just trolling and not reading all but a few keywords but: This was not just a "hurr, cartoon cunts" argument, it included human vulva as well. Since after all. How would you guys feel if all the dicks in art were drawn the size of a ~8 years old penis? Mmm, wouldn't that get you all riled up wouldn't it? Or wait, you'd might be able to notice it wouldn't be the normal 15 inch size all regular males have.
Doctor_Whooves
#537849
9 months ago
Satch, your unjustified display of pomposity is hilarious. Citing that you're 85% sure your opponents are incapable of civilized discussion as the reason for your own acting like a douche is pretty poor reasoning.

You should consider dropping this, as getting so worked up other people liking stuff you don't like isn't coming off as anything other than pathetic. I can at least sympathize with disliking the the foalcon stuff, as I also don'to care for it. But I ignore it. There's no sense arguing, as the rules aren't going to change.

On this genitalia issue, though, you're just coming across as pedantic. Nobody. Gives. A. Shit. As you've said, the porn industry has conditioned nearly all of society to a certain idealized aesthetic. Why the fuck are you bashing people for it here? Take your complaints to the porn industry if it bothers you so much.

As for me; I couldn't give less of a shit.
Satch
#537907
9 months ago
I'm surprised you still miss several details DW. You just try to twist my statements to fit your PoV. Firstly, yes. That's what I stated, but not in that context. It only makes complete context if combined with the previous sentences together. If I said ~95 % of all of them had sex with the same gender, you could derp over it, making fun of how wrong I am. Completely ignoring the previous statement of "speaking about homosexuals" (or w/e, just an example) I stated before I almost only makes general statements, and when addressing a "group of opponents", I only mean the specific one that is the most suitable for such behaviour.

For example, saying no religious people would respect an atheist would be a lie. However saying that no religious extremist would respect an atheist would be closer to the truth. But no, skip the whole pin-pointing and sense, sine after all, how will you then be able to point out flaws in my logic that aren't there?

And yes. I should, and will drop this subject. It's almost more pointless then trying to get the Islam government to respect and join in on "draw Mohamed day".

And I'm not bashing people for liking it, I'm bashing people for wanting woman to have the genitals of children, and then getting upset about it when I point it out. As much as I respect ~½ your points, the other half out as... much less desirable.
gillnavisingh
#537949
9 months ago
Let's make use of that Explicit tag!!

Anonymous
#538457
9 months ago
tl;dr
SRD639
#997113
5 months ago
-_- No wonder futashy became a meme.