
| Anonymous #356054 11 months ago |
Gilda has some possible excuses. Blueblood is just a jerk. |
| Crobarity #356055 11 months ago |
I agree with this picture.
But, I find both of them sympathetic, so you know. |
| Fuzzy_Logic #356057 11 months ago |
No, seriously guys, discuss
I want to know why people consider "horrible bitch on purpose" to be more sympathetic than "traditional poor royal upbringing insensitivity mixed with being a coward". If blueblood was a princess instead of a prince, people would be fawning over her like crazy! And I'm willing to bet if gilda was male instead of female, people would be drawing her with her heart being eaten by parasprites. I am reminded of sitcoms where abuse is okay if the wife does it, for some reason, but if the husband is even slightly rude to the wife, he gets booed and ridiculed. The wife can insult him as much as she wants and even get audience applause for it, but if the husband so much as calls her dumb, he's banished to the plane of unending suffering for it. And that is RIDICULOUS! Also more blueblood fanart seriously guys make it |
| Iona #356058 11 months ago |
I imagine they are both probably products of their environments. Blueblood was brought up high-class, and therefore acts snootily. Gilda just acts like she has severe social issues and clings to Rainbow Dash. But I don't know, I'm not fond of either very much. |
| Anonymous #356060 11 months ago |
You forget Trixie.... |
| anonimoose #356061 11 months ago |
If Gilda decided to make a heartfelt apology for her actions, then I would probably forgive her. Until then, shes a bitch.
Same with Blueblood, although he seems even more stuck up than Gilda |
| Iona #356062 11 months ago |
Fuzzy_Logic, are you asking us to actually discuss it, or do you just want us to agree with you and like Blueblood more? |
| Anonymous #356063 11 months ago |
I agree with this picture. People only let Gilda go because she's female and all bronies are horny neckbeards,
Meanwhile poor Prince who did so little gets ALL THE HATE because he's male. TSK TSK TSK on you all. |
| AdrianBrony #356064 11 months ago |
because blueblood is rich, and most fans can't picture anything other than sheer entitlement leading up to his doucheyness.
Most fans can imagine gilda having a rough childhood... and adolescence... and pretty much a rough life which is enough room to work with for them. Most fan's can't picture blueblood having done a single difficult thing in his life. |
| -flood- #356067 11 months ago |
I hate Prince Doucheblood so very fucking much. Thing is, I hate Gilda more than Doucheblood.
So yeah. But I agree with Anon1. Prince is simply spoiled. Gilda's problem is most probly related to her past. |
| Kooner #356069 11 months ago |
Ppl just like these type of characters ... nothing more.
Also a shitstorm is coming soon. |
| Anonymous #356070 11 months ago |
It's not so much that Gilda is a more sympathetic character, as you can kind of see reasons for why she is the way she is, and that gives you room to redeem her.
Blueblood, on the other hand, is a spoiled rotten idiot who has no conceivable reason for behaving the way he did other than him being a self absorbed douche. Thus - douche. So, it's more a case of who is redeemable, rather than who's actions are worse. |
| Anonymous #356071 11 months ago |
^Adrian
It could be argued that Blueblood too had difficulties in life, but for entirely different reasons. |
| Anonymous #356073 11 months ago |
> characters get treated differently by fans.
> assume it's sexism and not some other more likely factor. because other than sex they are identical in their personality and background. |
| AdrianBrony #356074 11 months ago |
#356071
first world problems don't count. |
| Anonymous #356076 11 months ago |
Why would Gilda have a rough childhood or life? She never mentioned any of that. Rainbow Dash shared a good part of her childhood with her and did not. It's a show where everybody lives in HAPPY PONY KINGDOM, wake up, Gilda was a jerk because she was and Gilda gets excuses because she has a vagina. |
| AdrianBrony #356080 11 months ago |
plus, I have seen 3 fics where blueblood is just as hated, and he gets torn down, only to be properly reconstructed into a decent citizen.
I think most fans see gilda as almost torn down to the point of reconstruction, but they see blueblood as nowhere near ready for reconstruction. |
| Fuzzy_Logic #356082 11 months ago |
#356062
BOTH "Gilda is a more sympathetic character, as you can kind of see reasons for why she is the way she is, and that gives you room to redeem her. Blueblood, on the other hand, is a spoiled rotten idiot who has no conceivable reason" This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. What reasons, exactly, does she show? Cite them, for real, I want to know what they are! She steals, she is mean to people, the only barely justifiable thing she does is get ticked off at pinkie for taking dash's attention away a little bit, but everything else is entirely fanon and made up from assumed context. Blueblood's mere presence as being rich royalty gives him room to be redeemed, because he is probably the way he is because of his royal upbringing, and there's likely a better guy in there. The fact that you'd refuse to even consider that, and just blindly go "he's a dick for no reason and that's that forever, no excuses" and "she's redeemable because I assume so" is exactly what I'm talking about. It's what makes it seem like sexism. |
| ArT3m1S #356083 11 months ago |
Well, I think Gilda just appears mmm misguided, while Blueblood looks like a self-centered egoist and on top of that pretty fucking dumb. |
| Anonymous #356085 11 months ago |
>#356073
What background? We never got any Background for both characters other than "he's a prince and she knows rainbow dash" |
| AdrianBrony #356086 11 months ago |
#356076
I'm not saying she DID I'm just saying we know for a fact that blueblood is rich and was probably rich all his life. it's not about what has been confirmed, it's what hasn't been jossed. |
| Fuzzy_Logic #356088 11 months ago |
Also I did not forget Trixie, Trixie is an entirely different spectrum of personality. She was show-offy and treated poorly by the main cast for no reason whatsoever (she was putting on an extravagant magic show and they immediately start considering her a horrible pony, wtf) and if anything was trying too hard and it backfired. |
| Fuzzy_Logic #356090 11 months ago |
"I think Gilda just appears mmm misguided, while Blueblood looks like a self-centered egoist"
But WHY? You guys aren't providing a WHY. WHY is blueblood an unredeemable monster, rather than misguided like gilda supposedly-without-any-justification-whatsoever is? |
| Anonymous #356091 11 months ago |
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| AdrianBrony #356095 11 months ago |
#356082
what I think is going on is fans can see gilda as already broken down to the point where she can then be remade properly, but they see blueblood as needing to be torn down still. |
| Anonymous #356097 11 months ago |
I had a discussion about this with a friend, and we came to the conclusion that there are three things in Gilda's favor that Blueblood lacks.
1) Design: Gilda is a griffon; she looks interesting and kinda dangerous, and stands out from all the ponies around her. Blueblood, despite his unicorn good looks, isn't especially noteworthy appearance-wise. 2) Coolness: Gilda has the "bad girl" thing going on, but more importantly, she can keep up with Rainbow Dash. She's good at flying, we can tell that immediately. Blueblood... well. He's an entitled, whiny doofus. 3) Sympathy: For all of Gilda's bitchiness and focus on looking cool, we get the feeling that she really valued Dash's friendship... and then, due to her own actions, she loses it. She may be a jerk, but she *pays* for it in a way that's easy to sympathize with. Blueblood? He loses nothing, merely gets told off by Rarity and is spattered with cake. If we had Gilroy the Griffon and Princess Blueblood, with other things remaining the same, I think the fandom's reaction would be exactly the same (except for "Holy shit, Rarity's canonically lesbian or at least bi!"). Agreed about the need for more Blueblood fanart, though. :) |
| -flood- #356099 11 months ago |
Non-stop comment rush for 10 minutes.
Were we all that bored, waiting for an interesting pic to discuss about? |
| AdrianBrony #356101 11 months ago |
also, fuzzy, if we were to come up with a legot reason to dislike blueblood more, yould you still resist ti because it isn't what you wanted to hear? because if so then this whole thread is pointless. |
| Anonymous #356104 11 months ago |
Okay so what do we know about Prince:
- He likes roses - He doesn't like farm food - He's afraid of getting dirty - Doesn't lie to people, he said he wouldn't eat farm food in Appleajck's face, displaying more honesty than she ever did - He likes to be treated with chivalry by a lady instead of the reverse. You know what I see people? A pony that clearly understands that all genders should live in equality. Prince Blueblood is a visionary, a refined stallion from Canterlot that treats everybody as equal. |
| -flood- #356107 11 months ago |
-After commenting and explaining stuff on this image, SUDDENLY A WHOLE NEW PAGE OF PURPLE PONY IMAGES- |
| AdrianBrony #356108 11 months ago |
#356104
except chivalry is about give and take. rarity gave several times to him, but he never gave back. that one difference can change what his motives were entirely. |
| Anonymous #356110 11 months ago |
LoL Fuzzy all of these are only your opinions , Trixie was bad no no matter what. |
| Anonymous #356113 11 months ago |
"You know what I see people? A pony that clearly understands that all genders should live in equality. Prince Blueblood is a visionary, a refined stallion from Canterlot that treats everybody as equal."
What I see is a male character exhibiting all the classic "spoiled princess" traits - or, what Rarity herself would be without her talent, work ethic and generosity. |
| Anonymous #356117 11 months ago |
He never had the chance to give to her. They were about to enjoy a nice dinner together when Pinkie went all gung ho and sent cake flying. Sadly for Rarity PRINCE was the faster, smarter and sleeker pony and managed to defend himself faster.
it's unfair to blame Prince for knowing basic personal defense |
| AdrianBrony #356120 11 months ago |
#356117
what are you talking about? right after he insisted rarit ruin part of her dress, he then insisted that she pay for food he didn't even like, and further insisted she opened the door. he had plenty of opportinities to give back. |
| Anonymous #356121 11 months ago |
> 356113
Who said that? Blueblood is royalty, royalty under Princess Celestia, he probably does deeds such as donating to charity and helping with kingdom affairs. |
| AdrianBrony #356122 11 months ago |
#356117
and basic personal defense is "get out of the way" not "push someone else in the way" |
| Anonymous #356124 11 months ago |
> 356120
Prince NEVER said he wanted that food, Rarity bought it and then tried to force him to pay, he only ate after Applejack gave it free to them both. He asked her to open the door because he wanted to come in first and possibly defend her, a lady, from upcoming trouble from the outside. Ruining part of her dress was the only thing he truly took from her. |
| TooOldForThisShow #356127 11 months ago |
I'm curious of where the idea that Gilda had a rough upbringing comes from, and how that excuses her. |
| Anonymous #356129 11 months ago |
> 356122
If he dodge'd it would've hit Rarity with full force. By hold her in place she only got diryt but did never suffe any recoil from the flying cake. |
| AdrianBrony #356130 11 months ago |
#356121
From what the show had his character as. (yes, I am referencing the show actually, not fanon here.) He was explicitly a selfish character that wouldn't do such unless he was required to or he got something out of it. the show's intent was for him to be spoiled and selfish. |
| Anonymous #356134 11 months ago |
> 356130
The show's intention was to show Gilda as a try-hard bitch that considered everybody but her and her little clique cool, to the point where they even punished her on screen to show just how bad she was. yet there you are pulling FANON excuses for her. |
| AdrianBrony #356135 11 months ago |
#356124
did you not actually watch that episode or are you just letting your conceptions recolor it? the whole pint of the episode was for him to be a major tool. everything that episode indicated was to make him selfish, not misunderstood. |
| Fuzzy_Logic #356136 11 months ago |
Still no one has given any justification for this supposed rough upbringing of trixie, nor has anyone denounced the idea that blueblood's also could be rough.
The fact is that opinions are well and good,b ut they have to be JUSTIFIED. You must justify your opinions! You can't just decide "this character sucks because I want to think that", or "this character had a poor upbringing that justifies theft and assault because I want to think that", you need to justify it. There IS such a thing as a wrong opinion, you guys~ |
| Fuzzy_Logic #356139 11 months ago |
er, *rough upbringing of gilda |
| Anonymous #356141 11 months ago |
> 356135
I know all that. It's just that if fans can make shit up to make Gilda look good because they like her... well, I can do it too for Prince. And without any fanon either, all I need is to see the episode with a twisted angle. |
| AdrianBrony #356142 11 months ago |
#356130
I wasn't talking about gilda, and don't put words in my mouth. She is still a bitch, but I got on a tangenital argument about blueblood, not gilda there. don't move the target in the middle of the argument. |
| Anonymous #356146 11 months ago |
> 356142
No tangent is being changed. The argument was always about both Gilda and Prince. Did you even see the original picture? |
| Anonymous #356147 11 months ago |
PRINCE BLUEBLOOD X APPLEJACK OTP |
| AdrianBrony #356151 11 months ago |
personally? I think of them about average, but I think that blueblood would me much more difficult to make decent than gilda. IHAT is where I think the difference lies. not lack of redeeming quality but how much needs to be done to redeem each character. but really the entire argument is pointless. if you don't like what fans do, it's really just sort of tough, because it is impossible to control fans and their opinions. I hate tyrant celestia just as much as you hate the hate on blueblood, but I don't bother trying to change anything. |
| AdrianBrony #356153 11 months ago |
#356146
I was responding to a comment as a tangent. I was believing I had gone on a tangent. if no tangent was made, then I made a mistake, I was not trying to weasel my way out of anything. |
| AdrianBrony #356159 11 months ago |
for the record, I don't hate blueblood, but I do hate the kneejerk accusation of sexism as the cause of the blueblood hate. |
| TooOldForThisShow #356163 11 months ago |
Why would Blueblood be more difficult to redeem? |
| AdrianBrony #356171 11 months ago |
#356163
because gilda really did lose a friend at the end of her incident. she lost something, even if she was mean about it. Blueblood has money and fame. for every girl like rarity with standards, there's 10 gold diggers who would stay with him even if he hit them. if equestria is anything like earth, anyway. |
| AdrianBrony #356174 11 months ago |
#356171
and if gilda wants her friend back, the process of getting her back would likely also involve her becoming compassionate if at least a little bit. |
| Calbeck #356176 11 months ago |
Why? BECAUSE RARITY IS BESTPONY, THAT'S WHY -:F |
| Anonymous #356178 11 months ago |
#356174
Forgive me for intruding, but where exactly did it say that Gilda wanted RD back? |
| Fuzzy_Logic #356185 11 months ago |
"because gilda really did lose a friend at the end of her incident"
She was awful before that, though. |
| MagicMarker #356186 11 months ago |
I'm going to get personal about this one, Gilda doesn't like the ponies, but at the same time she really likes Rainbow Dash. Whenever Rainbow is around Gilda seriously restrains herself and tries to be nice so she won't upset her friend. Yeah, she looks like a sneaky bitch because of it, but she still TRIES to put up with the ponies she just doesn't like. And in the end, she blows her stack because, in all honesty, wouldn't YOU be pissed if you got pranked over, and over, and over again, at a party in your honor? A party where you're the centre of attention, and people should be nice to you? And wouldn't you be a little suspicious if the one person who counts as competition for you friendship with your best friend threw the party that these pranks are happening at? And don't any of you pull the "BUT SHE WAS MEAN TO FLUTTERSHY BAWWWWWWW" crap. She was in a town surrounded by the a group of people she didn't like, and she had no reason to restrain her disdain towards the ponies because Rainbow wasn't breathing down her neck. And in the end, after having to deal with all the ponies she didn't like, she loses her best friend because of a bad misunderstanding, and she looks like a tool in the process.
Blueblood has NO excuses. He was stuck up, snooty, and he treated Rarity like garbage. I don't even like Rarity all that much, and even I was cringing at how facepalmworthingly rude he was. He was just a character made to cement the status quo of how shitty the Gala was. He was made for irony, not for any real conflict. There. Without using too many guesses at a past and stuff, a short psychological look at the two, with Gilda winning out in terms of who I prefer. |
| AdrianBrony #356192 11 months ago |
#356178
I said IF and she did say to "call her" if dash ever changed her mind. but that's beside the point. I'll try to simplify my reasoning for the difference in most fans: blueblood's known to be rich, famous, and well off. gilda is a complete unknown. fanon works on what hasn't been said. canon works on what has been said. it is canon that blueblood is secure. it is fanon that gilda might not be. for a writer to humble blueblood, they would have to make something happen to his security. for a writer to humble gilda, they only need to write as if she had no security in the first place. |
| Fuzzy_Logic #356194 11 months ago |
This is the kind of thing that just makes me go crazy.
"She was in a town surrounded by the a group of people she didn't like, and she had no reason to restrain her disdain towards the ponies because Rainbow wasn't breathing down her neck." So what you're telling me is that you, as a person, as a real, living person, believe the mantra "It's okay to be a bitch to people as long as they are strangers and your friends aren't around to judge you for it"? |
| Fuzzy_Logic #356197 11 months ago |
i mean seriously my mind is blowing apart at this idea
the idea that you think "Man, she was only a bitch because she knew none of her friends were around to care! She only HATED ANOTHER RACE OPENLY because her friend of that race wasn't hanging around to get offended!" is a justifiable, reasonable excuse, something acceptable in any way that's just oh my god you guys |
| Anonymous #356198 11 months ago |
> 356186 lol gildafag trying to protect his fap material |
| Anonymous #356199 11 months ago |
get over it. gilda was there to give the obvious lesson that you shouldnt be mean to others, while blueblood was there for comic relief. they both were one off plot devices and nothing more. |
| AdrianBrony #356201 11 months ago |
#356194
dude, this isn't about what's okay or permissible. it's about how sympathetic a character can be made. |
| Turin_Aramaia #356202 11 months ago |
All Gilda wanted was some time alone with Rainbow Dash. Just blew her stack because Dash's friends kept jumping in. |
| Anonymous #356203 11 months ago |
I don't really see the Blueblood hate much. Every single fanfic of him I've seen has tried to redeem him even if mocking him at first. |
| Anonymous #356204 11 months ago |
The reason Blueblood is a dick and Gilda isn't is because Gilda has some justifiable excuse (jealous of pinky for spending time with Dash, possible previous history with Fluttershy) and Blueblood just felt entitled. |
| AdrianBrony #356205 11 months ago |
#356199
I also like to think blueblood was a stealth jab a the notion that girls need a man to be complete. |
| MagicMarker #356208 11 months ago |
"So what you're telling me is that you, as a person, as a real, living person, believe the mantra "It's okay to be a bitch to people as long as they are strangers and your friends aren't around to judge you for it"?"
Thanks for completely missing the point of my little post. Next time read the entire thing before assuming I'm a complete sociopath. :3c |
| AdrianBrony #356209 11 months ago |
fuzzy, if you're trying to convince people to agree with you, it isn't gonna happen. you wanted us to discuss it? we discussed it. but if you're not gonna be happy until someone changes their minds, it isn't gonna happen. |
| MagicMarker #356213 11 months ago |
@198
Not really, I'll admit she's fun to fap to anyways. B3c |
| Fuzzy_Logic #356215 11 months ago |
I read the whole thing.
You made it pretty clear that you're saying "It's okay for her to do what she did, because she "only" did it since nobody was around to judge her for it" which is just astoundingly asinine |
| Fuzzy_Logic #356220 11 months ago |
adrian doesnt seem to understand that discussions have two sides. Holy shit dude, here's a newsflash: the goal is to argue your side! That means that on top of people repeatedly trying to justify gilda not being a bitch, I must repeatedly try to justify that she totally is! Crazy, I know, but "repeatedly putting forth ideas" is part of what discussion is, dude. |
| Anonymous #356221 11 months ago |
I like Blueblood better than Gilda because I like his design better.
So what? I'm shallow about cartoons. |
| Anonymous #356224 11 months ago |
u guys are so desperate for mlp material i swear XD thers srsly something wrong with u if all ur doin here is discusing characters taht appeared like once |
| MagicMarker #356229 11 months ago |
@Fuzzy
Let me sum this up for you sir. Gilda is more sympathetic because she had a reason, no matter how flimsy or stupid it seems, to be mean. And if you've dealt with jealousy, which I know I have, you'd know that feel bro. Blueblood didn't, he was just a prick. Therefore, fans prefer Gilda to Blueblood. Stop trying to dodge the subject by pointing out how /I/ am a bad person, which I'll admit I am. :3c |
| AdrianBrony #356236 11 months ago |
#356220
fuzzy, you need to chill. I already said I think of them about the same personally, and I just tried to explain what might be the cause. Iona #356062 "Fuzzy_Logic, are you asking us to actually discuss it, or do you just want us to agree with you and like Blueblood more?" @ "#356062 BOTH " that is what confused me as to your motives. personally, I think everyone in here, including me, is taking this all way too seriously. |
| AdrianBrony #356244 11 months ago |
fuzzy, check your inbox whenever you can. I had something to say but I don't really want to say it here. |
| MagicMarker #356253 11 months ago |
@Adrian
In all honesty unless he posts another pic, this one's just going to rot away in the back of the booru anyways. Might as well screw around a bit until it does. xD |
| Anonymous #356254 11 months ago |
Seriously guys, am I the only one that wants a Season 2 episode about Celestia sending Blueblood to Applejack's farm to learn some manners? |
| TooOldForThisShow #356256 11 months ago |
>she loses her best friend because of a bad misunderstanding, and she looks like a tool in the process.
The only misunderstanding was RD not knowing what a hateful bitch her friend was. |
| Anonymous #356257 11 months ago |
He doesn't even have to earn his lesson, I just think it got great comedy potential. |
| Fuzzy_Logic #356258 11 months ago |
#356229
But you're MAKING UP that reason. You are choosing to force a reason for her, while choosing not to force a reason for him. Why can't I say "Blueblood was insensitive because he was raped by nightmare moon"? If you're in the right to say "Well obviously gilda had this insanely stupid completely unjustified-by-canon reason for being mean, therefore it's okay" why can't I do the same thing? |
| Anonymous #356260 11 months ago |
noo dont bring back old one offs, that is not progress! better to have new one off characters! that way ge get more bang for our buck! |
| Anonymous #356262 11 months ago |
Now I'm confused, who was raped by Nightmare Moon? Blueblood raped Gilda? |
| Gentle_Coltte_of_Leisure #356265 11 months ago |
I don't feel like reading all this, can someone abridge this one for me? |
| Anonymous #356266 11 months ago |
...love and tolerance? |
| AdrianBrony #356268 11 months ago |
#356265
nothing of value was said in this, even by me. |
| Anonymous #356269 11 months ago |
I hate to bring this up, but isn't this somewhat similar to what people said about BonBon and about her being a bitch, simply because of what she had done and said?
Personally, I like BonBon and I like to pair her with Lyra and see her as loving and kind-hearted but quick to anger if somepony tries to force her to pay. |
| Anonymous #356271 11 months ago |
>356265
Gilda and Blueblood are jerks, fans like Gilda cuz she has boobies, fans hate Blueblood cuz Rarity has boobies, Adrian and Fuzzy are nerds. |
| frostedWarlock #356275 11 months ago |
The moral of the story is "No one-episode pony will be as good as Luna." |
| MagicMarker #356276 11 months ago |
@Fuzzy
>Jealousy >Made up reason Excuse me, I need to find a bigger hand to help me facepalm. |3 Do I need to seriously use allcaps or something to get you to understand man? xD |
| MagicMarker #356282 11 months ago |
@frostedWarlock
Hey aren't you the Scootaloo's Big Adventure guy? 83 Hey guys it's the Scootaloo's Big Adventure guy! I love your stuff so far man. xD |
| frostedWarlock #356284 11 months ago |
I'm the Scootaloo's Big Adventure guy! :D
Thanks! |
| AdrianBrony #356286 11 months ago |
#356271
sorry... I was being a nerd but I got carried away. personally I really dont' care. |
| Fuzzy_Logic #356287 11 months ago |
Hate to break it to you but your explanation mentioned jealousy exactly 0 times and mentioned prejudice against another species and a belief that it's okay to be horrible as long as your friends aren't watching at least twice. |
| Anonymous #356288 11 months ago |
Fuzzy - Gilda has at least a few positive traits. She's likes and wants to be liked by RD. She's a good flyer, able to keep up with RD.
What exactly did Blueblood do during his appearance that shows any kind of positive to his character? As far as I can tell, he's rude, self absorbed, and fully convinced that he's fully entitled to everything that he has. I didn't see one moment that he was on screen that he wasn't being a massive idiot. THAT is why he gets no slack from the fandom - there's nothing there to work with. In order to redeem him, you'd need to completely break him down to nothing and rebuild him from the ground up. |
| Crobarity #356289 11 months ago |
On the subject of BlueBlood, HOW is he a dick? He's a prince, with Celestia being the ruler! Don't you think Celestia would do SOMETHING to make the royal line look LESS like a big pile of douches? |
| Anonymous #356290 11 months ago |
> 356288
He's rich, well spoken, handsome and got sweet ninja moves. He's also strong enough to make a giant statue fall. That's more positive than Gilda. |
| Anonymous #356293 11 months ago |
> 356289
Why would she? Celestia LOVES mischief. She probably rolls laughing everytime she hears about the things Blueblood does. He's her favorite nephew because he's a dick. |
| frostedWarlock #356294 11 months ago |
The difference between Gilda and Blueblood is that Rainbow has been seen liking her while no one has been seen liking Blueblood, though honestly, I prefer Blueblood anyway. I'm just aware of Draco's Leather Pants store and how Gilda has a frequent buyer's card. |
| TooOldForThisShow #356300 11 months ago |
MagicMarker, I think your argument will be more compelling if you use extra emoticons. |
| Crobarity #356306 11 months ago |
@ 293: Yeah, but remember, this is the princess that a lot of ponies call a tyrant, having general pricks be part of your royal line that you don't try to treat isn't going to help much. |
| Anonymous #356312 11 months ago |
> 356306
Only fans call her a tyrant though. In-show everybody loves her and wants to impress her. That's why she likes Blueblood, he doesn't want to impress her, he's just enjoying his royal life and cuasing hilarious situations like the Gala's scandal. Maybe one day when Celestia get's REALLY bored she'll make him king just to see what happens. |
| TooOldForThisShow #356317 11 months ago |
I do not recall Celestia ever being called a tyrant in the show. |
| MagicMarker #356318 11 months ago |
@Fuzzy
This'll be my last sorta response for now, because it's obvious that trying to have a discussion with you is equal to having a discussion with Chris Chan on why Sonichu is wrong. Fans can like whatever the hell they want. Stop posting shit like this trying to stir them up into a whilrwind of butthurt and attention horsing. People like Gilda over Blueblood. Get over it. |
| Crobarity #356319 11 months ago |
@ 312: ... Good point. |
| MagicMarker #356320 11 months ago |
@TooOld
Well obviously! Everyone loves cute little emoticons silly~ :3c |
| MetalHooves #356335 11 months ago |
Blueblood isn't misunderstood at all. He's just a spoiled fucking brat. Being royalty meant everything was always done for him, so he expected the same treatment from Rarity. One could argue that it's not his fault, but you figure he'd know better by that point in his life.
Gilda was a bitch on wheels, but inherently most people do not antagonize, attack, and push away other people unless they've had some sort of emotional trauma in their life. This mentality makes Gilda a more sympathetic character. Additionally, people argue that she's heartless because she made Fluttershy cry, which I must say is unfair. Hold up a sec. [puts on armor for flaming shitstorm] Okay, so, my point. Fluttershy is way too damn sensitive. Being yelled at for no reason should not reduce anyone over the age of 12 to tears that quickly. Anyone could have made Fluttershy cry; it just happened to be Gilda who did. To summarize, Gilda is antisocial in a way that hints at emotional trauma; she desperately clings to one close friend while pushing away newcomers. This makes her more sympathetic. Blueblood is spoiled and unchivarlous, which hints at being spoiled and unchivalrous. Therefore, Gilda is easier to sympathize with than Blueblood. |
| SparkleTwilight #356337 11 months ago |
^Not alone. I'd love to see him covered in mud while hauling apples.
And to actually contribute, I hate them both equally (though I find Blueblood more fun to watch) and think that if Gilda's flimsy excuses (jealousy) are enough to give her a pass, then Blueblood's flimsy excuses (royal prick that doesn't know better) should fly too. |
| TooOldForThisShow #356339 11 months ago |
That is correct, MagicMarker. Putting a saccharine little smiley face at the end of every post is a meaningful contribution to its content and gives the impression of social grace. |
| Anonymous #356342 11 months ago |
Fact is: Blueblood is still a better character than Gilda because he was part of an episode much better than Griffon the Brush-Off. |
| MagicMarker #356343 11 months ago |
@TooOld
I know right? :3c |
| Anonymous #356344 11 months ago |
You need to remember that perception is shaped by experience, and everybody perceives certain things based on their personal experiences. A lot of people (me included) perceive Blueblood to be an entitled prick based on our experiences with similar people. I also perceive Gilda to be a character with more depth and potential issues because her behavior patterns match others I've experienced.
Every work of fiction has unspoken context rooted in personal experience. That's why people aren't going to accept this "Let's just look at the facts" type of argument without considering soft issues. You can't just say "Look at what this person did on Monday. They must be a horrible person based strictly on their behavior on Monday." But plenty of people read deeper without thinking about it, match the behavior patterns they see to established experience, and draw conclusions. This is HUMAN nature. You can't change it, and the fact that your experiences and interpretations lead you to a different conclusion doesn't invalidate the conclusions of others. |
| Anonymous #356367 11 months ago |
I've already expressed my thoughts on Gilda on other images, but in short I'd say she is a bitch who only acts differently when Dash is around so the pony doesn't see what kind of a person she truly is.
As for Blueblood, I'd say based upon his upbringing he believes he is above the other ponies and because he is royalty he should be treated as such. But I say why worry about it considering the fandom also views characters like Dash and Lyra as lesbians, Celestia as an tyrant, and the Apple siblings as incest. |
| sodomitor #356403 11 months ago |
Lol. So much shitstorm.
Well. I love Blueblood - he acts EXACTLY like Rarity. They're similar. Afraid to get dirty - check Want to be courted - check Thinks he\she deserved it just because he\she is a lady\prince - check uppity and egoistical - check (don't give me 'but Rarity is generous' crap. Blueblood can be too. We only saw how he acted towards complete stranger). I love Gilda. She came to town to see her only and best friend and that Pinkie Pie just can't take a hint and leave her, everypony looks at her ike she's a freak (they don't even know 'what's a griffin') and she gets ALL PRANKS and become a laughting stock on party. If I was on her place... well, I certainly would've blown up way sooner. Stop obsessing over manecast and give some love to them. Oh, stupid Fluttershy, she was being yelled... - FUCK HER. Gilda lost her ONLY FRIEND - where's your sympathy?! Oh, Rarity wasn't courted, poor Rarity... - FUCK HER. She thinks she can just hit on prince, Celestia's nephew and expect to be treated like his girlfriend? Somepony thought that Blueblood must have tons of mares that want to marry him for his title, political power and money. Why he would think Rarity is different? She didn't even tried to know him, she saw her 'perfect prince' and never gave a fuck about HIM. HIS wishes and HIS personality. |
| Pacce #356404 11 months ago |
The difference between the two is simple:
Blueblood is boring. He's just a self loving snob. Gilda has story potential, she was friends with one of the main characters and is a jerk. Was she always a jerk? If not then what changed? If she WAS always a jerk then how come Dash didn't notice? Was a Dash a bit of a bully in her younger days? Did she just not care so long as Gilda wasn't bothering HER friends? Did either of them HAVE many friends? So I guess what makes Gilda interesting is that she has a connection with the main cast that would be worth exploring. Also she's pretty. |
| Gnollbard #356406 11 months ago |
... Wow. |
| Pacce #356417 11 months ago |
Also, to the folks that say she just acted differently around Dash to hide her true nature, that brings up an interesting question:
Why? Why would she bother? |
| sodomitor #356459 11 months ago |
@Pacce
Because Dash her friend. She wanted to remain friends with her and tried to act differently. |
| Pacce #356472 11 months ago |
@Sodomitor
But then why is it so important that Dash likes her? I thought she was so cool that she didn't need anyone else. Does she have no other friends? Does she WANT any other friends besides Dash? This is what I'm talking about. Any interpretation of Gilda would warrant further investigation and would make for a neat episode/character. |
| Jimmytrius #356492 11 months ago |
Both of them are REAL douches, but Blue Blood made me laugh, something I cannot say about Gilda. I can't stand that character >_> |
| Anonymous #356502 11 months ago |
My guess is perhaps Gilda knew their personalities were completely different and wanted Dash to think she was as good a person as she was. Looking at the scene where Gilda snaps at Pinkie's party, even Dash seemed surprised at how she was acting and what she says to Gilda leads me to believe she was unaware of Gilda's true personality. |
| Pacce #356508 11 months ago |
^But then that means Gilda NEEDS to have Dash like her.
Which is... well... kinda sad. |
| sodomitor #356509 11 months ago |
@pacce
Because Dash is cool. They were childhood friends, they both were in Junior Speedsters. She doesn't need anyone except RD. |
| Pacce #356537 11 months ago |
^And now that she doesn't have her...
What happens now? |
| IronBrony #356544 11 months ago |
I'll just throw this in because I know only a few other people are of the same mind as I.
I don't like either of them. Not to mention that I don't care what the fanon decides because we'll never see them again in all likely hood. |
| Pacce #356566 11 months ago |
Oh IronBrony, I feel it in my heart, we will see EVERYONE again is due time. |
| sodomitor #356567 11 months ago |
@Pacce
Now she'll have breakdown and need to reconsider her behavior. What she wants and what she can do. |
| AetherNite75 #356588 11 months ago |
Aw snap, all these comments. |
| Fuzzy_Logic #356591 11 months ago |
"Oh, stupid Fluttershy, she was being yelled... - FUCK HER. Gilda lost her ONLY FRIEND - where's your sympathy?! "
AUHGUDHASUGHDAG SHE LOST HER FRIEND AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAFTER THAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT |
| Velcro #356599 11 months ago |
@Pacce Wouldn't that be an exploitable character flaw? The kind you can use as a story lever? An emotional weakness? |
| Anonymous #356619 11 months ago |
@sodomitor
Based on my personal experiences, her behavior is that of a person (or griffon) who desperately needs other people but has issues with them getting too close. Rainbow Dash was a friend she managed to keep, but she couldn't handle the reunion with other people contending for the attention of her friend (especially with she herself being made to look like a fool). Don't get me wrong; I do think her abrasive attitude makes her a bitch. Pranking Granny Smith and yelling at Fluttershy were bitch moves. But I know people like this in real life (and have counseled at least a few of them), and I can tell you that these are cause-and-effect behaviors. Only the mentally ill (sociopaths, psychopaths, narcissistic personalities, etc) are mean for no reason. Everybody else has a reason. This is why the whole "love and tolerate" mentality is so important in real life. Sometimes the most abrasive people you will encounter are the ones who most need love. Think about Gilda's last lines in the episode. She doesn't just say "Whatever; I'm out." She stutters and can't think of what to say. What she comes up with isn't cool or clever or witty. What is happening is obviously bothering her. It may be that the only person she values in the room is Rainbow Dash, but I think her reaction says that he's not just "a cool friend." |
| DaisyHead #356626 11 months ago |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEG3bEihO3A
gilda might have made fluttershy cry, but rainbow dash took it a step further. yes its in show. |
| Ponyholic #356632 11 months ago |
If there's any prejudice here, I think it has more to do with class than sex. People judge Blueblood more harshly because he's upper class. It's a type of character TV has taught us time and time again to see nothing of value in.
Look at the fandom reaction to Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon for example. They're the same kind of upper class snobby characters who think they're better than everybody else, and they're young enough that the "they should know better" argument doesn't really apply. People seem to hate on them plenty though, and in my experience far more viciously than anything Blueblood gets. Now, we can't really say what Gilda's background is, for all we know she could be just as upper class, but nothing has been stated for certain, so opinions are far more coloured by our own interpretations. To me (and the sense I'm getting from other peoples arguments) Gilda comes across more as the type of bully who comes from a troubled background, and yes, I realize there's no hard evidence for that, but like I said, our interpretations of the character are going to come into play here. |
| Turnways_Flip #356635 11 months ago |
Guys, I think the point Fuzzy is trying to make here is what I've been saying all along:
The extent to which a character's past is relevant to their characterization is less than or equal to the extent to which it is presented in canon. Suspending all arguments of "she lost her friend", which isn't fucking characterization, Gilda was only ever portrayed as a jealous thieving paranoid bitch. That's it. Those are all negative qualities. She has no canonical past, so Freudian Excuses are pointless and worthless. Even if she did have a canonical past, it's her actions in the present that make her what she is. A bitch. |
| TooOldForThisShow #356642 11 months ago |
And her behavior is far worse than Blueblood's. He's really just a clueless ass, whereas she has a toxic personality. |
| SparkleTwilight #356648 11 months ago |
I think Ponyholic is onto something. |
| Scumbag_Crowley #356665 11 months ago |
Guys, let's not forget how Gilda also stole (bearing in mind stealing is so taboo in Equestria it's nearly unheard of!) and apple, and scared a helpless old mare for kicks.
Jus' sayin'. |
| Epicplatypus #356683 11 months ago |
This thread
Tl;Dr |
| Lockstep #356691 11 months ago |
Like many commenters before me, I prefer Gilda to Blueblood because she seems to be the more redeemable character.
An aspect of everyone's hate for the Prince is that he's male, and thus more identifiable to us bronies. We have a better concept of what's going on in Blueblood's head since we're comparing apples to apples rather than oranges (females). We see the mistakes he makes, whether on purpose or by accident, and we can draw a straight line between what we would do and what he does. He fails the "bro" test. I don't know about any of you, but I think I could be friends with Gilda. Yes, she's a jerk, but I think she would have been much nicer to everyone if Rainbow Dash had caught her being mean to Pinkie in the first place and nipped the problem in the bud. Instead, her behavior just avalanched into what it became. For someone like her, all it would take is a properly-timed "stop being a bitch" from someone she respects, and she would be nicer to everyone, even when she's on her own. She just needs someone to cool her off before she gets started. |
| Anonymous #356703 11 months ago |
Well I like Blueblood, I think he's awesome.
He may be a douchebag, but he's still awesome. He's funny at least. Gilda was just mean, I hate her. I also don't like Trixie. |
| Pacce #356713 11 months ago |
@Velcro
That's what I'm saying. There's room for her to be explored as a character. |
| sodomitor #356715 11 months ago |
@356619
Hey, don't tell me that. I love Gilda, I understand her and I completely agree with you. I told something similar up here. I'm on your side here)) @Turnways_flip You know, nobody act like that without a reason. You watch that episode once, twice, and you start to think "why she acts like that"? And it seems you took simple explanation, labeled her as "bitch" and forgot about it. Let me say that - I know peoples like gilda. Some of them my enemies, some my friends. They not act like that just for lulz and bitchiness. They really antisocial, so for them make friends may be harder than for Fluttershy face dragon. |
| Pacce #356721 11 months ago |
Also, to hell with judging this by "redeemable vs not".
I'm not going to have breakfast with these characters. They interest me more as fictional characters for stories and between the two I'd like to see more of what they could do with Gilda. |
| TooOldForThisShow #356728 11 months ago |
>And it seems you took simple explanation, labeled her as "bitch" and forgot about it.
There is nothing else to label her as, because she's two dimensional and has no official background beyond "Dash's childhood friend." |
| Epicplatypus #356740 11 months ago |
Blueblood- Suck up, spoiled douchebag womanizer
Gilda- Was having a bad day because some pink pony she has never met before wont leave her alone while shes trying to hang out with one of her old friends. I sympathize with gilda... seems like she was unanimously rejected by everyone in town... Wheres the friendship mane 6? |
| Pacce #356744 11 months ago |
^Eh, if she had apologized, I'm sure they'd have forgiven her.
But she CHOSE to leave. Also Pinkie apologized for bothering her. She threw her a party. |
| Anonymous #356745 11 months ago |
@sodomitor
Sorry. Confused my replies there. |
| Anonymous #356746 11 months ago |
*looks up lazily*...cmoooooooon. its been 4 hours. GIVE IT A REST |
| Epicplatypus #356754 11 months ago |
You ever been in a situation like that?
Everyone in town is just staring at you... HATING you... you would run away, I know I would. no one has the balls to actually apologize in front of that many people. Somethign tells me Gilda is very prideful... Blueblood is just a douche |
| Pacce #356763 11 months ago |
^I agree.
But she DID earn their hate. She was a jerk to everyone there who wasn't named Rainbow Dash. |
| Epicplatypus #356772 11 months ago |
TBH... pinkie was being really annoying
that episode actually made me dislike pinkie a little bit sure she was kinda bitchy, but I feel like no one really gave her a chance. Her and Trixie NEED a redemption episode in season 2 |
| ThoDuSt #356774 11 months ago |
Gilda being portrayed as sympathetic is a fairly recent thing.
It probably comes attached to one-sided shipping (she does kinda seem like a jealous lesbian suitor). Combine that with the fact that griffons, in mythology, EAT horses which is something she managed to restrain herself from doing, even after Dash told her off. Also redeemable=/=sympathetic, it's possible for someone can be sympathetic but irredeemable, or redeemable but unsympathetic. In fact, from what I understand, a sympathetic but irredeemable character was at one point a fairly commonly used one in tragedy. Their fall brought on by their own flaws. |
| psychorange #356885 11 months ago |
I found Blueblood hilarious because he reminds me of a second cousin I have.
Gilda pissed me off because she reminded me of the jerky kids in middle school. |
| NetherLips #356958 11 months ago |
ALRIGHT GUYS I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO READ THIS BECAUSE IT'S OUT OF CONTROL I GUESS I'LL PUT IT THROUGH MICROSOFT SAM/XTRANORMAL LATER OR SOMETHING
The reason people like Gilda and hate Blueblood is because Gilda us given her own episode in which she is a bitch for no reason, yet has a friendship with Dash. When Dash takes the piss out of her she has an even bigger assfit that is the main cause for her leaving. This opens up room for fans to go "WELL MAYBE SHE LEFT THEN BECAUSE SHE LOVES DASH AND CANT ATAND ANONE COMING BETWEEN THEM" or "THE REASON FOR HER BEING MEAN IS ETC.", which allows for fanon character development to fill in the blanks. A lot f the people who do this get won over by sympathy, so it tends to go that way. Blueblood, on the other hand, has nothing to imply anything about his background, so when people DO write stuff for him, they are left with a less narrowed variety of options and since there is nowhere in the show that would insinuate that he is connected with any character other than Celestia beforehand (who doesn't get much screentime anyway). There is no starting block for people to base their ideas on, so he rarely gets a look in and fans tend to just go along with the canon of the show which is just "hey this guy's a jerk". At the end of it, a jerk is a jerk. Both these characters are jerks in their own jerky right, but being a jerk to anyone who thinks you're a jerk for being jerky to the jerk that is least jerky in your opinion makes you just as much of a jerk as these jerks, so pipe down. |
| WizardWannabe #356959 11 months ago |
They're both douches, but Blueblood is a rich douche. No one likes rich douches, especially unemployed 20-something neckbeards. |
| NetherLips #356963 11 months ago |
^ people who point out typos in that text are also jerks ok
SIIIGHHNN....... |
| NetherLips #356965 11 months ago |
I also think a lot of the reason is because Gilda is associated with being a HEADSTONG REBEL and neckbeards want to be that. |
| Old-Roots #356992 11 months ago |
gildas a fine piece of bum though |
| NetherLips #357041 11 months ago |
gilda has a good feather bum i would ruffle her feathers if you know what i mean you do know what I mean about meanie gilda I'd gild her with my penis |
| Fuzzy_Logic #357062 11 months ago |
netherlips
is the biggets jerk of them ALL /runs off crying??? |
| Old-Roots #357072 11 months ago |
gild her rectal hole with a white trim trim being my masculine cream id cream her with a belt across her bum and shed go down on me downtown that is for a meal in a resturant but id forget my wallet and leave her with the bill jsut like id leave her at the altar and dash her hopes when she was hoping to give me a free £35 talon job |
| Old-Roots #357077 11 months ago |
rainbow dash her hopes that is |
| NetherLips #357083 11 months ago |
wow fuzzylogic more like fuzzy lack of logic your view on logic is blurry more like furry woah now guess i really am a jerk more like jerk off while you take your shirt off |
| Old-Roots #357092 11 months ago |
shirt of and jerk off and rub the sweat off sweat being an implication that you had sex sex in a bedroom where there was little room room enough for 3 cause old roots has joined the party |
| NetherLips #357096 11 months ago |
and as for you old roots more like old boots from working in the mind shaft too long dick shaft that is from looking at applejack bet youd jack her apples she wants to get your appletree and buck it but anyway who wants to know hoof wants to know |
| NetherLips #357102 11 months ago |
mine*
more like mind though megamind with your forehead so big big unlike your penis |
| Old-Roots #357106 11 months ago |
big macintosh more like big macintom implying that im shipping you and macintosh together like a couple of shaft benders that you are bending around the back of mac around the back of a barn where he pebbled dashed your penis when you did him up the arse more like rainbow dash'd them because of how quick it was |
| NetherLips #357112 11 months ago |
wow used that pun enough times man even though youre not a man more like an empty shell like an empty room because nobodys in the room with you because youre a loner youre a loner and a stoner and aj gives you a boner even though you cant get an erection because youre a flip flop know what i mean yeah i know you do i can smell it from your mind |
| Old-Roots #357117 11 months ago |
netherlips more like never-having sex with mac-lips lips between the legs that youll never encounter being gay for a horse sending the code in morse like inspector morse who doesnt have to do much investigating to tell you that caramel is way hotter than mac anyway |
| NetherLips #357144 11 months ago |
i bet youd like to lick caremel off jacks apple while you jack her off then smack her off for hogging your crack because you lost it to ehr in a game of blackjack because you're so wack and she packs blam blam like jack black with a heart attack |
| Old-Roots #357148 11 months ago |
mother fuckers dont know that im a poet more class than braeburns arse in the grass like a snake so give me some slack mac or i'll kick you in the back and reach off and beat off and then lick his seat off and make you mad later muchacho |
| NetherLips #357186 11 months ago |
netherlips on the track more swag than big mac on the back of applejack while the flank's getting flogged flagged for deletion like dead horse of course cos my rhymes too fine for venetian snares cos these mares be trippin like crazy for me you while you fallin over youself cos your tongue is too lazy and your visions getting hazy while i'm flippin my flash cash for dash cos I'm a baller, gg aller playin tracks like b-ball with shaquille o'neal but i'm that little bit taller cos im like celestia gettin the best of ya in equestria more equine grime cos mine is finer than the rest of ya so old roots back down ouuta sight outta town cos im right with my boy, you hussie so step of our turf evan cos our logic is fuzzy |
| Anonymous #357188 11 months ago |
Blueblood in my eyes is stuck in the wrong generation. He's also a royalty, and I do believe he has a serious complex because of his relation to the royal family.
Gilda's just a delinquent. She probably didn't care at all for the Junior Speedsters. She was probably just into Rainbow Dash because she seemed cool at the time. |
| Old-Roots #357239 11 months ago |
netherlips is mad as he is bad not bad like michael jackson but bad like the molestation of children charges charging you with rhymes for giving me lip and hitting you back like a 9 tailed whip across the face of netherlips because thats how i roll and i'll never stop, flying through the air to deliver an airdrop into the stomach of mac to beat his ass because baby you know his loving is subclass like your passenger cabin on the track to appleloosa, youre jsut an apple-loser ill leave mac and braeburn grilled in the rectal area and they wont know what hit them, ill go back to the stem of the whole point of this rap and stay on track, ill head back to the haystack; viva la applejack |
| Anonymous #357243 11 months ago |
Oh no another crybaby fluttershy fan, I'm sorry you're still butthurt about your waifu being yelled at. |
| NetherLips #357258 11 months ago |
bad beats spitting rhythm time to make the decision when mac and caramel come a long on whom do i make the incision? cut open and slice like an apple on the board, wooden board like my penis its not heinous youre the only one whos getting whored cos i make my baby feel safe, at home its never awkward, while you have to pay to get your way with applejack round the back of the orchard |
| Anonymous #357261 11 months ago |
7 hour shitstorm...
...backs out of thread... |
| Anonymous #357263 11 months ago |
I can't stand Gilda for the simple reason that her style of speech annoyed the fuck out of me |
| Old-Roots #357274 11 months ago |
implications of a devious nature the applejackin love is a price beyond any wager the jelousy of netherlips and his love interest faker dropping his ass in the oven like a ballerific baker you step up to the line and lose yourself in seconds when it comes to tender lovin bitch im in the book of legends |
| Anonymous #357285 11 months ago |
I personally think it's because Gilda seems to have a more developed character than Blueblood did. Gilda was basically the center of an episode, Blueblood was in a few scenes as more or less of a joke. Gilda seems more "real" to the fans than Blueblood does. Because of this, the fans are more ready to believe that Gilda might have a chance of being redeemed than Blueblood does.
As for Trixie, I'm not sure why the other ponies got so critical of her at the start, but considering the importance of pony magic in Equestria, it's ENTIRELY possible that claiming to be the biggest magician in Equestria may mean something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT socially than it would here. |
| Anonymous #357289 11 months ago |
^Also LOL this is still going on |
| Old-Roots #357290 11 months ago |
you guys we're trying to have a rap battle here.............................. |
| Anonymous #357291 11 months ago |
Discussion derailed hard, though maybe that is for the best |
| NetherLips #357299 11 months ago |
you want your ass handed to you, then give me the place cos its fate that I'll be slating you cos your shit is overrated you can't spit you're a faker you're the Hawks to My Lakers cos erry day im shufflin, erry day im scufflin long the table cos im able to snort shit till imm bustlin through busy streets and errybody budgin out my way my hand slice through the crowd cos I smoke weed erry day and i'm on another plane, you lame piece of shit, i'm takin names cos im beating you in ten seconds flat at your own game |
| Old-Roots #357303 11 months ago |
back on the topic of gilda and ponies youre a subclass phony who's lyrics will always be corny you ass cant handle the boss rhymes of roots ill send you on a route with your ass on the end of my boot your lyrics are dated, moot, no longer acute like the edge on mac's sexual talents your time is over bentover over and barreling his skills at best are completely harrowing i got my swag on and my bitch applejack on arm so netherlips lips and mac, with cause for alarm bow out now before you come to further harm |
| Old-Roots #357319 11 months ago |
harm like the harm i did to big mac and braeburn where i broke their hips with my vegetarian meat pole |
| NetherLips #357322 11 months ago |
you talk about routs, roots but what's your true duty? taking braeburn up the chute while he shoots off in you patootie, and how come you can spit shit now I thought it that was only fiction-any body knows you must have used a rhyming dicitonary. Bitch you ever fucked a horse? I have and that's the end of my rap. |
| Old-Roots #357325 11 months ago |
Cor blimey I fucked the apples what more do you want mother |
| NetherLips #357337 11 months ago |
did you give her a bit of the what ho hows your father good day mrs bad crumble |
| Old-Roots #357339 11 months ago |
whats crawled up your bum-station netherlips dont answer that i know what youre thinking and besides your voice is awful its like a hoof to my brain i told you not say anything your voice sounds like 30 ponies being put to death gangland style and tom dont ever upset the applecart again!!!!!!!!!! |
| Old-Roots #357393 11 months ago |
i'll wear mac out in the sack, my nutsack that is, whats the scoop netherlips are you digging my vibes ill be digging caramel's, his trenches that is with my penis later gator ill snatch your gash later muchacho we'll be located in essex es-sex with mac and applejack that is. |
| NetherLips #357412 11 months ago |
well ill fleet off and beat off and then you can lick the seat off after im done with my pizzarito |
| Old-Roots #357425 11 months ago |
thats good i was getting worried the sweat was rolling down my arse crack like a small child's hand youre a silly twat and you missed my heart oh wait thats right i dont have one |
| NetherLips #357444 11 months ago |
what we need to accept here is that both of these characters are special in their own way and we shouldn't fuck with them because the last time i fucked a special person i went to jail for 4 years |
| NetherLips #357448 11 months ago |
also griffons cant get cutie marks maybe thats why shes mad |
| Old-Roots #357457 11 months ago |
youre a true friend netherlips bros b4 hos youre the best man for the job here a blow job that is |
| NetherLips #357464 11 months ago |
you promised we'd leave mothers out of this |
| Old-Roots #357477 11 months ago |
ill leave your mother leave her at the altar that is what im proposing is that i go out with her get her hopes up and dash them on the rocks my rocks if you get my drift yeah i think you do i can smell it from your mind |
| NetherLips #357482 11 months ago |
wow stop quoting ill quote you quote you a good deal on my penis if you know what i mean so what will it be noel deal or no deal |
| Old-Roots #357485 11 months ago |
deal that is to say deal with me deal with macintosh seeing me on the side my side the side of my bed that is |
| NetherLips #357498 11 months ago |
you wish you could have big mac but nope you cant afford big mac not even a big macdonalds burger only costs £2.40 240 every day smokin weed that is |
| Anonymous #357626 11 months ago |
@NetherLips
@Old-Roots Can you guys just shut up? This thread was to debate the realtive qualities of redemption of Prince Blueblood and Gilda. NOT TO HAVE A F****** EXPLICIT RAP BATTLE!! |
| Anonymous #357627 11 months ago |
@#357626
Yeah, you guys are derailing this thread. HARD. |
| Anonymous #357661 11 months ago |
Not reading the comments, just going by my personal opinion.
Blueblood is regarded as a complete douche because he single-hoofedly destroyed Rarity's dreams of meeting a wonderful stallion such as Blueblood at the Gala. He's a rich snob and is clearly spoiled, and since the majority of fans either work, are out of work, and/or are constantly making sure they have enough money to just get by, Blueblood's stuck up "I'm royalty and I'm rich so I'm better than you" attitude really pisses off the masses all too easily. Gilda, on the other hand, isn't rich or snobby. Her worst traits are her ill-temper, jealousy, and intolerance of Dash's other friends. These are still very irritating traits, and personally I really do not like Gilda and wouldn't mind not seeing her again. But at the same time, she left the episode she appeared in losing a childhood friend because of her actions. She lost something very dear to her because of her behavior and choices, which is a big thing, and it could later force her to change her ways and seek to right her wrongs. With Blueblood, he lost a date he had at the Gala, it's not like his royal dickfuckery cost him his wife or something, it cost him a night with a "commoner" who he had showed no interest in at all. |
| Old-Roots #357665 11 months ago |
Can you guys shut up an hour ago!!!!! |
| NetherLips #357670 11 months ago |
wow calm down down town in my lap |
| Anonymous #357672 11 months ago |
Personally, I see Prince Blueblood and Gilda both being jerks, but with some redeemable qualities.
GILDA: >Technically Pinkie WAS being a little too intrusive; if she had just let Dash have ONE day with her old friend who was probably just stopping by in the neighborhood for a couple of days, things would have been a lot better >I will admit, she WAS being a douche when she was trolling Granny Smith and yelling at Fluttershy >Technically, though, Pinkie did nearly the same thing in "Green is not Your Color" (unhygenically hide in apples, then steal one and eat it, then intimidate somepony) >"Pinkie DID apologize by throwing a party": You've never heard of a 'Humiliation Conga' before, have you? Go look it up on TV Tropes; the party was a big one >As stated previously, her state of rejecting anyone else except her one friend seems to correlate with being possessive and unsure of one's-self in real life >When she's called out for being a jerk, she loses her friend, she loses her dignity in front of a group of people she does not like but only tolerates since her friend likes them (in mythology, Griffons ATE horses; now, that's restraint!) >She doesn't leave with a snarky comment about how she hated everypony; she left stuttering and dumfounded that her one friend now hates her >CONCLUSION: Gilda is possessive and unsure of how to make friends, and in fanon is ripe for redemption considering she now lost everything. She has a reason for her behavior, EVEN IF WE DO NOT AGREE WITH IT TO BE MORALLY SUPERIOR PRINCE BLUEBLOOD: >He acts snobbishly and egotistically >He was (assumed) raised in an 'Old Money' royal family >Based on this, he never had to do anything for himself since servants would do this for him; and this upbringing would have told him that doing anything by yourself is 'undignified' >His sense of chivalry IS pathetic and reversed. Unless the MLP universe is genderswapped, it's the man who acts humble to the lady >He might have dismissed Rarity as another 'gold-digger' looking for his money and nothing else >Under examination, Rarity's fantasy for the Gala was just as ego-centric as his actions turned out to be, making her pretty much BE a 'gold-digger' (she assumed he would fawn over her, and that she would be glorified, and never advocated any reason wh they should marry except that he's a prince instead of for his actual personality) >Admittedly, him making Rarity take a cake for him was dispicable. I mean, based on that apple pie in "Over A Barrel" being treated as a moral wound, he basically made Rarity take an RPG for him! CONCLUSION: Blueblood is an egoist raised to do nothing for himself, but was also the victim of a two-way misunderstanding of conflicting egoes (egos? ego's?) TL;DR or are Fuzzy_Logic: Both of them WERE jerks, but were part of tragic misunderstandings. It's not sexism, but personality as compared to our own experiences with people of similar personalities that determines whether we deem them worthy of redemption. I love and loathe them in equal proportions, and believe both deserve "love and toleration" NOTE: Don't call me a bad person as to why my opinion is wrong. I KNOW I'm horrible! :p |
| Old-Roots #357677 11 months ago |
shut up shut you up shut you down with mac and caramel in my bedroom make room cause old roots is coming through with no strain like a train straight to your brain |
| NetherLips #357680 11 months ago |
you're a scootalooser |
| Old-Roots #357683 11 months ago |
scootaloose yourself in caramels eyes like he lost his hay seeds |
| NetherLips #357688 11 months ago |
you see me down on EQC national green comin up and over the trees not even cheerilee could beat me from G1 to G3 now there's a new G on the scene and I'm a motherfucking beauty queen |
| Anonymous #357690 11 months ago |
Again, Old-Roots and NetherLips, I'm not telling you to STOP, persay, I'm just saying DO IT SOMEWHERE ELSE! |
| Old-Roots #357692 11 months ago |
The only G's a roll with are my homies on the west side with all you G units to the 4 with extra 0s |
| NetherLips #357693 11 months ago |
everyone needs to calm down |
| NetherLips #357694 11 months ago |
G420 |
| Anonymous #357697 11 months ago |
@Old-Roots and @NetherLips
orange orange orange orange orange |
| Old-Roots #357698 11 months ago |
calm up and to the left, left macintosh at the church when marriage came that is |
| NetherLips #357700 11 months ago |
apples, actually |
| Old-Roots #357702 11 months ago |
smok weed evryday 420 420 420 |
| Anonymous #357707 11 months ago |
Gilda scared the shit out of Granny Smith. For a joke. You. Do. Not. Fuck. Around. With Old. people.
They're old; they don't deserve it. Granny's gotta be 70 or so. Complete dick move. |
| Old-Roots #357709 11 months ago |
what did the griffon say to the pony netherlips is mad thats what |
| NetherLips #357713 11 months ago |
whats that??? |
| Old-Roots #357719 11 months ago |
gilda was a bitch because it was her time of month at the time obvs |
| NetherLips #357723 11 months ago |
haha very funny old roots but no im being sarcastic sorry you ass |
| Old-Roots #357728 11 months ago |
youre blocked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| NetherLips #357739 11 months ago |
*reported for harassment maybe????????????* |
| Old-Roots #357746 11 months ago |
youre not that important |
| NetherLips #357757 11 months ago |
wow??? |
| Fuzzy_Logic #358028 11 months ago |
more like old scoots |
| TooOldForThisShow #358049 11 months ago |
Jesus H Christ. |
| Anonymous #358103 11 months ago |
I just pair Blueblood and Gilda together and end it at that....
Fanart now. |
| Old-Roots #358229 11 months ago |
^^^ how dare you |
| sodomitor #358379 11 months ago |
@357672
nice arguments. |
| Ferrotter #358382 11 months ago |
I think fandom pokes fun of a caricature of Celestia as an evil tyrant because while it's clearly not true, it can't actually be disproved from actual canon.
As to Blueblood and Gilda, I dislike them both (Trixie too), so I'm unbiased. But of the three I think Gilda's worst. Blueblood doesn't actually mean anything, he's just a selfish jerk. Trixie and Gilda are deliberately abusive. Gilda's worse than Trixie because Trixie at least limited her abuse to those who challenged her. Gilda deliberately went for an easy and inappropriate mark with Fluttershy. And Trixie wasn't a complete wretch. Even knowing she didn't stand a chance against the Ursa, she stayed and tried. She inappropriately tried to save face in the very end, but when the chips were really down, she showed she had something of a heart. You don't see that with Gilda. I love Dash, but I don't exactly think she has the best judgement of the mane six. I don't think you can say, "If Dash liked her she must have some redeeming qualities." |
| Lancer #358821 11 months ago |
Theory: All it will take is for one brave, unselfish, noble deed done by Blueblood, Gilda, or Trixie to win the entire fandom. |
| Gezora #359015 11 months ago |
Jesus...
I'm can't tell if I'm sorry or glad that I missed out on this. |
| WhiteSocks #359171 11 months ago |
I just spent 45 minutes scrolling through this entire debate with Andrew WK's "I Get Wet" on a loop. (I thought it would be appropriately apocalyptic background music for a Class 5 shitstorm.)
My head is now officially full of fuck, and I think I like it. |
| Pacce #359195 11 months ago |
^357672
Pinkie isn't a deceitful pony. The pranks were Dash's idea and Pinkie didn't know about them. She meant what she said, she thought a party would improve her attitude. |
| Anonymous #359354 11 months ago |
I dare, Old roots, I dare.... |
| Fuzzy_Logic #359838 11 months ago |
why cant i hold all these comments |
| Anonymous #360802 11 months ago |
am i the only one who thought that the best part of the debate so far is the rap battle? |
| TheLarch #361029 11 months ago |
it definitely WAS the best part |
| applebeans #361066 11 months ago |
Gilda is cool and hot and the same time. Blueblood is a major dweeb, end of discussion. |
| applebeans #361080 11 months ago |
also, faved for comments and Gilda pics |
| Heartles #361592 11 months ago |
The guy who had the Gilda/Blueblood plan has a profile.
Expect Fanart. |
| Sound_Mind #361776 11 months ago |
To all you rabid Fluttershy fans who claim that Gilda 'Assaulted' her:
NO. She did not. Gilda bumped into her because Fluttershy wasn't watching where she was going and yelled at her for it. Admittedly, Gilda over-did it by giving her the god damn Lion's Roar, but THAT IS NOT ASSAULT! Assault is causing actual fucking harm to someone! Maybe she was verbally 'assaulted', but Gilda never laid a talon on her the whole Episode. Gilda's worst crimes through his whole episode were these: Theft of an Apple Scaring a little old lady with a harmless prank And disturbing the peace by being somewhat loud She may not being a good person, but she's not an irredeemable bitch. Also, as stated above, Gilda didn't leave Ponyville without losing something. She lost her best friend. The WHOLE REASON Gilda came to Ponyville was to visit Dash for a few days. And instead of leaving when she was supposed to and going home feeling happy after meeting up with her childhood friend, she gets told to screw off. Now then, onto Blueblood. Blueblood I regard the same way I do Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon: Complete Jerkass. Blueblood is a coward and a self-absorbed prick with NO kind of class or a modicum of tact. Every moment after he meets Rarity has proven he is a complete and utter chode who thinks only of himself. From taking Rarity's shawl and using it to walk across a puddle to keep his hooves from getting wet to his snobbish behavior when presented with Applejack's carefully prepared food to using Rarity as a god damn MEAT SHIELD. Say what you will about Gilda. I won't deny she was a bitch. But Celestia help me, she's a thousand times better than Blueblood will EVER be. |
| Anonymous #362360 11 months ago |
Gilda and Blueblood are basically one-dimensional one-off characters in canon.
However, if one takes the time to think about it, one could develop a backstory or context that makes them seem quite likable. The problem noted in the image, and elsewhere I'd expect, is that for Gilda these theories are the norm; while for Blueblood, it's almost as though no one will even bother an attempt. As much as I'd like to believe it's simply a very mild example of sexism, I'm more inclined to believe that it's actually due to deep resentment of the wealthy, and the willingness to immediately believe the worst of a character (or person) who is rich (note how often his name comes up alongside Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon). Unsurprising considering the obvious leftist leanings of the "brony" population and internet fandoms in general, though it hardly excuses this prejudice. While Gilda is given sob-stories to justify her actions (and crimes), Blueblood is dismissed as no less than living garbage offhand (for being slightly rude). It's very disconcerting. The excuses presented really don't work, either. Blueblood, they say, has less potential to be elaborated upon. You're telling me that the royal nephew of a 1000+ year old living deity can't POSSIBLY be made an interesting character? And is it really SO hard to think of an interesting theory as to why he was acting like a jerk that day? Maybe he really liked Rarity, but wasn't able to properly show it due to his amusing narcissism and royal upbringing. Maybe the whole thing was an act, intended to spare Rarity's feelings when he knew it would never work out (a cunning gambit learned from his aunt Celestia, perhaps?). In any case, one hardly hears of these sort of hypotheses, let alone elaboration upon them. And honestly, I found him entertaining. He's a classic fop character; an amusingly out-of-touch noble. He could be hilarious (or, as in some cases I've seen, almost ridiculously tragic - eg. "Blueblood's Redemption"). Gilda was...fine...but that "badbutt" lingo was kinda distracting. So, in summary -Blueblood and Gilda are both technically flat characters -...but fanon elaboration could make them both great -...except that Blueblood is immediately despised due primarily, I'd say, to preexisting prejudices |
| Anonymous #362838 11 months ago |
@362360
I said it before and I'll say it again: there is implied context in common experience. I've known both types of people. In general, I've had better luck with those who act like Gilda than those who act like Blueblood, regardless of sex or wealth. Blueblood is an entertaining character because he's the prototypical snobbish nobility. Gilda is the prototypical what, exactly? Bully? Her faltering dialogue at the end of the episode doesn't support that. That's a lot of why I feel she has potential: she is affected by the events around her. They're not equal characters. A lot of us are saying this because we have known both types. It's not prejudice on sex or wealth. It's basic human experience. |
| Anonymous #363375 11 months ago |
^ confirmation bias =/= "not prejudice"
and generalization =/= context for characterization Let's not forget that most people misinterpreted Rarity's character for this exact reason. And isn't it interesting that the misinterpretation was also given the same circumstances (fancy character = rich douche). Also, Gilda is obviously an example of "the wrong crowd" bad influence types seen on TV shows since the 60s. |
| Anonymous #364068 11 months ago |
I like Gilda, because she is a puzzle, mystery for me, unlike Blueblood.
Why Blueblood acts like that? Because he is aristocrat. Why he is aristocrat? He probably was born as a prince and raised as a prince. In the luxury and refinement. And Blueblood is a pony. We all know that ponies can be... good. But why Gilda acts like that? Because she is jerk. Why she is jerk? No clue. We don't know her social status, don't know her past. She was born aggressive, she had a difficult childhood or she just decided "Let I'll be jerk"? Or maybe her behavior is normal for griffins of her society? |
| Anonymous #365353 11 months ago |
Gilda's a bully, sure, but there's always a reason behind that. Studies have shown that "bullies" and "bullied" are almost never exclusively one or the other: the bullied often start becoming bullies themselves. There was likely some sort of outside influence.
Blueblood, meanwhile, is a spoiled brat. He acts like a douche because he always gets what he wants and throws a bitch fit when he doesn't. In both cases, nobody stepped in. Whatever or whoever was giving Gilda grief did enough damage to lead her to what we see in "Brush-Off," while Blueblood's caretakers could have not spared the rod and, thus, not spoiled the child. So, chick who lashes out at others (including Fluttershy) because of pretty deep self-esteem issues, versus dude who views others like dirt because that's what his upbringing led him to believe. Pick and choose. |
| Anonymous #365445 11 months ago |
-Injures Rarity.
Nope. Wont work. I know you think its really unfair that People "Draco" Gilda, while no one tries the same for Blue Blood. I didnt like her, her annoying lingo and needlessly abrasive personality make me dislike her. I dont like either Blue Blood or Gilda. I would love well written redemption fics though. :P |
| Erroneous #366774 11 months ago |
Gilda's a jerk. It's true. But I think the reason that people latch on to Gilda is because of her clinging to Dash. It seems odd for her kind of character and it makes you think that there is more going on than just a jerkass. Was Dash the only friend she had? The story certainly makes it seem that way. If thats the case then how does losing her at the end of the episode make her feel? There's a lot going on with Gilda.
Whats going on with Blueblood? He's rich, self-centered and he looks down at commoners. Why? Because he was raised that way... Certainly not getting interested in his backstory. Also Gilda has a very large chance of returning considering the fact that she plays a huge part in Dash's history, and her actions will probably be explained in a flashback or something. |
| Anonymous #373384 11 months ago |
Blueblood's a douche... but nopony seems to know that about him.
Rarity was GUSHING about meeting him; either no newspapers EVER noticed his douchiness, or there are enough non-douchie things to him to have ponies love him from afar. And to all who say Tiara and Spoon don't have writers give them a tragic backstory: That's simply not true. I've seen at least three fics that did. I've read only one with Blueblood, so perhaps it does have something to do with gender. |
| Anonymous #383654 11 months ago |
Just watched "The Best Night Ever" for the first time. I really don't understand the hate for Blueblood. He just seems hilariously dense and sheltered. To me, he comes off as somebody who's normally travelling around with an entourage of servants who try their best to make his life comfortable. I like to think he didn't understand why Rarity exploded at him and asked a trusted servant of his why this was, causing an epiphany and changing him for the better. |
| Deceptive_Trixter #383668 11 months ago |
As much as I like making fun of Blueblood he just seems like your typical sheltered prince who has everything given to him. Give him a servant who can teach him the way of peasants and a few days without a shiny castle and there might be a change not much but there will be. |
| Anonymous #397210 11 months ago |
After reading all of this, in conclusion: The only reason people like Gilda was because she was childhood friends with Rainbow Dash, which leaves questions like was she always this way or did she became this way after Rainbow and Gilda left each other? For Princeblood on the other hand, we came to hate him in the same way that Rarity comes to hate him.
Huah, I guess it really comes down to how the mane cast treated them. Gilda had history with Rainbow and liked her up until the end. Blueblood was never liked by Rarity or rather, she did like him at first but was eventually shown that she wasn't enjoying his company during the whole ball and she kept "hoping" that he'll redeem himself to her, but he never did. Because of that since she doesn't like him most people don't as well. Then here comes Fuzzy Logic's question about this whole thing anyway. Gilda was supposed to be one of those one-shot characters that was totally obsessive with one of main characters and does everything in her power to the main character's friends away from them in their "bonding time." I've seen that kind of character in iCarly (my brother watches that while I played my handheld) and ohter old shows, but I never seen any of those kind characters being liked as much as Gilda in any other show ever. Fuzzy's questions is more like "Why start now" and "Why her" when her actions are much more worse than Blueblood, he's only a snobbish rich idiot who probably knows nothing about being generous and takes Rarity's for granted (and probably had the wrong idea that she'll do anything for him instead of showing him that he should do those things). In fact I don't I remember Rarity having an honest conversation with him other than their arguement on who should leave a cloth on the puddle and who should open the door. Like one of the commenters above me, Blueblood probably didn't why Rarity was mad at him in the first place and thinking "Why is she mad, shouldn't that be normal?" If anything as far as fanart of him goes I don't really see that much of him other than him staying in character (much like Spike most of the time) and being on the receiving end of getting brutalized or being "MUURRDERED." While Gilda on the other hand gets less of either of that between the two and she's actually more well or at least is evil (Hmm I think on the Infamous scale I think she'll be Thug) since she stole and scared two ponies who doesn't deserve it. So why is it that she has more sympathy than Blueblood? I guess it's because somewhere along the way of her episode that Gilda SHOWED that she HONESTLY cared about Rainbow Dash unlike Pince Blueblood who was actually more interested in himself and cared for no one, I mean pony, else. I think that's one of the biggest reasons why she was more received than Blueblood despite having evil traits. So in other words there are two (and maybe more) main reasons why some people like Gilda more than Prince Blueblood: 1."Gilda had history with Rainbow Dash and RD liked her back while Prince Blueblood did not have any history and Rarity doesn't like him." 2."Gilda cares for Rainbow Dash and Prince Blueblood only cared about himself." That's pretty much it I suppose. |
| Anonymous #397232 11 months ago |
#397210: I hate my typos. Fixed parts
"..and ohter old shows" > "...and other shows" "...Blueblood probably didn't why Rarity was mad at him in the first place..." > "... Blueblood probably didn't UNDERSTAND why Rarity was mad at him in the first place..." "MUURRDERED." > That's not a typo I was actually mimicing Yahtzee. |
| Anonymous #407210 11 months ago |
say what you want, i love blueblood. he was hilarious. |
| BronyBri #437266 10 months ago |
I stopped giving a shit about Fuzzy Logic's opinion when she uttered the phrase "there's such thing as a wrong opinion". -_- I suppose it's okay for me to say FlutterDash and RainbowPie as good ships are wrong opinions then.
Gilda = More interesting. BlueBlood = Not as interesting. Personality but not an interesting one to most fans. Other than that, everyone else has said what I would've wanted to. They're both jerks, people just like Gilda more. I personally like her BECAUSE she was a bitch to Fluttershy. SOMEONE needs to be. Besides Rainbow Dash. Fluttershy needs to toughen up a little. -_- |
| Isshiki_Kotonashi #451411 10 months ago |
Amazing, I actually tl;dr this thread
Shitstorm indeed My opinion is there's not enough information and never will be until we see their thoughts and/or past Until then I will say tentatively that they are both douches but that is only my opinion until I see some more evidence to either case. |
| Isshiki_Kotonashi #451443 10 months ago |
Oh god that rapoff
Best thing I've seen in a while |
| Anonymous #520574 9 months ago |
BronyBri, if someone came up to you and said that they held the opinion that the sun was purple, would you not consider that wrong?
Also I read through this whole thread, minus the rap battle, and good lord it took me most of the night. |
| Anonymous #520690 9 months ago |
I feel sympathetic to Gilda mainly because she lost her friendship with Rainbow Dash over a misunderstanding that anyone could have made.
And then when she lashes out after being backed into a corner by her best friend, she gets labeled as a "false friend." Even if true, that's a horrible thing to say to a person, especially over a minor spat. I also feel sympathetic to her because her tough-girl persona is at odds with the super sensitive sensibilities of the ponies. Even if Gilda were being a jerk in a playful, non-malicious way, the ponies would probably still find fault in it. This is never actually shown in the show, but that's just how I suspect a relationship between Gilda and the ponies would pan out. |