
| DoctorWhooves #522889 9 months ago |
NICE MY LITTLE BRONY WATERMARK, THERE |
| Anonymous #522892 9 months ago |
The ultimate response to the "Celestia is a tyrant" crowd. |
| HeinousActsZX #522898 9 months ago |
Why does everypony hate my little brony so much? What is it anyway? |
| Lance #522903 9 months ago |
Nice watermark, I concur with the Doctor |
| Fuzzy_Logic #522932 9 months ago |
#522898
A site that takes pictures probably already uploaded here, puts a watermark on them, doesn't source, doesn't credit. And then dumb people upload stuff from there, with watermark, to here, even if it's already been uploaded here. |
| Anonymous #522933 9 months ago |
^^ Socrates and Plato's dream society was a tyranny, you goofus.
They believed an enlightened, benevolent dictator was the most preferable organization system because they existed prior to notions about individual worth, the value of the human soul, the fundamental equality of all people, and the idea of inalienable rights. They're right that the system in question is the most moral, well-operating, and just *organization*, but is not necessarily the best for actual people rather than idealized citizens, especially since it requires citizens to bend to what it requires rather than bending to the desires and requirements of the citizens. |
| Anonymous #522940 9 months ago |
Clever. So true! |
| Saufsoldat #523005 9 months ago |
^^ The only valid criticism of a benevolent dictatorship is the problem of actually making sure that he's benevolent.
The idea that the desires of some people are more important than what's best for the whole of society is ludicrous. |
| RyuSpike #523007 9 months ago |
#522933
So basically, it takes a giant magical pony in order for their dream society to exist? I wonder what those two would have to say if they were alive today? |
| Steel_Thunder #523037 9 months ago |
Celestia and Luna run the best society man has ever seen. Celestia is just the face of it. Anon 522933, I agree with Saufsoldat. The needs of the many will ALWAYS outweigh the needs of a few. Everyone is guaranteed free top of the line healthcare, education, and saftey and security. Plus everyone gets a job based on what they most love and excel at. there are no flaws in this system. Quick! sacrifice a bunch of humans to summon Celestia and Luna to our world! then they shall turn it into equestia and us into ponies! |
| Turin_Aramaia #523068 9 months ago |
Is that Socrates getting ready to drink his hemlock cocktail? (Condemned to death for his ideas.) |
| Steel_Thunder #523071 9 months ago |
yeah |
| Ichijoe #523086 9 months ago |
I'M AM AN ANTI-CHRIST
I'M AM AN ANARCHIST, DON'T KNOW WHAT I WANT BUT, KNOW WHERE TO GET IT I WANNA DESTROY THE PASSER BY 'COS I WANNNA BEEEEe ANARCHY HO DOG GO ANARCHY FOR EQUESTRIA IT'S COMING SOMETIME AND MAYBE I GIVE A WRONG TIME STOP A TRAFFIC LINE YOUR FUTURE DREAM IS A SHOPPING SCHEME CAUSE I WANNA BEEEe ANARCHY!! IN CANTERLOT |
| Steel_Thunder #523093 9 months ago |
^14 years old |
| CommandoDude #523175 9 months ago |
The problem with the philosopher king is that you have to keep finding new ones. If you live forever, that's a lot of wisdom to acquire... |
| Anonymous #523194 9 months ago |
The definition of "dictator" and "tyrant" was a bit different back then. |
| Anonymous #523257 9 months ago |
Well, a dictator is any absolute monarch who didn't inherit the throne from a ruling line, so Celestia is EXACTLY not a dictator. And a tyrant is a leader of any kind who took power illegally. So she's probably not that either.
Than again, the s2 pilot implied the sisters wrested control from Discord... Unless he had himself wrested control from their parents or something (totally feasible, tbh) then that would have marked the establishment of the alicorn line, technically making Luna and Celestia simultaneously tyrants AND dictators. (Even when the ruler is a villain, it's fair to call any coup illegal according to the reigning laws.) |
| Anonymous #523327 9 months ago |
Socrates and Plato were bronies. We win. |
| Ichijoe #523333 9 months ago |
DOWN WITH CELLE AND LUNA!!
LIBERTE, EGALITE, FRATERNITE!! |
| Anonymous #523391 9 months ago |
@257
"... inherit the throne from a ruling line..." Ehm, well she and her sister beat up Discord and took his throne. And since they are immortal, they won't give up power anytime soon, they could go on like this forever. In fact they could go on forever. And by your logic, the first in a dynasty of monarchs has to be an ursurping dictator. Which I think is true. In fact, their governing form is unknown to us, since they are ruled by immortal gods. How do you call it? It's not a monarchy, since it lacks the hereditary aspect. |
| Anonymous #523435 9 months ago |
lacks the hereditary aspect = dictatorship. It's technically a value-neutral term. It just carries a lot of baggage, connotation-wise. |
| nemryn #523522 9 months ago |
^^ It's a theocratic duarchy. |
| The_Walhi_Llama #523643 9 months ago |
^ That suggests a Religious based system. As far as we know, ponies don't have a religion. |
| Anonymous #523703 9 months ago |
Ponies don't need a religion, because they have an actual god as their ruler. |
| Anonymous #523735 9 months ago |
@Saufsoldat
It's not ludicrous in the slightest as "the good of society" has been used repeatedly to excuse atrocities. Ask poor Russians or Chinese farmers from the 30s and 50s if the mad rush by there autocratic rulers to industrialize at the cost of MILLIONS of lives was worth it. Sure the people that LIVED gained higher standards of living and the nations became more powerful, and think all it cost was untold scores of slow horrible deaths via starvation... A purely "whatever is best for the majority" approach to ethics is a path straight to hell as it can be used to rationalize even the worst injustices so long as it's "for the greater good" there is a DAMN good reason such a a system is NOT widely accepted at all. The moment a society starts using the "if it's good for society it's good period" line of reasoning it's taken the first steps on the road to tyranny. It's true that some tiny fraction of a population can't be allowed to derail any decision making, but it's an extremely delicate balance between ignoring small minorities when you must and just oppressing dissenters into submission and obliterating peoples rights "for the greater good". |
| nemryn #523765 9 months ago |
^ The thing is, stuff like that isn't actually good for the society. |
| Anonymous #523935 9 months ago |
You folks might want to pick up a copy of "An Introduction to the Order" by Anthony C Sutton before you start defending Princess Celestia's Bullshit.
Classic Hegelian Dialectics. Now that ponies are too sophisticated to believe that horseshit about her moving the sun around she needed to come up with a new way to control the populace. Hence, that little "disagreement" with her sister.. |
| RealityCheck #524201 9 months ago |
523735: Industrialization had less to do with it than the instigation of Communism.
523935: Uh, it was pretty factually proven that Celestia and Luna control the sun and moon when Luna, as Nightmare Moon, <I>stopped the sun from rising right in the first episode.</i> People read way too much into Cutie Marks. Canon: they're a symbol for what makes an individual pony special. Not for what the state should make them do or to indicate what type of cog they are in the machine. |
| Ichijoe #524713 9 months ago |
LIBERTE, EGALITE, FRATERNITE!!
VIVE LA REVOLUTION!! KILL EVERY LAST ONE OF THOSE POMPOUS, ARROGANT BOURGEOISIE ALICORN BASTARDS! VIVE LA REVOLUTION!! |
| Anonymous #524724 9 months ago |
^There's only like 2 left and one of them raises the sun.
Can't we just keep them in a gulag-camp for forced labour? |
| Anonymous #524735 9 months ago |
^#523735
The "autocratic" rulers you mention though did govern better than the previous monarchs, from a populist's perspective. Communists did not make the majority poorer as our media presents it. They just forced the outstanding minorities closer to the average living standarts. |
| ScionTheKitsune #524906 9 months ago |
Ichijoe's Shift or Capslock button must be broken... or Steel_Thunder could be right in saying he's 14yrs old.
That said, Ponies are like the '23 enigma' when your minds wants it, you can find a relation to ponies anywhere. This pic (and mature intellectual comments) made my day. |
| Steel_Thunder #524919 9 months ago |
and this is why yall zebras are a bunch of whorses and foals. Getting rilled up over a little girls cartoon? making up political things and cock gobling over it? You guys made my day. Oh and ItchyJoe, I suggest seeing a dermatologist, and buying a new key-board. |
| Anonymous #772494 7 months ago |
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