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zralf
#486846
10 months ago
so , if discord gets nyx .. will she stop being the element of mary sue?
Anonymous
#486850
10 months ago
First Twilight would need to stop being a Mary sue
Anonymous
#486859
10 months ago
@zralf

I dislike Nyxhate (in its belligerent form, that is), but that still made me LOL.
Ezhik
#486882
10 months ago
Hi Nyx!
Anonymous
#486897
10 months ago
I mast say this!
NYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYX!!!!!!!!
Epicplatypus
#486911
10 months ago
Nb4 a mass of assholes who don't know how to block tags!
Imdumb
#486967
10 months ago
I like Nyx.
Anonymous
#487030
10 months ago
НИИИИИИИИИИИИИИИИИИИИИИИИИИИКС!!!
WildHeart
#487042
10 months ago
Stop that.

Stop being so bloody cute.
Anonymous
#487044
10 months ago
Seriously i dont understand the Nyx-hate.
Naruto2-point0
#487155
10 months ago
Shes so cute.
Hex-Master
#487242
10 months ago
Epicplatypus,

You know, I was gonna leave well-enough alone, but since you said THAT, I guess I'll have to do my thing.

Blah-blah-blah, terrible writing, blah-blah-blah, Mary Sue syndrome, blah-blah-blah, angst-tastic, blah-blah-blah, ending negates the entire story.

Cave Johnson, we're done here.
Anonymous
#487287
10 months ago
Twilight's a mary sue?
Xuncu
#487802
10 months ago
Nix's Trolling Procedure:
Step 1: Stand there.
Step 2: Shitstorm.
Anonymous
#488390
10 months ago
#487287

It's an easy argument.

Twilight is a overly powerful unicorn (Maybe strongest Celestia has ever seen), she has a mysterious superpower locked up inside her (Elements O' H), she's overly smart, all of her current friends threw themselves at her to be her friend, she has a baby dragon as a pet/assistant, and she's a very special friend to their ruler.
WesternBirds
#488411
10 months ago
^ Yeah, she would fit into a lot of people's qualifications of Mary Sue (The whole exam scene in the flashback episode would've had people shouting Mary Sue from the rooftops if it was a fanfic I guarantee you). But there are a lot of examples of successful published characters fitting the Mary Sue mold (ironically enough Captain Kirk whose franchise was the origin of the Mary Sue term himself could qualify as a Mary Sue.) so I wouldn't put too much stock into it.
Anonymous
#489431
10 months ago
:/ funny thing is nearly all of the most iconic or popular characters from books, movies, videogames, etc. end up being mary sues if you run the numbers on it.
Anonymous
#489488
10 months ago
^^^ True but Twilight is written well enough to balance out those traits, like that fact that she has little to none socal skills often making her do stupid things (the whole shouting out "yes" and jumping around in public) and magic isn't always to answer to the problem (often making things worst)

That's why Past Sins rube people the wrong way, if you're not a unicorn you're useless (Pinkie Pie doesn't count) , the main villain was an unicorn, and magic (not the friendship kind) is always solves everything, even the EoH of Magic is just magic and only an Unicorn can use is rather than Friendship (the sub-title of the show is Friendship is Magic, I mean how stupid are you for not getting that).
RealityCheck
#508611
10 months ago
1)don't see where you're getting "non unicorns are useless" from the story.

2)the EoH failed precisely BECAUSE they thought any magic-talent unicorn could fit in Twilight's place. that WAS the point, you know.

3)"Angst-tastic?" It's the story of a little filly who finds out she's the reincarnation of the pony equivalent of DARTH VADER. YYyyeah, I think there might be a little justifiable grief and tears in the offing, there.

5)"Ending negates the story?"The second-biggest hat the franchise wears besides friendship is FORGIVENESS. It would have been grossly out of character for the mane 6 and the princesses to NOT forgive Nyx... especially after Nyx nearly kills herself protecting Ponyville from rampaging monsters.

And although its an ending you can see coming for miles, it's really the only outcome that fit.... and For all that it's a happy ending (oh, beat the breast and tear the emo hair, NOT THAT!) it's made clear that not everything is sunshine and cupcakes from now on... it ends with many ponies still fearful and mistrusting of Nyx, and the acknowledgement that this is something she is going to have to deal with for a long time to come.

That's why, for every reader out there hating on it, there are a dozen others with whom it resonates.... it's a story about the mistakes we all have in our pasts-- some our own fault, some we inherit through no fault of our own-- and how easily we can be fooled into thinking those mistakes seal our fate, that our past is our destiny. That even if we can't change our past, we can change where the past leads.

The reason it rubs the naysayers the wrong way is
1)It's wildly popular 2)they're not.
Anonymous
#1038122
4 months ago
Fuck Nyx