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StreakTheFox
#503771
10 months ago
haha, alfalfa monster
Jackarunda
#503780
10 months ago
Anonymous
#503790
10 months ago
GOD DAMN IT FUCKING OCS.
And the worst kind, the fucking mary sue bullshit kind.
Pwneh
#503832
10 months ago
Just let the SWEET rage begins... Priceless.
Anonymous
#503861
10 months ago
For one part I hate mary sue OCs, they are soo dumb.
But! I love it when they kick up shitstorms!
So I say, RAGE, RAGE, RAAAAAGEEEE, my little bronies!
Kein
#503877
10 months ago
> oc

No, just... no.
Pwneh
#503880
10 months ago
:iconflutterageplz: Oh... :D
mooponi
#503881
10 months ago
> #503780
Anonymous
#503886
10 months ago
Ooooooooh, yeah. It's Fernando time.
kassarc16
#503887
10 months ago
What "OC" really stands for: Other (Peoples) Characters. That's why so many parasprites hate them; they didn't create them.
Pwneh
#503898
10 months ago
@kassarc16

Personally, I love to see good pictures, enjoy some cool storylines and taste new styles lookin at awesome artists makin such a lovable work with my favorite characters. I dont mind if they or their relatives use "my waifus" in a creation. Just sit and make a good criticism of the fine piece of art, my little bronies. Your waifus are safe and still virgins for you when you go to encounter them in the phantasy land of dreaming. :D LOL sowy my english sucks, plz sum grammar nazis here.
Anonymous
#503905
10 months ago
I'm confused, all I see is some pony having a friendly conversation with Luna. That one guy was right, as soon as a fan character even so much as to look at any of the Canon character they'll get so much hate.
Anonymous
#503910
10 months ago
ITT, people pulling a tantrum over a OC for a story.
Anonymous
#503911
10 months ago
@Kassarc16
No people hate OC's cause they generally add them into the plot of the actual show, or pair them up with some character from the main cast which people don't approve of.

Oh, and the fact most OC's always have some dumb special thing about them or colors that're usually common in most Mary-sue OC's like this comic for example.
Pwneh
#503924
10 months ago
@anon 911

So, we are not seeing this OC (or the entire storyline at this comic) adding himself into the plot of the actual show, or pairing with somepony from the main cast. And i can't see him using shiny useless things or trying to conquer the world. then this OC is OK?
Anonymous
#503957
10 months ago
@Pwneh
So using an OC in a story about something that wasn't explained in the show?

Oh noes... shock horror.
kassarc16
#503976
10 months ago
I do agree that ridiculous OCs (if not designed for that purpose) are bad; weird designs or colors kill the appeal right off the bat. Alicorns, however, are given no chance, instant hatred because of other people's preconceived notions.

I really think the mistake most creators make are sharing them with the community. It only ends up with arguments and harsh criticism about every little detail; show me one OC that is actually liked by the majority of people.

And to bring up the whole "BGCs are OK" argument... As soon as their personality is changed beyond the bounds of the established universe, they become no more than OCs.
Anonymous
#503985
10 months ago
>show me one OC that is actually liked by the majority of people.

LittlePip.

Bob

The problem isn't that most OC's are bad. The problem is a vocal group that are so vehemently opposed to ANY OC, regardless of use or character.
Anonymous
#503995
10 months ago
Also

>"BGCs are OK" argument... As soon as their personality is changed beyond the bounds of the established universe

There IS no established universe personality for BGC. EVERYTHING about them is made up. Ditzy is completely and utterly a OC in her portrayal. Berry Pinch, Octavia, Lyra. Hell, even Vinyl's blood red eyes are all OC.
Anonymous
#504032
10 months ago
The important - essential - thing when doing anything with a preestablished setting is that you do not contradict what has been preestablished therein.

Most of the classic problems with OCs can be traced back to violations of this precept.

Why are alicorns frowned upon? Because they are inherently important to the setting as attested. Luna and Celestia are the two Princesses. To add more alicorns, therefore, bends the setting by adding a character to the royal family - an unlikely position of importance - and as such requires a darn good narrative reason to avoid being hubris.

"Weird designs or colors" likewise break the established setting rules for "how a pony should look."

This even extends into the classical error of adding an otherwise justified OC and suddenly having them involved with the main cast in ways that you wouldn't expect the main cast to act. This is a violation of the characters as attested, for the sake of putting a new character in the middle of the action. It's "stealing heat", as the wrestlemans say, and makes everyone in the story look bad.

In short: there's nothing wrong with OCs. But! They need to follow the rules of the setting! And over the years, there's been so many who haven't that it's reflected badly on the concept of OCs itself - it becomes easier to just not risk it.
RealityCheck
#504113
10 months ago
Go ahead, Anon. your sweet sweet hatred only makes us stronger.
Anonymous
#504120
10 months ago
@RealityCheck
So which anon are you referring too? *is confused*
Anonymous
#504161
10 months ago
What do you mean "which anon"? Obviously I'm arguing with Myself.
Anonymous
#504169
10 months ago
Still as mary sue goes he does not fare that bad. He is a character needed only to push the story. Plus he is not exactly an Alicorn, as far as It look, seem more an ascended unicorn. But I could be wrong. On bright side I like the fact he address to Discord as the primary cause of Luna's corruption(an early attmept to escape using Luna's body as vessel?)
santan
#504199
10 months ago
get over yourselves
Silversoul666
#504350
10 months ago
@4032: Over the years? Wich years?

And, am I seeing things, or is there less OC hate around today?

Personally, I think that OC on the pic is too powerfull, being the one who helped Nightmare Moon out of her confinement.
Still, could be pure envy, and I will admit the story is good.
kassarc16
#504433
10 months ago
#503995
My point isn't that there is conflicting evidence, just that some accepted BGCs have gone to a level wholly inappropriate for the show.

#504032
What I get from yours and others comments, is that OCs are bad when they break unwritten, highly subjective rules.
Pwneh
#504744
10 months ago
Well, lets gonna clarify some points here.

The OC is not a powerful semi god who have the power to rule the universe and lead a take over the established order. He is not an alicorn, its more like a "glorified unicorn" :P

The royal family, including the only two known members can have friends, they deserve that right, whats supposed to be wrong with that, all i can see as sum anon said is "a friendly chat between a Canon and a FanChar" they are not having ponies. :P

The comic is using arguments that born from the show and uses the plot-holes, like WTF is doing Luna while the entire season 1 and 2 ep of the season 2 are running. We see here a story and not a dumb OC who is a self insert trying to become a relevant part in the actual show events.

And finally, this chara is not planned as a OMGWTFLOOKATTHISHERO, au contraire, why Celestia disapproves him? just let the third page explain that.
Anonymous
#504746
10 months ago
And then I closed this tab.
zralf
#505034
10 months ago
*scroll scroll* oc? *scroll scroll*
Nemns
#505765
10 months ago
*DeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEP BREATH* . . .
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH~!
T^T

Shut the fuck up and stop berating people for being creative just cause it doesn't fit in with your prissy little cartoon pony standards...
Anonymous
#506058
10 months ago
#504744, "plot-holes" takes on a whole different meaning here :P
Lancer
#507383
10 months ago
So, the OC is an ex-guard pony who Luna knew... That's not too bad, but he makes the stars shine and fulfilled a prophecy, and earned the hate of Celestia... And can sprout wings.
That's just a tad over the top.
Have you noticed how few OCs are rock farmers? Everybody wants to be the mane attraction.
Anonymous
#507820
10 months ago
Lancer, just to clear, Twilight Sparkle had demonstrated that Unicorns know spells to make wing appears, and this does not absolutely classify them as powerfull as Alicorns. Remain to be seen, instead, how he come to be that powerfull(albeit he just make star shines, not actually move them) and long lived.
Anonymous
#507825
10 months ago
Also, the reaons many tend to be Unicorns is that only unicorns can cast actual magic, and only few can cast more than their "one trick"(unicorns are a lot like Mutants in Marvel Universe in this sense).
Earth Ponies are...well...hmm..more physical and unassuming in their magic(they really got the shortest magical stick so far...)
Anonymous
#507830
10 months ago
Also notice the other two guard, their names, and their assignments....Is possible that we got some ties to two fo the most important(to us) secondary ponies(I hope we got somethign about TRRRRIIIXXIIIEEEEEEE- anon howling her name in the night, under the rain-)
Pwneh
#508082
10 months ago
Tru Tru. Rarity showed us her unicorn hability levitating her dressing mannequins while she sang "the art of the dress" so why and unicorn with enough magical strengh would not be able to levitate "himself" Indeed, unicorns have the sense of the magic and are the ones who can cast magic, in different degrees of power, thats why Celestia take care of Twilight because she is very powerful and needs be orientated. The pegasi are weak, compared to the earth ponies and unicorns, remember how easy was to AJ to grab RD by her tail using her mouth. so earth ponies are the "work ponies"

The OC uses the nickname "alfalfa monster" and its a reference to the youth of the princess and it is very privilegiated info, bue, come on, this is just the second issue according the title, lets see the incoming comics.
Silversoul666
#509552
10 months ago
Just noticed now.
If that unicorn is an ex-guard from before Luna was trapped, then he is over 1000 years of age?
Pwneh
#509887
10 months ago
@Silversoul666

Congratulations :D haha

Thats right, you found one of the several references and coherence mistakes here.

Here is the entire list:

The OC uses a nickname used by Luna to call Celestia when the both were young, a fanon fact of course, but that points to a close relationship with the royal family (and suggest that the OC knows the princess from... a lot of time)

-They talk about the stars alignment, and how long it took (1000 years) and she blames him for the delay.

-The "General" has both, wings and horn, so WTF? but the frame is a flashback from a lot of years ago, so... (Well, to say the truth was an error in the edition LOL) Also the names of the other soldiers sounds really familiar.

-We can see Celestia... well not happy with that pony.

There is a lot of story and work trying to futfill just the correct facts of the show using the lines that the show leave empty, just let us go ahead with the project :P
Furboz
#512581
10 months ago
And Then They Ate Pie!!