
| PynkyPy #109384 1 year ago |
Celestia really doesn't. As of a real Goddess! |
| TBTabby #109400 1 year ago |
She's the most extreme case of Ron the Death Eater I've ever seen.
And as someone who's read Greek myths, I can tell you that goddesses have more than their fair share of flaws. |
| Anonymous #109403 1 year ago |
Most of the Trollestia stuff was pretty tongue-in-cheek, I thought. |
| Anonymous #109409 1 year ago |
That's how fans work, Celestia. |
| Anonymous #109422 1 year ago |
She's handled the Maleficent-level threat of Nightmare Moon twice without catastrophic collateral damage, kept Equestria safe for a thousand years even though the royal god-power was cut in half and managed to create a tolerant and loving society for her little ponies.
This despite the threat of dragons, Ursa Majors, parasprite swarms and Celestia herself only knows what other threats are out there. Even those of us who rail against the solar tyrant and hoist the banner of the New Lunar Republic have to give Celestia her due. But she does troll her subjects. That's beyond dispute as of the Grand Galloping Gala. |
| Anonymous #109543 1 year ago |
^ you forgot being able to do her sisters super special talent, for a thousand years without any problem |
| Anonymous #109715 1 year ago |
^ It's complicated. The First Nightmare Moon Revolt started when Luna refused to end the night. Luna's defiance prevented Celestia from raising the sun. This suggests that Luna was more powerful than Celestia. This is supported by Celestia's absence (curbstomped? banished to the sun?) during the Second Nightmare Moon Revolt and the use of the Elements of Harmony instead of her own God-Princess powers to banish Luna at the end of NMR1.
The ponies of Equestria may have never seen a True Night, ushered in by Luna's magic. For a thousand years they have known only a pale imitation, simply a sky without a sun. |
| PynkyPy #109731 1 year ago |
^Also be aware that Luna was possessed by something evil. That alone boosted her power. No that it is gone, her powers are normal again, equal to Celestia or less. |
| Anonymous #109794 1 year ago |
^ I'm not convinced that Luna was possessed by anything. Her actions are explainable by the same pony derangement syndrome that all of the mane cast have fallen to. Her different form as Nightmare Moon can be explained as an extreme case of the same physical changes we saw when Pinky Pie reverted to Pinkamena in "Party of One" when she thought she was abandoned. |
| Anonymous #110113 1 year ago |
^ you mean the theory that not doing their "cutie mark thing" causes ponies to derange? Well, she did stop controlling the moon. |
| Anonymous #110127 1 year ago |
^ Twas stated that she got deranged BEFORE getting sent to the moon.
She went insane because noone liked her night and moon... so she acted in flutterrage fashion and decided to make them like it. |
| Aponymousse #110350 1 year ago |
Yeah, her bitterness transformed her into NM, but Celestia did take over Luna's role for the responsibility of the moon and so forth, but I guess that doesn't mean she did as good as a job as Luna did.
I also love the assumption that Celestia has the ability to banish anyone to the moon herself, when it's actually that she used the Elements of Harmony to do it. Meaning if she would want to banish anything to the moon now, she would most likely have to consult the mane cast to do so. Unless she learned how to do without them, but I would think she wouldn't have the time, with the running of the kingdom and making sure the sun (and moon, pre-Nightmare-Moon-returning) are on schedule, and such. |
| Anonymous #110434 1 year ago |
@Anon #110113- Pony derangement syndrome is indisputable. It's link to cutie marks is speculative in my opinion. Rarity's OCD, Twilight's brain-freezes and Rainbow's near-catatonic twitching only match up if you really stretch things.
@Aponymousse "She might banish you from Equestria, or throw you in a dungeon. Or banish you and then throw you in a dungeon in the place that she banishes you to!" Twilight Sparkle (the beloved student of Celestia) from A Bird In the Hoof. Questioning the limits of Celestia's powers? That's a banishing. Wondering if her banishment powers extend to the moon? That's a banishing. Paddling the school canoe? You'd think that would be a paddling, but it is also a banishing. |
| Caramel #110436 1 year ago |
@Apony: Celestia has no "Flaws" So the fans "Gave" her some, by turning her into a troll, and a banishment happy dictator/tyrant {Even though we've only seen her pull small practical jokes on people here and there, and she seems to have the patience of a saint} |
| Aponymousse #110467 1 year ago |
@#110434
Nowhere in there does it say she will banish you to the moon. She will just banish you from Equestria, which means there's a possibility you'd be roaming in dragon or griffon territory, or banished in a dungeon in dragon or griffon territory. Or some other place that is not Equestria. @Caramel I am well aware of that, since the trolling and banishing are based off of her action(s) in the show, and the fans interpretations of those can be quite amusing at times. But that doesn't make the fact that she used the Elements of Harmony to banish NM to the moon go away. In fact, if you take that into consideration, and also the fact that she couldn't get NM to budge so that she can raise the sun, and it was the Elements of Harmony that banished NM, it would mean that Elements of Harmony>NM>Celestia. The only thing Celestia has over the EoH is her royalty, which I can imagine would be very persuasive up to the point where the EoH would start questioning her actions and realize their own true power. Don't get me wrong, I am a strong supporter of The Solar Empire, it's just those few things did bug me a lil. |
| Anonymous #112676 1 year ago |
hey anon #109794. if lauren says luna became NMM due to an evil entity. thats canon. Im sorry nut her word is word of god keep your fanon in fanfics.
Celestia has no flaws and ist a ban-happy tyrant. its just humans cant stand perfect things because they remind them of their own imperfection so they seek to corrupt it to put it at their level or lower and feel better with themselves. I hear spring is beautiful up in the Mare Tranquillitatis! enjoy the view! |
| Ponita #203053 1 year ago |
^Also, perfection is freaking boring. |
| Anonymous #258149 1 year ago |
Well she's never been on camera long enough to find any flaws. |
| Anonymous #277913 1 year ago |
Mary-Sues aren't well liked. Also the Age of Monarchy is long over. |
| Sparklehooves #340896 11 months ago |
tl;dr |
| Unformed8 #395557 11 months ago |
Yes well, better that celestia is considered the tyrant, rather than luna.
Celestia banishes to the moon, so I would guess Luna would banish to the sun... |
| Anonymous #395568 11 months ago |
I like Celestia because of her invented flaws... oh hey
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| Anonymous #533481 9 months ago |
I actually blame Discord for all of Celestia and Luna's pain. I mean think about it... would it not make sense that he would have tried turning the sisters against each other like he did the six? Yet it would seem they held together and we able to defeat him.
Yet, perhaps he was able to plant seeds of doubt and uncertainty in Luna's heart... causing her to see her loving sister in a different like. These seeds could have then grown, causing her to see things in a more negitive light. Causing her to think no one liked her or loved her. That her sister did love her and that everypony only loved her. This could have easily lead to her feelings of loneliness and jealously, causing Luna to perhaps create 'Moony', an imaginary friend as well as look for a means of becoming stronger then her sister. Which could the gotten Luna to do that which caused her to lose herself had have 'Moony' take over. Celestia could have not seen this change for a number of reason. Perhaps her duties as princess we taking up all her time, perhaps Luna start bugging Celestia for more attention... perhaps, as is common when one is depressed... Luna distanced herself from Celestia. Luna hide her feelings and pretended nothing was wrong. You would be suprised at just how many loving families did not realize something was wrong with a member of then famliy until it was to late. In this case Celestia did not realize her sisters 'fall' until see was already too late, thus forcing Celestia into a corner and needing to make a choice. Let this... force that controlled her sister destroy Equestria or find a way to defeat her. Now it is clearly shown that alone, Celestia was not strong enough to fight Nightmare Moon. So Celestia went fr the most powerful for known in Equestria... the Elements of Harmony. Yet, as has been shown, the Elements of Harmony only work when harmony and friendships is strong. Yet Celestia only friend, her beloved sister Luna, was no more. Somehow it would seem Celestia forced or was able to use the Elements. Yet it seemed she was unable to uses them full. It showed that she only wore the crown, the Element of Magic, and not the others. My thoughts are is that she did not have the means to free her sister from the darkness that controlled her. Instead the Elements banished Luna for 1000 years on the Moon. It would make since that this was not what Celestia wanted to happen. Imagine, all these years Celestia living with this guilt, living with the loneliness of losing her only friend and the only one that could understand her. Is Celestia perfect... no, yet she does the best she can and thinks of others before herself. For 1000 years Celestia ruled Equestria all by herself, watching all those she grew close to live and died. Undertsnading that by her choices a pony could be hurt or suffer... that is a heavy burden indeed. Yet Celestia does so, not only that but she does it with a calm and even playfulness. Hiding from all the pain she most likely held inside herself, not even Twilight truly understanding her mentor. |
| Anonymous #590034 9 months ago |
Sister's jealous? Best banish her to the moon!
Or do you want me to believe that Celestia wasn't powerful enough to talk things over properly and that the best solution for her LITTLE SISTER was a few thousand years away from civilisation? |
| Anonymous #590042 9 months ago |
^ Sorry, one thousand years.
A few thousand would be excessive. |