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Gittonsxv
#532600
9 months ago
dawww thats lovely
MaroonBunyip
#532602
9 months ago
Jackarunda
#532617
9 months ago
it makes me so happy
marioandsonic
#532650
9 months ago
d'awwwwwwwwwwwww
Anonymous
#533483
9 months ago
I actually blame Discord for all of Celestia and Luna's pain. I mean think about it... would it not make sense that he would have tried turning the sisters against each other like he did the six? Yet it would seem they held together and we able to defeat him.

Yet, perhaps he was able to plant seeds of doubt and uncertainty in Luna's heart... causing her to see her loving sister in a different like. These seeds could have then grown, causing her to see things in a more negitive light. Causing her to think no one liked her or loved her. That her sister did love her and that everypony only loved her.

This could have easily lead to her feelings of loneliness and jealously, causing Luna to perhaps create 'Moony', an imaginary friend as well as look for a means of becoming stronger then her sister. Which could the gotten Luna to do that which caused her to lose herself had have 'Moony' take over.

Celestia could have not seen this change for a number of reason. Perhaps her duties as princess we taking up all her time, perhaps Luna start bugging Celestia for more attention... perhaps, as is common when one is depressed... Luna distanced herself from Celestia. Luna hide her feelings and pretended nothing was wrong. You would be suprised at just how many loving families did not realize something was wrong with a member of then famliy until it was to late.

In this case Celestia did not realize her sisters 'fall' until see was already too late, thus forcing Celestia into a corner and needing to make a choice. Let this... force that controlled her sister destroy Equestria or find a way to defeat her. Now it is clearly shown that alone, Celestia was not strong enough to fight Nightmare Moon. So Celestia went fr the most powerful for known in Equestria... the Elements of Harmony.

Yet, as has been shown, the Elements of Harmony only work when harmony and friendships is strong. Yet Celestia only friend, her beloved sister Luna, was no more. Somehow it would seem Celestia forced or was able to use the Elements. Yet it seemed she was unable to uses them full. It showed that she only wore the crown, the Element of Magic, and not the others. My thoughts are is that she did not have the means to free her sister from the darkness that controlled her. Instead the Elements banished Luna for 1000 years on the Moon. It would make since that this was not what Celestia wanted to happen.

Imagine, all these years Celestia living with this guilt, living with the loneliness of losing her only friend and the only one that could understand her. Is Celestia perfect... no, yet she does the best she can and thinks of others before herself. For 1000 years Celestia ruled Equestria all by herself, watching all those she grew close to live and died. Undertsnading that by her choices a pony could be hurt or suffer... that is a heavy burden indeed.

Yet Celestia does so, not only that but she does it with a calm and even playfulness. Hiding from all the pain she most likely held inside herself, not even Twilight truly understanding her mentor.
Kein
#534227
9 months ago
Despite the fact your theory makes no solid sense and it was stated by the show itself (s01ep01) and by Lauren why conflict between Sisters happened, I applause your comment, lol. That is a lot of text.
Anonymous
#534983
9 months ago
Explain where I messed up please. It is a sound theory.
I am saying it was by Discord's words that lead Luna to later turn against her sister. There is nothing in the show that counters this.
WildHeart
#535316
9 months ago
^Word of Lauren states that Luna was possessed by an outside force, the entity that turned her into Nightmare Moon.
Anonymous
#536634
9 months ago
Yes but who is to say she did not let this outside force in after having grown vunerable by letting Discord words get to her?
Kein
#537344
9 months ago
@534983
First, Lauren said it was some kind of "evil magic" that Luna, being drown in sadness and bitetrness, alllowed to slip in her heart ant take over her mind. Not Discord. Remember, Discord's confusion is quite unique, but what happened to Luna does not match the concept of his powers. It was internal conflict, and conflict between Sisters as well.

Besides, when Discord was able to plan those "seeds"? 1000 years ago? It does not sounds reasonable, there was a love and harmony (the "connection") between Sisters thus that's why they were able to use full potential of the EoH and defeat Discord. if the latter managed to bring disharmony in their relationships before then Sisters wouldn't be able to sue EoH properly. As for "long-term curse" - it does not work as well, we saw that Dsicord affection has immediate effect and, besides, the narrator in ep02 says that Sisters "maintained balance and harmony since then". i failedto see hwo corrupted Luna could take its place in the balance, she would b a flaw adn thus there wouldn't be any harmony. Especially for this long period.

I understand you like your theory and it sounds quite plausible for you, but it has no place in canon. But hey! That is what
> fanfiction
for :P Everyone has its own headcanon after all.

One thing I would like to note tho (I should have do that before):
Imagine, all these years Celestia living with this guilt, living with the loneliness of losing her only friend and the only one that could understand her. Is Celestia perfect... no, yet she does the best she can and thinks of others before herself. For 1000 years Celestia ruled Equestria all by herself, watching all those she grew close to live and died. Undertsnading that by her choices a pony could be hurt or suffer... that is a heavy burden indeed.
this is like... you reading my mind. Our headcanon regarding Celestia is very close. I hope me and Jack will be bale to release a comic that follows this idea soon.
Anonymous
#537416
9 months ago
I was just saying he could have placed doubt in her heart, words sink deep. Well Celesria and Luna were united when they defeated Discord and possibily some time past taking up the rule of Equestria, that does not mean he words did not effect Luna. With such words as, "You will never be as good as your sister, everyone will like her and not you." "You thik you will be able to keep your sister's love, ha, she will grow too busy for her little sister."

Then as years go by Luna and she is left to her own thoughts... Discord words come to mind and she starts to see the world in Discords eyes and that his words were coming true.

Onto Celestia, I am glad we agree. I feel Celestia needs more love from the fans.
Kein
#538958
9 months ago
With such words as, "You will never be as good as your sister, everyone will like her and not you." "You thik you will be able to keep your sister's love, ha, she will grow too busy for her little sister."

And as I said, it sounds plausible but only as headcanon. Discord loves to mock Celestia, remember his false accusation about her turning ponies into stone? He was quite aware of many events that happened during his imprisonment and about events that happened with Luna 1000 years ago as well. Such poser like he wouldn't miss to mention his success before Celestia just to try to piss of her more. But he didn't. It never was mentioned in the show.

Onto Celestia, I am glad we agree. I feel Celestia needs more love from the fans.
haha well
When it comes to Celestia I'm the most faithful fan of her. The small bits of her portrait and character we see in the show amuses and raptures me.
But the way how fandom portrays leaves a hollow feeling of bewilderment and confusion. Yes, I'm quite aware this is cartoon, non-existent character and "I shouldn't take things seriously" but this is where the beauty of fictional characters lies - they live in our hearts. We are the one who give them live. And it is up to us to decide what kind of life it will be.