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HeinousActsZX
#535643
9 months ago
I'm not a furry, but I don't get why they get so much hate from us and vice-versa. And please, give real reasons.
thatguy
#535644
9 months ago
We don't just have much in common, we have significant overlap between both communities.
Anonymous
#535648
9 months ago
[IMG]http://arch.413chan.net/shitstorm-%28n1298605868726%29.png[/IMG]
Anonymous
#535650
9 months ago
^Ok, how do I post pictures again?
ChickNeighney
#535654
9 months ago
I, too, have wondered this. I'd like to know an actual reason besides, "they're icky and have cooties."
Gizmo
#535657
9 months ago
Lance
#535659
9 months ago
@5648 w/"img" not "IMG"
Lance
#535665
9 months ago
OT: People will always find other people to hate, even through half-contrived reasons? Honestly, I don't know and frankly I don't give any sorts of fuck. I only have about twenty fucks left and so I'm getting a bit Jewish about handing them out to just anybody.
Mushi
#535667
9 months ago
i dont hate furries, but i will not be here for the shitstorm
dragonSpike
#535669
9 months ago
It's not the furries I hate, rather, it's certain fetishes.

If you were to (somehow) take a look at my content preferences, you'd find I've only blacklisted two specific things--and they're essentially the same thing (one with artist: before it and one without).

"Furries" are often tied to the more 'alternative hard' (ah) artwork when talked about, so most of the bronies probably think that's what a furry is.
Anonymous
#535670
9 months ago
So why upload this to an art website?
This isnt a forum or chat board
Jackarunda
#535676
9 months ago

I KNOW RIGHT

TinTwit
#535679
9 months ago
I don't hate anyone. Seriously, people can have their fetishes. They're not hurting me or anyone else.
Anonymous
#535680
9 months ago
Remember when Ponibooru was an image board?
Anonymous
#535681
9 months ago
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Fur_heresy
i know that not all furries are like this, but the few that i have known in RL are a lot like this...

also, i dont know any other bronies in RL, so i cant make fair comparisons, but i would think that its because bronies tend to not be as flamboyant with their fandom as furries are. furries are furries because they want to feel special and stick out from the crowd, bronies are bronies because they watch mlp:fim. weather or not they try to wield it to try and stick out from the crowd is up to them.
Anonymous
#535682
9 months ago
^Image site*
StreakTheFox
#535684
9 months ago
I'm a furry
and I'm a brony
:D
And I love it!

But one reason I believe is because it's an internet habit. A good portion of bronies are old f-chan browsers, where furries are satan. And while some have changed to the ways of love and tolerance, a few still can't change their opinions on furries, even after being taught such lessons of love and tolerance.
Now...
as for furries hating bronies...
Some furries see the brony community as a big disgrace.
Others see them as a bunch of grown men gawking over little kid shows and hate them for that reason.
some find them flat out annoying.
and other various reasons.
...
I'm part of both sub-cultures, so I would know.
FancyCat2008
#535696
9 months ago
We both enjoy entertainment that is normally aimed at a lower age group. We both create (like it or not) Rule 34 art based on those forms of entertainment. We both like cute talking animals. As far as I can see, the only real difference between Bronies and Furries are that bronies are fans of only one particular type of anthropomorphic animal. And no, I am not trying to say anything bad about either community. I consider myself a member of both.

Being afraid that one community will taint the public image of the other by association is stupid. As far as the "mainstream" internet is concerned, we're both pariahs. It is just so intensely silly to see comments against bronies on sites like Furaffinity, and anti-furry sentiment on sites like EQD, and this one especially.

tl;dr Why can't we all just get along.
dragonSpike
#535697
9 months ago
Righteous, Streak.

Honestly, almost every single brony is a furry, whether or not they accept that truth. Got a pony OC? You're a furry. Got a ponyself? You're OBVIOUSLY a furry. Do you ship any of the ponies? You're a furry.

Hell, if you like the show for anything OTHER than "It's just a nice show to watch to pass the time", you are a furry.

Like I said before, being a furry does NOT mean you like gore, rape, vore, or anything along those lines.
Anonymous
#535705
9 months ago
How would you define a "furry" and a "brony"?
Anonymous
#535706
9 months ago
#535697 then why even have the term brony? Why don't we call ourselves furries if that's all we are?
Naruto2-point0
#535708
9 months ago
^..............You're alright StreakTheFox. You're an alright guy
Kanashi1kage
#535709
9 months ago
Bronies on furriess

Old 4chan habits and athros generally not being well recieved. Fetishes that are commonly associated with the Furry fandom thanks to some news media focusing on the sexual furries over the more tame furries. Attention whore furries pissing everyone off.

Furries on Bronies

Fantard bronies being annoying. Reactive hate to bronies hating them.

Overall, I don't give a fuck.
Anonymous
#535713
9 months ago
Some furrier-than-thou furries hate MLP, because they don't see it as being sufficiently furry.
They're also really, really good at being drama queens. Check out recent events at Furaffinity for a good example. (Long story short: Season 2 of MLP was celebrated by an MLP themed weekend -- which meant a different banner, as well as an encouragement to produce MLP-themed art during said weekend. A ton of furries threw a fit.)
Hi_Jinx
#535714
9 months ago
Because this is the internet, and the internet is a monolith of venomous, venomous hatred.

As someone who's dipped a toe into more fandoms than she'd like to admit- I find it more amusing than anything else. =3 It doesn't seem to me like most fans of MLP care one way or another about furries and most furries don't care one way or another about ponies, but hatred is always louder, more spectacular and funnier to watch than apathy and tolerance.
Naruto2-point0
#535719
9 months ago
Also, DragonSpike's comment made me giggle
dragonSpike
#535720
9 months ago
@706: Because, while we are furries, we're a specific group. 'furry' is just an umbrella term that covers ALL the groups, whereas "brony" is just the one for MLP.

Similar to how those who enjoy sonic are mobians.
Anonymous
#535722
9 months ago
Frankly, I think it's a matter of pride. "Furry", as a term, applies to such a broad demograph. And there are certantly some whack sections of it. Bronies are a specialized fan section - Friendship is Magic. It's such an unexpected fandom, and a rather unique one (as much as it can be) that bronies simply do not like the broader generalizations.

But that's just me.
HeinousActsZX
#535730
9 months ago
@Jinxy I know, but I can hope, right?
Kanashi1kage
#535731
9 months ago
Furries are defined by their love of general athromorphic animals.

Bronies are defined by their love of FiM.

A brony can be a furry. A furry can be a brony. But you can also be one and not the other. Like alot of fandoms.
Anonymous
#535733
9 months ago
Let me just bring this up again.
You shouldn't hate someone for just being interested in the same things as Furries - perhaps they don't wear Fursuits? Perhaps they don't have sex with soft toys? Furryism is based on hijacking and retroactive branding, so someone that enjoys the same things as furries, may not be a furry at all.
Anonymous
#535735
9 months ago
#535731 exactly, separate but equal, that's gotta work for something.
Anonymous
#535762
9 months ago
Honestly, do you think this fandom would be as well accepted as it is if it were just an abutment of the furry subculture I THINK NOT SIR!
Edudls
#535765
9 months ago
I think the reason bronies don't want to be associated with furries is because of all the bad publicity furries have. Hell, the media was calling us jobless manchildren before we were associated with furries, and if you combine the bad publicity of the two, you get another Sonic fandom.
Anonymous
#535769
9 months ago
Furries and bronies look at each other and see what they hate about their own fandoms. Neither can look beyond that.
HeinousActsZX
#535783
9 months ago
@535769 Wow, that's a really good point. I never really thought of that. I don't even hate furries, but you're right.
Erroneous
#535831
9 months ago
The furry fandom is based on a fetish (most of the time, not all of the time, some people just like the art, but the fandom at its core is)

The bronies are based on the love of a cartoon.

Not the same thing at all
Kein
#535846
9 months ago
> we have so much in common
few months later I would reply:

but now... yeah, now there is a hardly difference between those two *points at some content on some site*
PaladinDrakkenwolf
#535860
9 months ago
Past and present friends of mine are furries and I have found them to be a lovely bunch of coconuts (bad pun).
Anonymous
#535876
9 months ago
I don't mind furries, I am just disturbed at the fetishes.

Also I'm not insulting anyone but I really hate seeing "rule34d" pictures of every damn animal that don't even remotely look like a human that results in either transgender, vore, and over sized proportions.
Anonymous
#535881
9 months ago
^ this
Anonymous
#535883
9 months ago
Imagine, for a moment, if a known sick fuck in an animal costume with his dick hanging out went up to you in real life and told you how much the two of you had in common.

Would you be appalled? Disturbed? Royally cheesed off?

Can't we just enjoy our innocent cartoons, d'awww moments and heartwarming tales without this rampant infestation of faggotry? Can't we, for once in the entire fucking history of the Internet, have nice things?

Or am I going to have to write letters like "Dear Mr. and Mrs. Parents, did you know that your son, J. Creepicus Basementdweller, has been creating pictures based on a little girl's cartoon with extreme hardcore pornographic content? Well, now you do. Enclosed is everything he drew."
409
#535896
9 months ago
The problem is that there's too much in common for us to be comfortable.
Anonymous
#535920
9 months ago
I've never hated the furry fandom myself, even before MLP. So I wouldn't know.
Kajet
#535961
9 months ago
Furries dislike bronies because they tend to shove MLP:FiM in people's faces.

It seems the same could be said if you swapped the groups and replaced "MLP:FiM" with "Anthros" in that sentence. I can say this because I belong to both groups.
Anonymous
#535988
9 months ago
Eh, furries don't really bother me. I mean sure, every genre has it's weird fetishes, (And i've seen some stuff that almost makes me what to punch through my computer screen), But i'm the type who just tolerates everybody, and let it be, cause nopony will agree on everything together. It is what it is. :/
gasmaskangel
#535992
9 months ago
Why does everyone have to be in a "community"?

Fuck all that collectivist bullshit and deal with people on an individual basis I say.
benger
#535994
9 months ago
OH GOD! FURRIES! HELLSPAWN INCARNATE! EVERYPONY RUN!
Anonymous
#536009
9 months ago
#535992 Thank God someone who understands, consider this metaphor; you wouldn't call a cowboy a redneck, and a cowboy wouldn't want to be considered a redneck either (in most cases) even though they share the same accent, dialect, and are in the same geographic region their two different cultures that share the same qualities redneck's are not a subculture of cowboys and vice versa, taking this into account though we share many qualities why do we have to "join their community" can't we be our own?
Anonymous
#536017
9 months ago
My theory is that, while we're similar to furries, we don't want to be associated with them. We're still a somewhat young group, so we still have yet to see if our reputation will tip more toward either hated or loved. I can see how some would think that association with furries would mean being instantly hated by the internet/media. I think an analogy might work better.

Look at it like this: The internet/media is like a stereotypical high school. Fads come and go, and people naturally join and stay in their ideal cliques. Same thing with popularity.

Furries are at the bottom of the popularity ladder in this analogy. They're perfectly nice, don't tend to hurt or try to bother anyone, and generally are ok. However, they're the internet's equivalent to the fat/nerdy/smelly/insane/etc kid that no one wants to hang with. They're nice, but hanging with them essentially ensures years of beatings and being spat on by even the least popular groups. Even though there are tons of people in this group, they;re still looked down on and heavily disliked by many.

Bronies are new kids at this school. They have a neutral relationship with other groups, and are firmly in the middle of the love/hate spectrum when viewed by others. Just like the furries, tons of people are in the group.

You see, as the new kids, we bronies are trying to make a good name for ourselves in the internet. From what I can tell, many bronies are worried that associating with furries will pull us down to their popularity level, or even make us less popular than them.

And, just like stereotypical fads and cliques, this is bullshit. We'll stand out on our own regardless of whether or not we're buddies with the furries. So be nice to our incredibly similar neighbors, ok?
RealityCheck
#536037
9 months ago
Why? Because, my dear sad child, until the bronies came along, furries had noone to look down on....
Anonymous
#536040
9 months ago
#536017 Tell that to the Sonic fandom people they got mixed up with the furries and thy're just as hated as them now.
Turin_Aramaia
#536074
9 months ago
Well, Sylys Sable, one of the founders of the furry fandom, shows an episode or two of MLP:FiM in [http://prancing.skiltaire.net]his monthly house party[/url], every second Saturday from 4-10p.m.. That's this Saturday, bronies! (I'll be arriving late with plenty of made-from-scratch cookies!)
Anonymous
#536075
9 months ago
(From #536017 to #536040)

Groups will stand out on their own. The Sonic fandom was likely bad before mixing with any others. I've never associated with, nor have I seen them perform any truly hate-worthy actions, so I can't honestly say that you're wrong or that I'm right.
HeinousActsZX
#536081
9 months ago
I have to give everyone credit. I didn't think you'd be this civil and I thank you for that. Also, 536017, thank you for conveying my point better than I could've.
Xuncu
#536321
9 months ago
Furry Brony here. As an artist (on haitus) I haven't done anything MLP yet, though I've gotten a few nods that I should, and would prolly keep my fursona in any fancomics I did (I have one or two ideas).

I do know what makes an annoying furry... or annoying pony-only fanartist/OC (that goddamn turtle, Skywind, Mel the Hybrid), and know for a fact that, for the majority of us, furry stereotypes are simply not true, any more than any real-life stereotypes are true of real minority or culture groups.

Being a ethnic minority in real life, I'm aware racism is born of ignorance, not also of the target culture, but of general inexperience of the world. In this internet age, where children learn more about the world from the 'net than perhaps their parents anymore, I feel the learned furry hate is of the same vein as alot of passive racism; that it's just how that person grows up and 'expects' the world to work, and that it's 'OK' to act that way.

ie; while they are orders of magnitude different, that for the child of Klan members, that "hating blacks, jews, and gays is normal" is establised in that kid in the same pattern that a child raised by the internet thinks furry-bashing is normal; Either way, the societal norms that primarily raise that child develop their behavioral norms.

Instead of the real-life consequences of racial hatred, the ego-inflating properties of the itnernet make internet-learned hates merely seem much more severe than they actually are, making the tempers on both sides flare up just as high as if they were of the same significance as racial hatreds.
Xuncu
#536381
9 months ago
And I did go on about this in some pic a month or so ago; basically about the bad rap furries get for being sexual.

I forgot most of what I wrote, but basically I proposed that, as most people don't fall precisely at 1 or 6 on the Kinsey scale, that it's not wierd that there are more out bisexuals in the furry fandom: that, if people were less 'repressed' by societal norms, and were honest with themselves, and didn't need to prove themselves to be manly -- by, for example, dismissing FiM out of hand as for 'only being for little girls' -- that the real-life reports of people who acknlowledg to have some bisexual inclinations would not be so vast a difference as from the percentage of furries that claim to be bi/curious.

And for the extreme Alt fetishes, like vore, transformation, also show up in similar percentages in both furries and non-furries (many times have I whutted at drawn human porn where suddenly I see human-only gender transformation, or giantesses eating the artist's human OC).

That the only actual "significantly different variable" is that furries do tend to express themselves less unabashedly, less self-censorship, for both good and bad. This need to express ourselves is a key point in becoming/being furry, but also we don't hold back emotions as much, such as affection, or anger.

Again, that it would be similar amounts of occurrances to a 'typical' furry (ie; not actually what most furries act like, but what's presented in the collective consciousness of the internet) if a non-fur always acted out on feelings of "I wanna tolerate and love the fuck out of that person", or "I wanna fuck her", or "I wanna yell at that fucker for making me feel bad." (ie; Affection, arousal, and anger."

I'm not the best writer, so I hope my thoughts are clear enough to get my point.
Anonymous
#536500
9 months ago
There is an old saying:

WE HATE WHICH RESEMBLES US.

There are similar hatings between
homo- and bisexuals..

It's a habit of drawing a line..
Paradox
#536530
9 months ago
I'm a furry. Alot of the people in the EQD IRC are furries too. I never hated them but theres no sense of companionship among furries from my 6 year experience with them. I didn't even see any sort of tension between the fandoms till that whole Furaffinity banner controversy. I lost a huge amount of respect for the furry fandom when I heard about that.
troll
#536539
9 months ago
Hating furries is a meme. And I dont mean those reaction picture ones, but literal meme.

Whenever something explicit got posted we (jokely) blamed the furries and now that attitude is kind of stuck'd.
Huacaya
#536558
9 months ago
Because the colour of their shirts is slightly different to the colour of our shirts, that's why.
Anonymous
#536646
9 months ago
@536040: >implying those idiots are actual fans

I'm so lonely... ;_;
TheLoneLampman
#536656
9 months ago
TL:DR.

The way it seems--

Furry: 'We aren't a bunch of children for liking this, like THEY are!'
Brony: 'We aren't a bunch of disgusting perverts, like THEY are!'

Nice, idn't it?
FamelessFace
#537130
9 months ago
Bronies read (mostly) interesting fanfiction and make cute comics about a tv show.

While THEY enjoy pictures of cats with boobs drawn on and fap to said content.
Anonymous
#537141
9 months ago
Anthro is shit, that's why!
romantiCaveman
#537178
9 months ago
I don't have any problem with majority of the furry community. I'm a little bit more iffy about the furries who fetish-ize their fandom's stuff, but hey, we've all got weird-ass fetishes. Who am I to judge?

And you gotta admit, some of the yiff-art stuff is actually kinda hot and whyboner.jpg worthy. Don't deny it, people.
Jimmytrius
#537279
9 months ago
The only thing that this fandom and the furry fandom have in common is the fact that there is some people that faps to animal-like creatures, in my opinion :$

Thus, "clean" Bronies fear that the word "Bronie" is used the same way as the word "furry", because they don't want to be considered the same as furries or "unclean" Bronies ^^U
marioandsonic
#537291
9 months ago
Meh, I dunno.
Anonymous
#537656
9 months ago
If it makes you feel better Jim, without /b/ you arent really a brony at all so you dont have to worry about the word being 'tarnished'
Drackolus
#538042
9 months ago
Meh. Based on my own research into the topic of sexual deviancy, furries really aren't that weird. It doesn't even fall under paraphilia, because furry is (at least, the vast majority of it), far more human than not. It's really just a matter of what features are recognized first. From a biological standpoint, skeletal structure is by far the most important in that aspect, and most furries are nearly completely human in that way.

But, uh, anyway, a real brony doesn't hate anypony. 30% of the world claims to be Christian (including Catholicism and all other sects), but I think it's safe to say that at least a large number of them don't really do anything other than check that box on a paper when asked. I think being a brony means more than liking the show... it means actually understanding the underlying concepts and accepting them into your worldview. At least, that's what I'd like to think.
Anonymous
#538227
9 months ago
what most people dont understand is that there is a huge difference between a furry and a yiffer, a furry isnt in it for sexual reasons, more because its fun etc but a yiffer is for sexual reasons Its about the same difference between a brony and a clopper
Calbeck
#538325
9 months ago
Furries don't have much of a problem with Bronies, outside of having a bit of the same reaction 4chan did: SUDDENLY PONIES, PONIES EVERYWHERE. Same kind of kneejerk reaction as when Sonic fandom invaded furry fandom way back when.

Conversely, Bronies tend to have a lot of hate on for Furries simply because many Bronies came from 4chan --- where admitting anything OTHER than hate for Furries becomes an instant shitstorm. It's simply in vogue, and a lot of Bronies are having a hard time breaking the habit.

It doesn't help, of course, that some of the more notorious Furry fetish artists have wandered over and concluded that "love and tolerance" means they think they found a new market...
Anonymous
#716243
7 months ago
I'm both furry and a brony.I love both fandoms,but I hate them both for one reason.The stupid people.I made a big group on the Facebook,joining furries and bronies together.It's called The Brony Furtopia Hotel.If there's anyone out there who likes both ponies and furries and is interested in joining,add me on the facebook.My name is Valeriy Tafiy (but don't forget to tell me that you want to join the group) Thank you.