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wolfer991
#338631
11 months ago
Poor Scoot.
Epicplatypus
#338634
11 months ago
I said this on a nyxabuse pic, I'll say it again here
Why do we (as a fandom) love the characters that SHOULD be hated (Nightmare moon, trixie, Gilda, Diamond tiara, ETC.) But we have an over-abundance of scootabuse, lunabuse, nyxabuse (shes an oc so I KIND of understand that one) and so on and so forth... it seems we abuse the ones that most deserve the love and love the ones that havent done anything to deserve it...
Not complaining... just an observation....
Anonymous
#338651
11 months ago
"We" don't abuse anybody. I didn't draw this, and I don't think you did either.
Jackarunda
#338652
11 months ago
I agree with Eucalyptu- I mean Epicplatypus
Epicplatypus
#338658
11 months ago
ah! but we support it! which drives artists to create more of it!
not gonna lie... its funny

but still... why is it that we do that?
PandaCoon
#338659
11 months ago
I do believe Rainbow Dash has lost part of her tail D:
Anonymous
#338664
11 months ago
i thought scootabuse died out along time ago... T_T
cromwell15
#338688
11 months ago
#338634: dunno, why do we like pscyho pinkie?
Epicplatypus
#338699
11 months ago
Psycho pinkie I understand... it spawned from a fanfic and is actually SORT of canon....
Psycho pinkie in itself is funny
Cupcakes pinkie (while I find it funny) goes towards the same question I had earlier.... why do we support pinkie chopping up rainbow dash and all of her friends into meat and baking them into cupcakes?
we are a community based around MY LITTLE PONY... you would think that stuff would be few and far between, but it seems most of the pinkie stuff we have is cupcakes related...
Consider this my social experiment... why do we enjoy that kind of stuff when we really shouldnt?
Epicplatypus
#338702
11 months ago
again... not judging or raging at anyone... im just a very curious platypus tonight....
sodomitor
#338714
11 months ago
@Epicplatypus

I love everypony. NMM, Gilda, Tiara, Spoon, Trixie (oh, Trixie!) , Pinkie, Fluttershy, Berry Punch, Derpy, Scootaloo and Dash and... you've got the idea.

I dunno why somepony writes scootabuse, tyrant Celestia and Molestia.

And don't you say Trixie or NMM do not deserved love! NMM was created from loneliness, she needs love more than anypony!
Anonymous
#338740
11 months ago
Or NMM is just an entity of pure malice and malevolence that possessed Luna
Bluuper
#338786
11 months ago
Scoots is best pony (To me, don't hate) and I love all this. I am a bad person.
Hsere
#338802
11 months ago
For the record, I generally hate scootabuse, but: Possible explanations:
1) Humor. The incongruity between the character's canon or "real" behavior and the behavior shown results in an absurd situation that, if done well (and it isn't always) is amusing. A similar principle is in place for showing the characters cursing or engaging in intense violence -- the two elements are so out-of-place (cute kids' show + intense verbal or physical violence) that, if done properly, it's funny.

Furthermore, much of the [X]abuse attempts to use another principle of humor -- if you exaggerate tragedy to sufficiently extreme lengths, it ceases to evoke sympathy and evokes humor, on the following grounds: it just becomes ridiculous that things could go this badly for someone, and the absurdity results in humor. An example would be the story (I'm not sure if it's true or not) of the man whose car careened off a bridge in the middle of a storm, he managed to open the window, swim through the raging currents, avoid the rocks, and finally latch onto a band and pull himself ashore...where he was killed by a falling tree. It doesn't always SUCCESSFULLY produce humor, but that's the idea, anyway.

2) A desire to get the "real story". Frequently in both real life and fiction we find that our initial impressions of a situation are wrong, or that there's more to a situation than we first supposed. More specifically, we sometimes find that some0NE (or somepony, or somegriffon, whichever) we thought to be a complete jerk with no redeeming qualities actually behaves how they do for an understandable, if still not justifiable, reason. By the same token, we often find that someone we initially thought to be a great person is really not so great, just good at SEEMING like a great person.

In the case of Trixielove, GildaLove, etc., one can only watch someone be an asshole so many times before asking "why would they do that"? This is particularly true in FiM, because the writers are good at making the "villains" still seem "human" (I use "human" here in the sense of "somewhat relatable").

For example, even though Gilda is a complete bitch to everyone but Dash, it's evident that she truly values their friendship, and when Dash calls her on being a jerk, she's pretty clearly conflicted and somewhat disturbed by it, before we see her put up the "wall" again and storm out. This conflict draws people to look for an explanation for this seemingly nonsensical behavior, and one believable one is (for example) that she's fiercely overprotective of Dash due to severe insecurity issues, and wants to keep her from interacting with anyone else for fear that they'll "take Dash away from her," so she responds with hostility to the perceived (nonexistent) threat. These sorts of issues are behind much of the antisocial or hostile behavior people exhibit in real life, so these explanations tend to resonate with people's personal experience in a way that "she's just a bitch" doesn't.

On the other hoof, Celestia seems so benevolent that this tends to evoke a "too good to be true" response in some people, who wonder what "the catch" is. This partially explains Tyrant Celestia, Trollestia, and Molestia, though the "incongruity leads to humor" explanation above also plays a large role.

Finally, I'd point out that (for example) Scootabuse doesn't seem to outweigh Scootalove by as wide a margin as you seem to think. Searching "scootabuse" on ponibooru brings up 6 pages of images, while searching "scootalove" brings up 4, so that's roughly 40% Scootalove vs. 60% Scootabuse -- an imbalance, but not a severe one. This isn't really a representative experiment, though, as the "Scootalove" doesn't bring up those images that paint Scootaloo in a neutral or merely affectionate light, instead often only bringing up those in which she is shown significant affection by Rainbow Dash specifically (get your minds out of the gutter). Searching "scootaloo" brings up 108 pages, suggesting that only roughly 5.5% of Scootaloo images include scootabuse ("roughly" is emphasized, as we haven't corrected for things like how often people forget to tag "scootaloo" vs. forgetting to tag "scootalove", but it should work for an approximation).

TL;DR: Abuse/love of characters that don't seem to warrant it probably normally results from an attempt at humor, the "too good to be true" effect, or an attempt to explain a character's behavior with something other than "they're just a bad person". And [X]abuse isn't as prevalent as you seem to think.
Epicplatypus
#338807
11 months ago
@sodomitor
I too love trixie
but honestly
what has she done to deserve love? she kinda trolled everyone in ponyville....
Anonymous
#338851
11 months ago
I would say most of the abuse pics and whatnot stems from the way internet humor usually works. The use of rape, violence, domination, sexual jokes and stupidity as humor is part of internet culture, which of course has followed this fandom as a deal of sorts. This kind of content isn't isolated to mlp fandom, but is actually a sort of cultural mutation with the internet at large.

As for the reason why these kind of themes are relevant in the internet in the first place, I could say something about Adlerian psychology, but that would be too long to write and would probably be inaccurate as well. The things that stick in the mind have a habit of being the most prominent in any culture if nothing else.
Epicplatypus
#338856
11 months ago
@Hsere

I honestly wasnt expecting to see a legit answer, because I didnt think anyone would really take the time to think about it...
thank you!
that was an awesome response and it satisfied my curiosity! a very hard thing to do!

You get 30 internet points for that one!
Epicplatypus
#338864
11 months ago
And another 30 for anonymous!

people always post while im typing.... damn ninjas!
Narthorn
#338928
11 months ago
Also, the specific reason why people started drawing scootabuse :
Epicplatypus
#338936
11 months ago
god damn.....

all of this abuse... because LF said RBD wouldnt treat her sister like a perfect angel ("expected to be treated in MLP")
MLP bieng a near perfect society, I bet being a good sister is a hard thing to do.
sodomitor
#338958
11 months ago
@Epicplatypus

Well, she made some damn good magic show (see reaction from crowd - they were impressed) Just because she kinda exaggerated her abilities it isn't make her bad showmare.

Then manecast started to interrupt her show and she, albeit forcefully, put them on place, because y'know, interrupt artist is kinda rude.

After Snips and Snails lured Ursa into town (not her fault, by the way) she was very brave and TRIED to defeat him even knowing she can't do it. It's very brave of her.

After episode, just because she was a little egoistical and showmare, she lost her trailer and was shooed off Ponyville. She do not deserved it.
Narthorn
#338961
11 months ago
I like the scootabuse.
It makes the scootalove pictures that much more endearing.
Epicplatypus
#338963
11 months ago
@sodomitor....

Damn... good explanation....
Epicplatypus
#338972
11 months ago
AAAND narthorn NINJAS me yet again with another VERY true statement!

also... see what we can accomplish when we open our minds and actually discuss things instead of reverting to the typical internet penis comparison?

THIS
my bronies
is why I LOOOVVVEE this fandom so much
everyone in this thread receives a cookie
sodomitor
#338987
11 months ago
^ I'll donate my cookie to Trixie.
Anonymous
#339002
11 months ago
<img>http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/ac17980b65756b1fd4642573dab72706/24755%20-%20KFC%20chicken%20scootabuse%20scootachicken%20scootaloo%20scootaloo_is_a_chicken.png</img>
Anonymous
#339011
11 months ago
Oh, are we doing big posts? Guess I'll add my 2 bits.

I've always thought people drew Scootabuse because they actually wanted Scootalove. (Not all, I'm sure there are some peeps simply drawing it for the lulz/to troll)

In my mind it's easier to draw abuse (just have Scoots getting yelled at/beaten up) than it is to draw something heartwarming and nice.

The reason they draw it is so somepony else will try to counter it with love.
This usually is how it went. During the periods that abuse was most common, love was also more common.

I think that drawing/writing Scootalove yourself will not evoke the same feelings as seeing something somepony else created.
Anonymous
#339018
11 months ago
@Narthorn I've been saying the exact same thing forever.
Anonymous
#339028
11 months ago
@Hsere

...You are now my hero. Have ALL my internets!

*gives Hsere all my internets*
Shawa666
#339047
11 months ago
ITT somebrony with a stuck-up bitch attitude is lived and tolerated.
Epicplatypus
#339060
11 months ago
^ who would that be?
All I see is a bunch of fine gentlemen discussing an interesting topic.
Isshiki_Kotonashi
#339085
11 months ago
GUYS DON'T MAKE ME ADD DISCUSSION T-GODDAMMIT TOO LATE
AetherNite75
#339087
11 months ago
This is my favorite thread
Hsere
#339493
11 months ago
Thank you, Anon028.
Man, what am I gonna do with all these internets?
Anonymous
#339644
11 months ago
@Epicplatypus: Sorry to interrupt, but there's this guy with a funny accent, dressed in a labcoat, who's been loking for you. Says you dropped a fedora at his place during your last 'visit'.
Epicplatypus
#340705
11 months ago
I wish I got the reference..... but I dont...
Anonymous
#343924
11 months ago
*hint* Watch 'Phineas and Ferb', they've a pet platypus who's secretly a secret agent. 'Nuff said.
Anonymous
#352044
11 months ago
Haha, I made this image for ponychan thread trying to get some decent scootabuse. Never would have thought it would have led to such an in depth discussion ^ HAHA
Anonymous
#451746
10 months ago
because epiclatypus your atustic
Anonymous
#451868
10 months ago
What's an atustic and where do you get one?
Anonymous
#545415
9 months ago
@Epicplatypus

I've read several of your arguments, as well as the responses, and it all seems to make sense, but that doesn't make it right. Granted, yes, we can all agree that if it was G3 Scoots getting the crap beat out of her, we'd be cheering like crazy. Why? Because we feel nothing for the character other than annoyance and a desire to see it erased from MLP history.

It's like if you stuck a bunch of kids in a SAW-style setting, than did the same thing to a group of terrorist, two completely different reactions.

Still, I'm not condoning any of it. I think at the next Con that Lauren Faust is at, somepony should ask her about this whole subject. Also, yeah, has anypony ever looked at Rarity or AJ? While they're better at being siblings to their sisters, even they aren't perfect.
Anonymous
#1251074
3 months ago
i lol'd