
| -flood- #336272 11 months ago |
Wondering.
Is there anypony that'd fit Reimu's personality? Twi fits Patchy great but when I think about it, she's also probly the closest to Reimu. |
| Tarkinor_the_Rainbow_Explorer #336331 11 months ago |
I want more of these. |
| drpepperfan1 #336335 11 months ago |
Haha YES |
| -flood- #336350 11 months ago |
Also, Twi should look more pissed here. This isn't how Reimu is.
Twi's so good at looking pissed. Why act cute now? |
| Anonymous #336565 11 months ago |
Rainbow Dash stole the precious thing. |
| dudemang #336883 11 months ago |
Twilight as Reimu I can see. Though Patchy is seemingly a more obvious choice.
However, Rainbow Dash as Marisa is ridiculous. Dash is a hero, she'll act a bit mischievous or immature at times, but she'd not leave other ponies hanging. Marisa just steals things for herself, and anything she says about being a 'hero of love' is just a ironic comment given the rest of her character - she's anything but heroic. |
| Anonymous #337545 11 months ago |
^ Dash is no hero, either, as her unsportsmarelike conduct in "Fall Weather Friends" and bone laziness and selfishness in "Ticket Master" supports. None of the ponies are heroic (even though they are heroes). And none of the Touhou girls are heroic, even Reimu. |
| dudemang #337783 11 months ago |
^That's true, no Touhou character is particularly heroic. It's a world where heroism isn't direly needed because an incident doesn't tend to be so dire (save for maybe Subterranean Animism, depending on how you view Utsuho's actions).
I absolutely refuse to see Dash as Marisa, though. Marisa plows through things with overwhelming magic power for material things that she hoards in her house on the flaky pretense that whoever she stole them from can have it back when she's dead. She doesn't care about other people except for how they might relate to her well-being (after all, she'd just be bored out of her skull without Reimu, poor pitiful Marisa). She doesn't do things to get Gensokyo back to normal after an incident, it's to go after something valuable or perhaps just to hunt youkai for stuff. As said by Eiki, she's a liar. She's a sociopath, especially bad because she's a human (youkai have an excuse for being youkai). There is not a thing about her that's heroic, or good. Of course, I guess that what makes her such a disgustingly popular character. But Dash gave no second thought to saving Rarity, she was willing to stand up for Fluttershy's honor, she made up with Applejack after their mutual friction in the Fall race, she ended up turning down the ticket. She's not perfect, but she's far better than Marisa, which is why she doesn't fit as Marisa. I guess one could argue even Twilight doesn't really fit, since while Reimu isn't attached to others, Twilight tends to be (the magic of friendship and all). However, she's a closer fit to Reimu than Dash is to Marisa. Maybe Marisa should be Trixie? Even that's a bit of a stretch, but it might be a better analog. |
| HakureiIllusion #338262 11 months ago |
Damn, where were all the Twilight/Reimu arguers when I made those Hisoutensoku palettes? I could've used your help explaining that one. >_>
As for Dash and Marisa... Dash is brash, foolish, overly confident, loud, prone to lying, and the fanon-designated queen lesbian. So she fits Marisa quite well. ...In case you couldn't tell, I don't like Dash and Marisa much. But still, even their good points match up just as well. They're normally carefree, yet serious when it's required. Dudemang mentioned how Dash saved Rarity, protected Fluttershy, and made up with Applejack; similarly, Marisa will always protect humans, is one of the few character's who has EVER been nice to Cirno, and usually ends up becoming friends with whoever she and Reimu decide to kick the crap out of this time. And maybe she fits Trixie too, but to a lesser extent. Marisa makes it quite clear that she's Reimu's #2. Though Marisa wasn't always like that. She was much different in the first five games; a lot girlier, nicer, and not as violent. When Mima disappeared, Marisa must've decided to adopt all of Mima's worst personality traits or something. |
| dudemang #338379 11 months ago |
"Dash is... prone to lying"
How so? The only time I remember her outright lying was to keep Pinkie Pie out of the loop for her surprise party. "But still, even their good points match up just as well." Dash isn't a kleptomaniac. That sets her above. "Marisa makes it quite clear that she's Reimu's #2." Neither Dash nor Trixie would settle for being less than the best. I'm sorry, I still see their differences more than their similarities. It's easy to generalize under basic character archetypes (neither Dash nor Marisa are incredibly feminine, though methinks Dash could still out-girl her anyday*), but ultimately, I think certain character traits can make or break this kind of comparison. Dash, to me, comes across as a far better, and if nothing else, different person than Marisa. Twilight would probably be friendlier than Reimu, but I could see them both taking it easy and not minding people hanging out with them while doing so. *said at the risk of sounding incredibly sexist while not meaning to be |
| Ponymaru #338510 11 months ago |
I don't particularly care about the matchups. I just love how much raw win this picture contains. |
| HakureiIllusion #338716 11 months ago |
^^
"The only time I remember her outright lying was to keep Pinkie Pie out of the loop for her surprise party." There have been other times, and even when she isn't flat out lying, her stories are full of exaggeration and embellishment. "Dash isn't a kleptomaniac. That sets her above." And Marisa isn't as rude to everyone she meets. Of course they'll outshine the other in certain areas. I'm not saying they have to match up 100%, but they certainly are very similar. "Neither Dash nor Trixie would settle for being less than the best." I was referring to how she ISN'T like Trixie. And Dash's hero worship of the Wonderbolts certainly makes her come across as a (willing) #2. |
| dudemang #338924 11 months ago |
"There have been other times, and even when she isn't flat out lying, her stories are full of exaggeration and embellishment."
Give me an example. I seriously can't think of anything notable off the top of my head, and I'm not about to go sift through 26 episodes of pony. "And Marisa isn't as rude to everyone she meets." Maybe not in the "SHE KINDA IS" brutal honesty, but she basically smarts off to anyone and everyone, even to the Highest Judge of Paradise, and then she tells the shrine maiden that the eternal night is all Alice's fault (a lie) and that she should get out of her way (putting it mildly). :/ "I'm not saying they have to match up 100%, but they certainly are very similar." Not similar enough. I kinda think one of them being an insane kleptomaniac tends to pretty much divide them. I don't see Dash going into the Moriya shrine to loot it (and get properly wrung out for it). There's other things, too. Rainbow Dash has no qualms about saying she's the best flier, it's not merely talk, she can back it up, and (usually) not come across as a jerk like Trixie. Marisa insists that she's ordinary, but she is basically the most powerful human in Gensokyo, able to, on occasion, hold her ground with Reimu. And I'm not about to chalk that up to being humble, not with Marisa. Dash is perhaps a bit more laid-back and lazy (and still very skilled), whereas Marisa is specifically a hard worker as a constrast to Reimu's inborn divine talent. Not to mention that Marisa steals a good deal of her techniques while Dash seems to invent hers. In another contrasting bit, Marisa is a shut-in researcher of magic, not unlike Twilight, and Dash is an athlete. "Dash's hero worship of the Wonderbolts certainly makes her come across as a (willing) #2" I think it means she wants to become like the best fliers in the world, i.e. #1. She wants to join the Wonderbolts, the best of the best. Marisa is content with knowing that her hard work always seems to fall short of Reimu's talent, though she keeps seeking new magical power anyhow. Ultimately, however, I think we're straying from what was essentially my initial objection: I don't think the analog jives. In many ways, I can see halfway how Twilight could be like Reimu (tremendous in-born talent/power, values either books or taking it easy over people/ponies, solves incidents, pretty mellow unless it's a dangerous situation) but even then, maybe she's more like Patchy. But I just can't see Marisa as Rainbow Dash outside of their unfeminine personalities. One's just a supposedly plain magician that resorts to brawn and takes everything she can get her hands on, being a nuisance to many people and nevertheless saving Gensokyo, and the other's Equestria's greatest flier, a brave pony with rough edges and something of a hard-nosed side to her on occasion. A bad person that has some good qualities to her and a good pony that has some bad qualities to her. To me, they're incontrovertibly different. |
| Anonymous #339587 11 months ago |
You guys are all omega babbies. |
| Anonymous #339604 11 months ago |
Trixie is closer to Windows Marisa. |
| HakureiIllusion #341632 11 months ago |
"Give me an example. I seriously can't think of anything notable off the top of my head, and I'm not about to go sift through 26 episodes of pony."
First episode for instance (well, second actually), when the Shadowbolts are talking to her. She's quick to paint herself as the best and fastest, and an excellent leader. "and then she tells the shrine maiden that the eternal night is all Alice's fault (a lie) and that she should get out of her way (putting it mildly). :/" That in particular was Reimu being... well, Reimu. Unreasonable. She wasn't gonna let it go until one of them admitted to it. "Marisa insists that she's ordinary, but she is basically the most powerful human in Gensokyo, able to, on occasion, hold her ground with Reimu." That's the thing; she IS ordinary. She lacks Reimu's natural-born talent, nor the innate magical abilities that Youkai have. She's an ordinary human; she just worked ridiculously hard and had an incredibly good teacher. As for Twilight/Patchouli, I've never seen any similarities beyond the fact that they're both bookworms and have similar color themes. Twilight was antisocial at first, but they were different types of antisocial; Twilight hated pretty much everyone around her, while Patchouli simply likes being alone. Anyway, this has become more of an interpretation of Marisa than an argument for comparison, so I'll stop here. @Anon339587: A connected series of statements intended to establish a definite proposition. This is how adults argue. You could learn a thing or two. @Anon339604: Eh, not so much. Marisa is actually talented enough to back up her claims, and while Trixie lies to make herself seem awesome, Marisa generally lies for the lulz. |
| dudemang #343184 11 months ago |
^"First episode for instance (well, second actually), when the Shadowbolts are talking to her. She's quick to paint herself as the best and fastest, and an excellent leader."
That was the Shadowbolt's flattering and her sucking it up - not really a lie on Dash's part, it's what she thinks of herself. And to be honest, I'm not even sure her being the best, fastest, or capable leader is a lie at all - she's recognized as Equestria's best young flier and she led the Ponyville pegasi during Winter Wrap-Up (I think?). "That in particular was Reimu being... well, Reimu. Unreasonable. She wasn't gonna let it go until one of them admitted to it. " Marisa's still by and large a smart-aleck and a kleptomaniac. "That's the thing; she IS ordinary. She lacks Reimu's natural-born talent, nor the innate magical abilities that Youkai have. She's an ordinary human; she just worked ridiculously hard and had an incredibly good teacher." I guess it depends on what one means by ordinary. I don't think most humans hole themselves up in the Forest of Magic and study obsessively. That's an extraordinary virtue of hard work (and probably Marisa's only redeeming quality). Maybe it's just semantics, I don't know. "As for Twilight/Patchouli, I've never seen any similarities beyond the fact that they're both bookworms and have similar color themes." And they're both magic users and they're both considered physically weak and they're both pretty snarky at times (referring to Sakuya as a cat or a human is within 'the margin of error', according to Patch). You can generalize them together to a very large degree. "Twilight was antisocial at first, but they were different types of antisocial; Twilight hated pretty much everyone around her, while Patchouli simply likes being alone." As an introvert, I resent the notion that Twilight 'hated' everyone around her. Not having dealings with others does not equate to hate. It meant she was more interested in books than ponies. She doesn't/didn't care for socializing. But I think they both like being alone, but they are willing to open themselves up on occasion. Twilight likes the Ponyville Ponies and the Mane Six even if she does spend most of her time in the library. Patchy and Remi are close friends even though Patchy just likes to read. "Marisa is actually talented enough to back up her claims..." At the risk of sounding pedantic, she's more skilled than talented, because it's a result of hard work. Then again, probably just semantics. |
| dudemang #343191 11 months ago |
^And they're both magic users and they're both considered physically weak and they're both pretty snarky at times (referring to Sakuya as a cat or a human is within 'the margin of error', according to Patch). You can generalize them together to a very large degree, but I agree in that it's still not a perfect comparison.
Didn't finish my thought. |
| Anonymous #352980 11 months ago |
With Twilight like this, I could DEFINATELY see her as Stocking from PSG, too. |
| Noiko_Imura #409380 11 months ago |
Small comment to balance things out. |
| Anonymous #952350 5 months ago |
All the comments are TL;DR |
| Anonymous #1044743 4 months ago |
Classic Twilight as PC-98 Reimu
Firefly as PC-98 Marisa |