
| AdrianBrony #306603 1 year ago |
don't mind me, just over-analyzing everything again. |
| AdrianBrony #306609 1 year ago |
and now I see all the typos that are too late to fix. |
| Pony_with_no_name #306614 1 year ago |
*clap clap clap* That was a wonderful read, thank you for sharing that! |
| AdrianBrony #306633 1 year ago |
#306614
Thanks. I know people might consider me using lyra and bon bon a copout of sorts, but really I wanted to balance canon with fanon, and those two are the only shipping that is so agreed upon by most people who ship, it's probably more accurate to just consider it fanon. and now I need to pass out because it is really late. |
| Lockstep #306663 1 year ago |
Agape seems more subject to conditions than the others--it's not something you recognize in yourself or others until it is displayed.
I might even go so far as to say that it is less its own category than a proof for the other three. True friends or lovers are are willing to, and do, make sacrifices for the others' sakes, whereas unwillingness to sacrifice may mean that the love is not there. Agape really stands on its own when it's displayed between strangers. It could be argued, however, that Storge can encompass those strangers if expanded to include one's community and countrymen, humanity, or even all living beings. A person who displays Agape for a stranger may just inherently feel Storge toward them. |
| Anonymous #306666 1 year ago |
This is wonderful and informative. Excellent job.
I see no reason why Lyra and Bonbon should be a cop-out. The only canon couple in the series is Mr. and Mrs. Cake, but Lyra and Bonbon are far more popular with fans, which makes them the more compelling example. |
| Anonymous #306673 1 year ago |
^^ Agape really is unique since it can be combined with any of the other three, but you can have any of the other three without it. Also, you can have Agape WITHOUT any of the other three. |
| Anonymous #306678 1 year ago |
Just for future reference:
it's = it is The one and only exception to this rule is if It is a given name (like Cousin It). Otherwise, no exceptions. |
| Anonymous #306830 1 year ago |
So basically, Fluttershy is Jesus. |
| AshesOfSaturn #306982 1 year ago |
The church I went to when I was little was big on talking about this exact subject, but somehow continuously neglected to mention the connection to C.S. Lewis, which makes it even more interesting to me that it already was. |
| Lockstep #307633 1 year ago |
@6673: What I was trying to say was that maybe you can't have any of the other three without Agape. Are you really friends with someone, or do you really love them, if you aren't willing to sacrifice something for them? Sacrifice isn't always about risking one's life or safety, mind you. If you're not willing to inconvenience yourself for another's sake, can you honestly say that you love them? I don't think so.
And I touched on why Agape may not stand alone in my last comment regarding Storge. |
| Lockstep #307649 1 year ago |
Oh, and @6678: It's can be "it has," too. |
| Lancer #307757 1 year ago |
C.S. Lewis was an extraordinary scholar and writer, and his short book "Mere Christianity" contains more and better-reasoned information than a lifetime of church sermons, but the words he was describing were older than he. They came from ancient Greece. Parts of the New Testament of the Bible were originally written in Greek, after all.
Here's a link to Wikipedia as an example: "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_words_for_love" @Anon6830: What makes Jesus different is not agape love, but its source and cause. |
| AdrianBrony #307809 1 year ago |
#307757
if you read my entry on agape, I made note of the fact that all but storge were derived from the new testament |
| AdrianBrony #307929 1 year ago |
the difference between agape and just willing to make sacrifices is that Agape is also unconditional. if your friend were to start treating you like a jerk, things would change, even if you were willing to have inconveniences for him. if there was Agape, his actions would not eliminate it. |
| Anonymous #530665 9 months ago |
I for one would've used Mr. and Mrs. Cake for eros, but that's just me. I mean, they are married and all. |