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Anonymous
#591256
9 months ago
I like celestia/trollestia now more...
togashimenai
#591262
9 months ago
Okay, I cannot BELIEVE I'm defending Celestia, but here goes.

We don't know WHERE Luna has been since she was redeemed. We also don't know how LONG it's been since then. Since this show is asynchronous, this episode could be chronologically a week after their battle.

With THAT being said, it seems a little trollish to let Luna attend a "We fear Nightmare Moon" celebration with absolutely no explanation of what to expect.
OHMURR
#591269
9 months ago
^for the exact same reason she told twilight to go make friends in the first season instead of saying anything about nmm. celestia knows everything would work out
Rarit_E
#591275
9 months ago
@ toga

Why so serious? :P
YoyoTripleThree
#591279
9 months ago
^ Sure, I guess that's one of the benefits of being a god. Still doesn't make it any less dickish though.
YoyoTripleThree
#591282
9 months ago
^^* That comment was directed at OHMURR.
togashimenai
#591310
9 months ago
@Rarit_E. Serious? I LOVE being serious about things that shouldn't be taken seriously! It's fun! Also, Celestia bashing is about the only political common ground that my friends and I can agree on! We still love 'er, though!

Oh, wait ... I guess I'm being overly serious about your comment about how serious I am, since you probably weren't serious. Hmmm.
imnotgivingmynametoamachine
#591334
9 months ago
^we need to go deeper...
pineapplejoe
#591345
9 months ago
^ no, not just that, we need to go derper.
Vree
#591371
9 months ago
OK, this is true (I hated that Luna's basically worse than Twilight, c'mon, not knowing "fun", seriously?), but all these images blaming Celestia are silly.
WildHeart
#591735
9 months ago
^ I like to imagine she spent the year relearning the language.

Middle English, for example, was so far different from Modern English that it was practically a completely different language. Maybe the princess simply didn't know the word fun in modern...Equestrian?
Chrono_Ryono
#591991
9 months ago
She didn't seem familiar with the concept of "fun" fullstop.

"Your princess enjoys this... fun. In what other ways may we experience it?"

She's probably just always been the serious type. They defeated Discord, then had to take control of the kingdom he left behind. Read: they came straight out of a crapsack world and had to fix it.

Who knows how much time passed between then and the whole NMM thing, but she's still speaking like an extremely formal royal, so she was obviously already conducting herself that way.

The wall banger, at least to me, is how despite living with Celestia for damn near a year* she never once realised that her sister doesn't use the Royal Canterlot Voice anymore, or that nopony is using "thou" and such. I can forgive this to an extent by guessing she hasn't left the castle since she came back from the moon, but still.

*It's at least 6 months. The show starts in summer and we've seen winter come and go.
Anonymous
#592024
9 months ago
Oh come on, she was just back after being in the moon for a thousand years, the poor dear probably needed some time alone for a while.
BK_Leonidas
#592289
9 months ago
Exactly my thoughts when the episode ended. Did anyone in the castle during her year-long recovery from being stuck in lunar confinement bring her up to speed on the new ways of pony life?
Wyrm
#592385
9 months ago
"Luna Eclipsed" was at least half a year after "The Elements of Harmony," because being the longest day of the year, the Summer Sun Celebration takes place on the summer solstice, while Halloween/Nightmare Night takes place after the autumn equinox, about half a year later. So this is at least three months later.

Of course, I'm making heavy assumptions here that 1 Equestrian year = 1 Earth year.
Wyrm
#592386
9 months ago
*quarter year
Anonymous
#592748
9 months ago
THe evidence for Celestia being an asshole is mounting...
Drasvin
#592962
9 months ago
As has been mentioned, we can not be completely certain how long after the summer solstice the episode takes place, so it might be reasonable for Luna to still be getting caught up. 1000 is a long time for things to change. Her first priority would have been to get herself emotionally stable. After that she would have to have gotten caught up on her royal duties and the political situation of the world, as she's going to be expected to step back into her old position as Princess of the Night as soon as she is able. Her speech patterns might be archaic, but they're still understandable. And the TRADITIONAL ROYAL CANTERLOT VOICE might still be used by Celestia on occasion. Luna states that it's meant for addressing subjects, and having a loud booming voice would certainly be useful for addressing a large audience from the balcony. And a royal having a powerful voice makes their nation look powerful, so there's that as well.

As for Luna not knowing what fun is, that's a horrible cliche, one that made me groan. Though Chrono_Ryono's explanation does make sense. Unfortantely it does imply that the Nightmare Rebellion wasn't too long after they took down Discord. Long enough to start to get into the swing of things, but before everything could be stabilized, worked out, and settled down. Before the Sisters got a chance to take a break and relax. Which feeds into explanation of why Luna rebelled. Fixing a crapsack world and getting a country running from virtually nothing is going to be tiring and stressful. Makes the perceived fact that nopony appreciated her hard-work hurt all the more. Also explains why Celestia didn't stop to help her sister. She would have been just as busy, tired, and stressed as Luna was. Just Celestia got to see happy ponies, while Luna got to watch ponies sleep the night away.
togashimenai
#593295
9 months ago
Drasvin, I'm going to agree with you 100% for a change! I also groaned about the whole "what is fun" thing. They could have easily given her outdated concepts of how to HAVE fun, but to deny her the concept all together? That seems to be a stretch.
Spitfire
#593307
9 months ago
I'm tempted to say that it's possible Luna got her own castle after returning, and that's why we never saw her in the season 2 openers and she had her own chariot, but I'm probably wrong.
togashimenai
#593457
9 months ago
Well, there IS the Two Sister's castle in the Everfree Forest. Maybe she's been fixing that old place up. Not a lot of social interaction to be had in THAT place. Okay, there's Zecora, but SHE'S not going to help with modern speaking skills!
Drasvin
#702385
8 months ago
I know this discussion is a bit old, but hey, why not...

@togashi Just recently(okay, not too recently, it was back near when the Nightmare Night ep came out) learned something. The word fun is only about 300 years old in our world. So it's possible that what was confusing Luna wasn't the concept but the word itself and the fact that she probably wouldn't be very familiar with the entertainment of commoners. The entertainment she would be familiar with would be more high class stuff, like plays and concerts.
togashimenai
#1228570
3 months ago
So, you're saying that she's been a "sheltered royal" her entire life? Hmm ... yeah, that sounds reasonable.