
| nemryn #488937 10 months ago |
The gun is now flowers! |
| BlastingGravy #488943 10 months ago |
I love Smartie Belle. It's nice to finally see someone who actually understands what Discord's influence actually does. |
| GreyAcumane #488945 10 months ago |
I don't think it's the best Smartie Belle I've done. Part of it was rushing to get this done before Episode 2, part of it is that I'm using Gimp to do my recent editing, until I can find my PS discs to fix my installation. |
| Anonymous #488955 10 months ago |
inb4 sweetiepoo edit |
| Wyrm #488964 10 months ago |
*Snicker* |
| TinTwit #488973 10 months ago |
I love this. So much. |
| Anonymous #488982 10 months ago |
lol @ nemryn |
| Anonymous #488991 10 months ago |
I was like "oh boy, tl;dr rant disguised as a comic" until Discord showed up. Then I was like :D
And then the last panel I was like :DDDD |
| Marrock #489054 10 months ago |
That last panel made my day for me. |
| Silversoul666 #489079 10 months ago |
Is still a rant disguised as a comic to try and pin non-canon attributes to a character.
A rant because it makes a point to complain about the other jokes the author dislikes. I'll give Sweetie Belle is not dumb at all in the series, but this is going overboard. Also, can't stand those shotgun jokes. What will you do if I don't laugh? Shoot me? @Blasting: Wait? where was officially explained what Discord's influence does? Did you mean to say "Finally, someone who sees Discord's influence the same way as me?" |
| Anonymous #489106 10 months ago |
The "Sweetie Belle is dumb" meme was destroyed by canon at the start of the latest episode. Only she knows what is and is not a word. |
| Jackarunda #489109 10 months ago |
i love these things |
| GreyAcumane #489117 10 months ago |
Silversoul, since this comic was apparently a little too deep for you, I'll spell it out;
Smartie Belle has been discordified, so instead of using her intelligence to reduce the effects of trolling and quell arguments, and practicing proper gun safety, she's specifically letting herself get riled up even at merely perceived slights and using her gun as the immediate solution to problems. (in the original comic suggesting the tags, she was using non-lethal rounds that were purely for tagging purposes) As Smartie Belle explained herself, it's her personality that has been altered, not her intelligence, and the part of her personality that has been changed is her tolerance. |
| Anonymous #489149 10 months ago |
Hehehehe... Oh LOL... XD |
| Van_Horsing #489168 10 months ago |
Grey, I think it's obvious that Silver was not in any way confused about the comic's meaning. It is also obvious that your retaliation stems from anger toward the criticizing of an opinion you share, and not a well-intentioned clarification. You would do well to think twice before attempting to insult again. |
| GreyAcumane #489267 10 months ago |
@Van_Helsing - What am I supposed to be retaliating against?
Claim 1; it's a rant disguised as a comic - wrong, it's a comic that involves an intelligent character who is discordant, and because of the change of personality, ranting instead of trying to create harmony. Claim 2; pinning non-canon attributes to a character - again, wrong. This is specifically tagged as "Smartie_Belle" and has even specified herself as such in the original tagging comic she is referencing in the first panel. Since Smartie Belle constantly addresses ponibooru directly, she is already either out of character, or only in character as much as being a an actor on the show, and this would be her "offstage" persona. claim 3; "makes a point to complain about the other jokes the author dislikes" - even more wrong than anything else said so far. Though it is true that I inject a lot of myself into the Smartie Belle persona, the rant itself is taken from the perspective of HER complaints about the jokes SHE dislikes. Is it really that odd for someone intelligent to find jokes that make her out to be a moron to be annoying? especially when they have had all their tolerance removed? claim 4; Sweetie Belle is not dumb, but this is going overboard - I suppose you're also going to complain about trollestia, cupcakes, and (retarded) derpy hooves next? claim 5; "what will you do if I don't laugh, shoot me?" - again wrong. This is another aspect of the discordant personality deal and becoming intolerant. claim 6; "did you mean to say 'finally, someone who sees discord's influence the same way as me?'" - even this was wrong. simple observation can show that the intelligence of the ponies remained unaltered, but only their personalities had been affected. On what point was Silversoul NOT confused? |
| Anonymous #489286 10 months ago |
Jokes are like magic. You really shouldn't need to explain shit. |
| Xuncu #489288 10 months ago |
And Shootie Belle takes the gold! |
| GreyAcumane #489322 10 months ago |
I'm currently referring to her as Sweetie_Bang. I might have an aversion to Shootie_Belle just because it sounds too close to Shitty_Belle. |
| Anonymous #489855 10 months ago |
No, its obviously Sweetie-Boom, because "That is her Boomstick!" |
| Silversoul666 #490075 10 months ago |
@Grey:
Answer 1 - You just admitted Belle is rantig. But many character rant, so whats the problem? The prblem is, she us ranting AT US. Not like a character in a show. Answer 2 - So you mean she is not Sweetie Belle, but a character you made in the other comic. So, my bad. You are not trying to pin non-canon attributes on Sweetie Belle, since this is not her. Answer 3 - So you created a charater that rants about things SHE dislikes, and its' not you rant since you are not your own character and her ideas and action do not, in any way, reflect you own ideas and opinions. Clever, sir. Clever. Answer 4 - Overdboard as in, too intelligent to like. But this time, I admit, that is tottally personal taste, so the fault would be with me. Answer 5 - So anything that sounds wrong now can be blamed on Discord? answer 6 - That one wasn't even directed at you and I didn't even mention intellegence there. You changed what I said to be able to give an easy answer. That one was about Discord's effects. Gravi said "someone who understand what Discord's influence actually does." But that is not correct. That is one way to understand his powers. Can actually be right, but is still not set in stone. |
| zralf #490119 10 months ago |
lol didin't read ! |
| Anonymous #490138 10 months ago |
these sure are way more clever than sweetie belle shitting herself |
| Anonymous #490694 10 months ago |
Shootie Belle/Sweetie Bang/Sweetie Boom: "Say hello to my little friend." |
| GreyAcumane #490891 10 months ago |
@Silversoul, I'm going to address these a little out of order:
Point 2- You seem to be under the impression that I created this character. I didn't. Technically the "Creator" is someone called "Tess" as you can see for yourself here >>55893, which you could have easily found yourself simply by searching for the Smartie_Belle tag. I thought you already knew, since you mentioned the shotgun that appeared in the original comic I put together for Smartie_Belle and that did link back to Tess's image. By her very nature she is essentially a rebuttal to the Sweetiedumb and, inclusively, the Shitty_Belle memes. While she is not explicitly canon-sweetiebelle, she is also not explicitly NOT canon-sweetiebelle either. Maybe she acts different around her sister and friends, maybe she acts different while wearing glasses, maybe this is later in her life than what you see on the show, maybe this is the "actor" persona to the character portrayed in the series, maybe it's an alternate reality character, maybe it's how her character would react if she had access to the internet and has become jaded by how her character has been fanoned, maybe it is any or all of the above. That doesn't need to be explained, as it only cuts of potential directions this portrayal could be taken. However all that Tess created was that individual panel on its own. I took that character, as presented by Tess, and ran with it, because there's a sore lack of content where Sweetie Belle isn't a moron, especially when compared to how much content that exists where she is. Every single permutation you see of that character in this comic and the others I've uploaded have been edited by me from that original panel. Admittedly, I probably should have sourced Tess, but I was A) in a rush to get this out before Episode 2, so that "discordant" characters are still as topical as possible, B) using multiple different pieces of artwork, of which Tess is not responsible for everything, and C) It's not like I'm putting an "Artist:GreyAcumane" tag on this either, and anyone who does a search for "Smartie_Belle" will still see Tess's comic as the earliest iteration and that has proper credit. Point 1 & 3 - Don't be ridiculous. Every character in existence is going to reflect whoever is writing their lines in some manner. You can't reasonably whitewash every opinion voiced by a character as being nothing more than a mouthpiece for the writer. In this particular case, someone mentioned "oh, smartie belle is smart because of discord" and I thought "how would this Smartie Belle react to that? and also, what WOULD being discordant do to her personality?" So yeah, her reaction might reflect my ideas and opinions, but it's still her rant, and at that, only her rant because she's become discordant. And of course she's going to rant "at us." Every comic I've done before this has been addressed to Ponibooru, with complete 4th wall breakage and acknowledgement of her existence as a character. I chose to do this primarily because it allows me to more fully utilized the ways in which I can pose her, and also so that I didn't have to bring in other characters and decide how closely they should stay or deviate from canon, especially since the only real purpose to the Smartie Belle meme is to establish her intelligence and hopefully include some sort of humorous exchange. Why should that suddenly stop for this comic? Ultimately, the only reason I can see for why you would even question this comic and try to label it as a rant is because you personally don't like the content of the rant, but why would you try to question it on those grounds when it's already established, from within the comic itself and in my comments, that Smartie Belle is ranting due to her discordant state? Unless you are improperly using the term "rant" to cover ALL of the comics in which she has more than 1 line of monolog, in which case, god help you reading through everything I've posted here, and also; suck it up unless you're going to do a better job at presenting Smartie Belle in an entertaining manner. Point 4 - It's only partially personal taste that makes her too intelligent to like. Part of the humor stems specifically from how obscenely elitist she is in her own intelligence, which was established back from Tess's original panel where she was tossing A+ papers back like they were junk, and how that contrasts against the usual fare of Sweetie Belle being fanon'd as a moron. Point 6 - I didn't change anything you said, and while it wasn't officially explained, it was officially DEMONSTRATED. Discord = not working together. Applejack is normally honest, discord made her lie, Pinky normally can find humor in anything, now she hates and is suspicious of all jokes, Rarity is usually generous, now she's selfish, Fluttershy is usually nice, now she's bitchy, Dash usually is loyal, now she's abandoning her friends, all of which interferes with each of them acting in harmony with each other, but has shown no effects on their intelligence. It also hasn't made them into murderers, rapists, or torturers. This is the standard by which I decided how Smartie Belle's personality should be altered, and Blasting pointed out the accuracy to what the show demonstrates. You questioned it on the basis that it's not really established unless someone in the show specifically tells you what all his powers are, which wont happen, since the only one who knows for certain is him, and he has no issues lying, so the only accurate manner to gauge what his powers are is by what he demonstrates. Even beyond this, while he may have other powers than just that, it doesn't matter, because the comic itself is specifically referring to that discordant state as shown in the series thus far. Point 5 - Smartie Belle has thus far been shown as annoyed by, but tolerant of, all the various Sweetiedumb and Sweetiepoo/Shittie Belle memes, and rather than trying to stomp them out she has offered a way by which people can organize this content to encourage better quality and reduce the trolling effect on the people who didn't like them. Even when she "shot" Super Sweetiepoo, she was only tagging her, and it was still the same gun in the last panel, so even the implied "threat"(that was really only included for humor) was still just the threat of tagging whoever didn't listen so they could also be ignored. Following the same guidelines, she would have those aspects of her personality that are geared towards harmony altered when she has been discordified. You can tell that she is in a discordant state by how her color has been desaturated from the norm, the same as the mane cast from the show, and that Discord shows up and puts her under the same rules as the other ponies in the first episode, and if that wasn't enough, the tag "Discordant_Sweetie_Belle" should help clue people in. So I don't know what all you're including in that general sweeping phrase of "everything that seems wrong" but those aspects where she is ranting and using her gun to threaten instead of trying to reason are tied to her discordant state, as I've established in multiple comments now, and as can be observed by comparing the lack of rant and way in which she uses the gun/doesn't use it at all in previous comics where she has not been discordified, compared to how she rants and uses her gun in this comic where she has been. Whatever reasons you have for not wanting to believe this are pretty much your own personal biases. TL;DR - accept the comic at face value and stop trying to read more into it than there is. Smartie Belle is smart and skilled with firearms because it contrasts in a humorous manner with how fanon usually represents her as an incompetent moron. She's ranting and abusing those firearms in this particular comic because she's been influenced by discord, and its humorous because discord is receiving the backlash from something he is directly responsible for. |
| dzamie #492324 10 months ago |
How the heck is she holding that, and I wouldn't think that hooves are ideal for pulling the trigger. |
| Anonymous #1491699 5 days ago |
^^
We are seeing it at face value, and what we see is an author mouthpiece verbally and physically abusing a strawman, and an author verbally abusing someone who pointed out the former, even though he himself admitted it was a "rebuttal", because hs is so cripplingly offended that he can't talk straight. |