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Impulse
#604668
9 months ago
What? Nyx isn't liked because she is an OC, and as everyone knows, OC's suck.
Bronyboy
#604673
9 months ago
They're both adorable.
Poptard
#604677
9 months ago
What is this hatred thing, and why am i not seeing it?
Anonymous
#604678
9 months ago
I like Pipsqueak.
This is coming from a guy who wants to punch people with British accents in the face.
Right_Infinity
#604682
9 months ago
@Impulse.

Your Thoughts on background ponies then?
NotAPseudonym
#604699
9 months ago
@604678 Real British accents? Or just the stereotypical over-the-top ones?
Anonymous
#604707
9 months ago
Pips is cute. Nyx is just a mary sue.
Anonymous
#604711
9 months ago
^The latter.
Anonymous
#604720
9 months ago
Yeah, I had a feeling Pipsqueak was probably going to become the new Nyx.
TheXIIILightning
#604724
9 months ago
OC's DO NOT suck!

I don't Like or Dislike Nyx, for me the only thing that matters, is that the OC has a likable personality.

And that is proving to be quite harder than I thought, writing a Random/Comedy FanFic that's not Mary Sue or something like that is challenging...

Writing is hard ;_;
But Fun ^^
Anonymous
#604739
9 months ago
Are you serious? Come on, Pipsqueak has no hate.
Anonymous
#604747
9 months ago
Actually...

There's something to this.

You know what makes your average Original Character annoying beyond their bad designs? It's how they're just suddenly inserted into the lives of characters we've already grown fond of as if they belong.

Pip shows up in much the same way, everyone just sort of smiling, nodding, and accepting him as though he were always there even though we know he's some odd new addition. He doesn't earn his way, instead he plays a role in Nightmare Night that might normally have gone to a more established character like Applebloom.

In fact, the CMC sort of went through this when they first got introduced. We'd had quite a few episodes to get attached to the mane cast, then suddenly a bunch of kids show up and hog the spotlight when all we wanted was more Twilight, Pinkie, Fluttershy, etc.

So my guess is that like the CMC there's going to be a period where he feels like an invader, hogging the spotlight, but so long as he gets some good scenes in later appearances he'll grow on us.
Tomaster
#604752
9 months ago
#604739
Yes. Yes he does.
Fantastic
#604767
9 months ago
Impulse knows what's up.
Erroneous
#604771
9 months ago
Hey, you guys ever notice? That posting things like these only amplify the hate in the first place, and that if these kind of things weren't posted about Nyx, or Pipsqueak, there would be not enough hate to be noticed?

But by posting these kind of things you allow people to be aware of hate that wasn't originally there, which only adds to the hate love spectrum, as people think they have to choose a side based on these discussions. This starts a vicious cycle that increases both the love and the hate.

Also I love both Past Sins and Luna Eclipsed, and I am impartial to both Nyx and to Pipsqueak. I agree that Past Sins focused a bit TOO much on Nyx, moreso than other characters, but it was still a good fic, and she doesn't deserve the hate she received, and while the fic might have deserved the popularity, she didn't. :/ (Also a mary sue defines a character with poorly explained, massive powers with little drawbacks and no personality for no reason. She had massive powers that were explained, had potentially dangerous drawbacks, and gained a personality throughout the story, as she had no memories to base a personality on in the beginning. So she doesn't deserve to be called a Sue. That much at least.)
Anonymous
#604799
9 months ago
The way I see this...

For Nyx, there were a lot of people who hated her, about the same number who loved her and the group where I belong who simple didn't care.

Now for Pip, there were quite a few people who liked him, about the same who disliked him, but the majority of the people, me included, were too busy drooling over every second of screen-time that Luna got to notice some jumpy kid with a rubber sword bouncing around...

Nyx was to us as Boxxy was to 4chan and the internet as a whole and Pip was more of a that guy that keeps saying 'Ancient Aliens' sure he's funny and annoying, but nobody really cares...
Anonymous
#604825
9 months ago
At least Pony OCs aren't fucking 'lost offspring/adopted brotheror sister omg' recolors like in the Sonic fanbase.

And hell, if Pipsqueak was invented to be an OC instead of being an official, people would hate HIM instead of Nyx. He literally appeared out of fucking nowhere just like any OC and people are like DAAAAWWW, as opposed to Nyx, JUST because he's actually in the show.
Impulse
#604857
9 months ago
@Right_Infinity They appear on the show, thus canon. I'm still not sure about their personalities though.
Mojo
#604882
9 months ago
Cloudy_with_a_chance_of_shitstorms

best Tag ever.
Imdumb
#604930
9 months ago
I like Nyx and Pipsqueak. Not gonna get started on Nyx, but I haven't seen much pipsqueak hate.
Van_Horsing
#604956
9 months ago
Erroneous, "Mary Sue" is a community-defined term. If the majority of people think your character is a Sue, it's a Sue.

Also, in what way am I "amplifying hate" by posting this image? I saw an interesting consistency and pointed it out. I am in no way asking people to "choose a side".
Impulse
#604972
9 months ago
^Otherwise it was cool, but you should have also pointed out that Nyx is NOT CANON while Pip is.
DatBrony
#604994
9 months ago
I don't like him. Dunno why, maybe because he's just new and I don't want to accept it or whathefuckever. I don't like him. I can deal with him, but don't like him.
Anonymous
#604996
9 months ago
Was I the only one who noticed that Twilight did'nt
give Pipsqueak any candy?
Cause she did'nt, watch the scene again.
And you'll see.

Oh and, nice comparison pic.
Anonymous
#605010
9 months ago
One is a mary-sue, the other isn't.

Theory crushed. Move along people.
HeinousActsZX
#605101
9 months ago
I'm only here for my obligatory comment because it's a Pipsqueak pic.
Oh, and I liked Past Sins.
Wyrm
#605102
9 months ago
^Have a problem reading, do you? The OP asked why Nyx and Pip evoked the same general reaction, which can only be explained by a similarity, not a difference.
Wyrm
#605108
9 months ago
^ Damn ^^
Anonymous
#605188
9 months ago
well... let's ship them XD
Erroneous
#605369
9 months ago
@Van_Horsing, I'm not saying your point does it exactly, I'm saying mostly posts that outline hatred on this site add to the hatred by making people aware of it, and that makes the people who love or like the characters fight back harder. Which makes it seem like people are fighting between the extreme ends of the spectrum.

Sorry if I sounded aggressive or something. If I did it was purely accidental
Anonymous
#605463
9 months ago
Impulse is probably forgetting Fallout Equestria...
Anonymous
#605491
9 months ago
It's not a real shitstorm until Vore in involved!
MetalHooves
#605527
9 months ago
I never read Past Sins, but Nyx has been described as a Mary Sue more often than not; I'll not fault the writer for that just yet, as having ONE original character be the central piece of a fanfic makes it a pretty big target for a lot of hate. I'm a writer, I know.

I just think Pip is fucking adorable. He's so goddamn cute I wanna hug the shit outta him.
Anonymous
#605607
9 months ago
It's not because they are small and different, it's because people think they're annoying and dumb.
SakuraAyanami
#606040
9 months ago
Pasts Sins wasn't a bad fic but it kind of sways to the Mary Sue way. The problem with Nyx comes at the half of the fic were it focus only (and only) on her for more chapters than needed. Then, wile still focusing on her, everything is resolved thanks to her and the interaction with the other characters is only to support her character development.

Wile I indeed enjoy the fist part of the story when she was a filly, it kind got dull and sometimes annoying after that part. True to be told I think the story would have been better without a big and bad villain
devour
#606669
9 months ago
Fuck you guys I like both of them! *Jumps out of window*
Some_Anon
#606723
9 months ago
Let me sum it up for you, guys, while simultaneously looking like a dick.

Background ponies are like theoretical communism, everyone has an equal share or say on what makes the background ponies' personalities, flaws, quirks, and so on, and the State would be the production crew of the show. What the crew says, it happens, and we can't exactly question it. But it's okay, since it's them and we're cool with them, we mostly let it happen. Mostly.

OCs are like capitalism, the one who owns them can do whatever they want with them, like one would do with private property, and if they want to make anything with them then they will, even if we hate it. Like when a person wants to build something that has half the neighborhood raging about it.

QED, you have been troll logic'd.
Van_Horsing
#606733
9 months ago
^That's a pretty good explanation. So editors are the HOA?
Some_Anon
#606748
9 months ago
^Van Horsing

In theory, yes.
Elysiaa
#607741
9 months ago
I just dislike Nyx because she's an OC...
But Pipsqueak is cute
Skarkdahn
#607778
9 months ago
@604678 Does that include accents which are similar to the 'real' British accent, as well as all the 'sub' British accents (Yorkshire, London, Birmingham etc.). If so, then you'll pretty much be punching Britain.

But then again, most Brits probably want to punch people with American accents, so we're square. =P
Skarkdahn
#607784
9 months ago
^ And there was meant to be a question mark in there somewhere.

Forgetfulness? Tish, pashaw, nonsense. That was completely intentional!
Kanashi1kage
#608663
9 months ago
Pipsqueak is just going through the same period the CMC went through where obnoxious haters would scream at them until they stopped caring so much about what they hate.

Replace Nyx with the CMC and this pic is correct.
Kein
#610515
9 months ago
> comparing OC to actual canon character


you went full derp
Anonymous
#615774
8 months ago
This here be the first warnin' to the fanbase, Love an' tolerate like ye should an we won't wind up like the sonic fanbase.

DRINK FECK ARSE FILLIES!!!
Takashi_0
#619291
8 months ago
@Elysiaa: >I only hate Nyx because she's an OC.

Which is the absolute stupidest reason to hate something.

You people are fucking retarded.
RealityCheck
#677708
8 months ago
Cue a Nyx/Pip ShipFic.....
Anonymous
#681395
8 months ago
^All of my money...
Anonymous
#735132
7 months ago
RC Do it and i'll support it to the end.
Anonymous
#829011
6 months ago
People who spend time of their day hating either of these characters need to GET. A. LIFE.
Anonymous
#869547
6 months ago
ALL RIGHT, ENOUGH! Some people like Nyx, some people hate her. Some people like Pipsqueak, some people hate him. Haters gonna hate, that's just the way it is. Ignore the haters. MOVE ON.
Anonymous
#935115
5 months ago
Aw, I just read Past Sins and liked it; I never realized there was so much hate for Nyx though. Although, it is the only ponyfic I've read thus far...
Anonymous
#1037992
4 months ago
Fuck Nyx