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Doctor_Whooves
#558225
9 months ago
Didn`t think it was possible to make Skywind worse, but making him Alicorn does the trick quite nicely.
misnamed
#558237
9 months ago
wow, it has been a while, i see you've grown a horn
Lockstep
#558241
9 months ago
Oh Celestia this again. Ugh, argh, gurgle, vomit.
Anonymous
#558244
9 months ago
SUMMON THE MANWHORE
dragonSpike
#558246
9 months ago
@Doctor_Whooves: Agreed.
AdrianBrony
#558251
9 months ago
oh, skywind, how nice to see you again. we're kind of busy laughing at a new homophobic OC though, but We'll probably get back around to you eventually.
TenchiFreak5
#558254
9 months ago
Skywind still exists? Wow.
ARGH
#558277
9 months ago
@Lockstep

U called?
Anonymous
#558283
9 months ago
oh lol, is Skywind back now?

Someone bring out Fernando the OC lover.
Kein
#558284
9 months ago
by the candy in my hand...
I promote Fernando to alicorn mode!
NormandyCommand
#558288
9 months ago
LOL @ tags. "original_character_do_not_steal" how cute.
Sevireth
#558291
9 months ago
If I encounter a character I am not interested in, I close the tab and go somewhere else.
These comments, however, prove that bronies are really into giving their time and attention to something they wish to not exist.

Considering that hatred isn't the opposite of love and the apathy is, I conclude this: stop lying to yourselves and come out of the closet already — you're all in deep love with alicorn oc's.
Anonymous
#558295
9 months ago
Explain this "Skywind" phenomenon to me. Is he really that bad?

-- Adam C.
AdrianBrony
#558304
9 months ago
#558291
that's not how logic quite works. one doesn't need to have the opposite of love to not have love.
SonicRainboom93
#558306
9 months ago
@anon 295, he ships his OC a lot with canon characters(Dash) and from the general perspective of everyone else, they dont like it. thats the short short SHORT way to essplain it(ESSPLAIN!)
DarkJester
#558331
9 months ago
He already mentioned he's doing this to troll you guys. Not at first, but nowadays he does. So long as the hate exists, so will Skywind.
RAMMSTEIN45
#558332
9 months ago
...Alicorn... >.>
d715
#558334
9 months ago
@558295

Ok, he's more or less the normal Marty Sue OC being shipped with Dash, you know that "he protects her form a blast that Dash should have easly got out of the way"
but then a rather homophonic comic came out with him explaning why Dash being gay is a bad message to kids or some shit
Lios
#558337
9 months ago
Wow, I didn't expect to see new Skywind material. It's almost nostalgic.
Anonymous
#558370
9 months ago
Lol his forehead grew a huge boner >>21694
Doctor_Whooves
#558375
9 months ago
>>10910
SonicRainboom93
#558394
9 months ago
@Doctor_Whooves LOL
@Anon370 what the hell am I reading XD lol
brainchild
#558399
9 months ago
Huh... I just remembered the "Deal with it" skywind pic and it's comments. The only ones defending the character were trolls trolling the haters. This character literally has no fans.
Lola_Del_Rio
#558491
9 months ago
SUMMON FERNANDO! NAO!!!!!
nemryn
#558502
9 months ago
Sevireth: no, apathy is just the absence of love. The opposite of love is disgust.

Also, why is this explicit?
Anonymous
#558814
9 months ago
I give a hand to the artist who actually drew it, since it's drawn very nicely.... but It's content burns me ever so.

Alicorns, I don't mind (Really), shipping with canon-characters, doesn't bother me. But being a homophobic asshole who dangles his little "perfect dreams" in front of us with such a character, THAT is when I pull out my flame thrower.
Anonymous
#559104
9 months ago
Are we trolling Skywind again? Cool, cool. Where's my rainbow flag...
GreyAcumane
#559421
9 months ago
@715 - actually, I hunted down that comic a while ago (it took forever due to how many hate-edits people made) and all he really did was call the way fanon, at least at the time, was downright rabid over the idea that RD was absolutely a lesbian, and called it out as slander.
If you actually looked at what he said rationally and objectively, what he said is true, since insisting that a straight or bi person is gay would effectively cut them off from at least part of their preferred romance pool.(and RD will never be confirmed as gay in canon)
However, since fans were already sick of skywind for the wish fulfillment self insert oc shipping, nobody looked at it rationally, immediately made claims that he was homophobic gay bashing and used it as an excuse to go to town.
In many ways, griffy feels like people trying to tap back into that same unbecoming brony hatred. It doesn't even really feel like honest hatred either, but more like an attempt to get that bandwagon rolling again, purely for the sake of being part of the infamy, much like how Paris Hilton was really only famous for being famous.
Kein
#559572
9 months ago
> what he said is true
You mean the fact that Dash isn't lesbian? Lol, there is no reason to prove it is true, because it is like... you know, canon? Everything else is fanon.
Lockstep
#559587
9 months ago
^Quote from the original comic, shortened but not taken out of context: "Rainbow Dash is not a lesbian! ... I mean seriously, what kind of message would that have on children that watch this show?"

If you look at what he said objectively, he is implying that a lesbian character would be a bad influence on children. There's no way around it. That is why people hate Skywind.

Here it is, if you think I'm being unfair somehow: >>7577
Lockstep
#559589
9 months ago
My comment was @GreyAcumane
GreyAcumane
#560074
9 months ago
Except you're doing the same thing that every other reverse-bigot has been doing; treating everything that doesn't completely support homosexuality as being homophobic.

Anyone who DOESN'T have a chip on their shoulder about the homosexual agenda can recognize that he is just as likely referring to the ENTIRE SPECTRUM of relationships on that level. The mane cast is already friends, trying to get into the concept of "special friends" in that type of setting would require getting into explicit detail (a lesbian is a girl who has sex with another girl) which IS completely ridiculous for a children's show.
That's not even getting into the issue of not reinforcing the stereotypes that make it so a person can't even have a freaking rainbow as any part of their wardrobe without it being used to claim that they're gay.

No. The reason people hate skywind is because he embodies the fundamental brony shame; wanting to have a relationship with a cartoon character from a girl's show, and also due to the jealousy of seeing artwork (commissioned or otherwise) of his character getting shipped with "their waifu." The homophobe issue was just an excuse for bronies who still hadn't come to terms with themselves and/or their jealousy to lash out, while at the same time getting to play the white night under the flag of tolerance.

And of course, anytime you manage to get the ire of an entire group, you wind up picking up opportunists, who don't even have any actual hatred or investment in the situation, but simply want to be able to insult or pick on someone, and use the mob presence as their excuse for it.
It wouldn't surprise me if those same types of people were actually pushing this Griffy_the_Griffon thing, trying to build up another mob that they can then join up with. The brony community gained a reputation for being immune to trolls, so it has effectively become a high value/high difficulty target to trolls, but bronies are actually quite susceptible to trolling once the tactics have been customized for their particular weaknesses (furry comparisons, OC shipping, and Nyx are the big ones)
Doctor_Whooves
#560090
9 months ago
Shipping dash with another female has never had anything to do with her rainbow colour-scheme or tomboy attitude, for me. The cutest pairings for her just tend to be same-sex ones. I don't care about stereotypes, and personally I prefer dating tomboy-ish girls so even if I was dumb enough to subscribe to stereotypes I have quite a lot of experience that tells me being a tomboy has nothing to do with being a lesbian. :P

What pissed me off about this character way-back-when was his homophobic rant. Not all OC shipping bothers me; in fact there was another OC/Dash ship commission uploaded last night, and that one got pretty positive comments; so I don't think it's jealousy that causes the hate here, either. This OC simply just rubs people the wrong way.
ROTHY
#560528
9 months ago
Now how did I miss spotting this? Maybe its because I DON'T CARE ABOUT SKYWIND!
fonypag
#560538
9 months ago
@Lockstep

Or maybe he meant that having Rainbow Dash as a lesbian would reinforce the gay tomboy stereotype that many people take objection to.

Not saying that that's necessarily the case, but I'm inclined to give people the benefit of the doubt.
Anonymous
#560551
9 months ago
Even with some other self-insert OC this pic would still be pretty cute, but any shipping that involves Skywind gives me cringes...
Lockstep
#562543
9 months ago
I just looked at his DA page for the comic to scrape up some TRUFACTZ, and he repeatedly says that:
1. The comic was satirical/the character was just talking to get RD's attention.
2. He isn't the artist, and he didn't tell the artist what to write at all.

If that's true, then I have no problem with him. For me, 100% of the issue was the implication that lesbian = bad influence.

I personally don't understand the furry hate, don't like what's going on with Griffy, never read Past Sins so I couldn't care less about Nyx, and am ambivalent about OC/Mane Six ships.

I hate arguing without facts to back it up, so that ends it. It's all good! :D
Lockstep
#562556
9 months ago
Yup, here's a quote:

ex626AKAKeon (Skywind):"...You know i have no problem with gays, Hell 90% of my friends are [gays]..."

That doesn't sound like a homophobe to me.
Anonymous
#578331
9 months ago
Haters like to hate, shippers like to ship, I like to dance
Anonymous
#1259013
3 months ago
@lockstep
I think there's a tv trope article called "Some of my best friends are black" or something similar.
The gist of the entry is that you can't get off the hook just because you allegedly are friends with some members of a group. It doesn't really work that way.