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Tacoworld501
#462047
10 months ago
It's because the OCs color schemes and bodies are usually stoopid.
Gittonsxv
#462054
10 months ago
i have to agree with taco there a bit and even if they did look like normal characters, i have yet to see a OC with a background story that equals that of a background pony.....i dont hate them, just wish they were better xD
TGGeko
#462055
10 months ago
None of them warp the world around them such that ponies act out of character to facilitate their existence.
Muffinoffun
#462056
10 months ago
We don't hate them because they're not unoriginal Mary-Sue's like 99% of OC's. Just saying.
Mastahopo
#462057
10 months ago
What people REALLY hate is Oc's Getting along with Characters, via friendship, rule 34, saying hello, etc.
Instead they can simply see a BG pony saying something in front of a Mane character and its Fully canon.
Thats the thing: Canon vs Fanon.
Anonymous
#462058
10 months ago
I lol'd
Anonymous
#462059
10 months ago
Generally through consensus as opposed to by a specific individual, whilst making a physical appearance in the show as opposed to a comparatively obscure fan-fiction. :)
Wrongness
#462063
10 months ago
I don't hate OCs there are a few I dislike and there are actually a few I like. It all depends on the character.
Anonymous
#462064
10 months ago
... and here comes the shitstorm.
Rasrap_Smurf
#462065
10 months ago
I'll repost what I said last time I saw an argument about this. (where we arguing? I'm sorry...)

I for one don't hate OCs, but I dislike how some OCs (Nyx for example) get features in drawfrinds on EqD despite a general rule of no OCs in drawfriends.

Also there's the thing where people don't like that which they don't know. Most people who have watched the show will recognise the backgrounds, even if they don't agree on the personality. But a lot less people have read Past Sins (or any other fanfic if we're talking about other OCs) and so have no idea who Nyx is.
Anonymous
#462067
10 months ago
Background ponies are something that everypony can share. Their personalities, despite being total speculation, are assembled collectively through us the fans.
Rasrap_Smurf
#462069
10 months ago
were*
Anonymous
#462070
10 months ago
Nyx is okay for me. I just hate that five legged turtle.
Anonymous
#462074
10 months ago
Are Lyra's antics and closeness to Bonbon, Octavia's classiness, DJ's coolness, and Derpy's derpiness entirely made-up?
Blockhead134
#462076
10 months ago
i like all ponies
Anonymous
#462079
10 months ago
Weeell, none of them are alicorns.

That counts for something, right?
Tomaster
#462082
10 months ago
^462070

AGREED.
Anonymous
#462085
10 months ago
Yes it's totally surprising that people hate self insert mary sue characters that try to directly clash with canon, while not resenting collaborative back stories created for non fleshed out canon characters. Totally Illogical
Anonymous
#462087
10 months ago
I think we all can agree, Kinky Turtle sucks.
Rasrap_Smurf
#462088
10 months ago
Is it just me or does the picture of Nyx in this image remind anyone else of Sweetie Belle?
Jackarunda
#462095
10 months ago

LIFES

Wrongness
#462098
10 months ago
Also I used to not care one way or the other about Nyx
but after all the drama she caused on this site and after
so many anons being like
OMG YOU DON'T LIKE NYX?!?! THIS IS THE BEST FANFIC EVAR!!!
I can honestly say I dislike her.
Anonymous
#462109
10 months ago
Littlepip and co aren't that bad...
BILL_POOTIS
#462114
10 months ago
I don't hate OCs. I hate Mary Sues.

(And before you make any assumptions, I don't give a shit about Nyx.)
Anonymous
#462116
10 months ago
I like the background characters, but I don't take any of the fan stuff seriously.

I am hoping some of these characters will have a bigger role in season 2 than just background characters.
Bronyboy
#462118
10 months ago
@462088
Sorry about that, its one of my early ones. I wasn't very good at vectors back then. I'm still not any good but better at least.
Saufsoldat
#462119
10 months ago
I don't remember any background character given a complete mary sue personality (safe for perhaps Dr. Whooves, but that's more of a crossover).

By their very nature background characters are not mary sues and thus acceptable in fanfics that give them a normal, fitting personality.
Anonymous
#462121
10 months ago
Well, I made an OC/mane shipping story that seems to be pretty well received.

I see the irony this image states.

But at the same time, Nyx was designed by just a few as these characters had millions develop their personalities.
DandyMan
#462126
10 months ago
Biggest reason i dont like OCs is that the creator makes them godly its so weak ...
Anonymous
#462127
10 months ago
But there is a difference between OC's and Background Characters: BC's are official characters on the show. OC's, shitty or not, are not. Besides, being in the same fic as Nyx fucks up your intelligence considerably.
Anonymous
#462129
10 months ago
Nobody hates Emlan's pear seller.
Your argument is invalid.

But the biggest reason for this is if, for example, an OC is an annoying overachiever, I just hate the OC, but if a fanfic makes Derpy Hooves talk in word salads, I hate that the author made Derpy talk in word salads, but not Derpy herself. There's multiple interpretations of the background ponies and I can favor the characteristics I choose to while OCs are one authors property.

Also they have much better color schemes.
Anonymous
#462132
10 months ago
The creators of the shows don't read fanfics. They know about the attention to the background ponys.

Derpy and DJ P0N-3 have been made canon. Wouldn't be surprised if the others have been made canon.

Nuff' said.
Anonymous
#462136
10 months ago
Also, personally, I'd rather a person like Kinky Turtle just insert himself in his fan stuff than try to make a lousy pony persona.

K.T. existed before he knew about the show, when he did primarily fetish-y furry stuff. Don't ask about it... most of his stuff was WIERD.
Zarkanorf
#462137
10 months ago
Name me a Mary-Sue background character.
Oh, what's that? There are none, you say!
What a relief!! For a second there, I thought you were taking two completely different concepts of fanon and canon and attempting to link them together to fancy yourself a shitstorm or an argument.

Oh, wait... You were?
We're done here. Good day to you, Anonymous.
YetAnotherBrony
#462143
10 months ago
^462067:

That. Very much that. We all have a hand (hoof?) in creating the backstories of the background characters. If we don't like it, we can write our own fanfictions about the character.

An OC, however, has his or her personality/backstory set by his/her creator. If Nyx was a background pony, there wouldn't be nearly as much hate because people would just write their own fanfictions about her. But since Nyx belongs to the author(s) of "Past Sins" (Pen Stroke and Batty Gloom, according to EqD) and not Hasbro/Lauren Faust and the rest of the animation team, we're stuck with Nyx as is.
Anonymous
#462146
10 months ago
#462136 was weird? It still fucking is!
sargesprinkles
#462149
10 months ago
why bother to make an effort, i hate both.
Forgottensin
#462157
10 months ago
I don't want to kick the background characters like footballs.
BILL_POOTIS
#462158
10 months ago
@Zarkanorf



Take them all.
Bronyboy
#462161
10 months ago
I still like Nyx even if everybody doesn't. I just thought I'd contribute. You know. To the conversation.
Anonymous
#462165
10 months ago
It's the same reason forced memes piss people off. The fanon for BG chars is decided by consensus. The fanon for OCs is decided by their creators. (Besides which, without any outside help, that fanon tends to suck.)
Noizeblaze
#462175
10 months ago
Yes. Problem?
Anonymous
#462188
10 months ago
OC's are awesome

Belator
#462200
10 months ago
I'm completely fine with OCs as long as they're reasonable and the creators don't insist that they're canon.
Anonymous
#462204
10 months ago
How many background ponies tried to make themselves the center of the universe, stealing the spotlight from our favorite characters?
arrzot
#462217
10 months ago
I dislike Bon-Bon.
Anonymous
#462232
10 months ago
My hatred for Nyx was cured by the appearing of this abomination...

Nope, not Pinkie Pie...
Draconaes
#462249
10 months ago
I like Nyx. Why no Creeping Darkness artwork of her?
Anonymous
#462266
10 months ago
I like OCs. I have no interest in Nyx, and from what I've seen, she's a bit...annoying, I guess is the right word.
Anonymous
#462269
10 months ago
people need to realize that no one except yourself and maybe your friends give a shit about your horrible OCs.
Anonymous
#462286
10 months ago
I mean look at that OC in the example. BLUE EYES? WEIRD COLORS? FUCK YOU, OC!
They always gotta be so "special", don't they? Reeks of deviantart teenager :6
Draconaes
#462288
10 months ago
@269 It would seem an awful lot of people give a shit about Nyx. Your statement might be true for OC's in general though.
Oh wait you said "horrible" OC's, my mistake. (Sorry couldn't resist.)
Jiranis
#462291
10 months ago
@anon232
You LIKE Pinkie Pie?
What the hell is wrong with you?

On a srsbsns note, Zarkanorf and Bill Pootis win this round.
Draconaes
#462309
10 months ago
@286 Interesting complaint. Being (a fragment of) Nightmare Moon, it wouldn't make a lot of sense for her eyes to not be Nightmare Moon's eyes.
Anonymous
#462321
10 months ago
On a side note, as much as I hate the self-insertion comics of Kinky Turtle, all their other ones are pretty funny.
Anonymous
#462327
10 months ago
BG ponies are canon, OC doesn't. BG ponies appears in the show, OC doesn't. That's it.
Draconaes
#462328
10 months ago
Oh btw I'm sorry for not jumping on the Nyx hate bandwagon. I probably would if I saw her as an OC, but for some reason I only see fanon expansion of Nightmare Moon, and if there's one thing I love in fanfiction it's the expansion of canon characters, so yeah. Yay Nyx! You may all carry on however.
Anonymous
#462332
10 months ago
i have no idea who nyx is, but the name itself makes it sound like a bad OC. that's not a pony name.

i don't think all OCs are bad. but most are.
like the pear seller is OK - she looks like a plausible pony. i don't really care about any fan material featuring her, but i don't hate it either.
Anonymous
#462362
10 months ago
This picture is so true it's not even funny.

You guys are kinda dumb in a bizzare way.
Anonymous
#462383
10 months ago
@Draconaes
That's true.
All other OCs may be good or bad, but Nyx is totally (partially) Nightmare Moon, so she's more a variation of a canon character than an OC.
Anonymous
#462390
10 months ago
I usually hate OC's because their design and writing are monopolized by a single fan, who tends to be terrible at design, and terrible at character writing. Nyx is a middle ground, because she has a terrible design, but is written pretty well, which is, well, an anomaly. Lyra, Octavia, Vinyl et al are designed by the show's artists, who are paid to make good designs, and are written by a mass collective consciousness of fans, who, when acting collectively tend to encourage good character writing and discourage bad writing. So it's the opposite of the "too many cooks" effect. The more people who contribute to shaping the character, the more well-rounded the character can become. This doesn't always work, arguably as in Derpy, but that's just what I think.
Anonymous
#462437
10 months ago
@462362
Your post is so stupid it's not even funny. Oh wait, it is, but only because I like to laugh at retarded people. I am a terrible person.
Anonymous
#462440
10 months ago
hate today no love for tomorrow
Anonymous
#462474
10 months ago
#462437

Yup. You guys really ARE dicks. No wonder everyone hates you, you're worse than furfags!
Anonymous
#462482
10 months ago
95% of bronies are morons.
Some_Anon
#462498
10 months ago
I usually don't give a shit about FAN characters (God damn it people, why call them OCs if they're not created for an original work?) but when I do, it's usually those that stir shit, like Nyx here.

Want my opinion? Drop the hate and get that pierced ear checked.
Anonymous
#462516
10 months ago
^ They're not called original work characters so I don't know why you're trying to start a dumb semantics argument.
Wyrm
#462519
10 months ago
I'd like to offer a rebuttal to Zarkanorf, to name a Mary-Sue background character.

Well... I can't name one from this fandom, but I can name one from another fandom. Actually, he isn't a background character. He's a foreground character.

For a while, about ten years ago, there was this trend in fanfictions that Ranma Saotome was an unbeatable combat machine, besting guys like Batman and Captain America, to even beating gods (although to be fair to him, Ranma did canonically beat a demi-god). There was also this rabid fanboy following that ate that stuff up, and badmouthed anyone who had Ranma lose a fight. It got so bad that some people took to calling Ranma "Wonderboy." So we have an exant example of a canonical character whose fanon interpretation was that of a Mary-Sue.

It was enlightening, and I realized that all characters are someone's OC — even the canon ones. If it's possible to like a canon character, its possible to like a fanon character. It all depends on the skill of the writer.
Some_Anon
#462546
10 months ago
^462516 Point taken. I'm trying to draw the attention away from Nyx Hate and anything related to it because, let's face it, we're one wrong post away from the start of a war.
Anonymous
#462559
10 months ago
Oh lawdie, internet drama
Anonymous
#462612
10 months ago
Sometimes people writing backstories for minor characters can be terrible too, look at the Star Wars universe. Specifically Boba Fett, a extremely minor character in the series, but in the expanded universe he escapes the Sarlacc, recreates the Mandalorians, becomes the greatest bounty hunter in the galaxy, wields lightsabers on several occasions, and creates a wetter version of water. In short the character got so ridiculous everyone hated him and most of his expanded universe stories were retconned or changed, and yes I think some of the background ponies are stupid too, and I don't think reinterpreting them in any way will make me give a shit about them.
Anonymous
#462649
10 months ago
@Zarkanorf

I'll give you an example of a main character Mary-sue.

Twilight Sparkle.

Has a baby dragon as a pet/assistant. She is super powerful. Is on very friendly terms with the leader of Equestria. Has a powerful, ancient, mystical force locked up inside her.

Considering Nyx, in the story, is the physical embodiment of Nightmare Moon, alicorn/super powerful/dragon eyes, I can't see her being any more mary-sue than Twilight.
Anonymous
#462657
10 months ago
OC = shitty designed self-inserts of lifeless autistic faggots trying too hard

Background characters on the other hand provoked the audience's imagination BECAUSE OF their good design and have mostly occured by randomness and professionals not giving a fuck (thus not carrying the stench of autistic obsession).
Anonymous
#462667
10 months ago
the reason behind this is that while OCs are made by one person,
background characters are made by the community.


Everyone contributes to background characters, and their personalities developed over time based on the overall opinion (with doctor whooves being an exception, only because he is based on a character from another show).
OC's are made by one person, usually of low quality and personality is rarely any good (in any fandom).
Anonymous
#462670
10 months ago
>#462649

Faust and other professionals did TS and it was good.

Nyx is an amateurish attempt that looks like shit, smells like shit and is shit.
Anonymous
#462687
10 months ago
@#462670

Your argument is valid

"TS is good because she's good, Nyx is bad because she's bad"

Keep that up and you might become a quality debater.
Anonymous
#462698
10 months ago
background characters are made by the community.

Oh yes, I forgot having a bunch of people make your character automatically makes that character good how could I have been so foolish!
Silversoul666
#462740
10 months ago
Let's all hate a lot!
Lemme try creating some OC's to see the flames of war rage.
Some_Anon
#462752
10 months ago
... you know what? The fan base could use some hate anyways. Proceed.
Anonymous
#462758
10 months ago
The second I saw Nyx I hated her. I hated her before I thought about her being OC. Just hate the design to death.
GreyAcumane
#462867
10 months ago
At this point, the thread has probably grown too large for anything I post here to make a difference, and what I'm saying has probably already been said, so I'll try to keep it short (nevermind, Keeping it short just isn't happening)

People don't hate Nyx for being a fan creation, but for the way in which she is written warping all the canon personalities of the characters around her and overshadowing the importance of the mane cast.
Essentially shitting all over everything that fans love about the show. If you're the tl;dr type, you can probably quit reading here.

The background ponies, while they generally have their personalities entirely defined by fanon, do NOT warp the personalities of the mane cast nor do they generally partake of any events that make them more important than the mane cast. Bon Bon/Lyra, Carrot Top/Derpy, Berry Punch/Cheerilee, and Octavia/Vinyl Scratch only ever amount to little Odd Couple/Perfect Stranger type of sitcoms that fit perfectly well into the slice of life/importance of friendship vibe that is such a big part of MLP:FiM. Dr. Whooves is probably the closest thing to an overpowered pony that exists in background characters, but even that is generally as a homage, and even still is generally underplayed (I've never really seen more than pieces of episodes, but from what I have seen, his entire function is to save the world while getting the LEAST amount of attention possible)

Other OCs besides Nyx are usually designed to "stand out" by being as flashy or using as many variations on the base pony form as possible, while doing pretty much no character development at all. Which ultimately only results in them looking like every single other OC pony.
Otherwise, they merely act as an avatar, primarily designed, like Badluck Dice or Skywind to either hook up with their favorite character(or characters if they can't choose) or at least impress them or gain their favor in some manner. Kinky Turtle falls into this problem, and doesn't even bother morphing their character to a pony first. To a certain extent, this is probably about the closest thing a person could do to stalking for a fictional character.

Not all OC ponies fall into this though. Bob is a wonderful OC, not because he constantly gets beaten on in every strip, but because of how even though he's so unlucky, he keeps on trucking. There's also the strip with the Divers looking for the Merponies/Seaponies, again despite various hardships they just keep trucking. There's Lazy Day and Pear Blossom, who don't stand out terribly much, but because of that they at least keeps from being hated. Above all else, what all of these characters have in common is that they all have their own thing that they do and don't rely on garnering favor from the mane cast at all.
zeyro
#462869
10 months ago
I liked Past Sins, although not ridiculously so as some people, but I don't see how her being a Mary-Sue is such a big deal when it's at least explained in a mildly believable manner.

Ridiculous Backstory?
She was made by a spell gone wrong (that wasn't caused by Twilight Sparkle) from a cult wanting to bring back Nightmare Moon. There's more than this which could very well be counted as Mary-Sue but spoilers and such if I go further in detail

Alicorn?
Well when you're the failed reincarnation of an Alicorn, it's a bit unavoidable.

Insanely Powerful?
Being the failed reincarnation of Nightmare Moon can do that.

Everypony likes her?
We actually get to see her interact with the other ponies and act friendly with them which makes sense since they think she's just any other pony and they're pretty friendly. Rarity questions her, but she warms up to her AFTER getting to know her. Rainbow Dash also doesn't really like her calling her a crybaby from the start.

Now let's look at Twilight Sparkle.

Ridiculous Background Story?
Bookworm with unexplained amounts of magical power gets taken in by the ruler of Equestria and is then sent to a small village where she makes friends with everyone and then saves the village countless times over.

Alicorn?
Nope, but give her wings and she'd probably be a shoe-in

Insanely Powerful?
Eeyup. Don't know why she's powerful. Saying she's the Element of Harmony just makes her also fit the "Chosen One" trope.

Everypony likes her?
You can also chalk this up to Ponyville being friendly, but she did seem to have far less reason to be liked yet was still welcomed by all of Ponyville regardless. If being unsociable and rude to everypony you meet gets you all of Ponyville as friends, why shouldn't getting to know them like Nyx did?

Similarities
-They're both the main characters in their respective works.
-They're both Mary-Sues

Differences
-One is liked and the other is despised
-One was put on TV and the other was a fan-made story
-One took 2 episodes (or 44 minutes) to befriend everyone, overcome her internal conflict, and save everypony. The other took 21 chapters (or 500+ pages) to do the same.

What did this do? Basically show that Nyx being Mary-Sue like shouldn't be the reason why Past Sins isn't liked. If anything, the biggest flaw with Past Sins is that it could use slightly better writing in places and focus on better pacing and such. If most shows didn't have Mary-Sues as main characters at least to some degree, it'd tend to fall flat pretty quickly.

While I'm not saying that hating OC's or Mary-Sue's are illegal or something, but being a hypocrite doesn't really make any sense.
kuwarudo
#462887
10 months ago
This comment section:

Wow.
FireEel
#462983
10 months ago
I don't hate Nyx. But I don't see why we should compare Nyx to characters like Lyra, Bon Bon, Octavia etc. These characters are official creations by Hasbro. Lyra's closeness to Bon Bon, Derpy being derped and delivering things etc have been reflected in the show itself. Chances are, we will continue to see these background ponies in the show, but a character like Nyx will unfortunately, likely never appear.
MaroonBunyip
#463129
10 months ago
OP's question is explained [url=http://ponibooru.413chan.net/post/view/58716]here[/img]
MaroonBunyip
#463134
10 months ago
failed bbcode link is redone here
Anonymous
#463551
10 months ago
>#462474

Well, somebody sounds really butthurt. Also, if bronies are worse than furfags, then why the hell are you posting on a website that is all about ponies, bronies and what have you.

You. Fail. So. Hard.
Anonymous
#463580
10 months ago
This is EXACTLY why I work with BG ponies. A template is provided, you can play around with their backstory and whatever, but they never become OCs, and thus you are exempt from people shouting 'self-insert, mary-sue, i hate OCs blah blah blah'
-flood-
#463769
10 months ago
This comment page.

So much text.

Whatever I wanna say has most likely already been said.

But there's just so much text so
RealityCheck
#463806
10 months ago
The explanation is simple. Bronies are retards.
Anonymous
#463832
10 months ago

Francis:
"I hate all characters..."
Verve
#463866
10 months ago
Megabit.
rainbowhyphen
#464022
10 months ago
I don't hate OCs. I like OCs! =)
Anonymous
#464053
10 months ago
#463551

Case in point. I'm far from butthurt, the only one who seems to be that way here is you. Sorry pal.
Silversoul666
#464356
10 months ago
I knew this was gonna be fun.
Sind
#464361
10 months ago
I don't hate OCs. I hate shitty characters(i.e. nyx)
HeinousActsZX
#464465
10 months ago
I Love OCs!
zralf
#464905
10 months ago
OC's are lame self-promotion examples of how weak and pathetic their authors are, the more powerfull your fantasy character, the weaker the author. the BG ponies are just there, they're not trying to be uuberleetawesome by default like many Oc's are. there's your shit-raindrop.
kaoskirin
#465931
10 months ago
correction we just hate alicorn oc's that dont deserve the title so far only faust deserves it.

>: besides i have a pegasus oc and i love the background ponies also
Anonymous
#467157
10 months ago
You know why people hate OC's ?
Because they are the main characters in they're fan-made re-writting/interpretation/cross-over of the universe created by Faust.
In doing so, they over shadow the show characters, even the background one, who the haters may like.
But the fact is, there is no point in hating because, as said before, they are not cannon.
People just had to handle those fanfiction like alternate universe created by another fan like them who put a lot of work into it. The overall quality wildly varies, but it shouldn't stop people to like them, even if the universe created isn't accurate to the show.
When dealing with fan fiction, I personnally cut all link with the show and read it in the more objective way possible, and if the work is good, I continue to read and enjoy it.
It is foalish to try to made a comparison with a fan-made universe and the universe owned by hasbro.
Vree
#467261
10 months ago
Yeah, people need to grouw the fu out of this boo hoo, why you hate on my fan characters stuff. Everyone dislikes a baad character. Trying to say that we don't like them 'cause they are original (yeah, you swapped a color palette and threw in some Mary Sue traits, reeal original) is avoiding the whole freakin' point. I have seen good fancharacters. I have seen great fancharacters!
Like 'emlan's pear pony: http://emlan.deviantart.com/art/ponykoma-apple-acres-257095158
or "Night Shift" (tired-looking scrubby caffeinated pony) or St. Patrick pony (both are on this site, lazy to link them).
Nothing wrong with those, actually I could stand artists draw them a bit more!

Look deep into your heart, and ask yourself if the "OC" you created is really honestly good, or just a blatant self insert with over-used themes that do not fit in well with the show, or characters who just increase the number of characters where the same thing could be accomplished with the existing main characters. I guarantee that you will find that fancharacters that got jossed were completely justified to be.
Private_Derpy
#476677
10 months ago
Exactly. It's not a hard concept to understand.
WatermelonRat
#487016
10 months ago
Irony: The overreaction of the Nyx-haters is a major reason why Past Sins caught so many people's attention and made it stay in fans' minds even after it was finished.
arrzot
#491956
10 months ago
If someone made a oc with a white coat and electric-blue mane people would be ragging.
arrzot
#491958
10 months ago
Not to mention red eyes.
MidnightFire
#499715
10 months ago
reading this i just want to ask something.
Are the fanfics I'm planing to write even worth it? I have a OC named Midnight Fire, he's a unicorn with a purple-blue coat, red hair, and yellow-orangeish eyes, and his cutie mark is a simple flame. he's not really good at magic but he can make fire and manipulate it, as well as basic telekinesis (plus any abilities every unicorn should have). i never drew him mostly cause i can't draw lol
he's a member of a traveling group called Phoenix Tail, a multi-race (basically anything that has hooves) group that travels the land of a country i haven't thought of a name of yet, east of Equestria.
Phoenix Tail actually travels to Equestria by boat but the ship gets caught in a storm and is destroyed. basically the rest of the story is finding the survivors and adding to his group again, learning new abilities as he goes, but still not getting as powerful as a mary-sue.
He actually does meet the mane cast, staying in ponyville for a bit and becoming good friends with Pinkie Pie, writting to her often as he travels Equestria, sometimes about what he has learned for Twilight to read/ write to celestia about, but nothing farther than that
i was thinking about a celestia turn evil thing as a obsticle but all Twilight would have to do is use the elements on her and everything is perfect, i'm looking for something that's an actual challenge to overcome, something that can't simply be defeated by elements, something that needs more than Midnights mane six to defeat, if not an army (the elements, celestia's guards, Phoenix Tail, ect.)

please be a brony and help a brother out, if there's anything i should change let me know without totally crushing my creative flow, thanks bronies, love ya guys (no homo)
TBTabby
#499743
10 months ago
Fan-created characters are still characters. There's no reason why they can't be fully-developed, well-rounded and likeable. It all comes down to how they're written.
MidnightFire
#499753
10 months ago
Staying on subject, i don't know nyx, never heard of her and probably will never care, as far as OC's go I don't care, if people like my little pony and want to make an OC then go ahead, some OC's look really cool, and all my members of Phoenix Tail are OCs, what people hate are mary-sues, my friends love making OCs that are damn near perfect and i don't really RP with them anymore, please bronies, make your OC whatever color, any personality you want, just don't make them invincible please.

and what about Rainbow Dash?! she's so full of herself it's disgusting, and her being the ONLY mare to do a sonic rainboom since Celestia knows when?
yeah, sorry Rainbow fanboys, but she's a mary-sue in every sence of the name.
Now background ponies? i like to think of them as a community OC, we all made bg ponies, and i like them as they are, and i like how i could make small changes to them in a fanfic and still have people like them. it's a touchy subject but it's something bronies have to get over.
Takashi_0
#501477
10 months ago
Vree and Zeyro are the only people here with common sense.

The rest of you are just butthurt to the Nth degree. Believe it or not, GOOD OCs DO exist. You just have to pull your head out of your ass and look for them.
RealityCheck
#508648
10 months ago
And remember, bashing on OCs adds another inch to your E-penis!
Anonymous
#590253
9 months ago
a OC named Midnight Fire
unicorn with a purple-blue coat, red hair, and yellow-orangeish eyes
he can make fire and manipulate it
a traveling group called Phoenix Tail
a country i haven't thought of a name of yet, east of Equestria.
travels to Equestria by boat but the ship gets caught in a storm and is destroyed
basically the rest of the story is finding the survivors and adding to his group again, learning new abilities as he goes
meet the mane cast
staying in ponyville for a bit
becoming good friends with Pinkie Pie
celestia turn evil thing as a obsticle but all Twilight would have to do is use the elements on her and everything is perfect
i'm looking for something that's an actual challenge to overcome, something that can't simply be defeated by elements, something that needs more than Midnights mane six to defeat, if not an army

...Yeah.
PowerToole
#590279
9 months ago
I'm not gonna read any of the comments. I have a life to waste in better things.
If you're reading this you're anal.
MaroonBunyip
#590292
9 months ago
What the... why are people posting on this again? its dead 3 weeks!
Anonymous
#593223
9 months ago
Because Europe.
Anonymous
#1038159
4 months ago
Fuck Nyx
Rainbow_Dude
#1107554
4 months ago
Duuuh... Of course!
OC's are completely fan-made (by a single person), so I'm not supposed to care.
BG Ponies are canon. We just build personalities for them with fan-work, based on their acting on the show.
BG Ponies are much more fun than OC's. And they are way more beautiful, too =/
Anonymous
#1434588
1 month ago
I really don't like all the attention BGs get from the fandom, but at least they have potential.

Meanwhile, most OCs have a bad of habit of screwing with the main characters & continuity to suit the writer's whims.