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Sparkmane
#14364
1 year ago
This was posted not to troll, but to serve as a forum for a serious conversation.

What is the difference between these three images? The only real difference is that two were drawn from scratch and the one in the middle was cbbled together in MS Paint.

All three have ponies displayed as severely obese human women, all three of them revealing themselves in a way that most people would rather not have a severely obese woman do.

Surely thngs cobbled together in an image program are not to be banned, there's plenty of it on Ponibooru and no one objects. The middle picture has no NSFW parts showing and no indecent acts being performed or implied. It isn't the only picture prominently featuring an ass.

Yet, the two pictures on the sides were not deleted after spurrig day-long shitstorms from people who found them revolting, and the one in the middle was deleted in minutes with no discussion at all. How can the two on the sides be acceptable if the one in the middle is not? Can it even be assumed that the people who do enjoy the pictures on the sides would not enjoy in the one in the middle?

Personally, I do not think any of these three images belong in the community. But, if the two on the edges do then so does the one in the middle. If the one in the middle does not belong then neither do the ones on the sides. Rules have to be uniformly enforced.

So what does everyone else think of this trio of images? Do the pro-fats think they're really different? Do the anti-fats think all three are essentially the same? Let's dedicate this comments section to a serious discussion on the issue.
Sparkmane
#14369
1 year ago
Also whoever complained about the shiny sheen on the rarity pic over at >>3843 , I geuss the middle pic knocks some holes in your argument.
Anonymous
#14374
1 year ago
This goes too far.
Sparkmane
#14375
1 year ago
^please explain your stance
Anonymous
#14381
1 year ago
>holes

hahahaha no it doesn't you stupid faggot.
Sparkmane
#14382
1 year ago
^what is a person who goes around calling people 'stupid faggot' for no reason doing on a website about my little ponies? At three in the morning?
Anonymous
#14383
1 year ago
there are other countries in the world mr. amerocentrist
Sparkmane
#14386
1 year ago
Yes, but you aren't from any of those.
Anonymous
#14388
1 year ago
You may support your argument at any time.
Sparkmane
#14389
1 year ago
That's not what we're here to argue. This post is about fat ponies. Post a picture of yourself as a pony and I'll support my statements over there.
Anonymous
#14392
1 year ago
Oh hey check out Sparky's upload history.

You sure seem to like fatties, Sparky.
Anonymous
#14393
1 year ago
The difference is a naked human ass. please direct me to another naked real life human ass on this site if there is any. There is no pro fat/anti fat going on here, there is just you failing to understand the threshold of decency from this site
Sparkmane
#14394
1 year ago
Just the opposite. I am merely fighting fatties with fatties.
Anonymous
#14395
1 year ago
I know I sure as hell don't want to see ANY of these images. *vomits*
Anonymous
#14396
1 year ago
You're terrible at it. You have yet to support any argument you've made.
Anonymous
#14397
1 year ago
It's not that I have something against fat people. I don't like seeing skinny bitches, either. I guess I'm tired of seeing porn and glorified bodies of ANY type.
Sparkmane
#14398
1 year ago
^I agree anything sexual, fetish or otherwise, doesn't really belong on a board about My Little Pony
Anonymous
#14400
1 year ago
As far as I'm concerned, bare asses are entirely nsfw. I know I wouldn't want to get caught looking at something like that during work hours.
Anonymous
#14401
1 year ago
^ Wouldn't that destroy the whole point of ponibooru?
Sparkmane
#14405
1 year ago
I still say looking at any pony websites at work is unsafe for your career
Anonymous
#14407
1 year ago
Not if your boss is into it too
though that may go for the ass thing as well...
Anonymous
#14409
1 year ago
You submitted a slightly modified pornographic image and it was deleted when other, clearly less pornographic images weren't, despite people bitching in the comments. You have now started a thread to whine about this, reposting the image that was deleted.

I don't think you've thought your cunning plan all the way through.
Sparkmane
#14410
1 year ago
My complaint is not that the picture in the middle was deleted, but that the other two were not.
Anonymous
#14412
1 year ago
IMHO, the difference is mainly that the two pics on the sides are, in fact, drawn and colored, which entails effort on the artist's part. The central one is just a couple of Pinkie Pie bits badly photoshopped on a photo of an obese lady trying to look sexy (and failing).
No effort, no art. The central pic is a definite no-no in my book.
Anonymous
#14413
1 year ago
That is exactly what I said.

Get out.
Anonymous
#14414
1 year ago
they're all revolting. get out.
Sparkmane
#14415
1 year ago
The effort is different but the content is the same, and I am arguing content, not effort.
Anonymous
#14416
1 year ago
The content is clearly different. The fact that you cannot determine this means you are mentally incapable of having high level discussion or else purposely missing the point to further a shitstorm.

I reiterate, get out.
Anonymous
#14417
1 year ago
Two of these are art and one is a fat ass just like OP I hope your IP gets banned.
Anonymous
#14418
1 year ago
I dunno about 'art' but I agree the OP needs a ban.
Sparkmane
#14419
1 year ago
The content is exactly the same. It is a sexual represntation of a pony from the show as a severely overweight human.

The worst part here is that you seem to agree with me that you don't want any of these on here, and yet instead of directly supporting the cause to rove the point that these images are inappropriate, you choose to troll me personally. Meanwhile, you actually ARE supporting my cause because this little back-and-forth you are persisting in with me is making the post count of this thread go up and up, which will help it get the attention which will help it become a discussion when other people are awake.

I don't think you've thought your cunning plan all the way through.
Anonymous
#14421
1 year ago
Gee, someone sure doesn't understand nuance or sexuality at all.
Heartmend
#14424
1 year ago
All three are obviously meant for the fat fetish crowd.

The thing about fetishes is that not everyone shares your fetish. It's actually safer to assume that most people actually do not.

I personally find all three to be horribly disgusting on multiple levels. They do not look attractive as people, and I find myself high concerned about all three's health. As one who has had multiple family members die from diabetes and heart disease, I actually find all three to be terribly insulting. Having had to watch them in their final years was absolutely heart-wrenching. Even though two of these are simply drawings, it personally bothers me that some would prefer others to abandon good health so that others may find them "attractive".

I do not think promoting such a body image should be Ponibooru's place. Even though no bits are showing, I'd still consider all of these NSFW. The only other time I'd look at morbidly obese people would be for practical joke sites.

I don't want to see these anymore than I want to see other fetishy images. I don't want to see amputee ponies, vomit fetishes, shoe/hoof fetishes, bondage. None of those are really what MLP:FIM is about.
Sparkmane
#14430
1 year ago
Thank you, Heartmend, for your thoughtful input.

I understand that we don't have to click on these images, but if we want to view the other images we have to see the thumbnails for these things in passing and if you see something repulsive while you are tying to look at things to entertain yoruself, then it subtracts from your experience.

I'm not saying that people who are into fat fetishes, or people who are into gore, or people who are into beastiality are wrong; I am just saying some things do not belong here. There needs to be some sense of propriety.
Anonymous
#14435
1 year ago
I'm not saying the fatties aren't people, but they just shouldn't be using the same facilities. It ain't proper.
Heartmend
#14436
1 year ago
Also, while your intentions may be good, the middle image of the three is in fact considered "rear nudity". She obviously is not wearing any panties.
There might be some folks that might find the middle image offensive even if it belonged to a woman of normal weight. Some people people really don't want want to an anyone's asscrack no matter who it belongs to. The reason it got deleted so quickly was that the asscrack in question does belong to a real person. That said, I'm restoring the "deleteme" tag.

Also, Pinkie Pie is wearing a skirt. It's hard to tell if Rarity is wearing anything, but she's not bottomless.

In short, the two drawings appear to be wearing clothing where the middle picture is half nude. Even if it's apparently "tasteful" nudity, I don't think photos of human nudity of any sort belong on Ponibooru.
Heartmend
#14437
1 year ago
Argh, some people really don't want to see anyone's asscrack. It's time to go to bed. :P
Anonymous
#14438
1 year ago
I just realized I'm going to have to explain that post I made above.

What I'm saying is propriety isn't a good argument here. Or anywhere.

In fact, nothing you have said is a good argument. The supposed hypocrisy displayed in the OP's image is evidence only of the OP's inability to discern what they like and what they don't like from what is or is not permissible, and the only argument Heartmend has provided is "I don't like it :(" and "That's not what FIM is about" - Which isn't an argument at all really. Much of the content on this site is only tangentially related to what FIM is about. I'm sure none of the pornfics or grimdark would make it on to FIM. Nor would the rampant 'shipping.
Sparkmane
#14439
1 year ago
I'm going for the night, but a few final notes;

1) You can keep tagging this 'deleteme', but that doesn't delete the image. Mods delete the images. This post here serves a purpose to the community over an issue that the mods are currently working on, and so I do not think they will delete it until it has run its course regardless of what you tag it.

2) You can keep tagging this 'troll_post' but that won't make anyone who reads it think that is what it is.

3) Nothing you say has any merit as an Anonymous. Until you put a name with them, your "witty" comments are just trolling. They'll still be trolling if you do register, but at least you'll appear to have some backbone.

I am surprised really that a My Little Pony website even has trolls, but I geuss not everyone can handle making fun of content that is not aimed at children.
Anonymous
#14442
1 year ago
1) No, it doesn't serve a purpose. The main site discussion thread is hosted on 413chan itself.

2) It is based on an intentional misunderstanding by you, against the moderation, for the purpose of a "discussion" which would be entirely one-sided were I not sick today. This is a worthless thread made by a stupid poster.

3) That you've opted to try to gain popularity for your horrible views is irrelevant to the validity of the ideas presented here. Which is none, because your arguments are terrible and the only thing I have done is point that out.

Well, that and call you stupid a lot.
Eco
#14449
1 year ago
OP: the difference was in fact the naked butt. Although admittedly I didn't think it through very carefully at the time.

As for the issue under discussion, I've got a few ideas, but they're mostly technical ones that allow people to effortlessly ignore stuff they don't like in an automatic way (i.e. remove it from their views), rather than policy decisions about what should be deleted versus what should not be. It's difficult because I want to let the community decide what is and isn't acceptable, rather than presuming to know best... but the community itself seems to disagree, and I myself can't think of any rule that would satisfy the constraints without doing collateral damage. In any case I'm glad it's being discussed, if only to get a bit more idea of what people's feelings are on what the site "should" be.
Anonymous
#14476
1 year ago
I'd like to point out that there's a big NSFW butt at the top of the page.

If you want a "discussion thread" precedent(a terrible, awful idea in my opinion) I'm pretty sure it can be remade with a less trollish header and no loss to discussion.
Anonymous
#14555
1 year ago
don't care, neither should you
Anonymous
#14557
1 year ago
Excuse me! I have to get my bleeding eyes fixed... :(
NonAnon
#14564
1 year ago
While I see no appeal in any of these three pics (this middle sets off my gag reflex), I would not declare the two on the sides to be warranted of a deleteme.

I was under the assumption the at Questionable and Explicit were meant to deal with the NSFW issue, and people were expected to possess enough sense to not click on image marked as such while at work.

An image board is not about YOUR preferences. Its about sharing of art. THAT is why the two on the sides would stay, and not the middle.
The edges may fetish, it doesn't matter. Dirty art is still art.
DeviantART allows ass, breasts, and pussies. (It does). They do so because they are presented as art.
Presentation and definitive meaning are what matters. The middle has no meaning but to garner attention, and can not stand on its own without commentary. That is why it would go, and the other two would stay.

That all said, this pic and all the comments should eventually be deleted, once this issue has been properly hammered out and dealt with.
Anonymous
#14576
1 year ago
The difference is that the middle picture is actually a photoshoped pornographic image to just barely make it ponibooru material, and the others were specifically drawn to be, well, really fucking gross.

I don't get what the fuck everyone is up in arms about. 34 or inappropriate images on ponibooru? Nawwwww, NEVER!

People are weird and that's that. It's no big deal.

Honestly, the only possible way to SEE these images is if you actively search for them on your own volition...

Oh wait, I saw this on the main page...

derp. Okay but still i'm not really surprised this sort of thing exists. Just calm the fuck down.
Sparkmane
#14596
1 year ago
As long as people don't get pissed that their image has been thumbnailed quesionable' and people don't get stupid about the tags, then curious folks can hover over the thumbnail and get the bit of text to say what this questionable or explicit image is all about.

Not perfect, but it's a good start. Thank you, management!
Eco
#14599
1 year ago
There's also intent to add per-user controls for filtering, so logged in users could specify, say, "don't spoiler questionable images" or "don't list images with the fat tag". But I need to learn how Shimmie works inside before I can do that.
Sparkmane
#14614
1 year ago
That sounds like alot of work! I apprciate it, though, and I am sure most everyone else does too.

Maybe it'd be easier just to add more buttons?
Eco
#14697
1 year ago
Adding the buttons is literally what I need to figure out. There's this whole baroque "extension module" system that's used to construct the page itself; it's not like the thumbnails where I could just modify the image code.
Anonymous
#14768
1 year ago
>has no meaning but to garner attention
Y'know there's a whole branch of the art world dedicated to just that?

Restricting the site to "art" removes most image macros and a bunch of the edits. Also the YouTube Transcribe screencaps, which are often funny, but clearly not "art".

>DeviantArt allows ass, breasts, and pussies.
DeviantArt isn't a site for a show watched primarily by little girls. Also bare ass'n'titties require an account to see on DA, along with a bunch of fetish content. The suggestions that have been made regarding that are generally towards enabling Anonymous users to set their filter preferences without having to make an account. I'm sure you can see that this is a superior idea.
Anonymous
#14821
1 year ago
I'm very disappointed to see this site's content get censored, even if it's just the 'EXPLICIT' overlay. We're big kids and can handle the thumbnail.
redweasel
#14831
1 year ago
>implying MLP is watched primarily by little girls
Eco
#14850
1 year ago
^^ If anons could set a cookie that disables the censor thumbnails, would you be okay with it?
Anonymous
#14854
1 year ago
That would be great.

I also want to ask: Is there a threshold for content? Have you taken down any images for being really nasty, apart from the one in OP?
Eco
#14863
1 year ago
"Unambiguously NSFW" has been the standard for deletion thus far. If I can imagine a reasonable argument for something not being NSFW, I've generally been leaving it up.

(For the record, the fact that there's a rule against even that much stems mostly from the state of the site a couple months back, where people wanted rules - ANY rules - and I just filled in what I thought of at 2 AM.)
Anonymous
#14874
1 year ago
I'm just interested in 'the full picture' when it comes to pony content. I hope that this site can stay that way.
Sparkmane
#15027
1 year ago
Even if the 'full picture' encludes massive engorged asses?
Anonymous
#15063
1 year ago
Yep. Not like I haven't seen plenty of it before.
Sparkmane
#18574
1 year ago
Some users are not understanding the 'alternate thumbnail' thing. It would be nice for there to be some way that those random few who do not understand not to look at things they do not want to see to be kept from screwing up tags.

I got no feasible suggestion, though.