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Anonymous
#555358
9 months ago
This is just getting pathetic
Roboshi
#555367
9 months ago
what's pathetic about putting the feelings of the one you care about above your own?

Sad? yes. Pathetic? no.
Anonymous
#555369
9 months ago
Could you at least explain why? I bet that if the blog admin shipped Frederic and Octavia together, almost everyone would have raged because it wasn't Vinyl.
PVRyohei
#555402
9 months ago
I LOVE Octascratch, but i still shed manly tears.
Anonymous
#555405
9 months ago
It IS pathetic that the blog author is imprisoned by the blithering fandom. It ISN'T pathetic for the blog author to draw out a story from that and reflect it in Frederic's conflicting emotions and sense of sacrifice.

Ladies and gentlemen, THIS is art.
Anonymous
#555412
9 months ago
^ Sir, you win all the internets. That comment was pure win.
Anonymous
#555416
9 months ago
AMAZING comment 406
Anonymous
#555418
9 months ago
*sorry 405... i need more sleep xD
Anonymous
#555432
9 months ago
Errr... why is he being such a pussy? Just tell her how he feels and let her decide for herself!

Also: He decides to clam up because "I'm not going to let her risk that?" Like she's just going to jump into his arms after not making a move after how ever many years he's known her?

Guys, if you are this pony IRL with resepct to some girl, then you are as pathetic as the above anonymous ascribes to the fandom.

Make your move or stop whining and move on!
Anonymous
#555446
9 months ago
Is it THAT unusual for a guy to be this nervous around a girl he really likes or love? I dont think so. We kinda see "Frederic" everywhere in real life especially among socially awkward musicians.

Also, I dont think he's ever whined about it. He's only mentioned it when asked about it. All his other posts on the blog aren't related to Octavia
Anonymous
#555460
9 months ago
Have you ever tried asking out a girl who's already interested in someone else 432? Even if the girl doesn't "jump into his arms" a strong love triangle can make a situation really awkward and unpleasant for the girl... especially since they work together.

I think Fred is taking the sacrifice to keep things simple for Octavia.
Jackarunda
#555474
9 months ago
Anon555405 wins the whole internet.

You can't argue with it.
Anonymous
#555476
9 months ago
The whining comment is directed more at bronies who empathize with Frederic.

Best friends since forever who become soulmates (but if only she understood how I felt!) is something that happens in tv/movies/emo songs, etc.
In real life familiarity lessens mystery and interest, and so the longer you feign romantic disinterest, the longer a love is one-sided, the less likely you will ever close that gap.

This kind of crap in the comments is weaksauce, self-centered stalkerish "nice guy" BS.

Man up, bronies. Don't fall into this pattern, EVER.
Anonymous
#555482
9 months ago
^This. If she isn't interested in touching you by your second outing, stay the FUCK away from her.
Anonymous
#555487
9 months ago
Except that I know people who are childhood friends who married in college and have been happily married ever since...

way to make a blanket statement about love 476... you act as if you're such a guru on "what love is" and "how love should be"

Yeah... it's a little cliched that childhood friends fall in love. But it DOES happen.

Also regarding the picture, it's nowhere stated that Frederic and Octavia are childhood friends... heck it's nowhere stated that Frederic knows Octavia longer than Vinyl
Anonymous
#555506
9 months ago
@476

in many fanfics and fan pictures Octavia and Vinyl knew each other since they were foals... so... it's funny how your argument is more valid against Octascratch than it is on Frederic.

With what little there is established (by the fanbase not canon obviously), Frederic actually has the upper hand based on your comments LOLOLOLOL
Anonymous
#555516
9 months ago
@506: First mover gets the cake, you idiot. That was the point.
Anonymous
#555531
9 months ago
Right... about sex... Vinyl might turn out to be a horrible person to be in a RELATIONSHIP with...

love != relationship != fuck buddy

Based on what i've seen from the tumblr Frederic is more "in love" with Octavia than just lustful for her.
Anonymous
#555544
9 months ago
You guys are ALL idiots... did you guys not see that it's implied that Frederic thinks they are dating? Based on my experience, only assholes ask people who are already dating out...

Seriously... is the brony community THAT retarded that they can't get really obvious hints? I hate to see you guys watch HBO shows jesus...
Anonymous
#555550
9 months ago
What makes it difficult is that Vinyl's characterization is inconsistent across the fandom. We've agreed she's extroverted and we're pretty sure she likes Tavi. Is she nice? Considerate? Annoying? Able to take a hint when she's gone to far? Selfish? Faithful? Bi-sexual? How long has she known Tavi?
None of this is cemented yet in the fanon.

But we're pretty sure Octavia is introverted, sophisticated, but easily amused and patient. Right?
Anonymous
#555558
9 months ago
@531: I could see that but it's still kinda creepy and I don't feel sorry for the guy.

If he needs a muse, so be it! But call it what it is.
Anonymous
#555568
9 months ago
@558

Did you NOT see 544's post? Fred thinks they are dating...
Anonymous
#555577
9 months ago
Hey... you guys wanna know something funny? The first time the blog admin hinted that Frederic had feelings for Octavia... (the picture's still up on ponibooru search it) one of the comments was "I'll never forgive him if he breaks either of their hearts."

Yet... Frederic is FOLLOWING that by not meddling in Octavia and Vinyl's affairs and he gets called a pussy for it...

I'm pretty much now convinced you guys just hate stallions. It's dammed if he does dammed if he doesn't.
Anonymous
#555587
9 months ago
^ totally agreed @557 I'm sure if the admin made Frederic just swoop in on Octavia in front of Vinyl the community would have Frederic's head on a stake...
Rectifier
#555597
9 months ago
Anons y u so anon.
Anonymous
#555608
9 months ago
Actually I think this was well handled... If he forced Frederic with Octavia the community would throw a tantrum... not that, THAT isn't happening now lol

I feel sorry for Fred... but necessarily because of this particular picture but because he can never do anything right in the eyes of this community...

I think I'm a Fred fan now ROFLROFLROFL
Anonymous
#556024
9 months ago
I don't see what's so "emo" and "pussy" about Frederic's response. He was going to tell Octavia when Vinyl came in and asked Octavia out in front of him...

Then he said "maybe at a more appropriate time"... which means he WILL tell her just NOW is not the appropriate time and he doesn't want to ruin Octavia's time with Vinyl...

Actually seems to me Frederic is being very courteous... If you think being courteous, tactful, and respectful means being a "pussy" then you sir are a down right idiot.
Anonymous
#560568
9 months ago
I think the worst part of this is the presumptuousness of Frederic that if he made his feelings known, then Octavia would do a 180 and drop Vinyl in due time. Is there something obviously wrong with Vinyl? Not that the artist has expressed. Is this a criticism of the community for liking that pairing? What is the subtext here, is this a counterpoint to the mare-centric shipping community?

Also, what the hell does the artist care what the community thinks of him when he ships someone? There are plenty of overlapping ships with support all over the community, and there will be fighting no matter what. That he acts all indignant and that he's taking the high road just seems childish.

That bronies empathize with his situation, comparing it to failed or uncomfortable relationship in their lives, is what makes him (and by extension the bronies) emo. Because if that's your sentiment when it comes to your female friends, then you are a self-important douche who prefers what's easy and a twisted sense of chivalry to being honest and treating women with respect.

Does anyone of either sex appreciate when their friend does things that are dishonest and their explanation is "I'm just trying to protect your feelings." I know I don't. It always ends up with a worse situation later.

Here's the best part: I like shipping Tavi with other musical stallions, and I liked fics involving in-awe fans, etc. etc.

But I don't like this particular Frederic.
The author makes him seem like a jerk!
fonypag
#560616
9 months ago
@568

Why not empathize with him? By your own admission, coming clean with Octavia is a difficult thing for him to do, and the comic itself implies as much. That doing the hard thing to do is hard for him to do is supposed make me think he's a douche and a jerk? So he's not perfect, so what.
Anonymous
#560673
9 months ago
@568

Ok... first of all... where is it stated or implied that Frederic presumes that Octavia will do a 180 against Vinyl? I see no where in these blog responses that says or implies that Frederic thinks that the feeling is mutual.

It is OBVIOUSLY implied that Frederic thinks Octavia is dating Vinyl. So you think Frederic should just come clean to Octavia EVEN if she's dating someone else? Do you not realize how inconsiderate that is? It doesn't matter if you think she will jump in your arms or not you just don't ask someone out when they are already going out with someone.

That's just common courtesy.
Anonymous
#560706
9 months ago
@568

You are making SO many assumptions. Also you do realize that if you "come clean" to a girl and she completely doesn't share that feeling she can end up pushing you away? (the vise versa can be true as well... it's not a "girl" thing)

Maybe Frederic is afraid of that and he doesn't want to lose her as a friend? Why are you assuming that Frederic believes she will dump Vinyl for him?

Coming clean can ruin a variety of situations.... NOT NECESSARILY between Vinyl and Octavia. It can ruin a casual professional friendship between Octavia and Frederic. It can make Octavia feel awkward about working with Frederic because people (not girls... PEOPLE) who work with someone who's deeply in love with them but the feeling isn't mutual can feel extremely awkward.

I actually think Frederic is scared that Octavia won't share he feelings that's why he's not "coming clean" not because he's "protecting Octavia". Heck I scanned through ALL the tumblr responses and no where is it implied that Frederic is "keeping silent because he wants to protect Octavia".

You sir are looking a little too hard.
Lizardfolk
#560728
9 months ago
@568 Umm... didn't Frederic say "Maybe at a more appropriate time?" in the last panel? Which means he intends to tell Octavia but since Octavia is dating Vinyl it's "not the right time" yet...

So I REALLY dont see how Frederic is "keeping quiet to protect Octavia". No where is that implied at all.
Big_Hackint0sh
#562262
9 months ago
@Lizardfolk: The tumblr poster made the claim that he knew her for longer, which may not be true, but it looks like the rest of the panels were a reply to this. I think the issue is why not say something sooner (?)
Lizardfolk
#562408
9 months ago
@Big_Hackint0sh
i just chalk it up to frederic being too paralyzingly nervous cause i imagine his character to be like many classical composers who are usually socially awkward or socially dysfunctional people in real life

Beethovan had a few women who he "loved" but never really said anything throughout his life. The classical pianist (and genius) Glenn Gould was a shut in.

It's not that much different than your stereotypical socially dysfunctional nerd. Classical music takes so much dedication and time that many (not all of course) do not have much of a social life.

I dont think it's unreasonable to assume Frederic only has music in his life and this love he has for Octavia is the first time he's felt this way.
Doctor_Whooves
#562416
9 months ago
Octavia and Scratch are almost as univerally-liked as Lyra/Bon-Bon within the fandom. This dude hasn't got a chance; plus he has yet to grow a pair, anyway, apparently.
Lizardfolk
#562458
9 months ago
It's not that he doesn't want to talk to Octavia... i'm willing to bet this Frederic is a socially awkward classical genius musician. If this is the first time he's felt strongly about a girl it's only natural he'll have a hard time dealing with it.

You guys seem to love ignoring the "Maybe at a more appropriate time" comment lol. News flash people, spilling your guts all the time isn't the best way to go about everything. Frederic may have yet to "grow a pair" but he atleast is mature enough to realize there's a time and place for everything

Frederic's a nerd... /thread
Doctor_Whooves
#562479
9 months ago
There's not going to be a more appropriate time as long as Scratch is still around, as he isn't the type to want to rock a boat. All it would accomplish is causing Octavia distress, and if he genuinely likes her he's not gonna do that.

He should move on and forget about it.
Anonymous
#564564
9 months ago
^ indeed that's what the entire blog response was about :) Maybe he can hook up with Beauty Brass lol