
| PonyRIG #270244 1 year ago |
Crazy Mode activate |
| StreakTheFox #270262 1 year ago |
I now feel the desire to make a Moon Pie fanfic. (replace "Moon Pie" with "Cupcakes" and you will understand...) |
| DSF66 #270263 1 year ago |
Whoa, that's creepy D: |
| Lockstep #270272 1 year ago |
Celectia's a bit out of character, but otherwise I like it. Faust mentioned NMM being a result of "dark magic," and I like this explanation better than others that suggest an outside evil possessing her. |
| K_thanks #270275 1 year ago |
I always thought luna has something like a teenage depression :V |
| YenaMuffin #270305 1 year ago |
Oh hell YES! I thought I'd never see a comic like this, where it wasn't just a single action, but instead a number of things all happening at the same time that led to what happened. |
| AdrianBrony #270314 1 year ago |
I think this is kkind of a serious derailment of celestia. and I honestly don't like it when fans make her out to be the real villain. At worst, she would just be painfully oblivious until it was too late. whitewashing nightmare moon a bit too much as well. |
| Anonymous #270321 1 year ago |
Speaking as a teenager with depression, I wouldn't be to surprised. I'm kind of like that when off my meds. |
| Anonymous #270322 1 year ago |
Wow, this is really creepy.
Amazing job. |
| Strat #270331 1 year ago |
This makes a lot of sense except for Celestia's personality. Feels way too out of character for her. |
| YenaMuffin #270342 1 year ago |
@AdrianBrony I grudgingly have to agree with the thing of Celestia being harsh. When reading it, I had assumed that Celestia was either in the middle of something massively stressfull or busy. There's always a point where even the best of us snap at those we care for, even when we don't mean it the way we say it.
Still her wording is a bit too harsh to my taste. A lighter dismissal would have sufficed. |
| Sandman #270345 1 year ago |
@AdrianBrony: I actually don't think it's whitewashing Nightmare Moon. Being an outside influence according to Faust, how likely is it that she would be able to gain control if she just came in "Overthrow your sister! Eternal Night! Bwahahaha!" By acting sympathetic to Luna's plight she gains her trust and as well as planting the beginning of certain ideas in her head. She wouldn't be a good villain if she was stupid about her plan.
Though I agree that Celestia is a bit too much of an obnoxious older sister in this. Might have been a little better if she was busy with something and couldn't be disturbed. Of course this is something I love about the unknowns of the different characters, they leave so much to speculation, and even if they are absurdly outlandish they are still funny and hearing the convincing reasons behind them are amazing. |
| Anonymous #270348 1 year ago |
^Well pretty much in line with fanon's Tyrant Celestia interpretation. |
| Calpain #270349 1 year ago |
I agree, Strat. Besides that it's a rather good comic though. |
| Sandman #270368 1 year ago |
Forgot to discuss the comic it self, derp
The artwork is awesome, Luna is so expressive in this that I her emotions are almost palpable. The expressions for her hope and sadness are exceedingly so. Also impressed with how well you conveyed Nightmare Moon's emotion and tone of speech through so little detail. Reminds me of the Wallace and Grommet cartoons and how much you could get from a silent character with just the eyes. |
| Kein #270379 1 year ago |
@StreakTheFox
Read your "Moon Pie" as a Moe. WTH. Also, creepy Luna is creepy. |
| Bronyboy #270392 1 year ago |
Sad Luna makes us all sad. |
| Kein #270395 1 year ago |
@AdrianBrony
You must understand that not everyone is Lauren Faust. You need to be a genius like her to show the conflict without making someone from both sides are villain and tyrant. It's almost impossible. But when it's done... it's amazing. Look at the show Lauren created fro example. |
| Hex-Master #270403 1 year ago |
I think Luna just scared Nightmare Moon.
Uh-oh... |
| Anonymous #270404 1 year ago |
That's right, keep making comics about poor Luna only wanting attention and Celestia being selfish and cruel. I know Luna is sooo cute and all, but come on, this is seriously getting old. |
| Anonymous #270489 1 year ago |
I think it's more that back then they were a lot younger, as well as more prone to mistakes. However hindsight is 20/20, and we know that Celestia regretted her actions deeply.
On a related topic however, NMM being a separate aspect of Luna's personality and being the more calm and reasonable? Creepy awesome. |
| Anonymous #270786 1 year ago |
I can see this fitting into the canon.
The "evil magic"* creates Nightmare Moon as a separate personality to tempt her into becoming evil. She does this by being the kind, understanding mare we see in this pic. Eventually, it reaches the point where Nightmare Moon drops the act and takes over by force, and Luna is so consumed that she either doesn't notice, or doesn't care. As far as anypony knows and cares, by this point, there was no difference, there was only Nightmare Moon, as we saw her during FiM's 2-part pilot. And then fast forward 1,000 years to said pilot, and she's cured by the Elements of Harmony. Nightmare Moon is either locked away, or nearly extinguished. In either case, there is a small fear that Nightmare Moon will return somehow and re-take control of Luna's body, be it by her breaking free of her prison, if she was locked away, or by regaining enough power that she won't need to tempt Luna to gain control, if she was horribly weakened and possibly severely damaged, only surviving through Luna's personal memories of her. -------------------- * I refuse to say "Dark" as I am Dark myself and I'm Neutral Good. |
| Anonymous #271057 1 year ago |
This portrayal of Luna/NMM is the closest I've seen to what I've imagined them being. I've always thought that Luna is a sort of pony Norman Bates and NMM is "Mother". All we need now are violins. |
| WhiteSocks #271129 1 year ago |
And, thusly, the spirit of Nightmare Moon became a moot point as the Reign of Lunacy began. |
| Anonymous #271161 1 year ago |
I like the idea of Nightmare Moon being a result of "More Than Mind Control". Yes an outside source may have been involved, but Luna's own feelings had just as much to do with it. |
| Kein #271331 1 year ago |
@270786
Not really. Your ideas implies that evil magic was production of Luna, but in canon Luna isn't evil, as shown in ep02 and said by Lauren. Also, the same idea was played before: >>473 Celestia is too busy with royal duty for Luna and it affects the latter. I wonder if any artist or writer will be able to describe conflict in a different, unique and original way, when there won't be any villains or victims, when there will be both sides that suffers from that. May be Ego someday. |
| Anonymous #271354 1 year ago |
@Kein
(270786 here) Whoa, back up. I didn't say the evil magic was Luna's creation. Though I can see why my words could be interpreted that way. My mistake. Lauren said "evil magic" corrupted Luna and turned her into Nightmare Moon. I'm thinking Nightmare Moon started out as a voice and an image, and grew as Luna accepted her existence. As for who was behind the evil magic that was responsible for Nightmare Moon's existence, we'll have to wait and see. As for how this works with Luna saying in this comic that she made Nightmare Moon, it could be said that this was what Nightmare Moon told her, or something she believed to explain her presence. Perhaps it was both... |
| Lockstep #271375 1 year ago |
I like to think that Luna was behind the "evil magic," though not consciously. She was a powerful being who wasn't able to control her magic completely, so some of it turned into Nightmare Moon when she started becoming resentful. It then encouraged Luna's negative emotions, feeding itself until it became strong enough to take control. |
| Anonymous #271577 1 year ago |
To those who say Celestia is out of character here: yeah, she's out of her present-day character, after she's had a thousand years to mellow out, to gain wisdom and experience, and to come to regret exiling Luna for such a long time. |
| Anonymous #271903 1 year ago |
OH GOD IT'S DAVID BOWIE |
| Ponita #271933 1 year ago |
I consider this more or less plausible. No, this Celestia isn't very much like present day Celestia, but it's fair to assume that she has done some growing up in the meantime.
Think of how much you have matured in the last 20 years (or 10 for the younger bronies). I think Celestia is legitimately busy here, and she's probably a tad annoyed with Luna as well. She wasn't meant to rule alone, but rather with her sister. They created night and day together, they form the balance the world needs, but Luna doesn't seem to be doing her part, leaving most of the day to day work to Celestia. It also seems likely that Luna has been troubling her with increasingly unhinged requests, which Celestia has misinterpreted as childish. It also doesn't seem like Celestia has a habit of talking to Luna like that. Luna was, after all, very hopeful about it. She probably wouldn't be if she was treated in such a manner all the time. |
| makon30 #271938 1 year ago |
You're all just retarded bronies that can't accept a children's show as it was laid out... |
| makon30 #271942 1 year ago |
(I kid.) |
| Skoon #272003 1 year ago |
I really love this. And I don't think it's out of character for Celestia at all. Being a ruler is a terribly stressful job. |
| Calbeck #272184 1 year ago |
WwwwwwwOW. |
| CommandoDude #272501 1 year ago |
Who can really say it's out of character? A lot can change in 1000 years of self reflecting regret. |
| Anonymous #273099 1 year ago |
@makon30
Yyyyyyeah... not a wise thing to joke about. |
| fixman88 #273223 1 year ago |
*hugs Luna tight* |
| JacobEllinger #274857 1 year ago |
"Dear sister,
Your words are like honey poisoned with wormwood - sweet to the ear, but bitter in the end. I'd smite thee in thy breast were it that you had a heart; you may raise the sun but your veins are full of ice, you may be a goddess but you are more like a devil, your coat may be white but inside you are as black as sin. This prison you have sent me to may be dark and cold... but not as dark or as cold as you. ~Princess Luna" |
| Anonymous #277040 1 year ago |
I suffer from a depression, going strong for the fifth year, and I saw this comic through luna's eyes and not like a third person - Celestia was out of character, yes, but when you're feeling neglected and unwanted, little comments can get a whole different meaning than intended. I often find myself more easily hurt, despite the person not intending for it to be hurtful. |
| Anonymous #277874 1 year ago |
being a god and one of the 3 immortals of Equestria and still get called "little" |
| Anonymous #278757 1 year ago |
I think it's out of character for Celestia, but I also think this comic is told from Luna's point of view. That's probably how she PERCEIVED the conversation.
I also think the age difference is exaggerated, but that could also be how Luna perceives their relationship. |
| coonk9 #281916 1 year ago |
Luna- "Luuuuna.. what is wrong my love.. why do you crieses?" Nobody appreciates my precious night. "Of course they dont.. i told you they were tricksy.. told you they were false! "but.. they're my friends..." you dont have any friends.. nobody likes you. Thats why you were completely forgotten during season 1 "I'm not listening to you la la la la la lal al!" thats why Hasbro never thought to make a figure or even ANY merchandise with your likeness. Only the freaks like the night! "STOP IT STOP IT! I HATES YOU!" ha without me.. they wouldnt even know your name. you apeared for what 10seconds of airtime.. but I.. I was the focal point of the entire pilot! "NO!" Yes.. evil is more fun. As the villan you and I were far more interesting and engageing to the audience then little Luna ever was! "NONONONONO its not... yur right precious.. you were always right. "It is.. Inevitable." what is precious? "I dont know.. i just always wanted to say that." what should i do moonie. "first of all DONT EVER CALL ME THAT AGAIN! second of all quit sniveling like a little filly and be a mare aboutit! finally.. become the villian again.. and those FOALS will have no choice but to respect and admire you." Well.. maybe.. i dunknow though.. what do supervillans usually do? i dont want to make it night forever again. The earth would die. "lets make MOONPIES out of them all hahahahahahahahahaha!"
Luna- 0.0 Yeah right, i may be crazy but i aint no damn psycho.. you go splat now! (puts hoof through the mirrior) aw hell.. maybe I'll just turn all the Celly figures from white TO PINK so maybe she'll loose all the bronys in her fanbase! what do you think Mr moonrock (adopts insane pinkamena smile and eyes retreat to either side of her face http://ponibooru.413chan.net/post/view/35829?search=luna ) moonrock1- an excellent idea Luna. moonrock2- oh yes yes lets and also post lots of trollestia pics to humanborru, h-chan, hu-affinity, Celestiantart and fetlock_fetish_luvrs.com moonrock3- and molestia picks.. dont forget the molestia pics. moonrock4- equestria we have a problem.. the lunar module just landed on my face. Luna- yes... wait wat 0_o moonrock4- It's time to embrace the horror harry we got front row seats to end of the world! Luna- waht are you... whos harry!? moonrock4- Luna.. I am your father. Luna- no.. no thats not true.. THATS IMPOSSIBLE! moonrock4- search your feelings you KNOW it to be true. Luna- NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! moonrock4- SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE! Luna- (levitates a revolver and draws back the hammer with her magic) moonrock4- I'm doing this.. has hard as i can! Luna- (fires and blasts the rock to peices silencing it forever in her mind) oh shit.. lets just do what we always do, hijack a nuclear weapon and hold equestria hostage.. sound good. Moonrock2- not a bad idea Dr Equine but might i sugest something a little less.. drastic. We dont want a Austin Powers/ 007 parody on our hooves now do we? Luna- you might be right #2. How bout this then? lets just kidnap twilight Sparkle and make her my sex slave. thats fun for everybody right? (cheers and aplause erupt in her mind) and she would look so cute in an Austin Powers costume and glasses (clops her hooves together in exitement) my own little dressup pony hahahahahahahahaahaha! Nightmare Moon- (stares with disgust at her host from the shards of broken glass) idiot.. thats it i'm out of here. |
| JacobEllinger #282000 1 year ago |
[q=coonk9]Luna- "Luuuuna.. what is wrong my love.. why do you crieses?" Nobody appreciates my precious night. "Of course they dont.. i told you they were tricksy.. told you they were false! "but.. they're my friends..." you dont have any friends.. nobody likes you. Thats why you were completely forgotten during season 1 "I'm not listening to you la la la la la lal al!" thats why Hasbro never thought to make a figure or even ANY merchandise with your likeness. Only the freaks like the night! "STOP IT STOP IT! I HATES YOU!" ha without me.. they wouldnt even know your name. you apeared for what 10seconds of airtime.. but I.. I was the focal point of the entire pilot! "NO!" Yes.. evil is more fun. As the villan you and I were far more interesting and engageing to the audience then little Luna ever was! "NONONONONO its not... yur right precious.. you were always right. "It is.. Inevitable." what is precious? "I dont know.. i just always wanted to say that." what should i do moonie. "first of all DONT EVER CALL ME THAT AGAIN! second of all quit sniveling like a little filly and be a mare aboutit! finally.. become the villian again.. and those FOALS will have no choice but to respect and admire you." Well.. maybe.. i dunknow though.. what do supervillans usually do? i dont want to make it night forever again. The earth would die. "lets make MOONPIES out of them all hahahahahahahahahaha!"
Luna- 0.0 Yeah right, i may be crazy but i aint no damn psycho.. you go splat now! (puts hoof through the mirrior) aw hell.. maybe I'll just turn all the Celly figures from white TO PINK so maybe she'll loose all the bronys in her fanbase! what do you think Mr moonrock (adopts insane pinkamena smile and eyes retreat to either side of her face http://ponibooru.413chan.net/post/view/35829?search=luna ) moonrock1- an excellent idea Luna. moonrock2- oh yes yes lets and also post lots of trollestia pics to humanborru, h-chan, hu-affinity, Celestiantart and fetlock_fetish_luvrs.com moonrock3- and molestia picks.. dont forget the molestia pics. moonrock4- equestria we have a problem.. the lunar module just landed on my face. Luna- yes... wait wat 0_o moonrock4- It's time to embrace the horror harry we got front row seats to end of the world! Luna- waht are you... whos harry!? moonrock4- Luna.. I am your father. Luna- no.. no thats not true.. THATS IMPOSSIBLE! moonrock4- search your feelings you KNOW it to be true. Luna- NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! moonrock4- SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE! Luna- (levitates a revolver and draws back the hammer with her magic) moonrock4- I'm doing this.. has hard as i can! Luna- (fires and blasts the rock to peices silencing it forever in her mind) oh shit.. lets just do what we always do, hijack a nuclear weapon and hold equestria hostage.. sound good. Moonrock2- not a bad idea Dr Equine but might i sugest something a little less.. drastic. We dont want a Austin Powers/ 007 parody on our hooves now do we? Luna- you might be right #2. How bout this then? lets just kidnap twilight Sparkle and make her my sex slave. thats fun for everybody right? (cheers and aplause erupt in her mind) and she would look so cute in an Austin Powers costume and glasses (clops her hooves together in exitement) my own little dressup pony hahahahahahahahaahaha! Nightmare Moon- (stares with disgust at her host from the shards of broken glass) idiot.. thats it i'm out of here.[/q] this is so long . . .wtf did I just read? |
| coonk9 #307436 1 year ago |
Well hay Jake why then did you re post the whole thing if you thought it was too long to begin with? |
| Anonymous #918963 5 months ago |
What I got from this comic was that Nightmare Moon, or "Moony" as Luna calls her, was created as a companion for Luna. Perhaps at this stage in her life she actually was nice, but something caused her to become more like the Nightmare Moon we know.
As for Luna herself, she looks sleep deprived. Obviously she can't be thinking coharently and would be more unhinged than ususal. |