
| Anonymous #474373 10 months ago |
*Kuuga Thumbs Up* |
| Anonymous #474383 10 months ago |
*Agito Thumbs Up* |
| Anonymous #474388 10 months ago |
*Gills Thumbs Up* |
| Anonymous #474393 10 months ago |
*Ryuki Thumbs Up Vent* |
| Anonymous #474397 10 months ago |
This is good. |
| Anonymous #474399 10 months ago |
I... damn.
This really puts into perspective how Discord broke the Mane Six. I honestly shed a tear, is that strange? |
| EP #474406 10 months ago |
*Decade thumbs up, then FFRs Anon 474373 into a fling robo-beetle and RIDES TO VICTORY* |
| Anonymous #474425 10 months ago |
That's some powerful stuff right there. |
| Anonymous #474461 10 months ago |
Excelent job! Rarity looks really jewish. |
| Anonymous #474531 10 months ago |
Very visually effective. |
| Anonymous #474540 10 months ago |
^ Middle Finger Up ! |
| Anonymous #474566 10 months ago |
Wow, this is excellent. You'd think I'd come to expect stuff like this from the community by now, but it's still a wonderful surprise every time. |
| ComradeIota #474591 10 months ago |
*Faiz Exceed Thumbs Up* |
| dudemang #474619 10 months ago |
i still think rainbow dash's is a bit iffy |
| Anonymous #474889 10 months ago |
@dudemang
She was presented with a Sadistic Choice, Save Cloudsdale or Help her friends. Which would you do? With the ability to guarantee one of them right in front of her, it only took a tiny nudge with the mindwarp mojo to get her to choose. |
| Anonymous #475274 10 months ago |
Great work. |
| Lancer #475661 10 months ago |
And then "Element of Cruelty" said "I shall be cruel to my enemy, Discord." "Element of Greed" said "I shall seize my enemy Discord's power" "Element of Dishonesty" said "I shall deceive my enemy, Discord." "Element of Suffering" said "I have suffered before and I can use it against my enemy, Discord." and Rainbow Dash said "I have been tricked, but I shall have my revenge against Discord."
Oh, look. They are in harmony. |
| PyroPower #475809 10 months ago |
*Kabuto Thumbs Up* |
| asia_catdog_blue #475874 10 months ago |
Wow. Discord really left a stin on Celestia's Best Six.
Everytime I think of what he did, Madoka Magica comes into mind. |
| zralf #475953 10 months ago |
i got nerdchills. |
| Anonymous #475999 10 months ago |
BLACK RX *single nod* |
| Anonymous #476126 10 months ago |
And then a brony horde beated discord's ass and they were friends again
The End |
| Glord #476276 10 months ago |
I agree with anon 476126.
Let's beat his shit into oblivion. |
| Artencot_Arken #476407 10 months ago |
twilight isn't alone, though their mind have been tamperd with, the real ones are lock away, they still cheer for her, twilight will never be alone |
| NekoLLX #476470 10 months ago |
@ Anon 889 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XKDsVMHSXs |
| dudemang #476535 10 months ago |
She was presented with a Sadistic Choice,
Save Cloudsdale or Help her friends. Which would you do? With the ability to guarantee one of them right in front of her, it only took a tiny nudge with the mindwarp mojo to get her to choose. Which is precisely why I'm not sure how the situation presented was necessarily contrary to Dash's loyalty. Applejack and Pinkie Pie were hurt personally in some way that led them to believe their element wasn't worth having, Rarity succumbed to superficial tendencies she had in the first place (though she did resist). Discord fabricated a false pretense, most likely, but how does that necessarily run counter to loyalty? Is her element simply loyalty to friends (which might have rendered her boasting about being "loyal to the princess" useless), and not a core value of her character? Can it not be extended to her hometown? I can see the argument behind leaving her friends, but I just don't really agree with seeing that as loyalty's antithesis. She should've probably had an illusion where her friends treated her like dirt despite her helping them, questioning whether her loyalty meant anything. |
| NekoLLX #477060 10 months ago |
it has more to do with the rules of the game, by being loyal to her home she willingly forfits the game, she should know that has dire consequeces. Also I'm not completly sure that Was RD we saw fly away. i mean DisQuard can shapeshift and never saw them simutaniously |
| Necroceine #477198 10 months ago |
Then where would Dash have gone? She wasn't there when the hedge maze was leveled, and Discord was. And that would mean that they never actually broke the rules. Sure Discord didn't play fair, but I'd bet anything he really did manipulate Dash into leaving. In fact I'm sure that that was his plan all along. He went for Dash last because he wanted to break the others first, making Twilight's element useless. |
| dudemang #478174 10 months ago |
it has more to do with the rules of the game, by being loyal to her home she willingly forfits the game, she should know that has dire consequeces.
More dire than staying and possibly putting Cloudsdale, her hometown, in danger? (Which, again, I'll emphasize is most likely a lie.) Though I'm not arguing that Cloudsdale is more important than the whole of Equestria (it might be to Rainbow Dash, but that's still neither here nor there). I guess that the only argument I could really make in favor is that the Elements of Harmony only work within the context of the overall friendship - but does that mean to imply they aren't harmonious elements even to those not in a friendship? If Fluttershy were cruel to anyone who was not her friend, would she still be considered the Element of Kindness because she was kind to Twilight and company? If Rarity were only generous to those she considered friends, would she still bear the Element of Generosity? All signs seem to point to no. When Twilight was asserting the presence of the elements, Fluttershy and Rarity's proving moments were those when dealing with the manticore and Steven Magnet - an ostensible foe and a troubled stranger, respectively. This seems to suggest that the Elements of Harmony reflect more an innate character of the pony in question. (Maybe the exception being Magic/Friendship, because it exists in necessary relation to the others.) So, then, back to my original question, which still bugs me: How was Dash leaving her friends the necessary opposite to loyalty if she was leaving under the pretense to protect her hometown? Now, it may not have been the best thing to do under the circumstance, I'll say that, but Dash probably panicked at the vision of Cloudsdale's collapse and acted on impulse, which would have been in character for her, however unfortunate. But it doesn't seem to me that it would contradict loyalty, just merely pit it between two goods that she had to choose. If her loyalty was only good in the context of her friends, well... I'd have to say that while it's in line with the show's theme, I don't think it jives with what we've seen of how the elements work. It just bugs me, that's all. |
| Anonymous #480660 10 months ago |
Dudemang: i always thought that that was the point. Discord is possibly a Chimera, and in the Greek myths a Chimera was only beaten by some guy riding a Pegasus. Fluttershy's was brute forced, but Rainbow dash maybe the only one where her element is still present. The only thing I can think of is at the beginning of the episode Dash mentioned not leaving her friends while cloudsdale dealt with a cola storm-but I don't think any of her friends would have minded if she left to help her hometown. I don't think dash lost her element at all-I think Discord was just doing a force-end to his game so he could get onto something else he found amusing. |
| Zorae #482094 10 months ago |
@dudemang
1. Cloudsdale is inhabited by flying ponies, I doubt many would get hurt. 2. What could Rainbow Dash do to save a crumbling city? Not like she has magic or anything. 3. Discord isn't all that trustworthy anyways. (In fact, by not defeating him Discord is around and could choose to destroy Cloudsdale whenever he feels like it). 4. She made her friends forfeit the game and abandoned them to deal chaos all by themselves. She basically did the same thing Lando did in Star Wars - sold her friends out to an untrustworthy, evil dictator in exchange for a false promise of the protection of her city. Her friends trusted her to be there and help them defeat Discord, and she betrayed them. |
| FlarityinstaFav #482619 10 months ago |
The feeling I got from Dicord's 'tests' was more like he was doing it for the laughs.
Draw them in with something comforting and familiar, then use a twisted extention of that to either make them doupt themselves or give into an old vice and BLAM! Mind control them while they're down. He made Applejack fear that the truth about her friends' feelings for eachother might not be something good, might end up ruining their friendship. Make Liarjack Pinkie is already afraid of being excluded from her friends, so he just made her wonder if they were realy laughing WITH her, instead of at her. Make Paranoid Pie. Part of what makes Rarity the element of Generosity is the fact that she can see the value of things, and holds them precious, so it realy is a sacrifice for her to give them up. This means that she can be generous because she is greedy. Discord tempts her with diamond(s) and nabbs her when that greedy part of her wakes up. Make Greedity. Fluttershy... my personal theory is that she is kind and quiet because some part of her is obsessive and forcefull, and she's afraid of that side of herself, not because others were cruel to her. So Discord got the wrong angle when he went after her, trying to make her feel abandoned and vengeful towards the others when she is just grateful that her friends have stuck with her as long as they have. So, skip the laughs, staight mind control. Make CruelShy. Now Rainbow dash...is a bit dificult. Here's another theory. Her loyalty is the result of her underlying insecurities. Deep down, there's a nagging thought that says "RainbowCrash, your gonna let eveyone down.." So Dash tries her hardest NOT to EVER leave anyone she cares for hanging, hoping they wont prove her doupts right and tell she's a failure. After being stuck in the maze for who knows how long, her fears of letting the others down are growing "what if I cant get to center of maze? What if they're already all there, waiting for me, and I'm still miles away? What if I screw up our chance to get back the elements?" So then a choice, keep this up and go on wandering through a giant maze, or get back your wings, her point of pride and confidence, and go save your home town? For a moment, Dash would have thought just how dissapointed and confused the ponies of a supposedly ruined Cloudsdale would be when they heard that the mare who pulled of a sonic rainboom, saving four ponies, had been to buisy admireing the royal grounds to help them. She feel insecure and unsure for a moment. Make Disloyal-to-friends Dash. And without her friends, Twilight gets lost. She was fine before she met them, kinda, but now she's used to have them backing her up, keeping her in check and on stride. Being with their inverse persona's makes her feel alone again, and anyway, without their friendship they can't use the elements, can't stop Discord, and she'll end up letting Celestia down. (gasp) that was more writing than I thought it woulb be... gods I can't wait for the next episode so smash my idea into little bitesizes bits of harmony.. Love the Picture, by the way. Heheh. |
| NekoLLX #483745 10 months ago |
On the point of "where's dash" i just assumed "behind the black" I'm hoping that if this proves true (and now that her wings were restored at Gambit's End) she charge down and hoof smack Discord from of camera...maybe carrying all 6 elements with her (cause discord already "won" and doesn't need to hid them anymore) |
| dudemang #483852 10 months ago |
@Zorae
1. Cloudsdale is inhabited by flying ponies, I doubt many would get hurt. Maybe, maybe not. I'm not sure if the vision given to Dash was literal or symbolic. Perhaps we don't actually know the nature of the threat against Cloudsdale (if any at all). 2. What could Rainbow Dash do to save a crumbling city? Not like she has magic or anything. Her passive pegasi magic doesn't count? She basically did the same thing Lando did in Star Wars - sold her friends out to an untrustworthy, evil dictator in exchange for a false promise of the protection of her city. Her friends trusted her to be there and help them defeat Discord, and she betrayed them. See, I can see and agree with that being not a good thing to do. But that gives an unnecessary slant to the 'friends' aspect, which I mentioned above, doesn't seem to be the defining aspect of being an Element of Harmony. If she were still loyal to Cloudsdale, then as far as I can tell, she should still be an Element. But she's still discolored by Discord, implying she's not. It seems discrepant. I can agree that leaving her friends was not the right thing to do in that context. But the way I see it, the only way Dash could have possibly run counter to her Element was to betray her friends for her own sake, not for the sake of defending her possibly (not so) endangered hometown. In the end, I think it's going to boil down to a difference in philosophical attitudes. Dash did leave her friends, no question, but I don't think that makes her disloyal, not necessarily, anyhow (the question is how she'll handle it ultimately). The show's portraying it otherwise, and then there's the Lando comparison (which would totally make for an awesome picture). |
| Anonymous #487761 10 months ago |
I think that the reason why they did loyalty to Cloudsdale vs loyalty for her friends/Equestria is because like Fluttershy her Element is a bit harder to turn around for her as it's a bigger part of her character than Applejack (bigger importance on family and working), Rarity (fashion is her big thing), and Pinkie (harder to say, but she's more crazy and fun than making ponies laugh), though Dash puts more emphasis on bravery than loyalty.
I personally think that the 'touch of Discord' is a once per day kind of thing, so he had to get more creative making Dash turn against her Element so rather than make her choice "loyal or not", he went with "Cloudsdale or friends". |
| Anonymous #487984 10 months ago |
Applejack fell to Discord only because she was too apples for apples to apples.
Honestly (no pun intended), who would listen to a talking pile of apples? |
| biojal #675263 8 months ago |
*Plays FFIX*
'I'm not alone!' |