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Gittonsxv
#293094
1 year ago
LOL XD
marioandsonic
#293110
1 year ago
rofl
Trombe
#293134
1 year ago
Okay.
Anonymous
#293174
1 year ago
Who the fuck is Nyx and why isn't this tagged "oc"?
Anonymous
#293185
1 year ago
Nyx is Nightmare Moon 2.0 from the "past sins" fanfic
DaisyHead
#293187
1 year ago
nyx is nightmare moon as a filly. read the Past Sins fic on Eqd.
DaisyHead
#293190
1 year ago
DAMMIT!
teko
#293206
1 year ago
best fanfic. chap. 10 so sad T-T
Draconaes
#293226
1 year ago
How come I can't favorite this more than once?
RyuSpike
#293231
1 year ago
Nyx is from the fanfic Past Sins. Being Nightmare Moon reborn as a cute little filly was all she needed to become everyone's favorite OC.
Anonymous
#293263
1 year ago
Moar like everyone's favorite Mary Sue amirite.
Anonymous
#293284
1 year ago
Nah, your wrong :P
Anonymous
#293363
1 year ago
Nyx is an OC when she isn't at the same time if catch my Drift. As before mentioned she is essentially Nightmare Moon Reborn. I can see where people can Start to call her a Mary Sue. Due to her being an alicorn and having Twilight's blood. But she isn't a self insert and her abilities in magic are needed due to the cults spell and purpose.
Anonycat
#293418
1 year ago
Then she is a Mare Sue.
Anonymous
#293427
1 year ago
^ This is exactly what I was thinking. Yes, she's an alicorn, but in a way that fits into the story and isn't powerful for the sake of just having a character who's powerful. She's more like an expanded personality of an existing character - Nightmare Moon - than anything else.
Anonymous
#293447
1 year ago
SENSE!

this makes none.
Anonymous
#293553
1 year ago
@363: Wait, she's Twilight's magical virgin spawn too? Sweet Celestia, it's even worse than I thought. Remind me never to read Jim Henson's Nightmare Moon Babies.
Anonymous
#293683
1 year ago
Cue Panty & Stocking
Anonymous
#293975
1 year ago
^^^^Being a third alicorn, a cliched amnesiac, or technically being Twilight's daughter is not the only thing that makes her a Sue. As NM reborn she has a radically different personality from NM, who's basically Satan in the show and confirmed by Faust to be a result of evil magic. Her voice is described as neraly angelic. Rarity thinks she's stunningly beautiful. She has a very different appearence from everyone else. Twilight "adopts" her despite a) for the most part that she is NM, who tried to kill her before, and Rarity pointed it out, b) she doesn't even know her, and c) keeping her a secret from Celestia despite knowing better, and again assuming the worst from Celestia despite being proven wrong in the series. In the early chapters she essentially has no personality and yet the author expects us to feels sorry for her. I don't buy it, she's a Sue through and through, only she's missing is being Spike's girlfriend or something.
Anonymous
#293978
1 year ago
^knowing for the most part that she is NM
Anonymous
#294151
1 year ago
Moar like everyone's favorite Mary Sue amirite.

^ Indeed. Fuck nix and fuck past sins.
Anonymous
#294235
1 year ago
oh holy fuck I laughed like a girl at this :D
Anonymous
#294406
1 year ago
FUKKEN SOCKS !!!!!!!
Oh-noes
#294435
1 year ago
anon51, you to happen to sound UPSET
ponybrohoof
#294447
1 year ago
more Nyx more Twi MORE socks :3

thx ^^ love & peace
Kooner
#294469
1 year ago
Nyx + twi + sock = yay :3
Anonymous
#295153
1 year ago
@975 The only reason she is an amnesiac and has different personality is because the Transfiguration spell was interrupted by Celestia. Had it been completed which it was eventually in chapter 10. you would have seen Nightmare Moon in her full glory. As for her exotic appearances of course she's gonna look different she's Nightmare Moon how else is she gonna look? Like a normal joe schmoe pony? As for Twilight taking her home. I don't think she'd abandon any filly in the forest just to fend for herself. As for Twilight keeping her a secret from Celestia she covered for Fluttershy when Philomena. She feared FS getting banished. And everybody has a bit of fear of the Sun Princess. It wasn't the first Twilight assumed the worst would happen when Celestia found out about something
Anonymous
#295230
1 year ago
I lold About this Comic with Socks.
Because every sock makes a pony 20% cooler.
Anonymous
#296047
1 year ago
@153
Regardless of whether she's based on NM or not, an usual exotic appearance is still one of the main qualitites of a sue.
No, I won't read to chapter 10 because if a fic sucks in the beginning, there's no reason to think it will get better after 10 chapters.
I never suggested that Twi abandon Nyx, though I understand the confusion. What Twi could have done is taken her to Ponyville, and, say, gather her friends to decide what to do. Or call the Mayor. Or ask Celestia. She pretty much knew Nyx is NM, who, again, is a near-Satanic figure who tried to kill her before. Not to mention she has no experience caring for a filly.
Still, you'd think Twi would've learned about having an overactive imagination, as Fluttershy called it, and assuming the worst from Celestia, whom as far as we know has never committed a tyrannical, injust action in her life.
You still haven't addressed Nyx's stupidly beautiful voice or appearance, which is a requirement for Sue status.
Anonymous
#296849
1 year ago
As for her appearance she's supposed to be a resurrected goddess
Anonymous
#297739
1 year ago
Perhaps Twilight blood had something to do with the fact that she kept Nyx as a secret for so long and for her acting so irrationally?
Anonymous
#297977
1 year ago
I laugh at the people hating on Nyx, just because of the way she is.

"Fuck Nyx, Fuck Past Sins"? What, you got a grudge against a fanfic and a pseudo OC? You might as well be as crazy as oatmeal.

LOL. Chillax, it's not like she's even going to be in the show, let alone ruin your life.

Besides: Love & Tolerance are the two morals Bronies should go by. I'd say you lack a little bit of both, silly anons. :)
Anonymous
#297982
1 year ago
^Also,

So much rage from reading a fanfic. I know Bronies are into their stuff, but that is taking it WAY out there and going past the bounds of L&T.

When the second season's cancelled, THAT'S when you rage.

~Kaizer T.
RyuSpike
#298361
1 year ago
Hmm... A lot of people getting angry over a character who is more of a living plot device than a Mary Sue like everybody is accusing her to be. If Nyx was truly of Mary Sue status then Past Sins would be a very different tale. Nyx serves as the story's doomsday device that, if in the hoofs of the antagonists, will result in the creation of the main conflict: the revival of Nightmare Moon. While she may carry some of the common Sue traits that many of you pointed out, however, those traits aren't so grating that the story suffers from them. In fact, unlike many character more fitting of Sue status, Nyx isn't even the main character of Past Sins! Twilight Sparkle takes that spot while Nyx plays her role as the plot device needed to move the story along. Twilight is the one who struggles throughout the story and the one who has been going through character development. Nyx just goes around being cute and causes trouble for Twilight. Twilight is the one who has to face the conflict and she is the one who solves them. As Mary Sues go, Nyx is terrible at being the ultimate solution when she's Twilight's ultimate problem. The only thing left to dispell this filly's Mary Sueness completely is to explain why she can be loved by everypony (except for Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon obviously) without having Sue powers. Hmm... um... *takes off Nyx's glasses* She's Nightmare Moon in filly form. Nightmare Moon Evil. Let's form a mob. *watches as all of Ponyville form into a mob with pitchforks and torches* ...Eeyup. That is the best I got for that. Nyx just borders into Sue territory at the moment with that bit. It can be explained, but not enough to convince everyone. So that ends why Nyx is a plot device character. I haven't read chapter 11 and up yet, but I am hoping this story leads to a sad ending. If it ends on a happy note where Nyx gets to be alive and living in Ponyville with Twilight as her alicorn self... I'll have to drink glass shards for spending this much time and effort towards defending her -__-;
Anonymous
#298504
1 year ago
^

A medal. Give this man one.
Anonymous
#298661
1 year ago
^nope.avi
^^
Uh, Nyx is one of the two main characters of the story alongside Twilight. The entire plot happened because of her. One of the main questions of the plot is whether she will become evil again or not. If that's not main character status I don't know what is. Main characters and living McGuffins are not mutually exclusive.
If you like a Sue and don't think she's annoying, that's fine, but it doesn't change the fact that she is a Sue, and that people will feel that the story suffers from it, if they even bother to read it further.
You call it character development, I call it character derailment. Since when has Twi ever had maternal instinct? She doesn't even treat SPIKE as a son. The "she's Twilight's blood" excuse doesn't really work, since as you know relationships aren't always determined by that.
So if Nyx wasn't inexplicably likeable to the main cast, Ponyville would go Frankenstien on her? That's a bit of a stretch for a non-grimdark fic.
Again, still waiting for the Sue-tiful voice and appearance.
^^^You just NOW noticed most Bronies are way too invested in this fandom? Bro, have you been paying attention to this fandom at all? For the record I consider myself a casual fan, since I've never lost sleep over this fandom. I just like where this friendly debate is going. ;)
Anonymous
#298668
1 year ago
^And another thing: Ponyville forming a lynch mob? Please. They all crapped themselves over a lone harmless zebra. Would they really pursue the reincarnation of Satan?
Anonymous
#298692
1 year ago
To all those who argue Nyx is not a Sue simply because she's technically Nightmare Moon, a canonical character:
There is an article on tvtropes called Canon Sue. As the name implies, it's Mary Sues who are official characters, meaning they cannot be exempt from Sue status.
A perfect, fairly well-known example? Bella, protagonist of the Twilight series. Dumb as a post and half as likable? Check. Attracts the love and affection of numerous males, including a sparkly vampire and an Indian werewolf? Beloved by all of the cast? Check. Inexplicably immune to telepathy? Check. No personality? Check. Badly written? Check. A blatant self-insert of the author and the intended audience? Check.
So do you still want to argue Canon characters, or ocs based on them cannot be Sues? Didn't think so.
Anonymous
#299358
1 year ago
^Still, that doesn't excuse how horrendously violent some Bronies are against her.

I know saying she's part of a fanfiction (which she is, really; disregarding her true identity as NM) will get me stoned one way or another, but that's the matter of the fact:

She's a pseudo OC in a FANFICTION. Getting all up in arms about her's kinda silly, in my opinion.
RyuSpike
#299466
1 year ago
@Anon661 I agree that Nyx is actually a main character along side Twilight. Seems like I misspoken a bit when discussing that part. I didn't intend on making her out as purely an object. Her character role is important and is the main focus of the story, but she is fitted in the center between the conflict and the hero. So as far as main characters go, Twilight is the hero while Nyx is the victim. Hopefully that is clearer.
On the subject of Twilight Sparkle's maternal instincts, I have to disagree. She has shown a maternal side of her in the cartoon, especially in "Owl's Well That Ends Well". She scolded Spike for lying in a very motherly fashion, and she comforted the baby dragon in a way that most scholars and assistants aren't suppose to share together. A similar relationship that Celestia and Twilight share so it's obvious her help Twilight develop this nature she has with her own assistant. The story did a good job pushing at this part of Twilight's personality and made that mothering part of her grow. So there was no 'derailment' of her character.
Lastly, yeah, now that you mention it, I doubt the ponies of Ponyville couldn't rally against Nightmare Moon if their life depended on it. However, I do wonder if they will show a braver face if they find that a Nightmare Filly is far less dangerous to battle.

@Anon692 Have to agree with you there. Saying that Nyx can't be a Sue because she is Nightmare Moon is a weak agruement. Nyx was created in Past Sins alone and does not share canon with the show itself. Her connection to the show's Nightmare Moon is based on the fact that she is that Moon's reincarnation. This makes Nyx AND Nightmare Moon of Past Sins and the original Nightmare Moon completely different characters. With that established, Nyx's character can be examined fairly based solely on the story's given material rather than the show's.

Due to the example that Anon692 gave about that Other Twilight, I believe to have came to a better understanding on how Nyx does not fit into what is considered Mary Sue. When it comes appearances, being a miniture Moon limits her to being just that. Not strong enough proof Mary Sueism there. The voice being like a glass harp is an interesting note, but overall not very important. Nopony seems to be constantly talking her voice or her appearance, (other than how much she resembled Nightmare Moon during a play) and never won anybody's favor because of her physical form. Nyx had gained her friends from her own merit rather than looks. The way she gained these friends were also protrayed realistically where she became friends with Apple Bloom after getting bullied by Diamond and Spoon. If those two didn't pick on Nyx then Apple Bloom wouldn't have introduced Twist and herself to her according to the context of the chapter they met. It also took her within a months time her to join the Cutie Mark Crusaders which is reasonable time for a group of friends to accept somebody new into their group. Her connection with Twilight also makes it easy for to get along with the mane six, although, most of their interactions are mainly kept out of sight for the reader. So likability is explainable and her appearance doesn't deal any damage to the reader's suspension of disbelief.

Now something else that isn't about Nyx but affects whether or not she is a Sue. That is Twilight's choice of keeping her true nature a secret and not telling Princess Celestia or her friends (other than Rarity) about her the moment she got back in town. The reason why she kept her in her home is believable, but not informing anybody else is what seems to be suspending those bronies' disbelief way too high. The given reason why chose not to do the smart thing was because she was afraid that Celestia will banish Nyx without giving her a chance. Following the belief that her teacher would not be a reasonable or kind pony despite having known her far more personally than anypony else. She has done this many times in the cartoon, but some are saying that she learned her lesson by the season's end and that Twilight's doubt is unreasonable. In context of the story she didn't learn that lesson. As far as we can tell from the show, no clarification has been made that she did stop this behavior so it is having it in fanfiction is believable. As for her friends, however, this does leave too much space between us and our beliefs. Twilight and her friends are very closely knitted at this point so sharing secrets shouldn't be all that hard. Four of them are good at keeping their mouths shut with Rainbow Dash being the most likely pony to spill the beans. This is seen during episodes where her brash outbursts result in her getting glared at. Atleast Pinkie can keep from spoilling the surprise. Rainbow aside, the other four could be easily told. As the story goes, the reason Twilight gave is the best we got for this arguement. Not a strong point for the Anti-Sue cause.

So there we have it. My further insight on the matter. While Nyx may have more power than some of the other characters in the story, it doesn't put her into the Mary Sue territory. She just skims around the edge tempting fate until Twilight takes her away and grounds her for being too risky. The reasons behind her being called a Sue are too weak at this point. She needs to accomplish something too outragous for this to happen. Until then I can say that her sudden popularity and Past Sins's is due to her character being written well. This also proves that I have too much free time talking about fictional ponies. Hoping that this is enough to make you all think about the subject of Mary Sues more carefully as pointing fingers can be a bit too presumptuous.
Anonymous
#299482
1 year ago
You know, aren't we kind of missing the point of the story itself? It's not that Twilight has a daughter, it's whether or not someone as evil as NM can be redeemed if given a second chance.

Also, why are we having this discussion on an "adventure meme" pic?
Anonymous
#299652
1 year ago
Because people are weird myself included *Grabs socks and flies away*
Anonymous
#299865
1 year ago
^
Mostly because after work I have too much time on my hands, and since nobody has asked to take this debate somewhere else like, say, a forum or chatroom.
I'll deal with Ryu's wall of text tomorrow or so, I'm sleepy and I probably have to scan over the story to keep up the debate. Though anypony else is more than welcome to reply first.
^^^^
Maybe I'm not looking in the right places or reading through enough comments, but the worst anti-Nyx sentiment I've seen is "fuck nyx", along with Sue accusations. I haven't seen any, say, fics or arts where Nyx gets butchered Cupcakes-style by Pinkie Pie or things of that nature(hey I just got a great idea to piss off/horrify Nyx fanbois.)
Remember man, getting up in arms and generating drama over fictional characters is one of the pillars of Bronydom, neigh, of the Internet in general. Remember Skywind? The Cupcakes version of Pinkie Pie? For all our talk of love and tolerance we're not that much different from other nerdy fandoms, just a bit more vocal.
Anonymous
#299879
1 year ago
@865:
as someone who doesn't really care about nyx, let me say this:

just because something happens in a fandom doesn't mean it's a vital part of the fandom which ought to be enshrined and idealized.

perhaps getting up and arms and having drama is happening in this fandom now.
but that doesn't mean it's a "pillar of bronydom".
and in fact it kind of makes me sad that everyone takes this shit so seriously nowadays.

relax everyone.

there's no need to be upset.
Anonymous
#299965
1 year ago
^This.
Chillax guys, it is just a fanfic, and most likely it will always stay as such. No need to start a war even if someone else likes or dislikes it. It is like the beginning of FIM and the appearance of Bronies all over again.
Anonymous
#300487
1 year ago
Oh hey, look: SOCKS. :D

All I see is socks and nothing else. NOTHING ELSE.
Anonymous
#300489
1 year ago
Hey guys, I found the source of all the leaky pipes.

Apparently, there was a subtle-ass troll in your plumbing that calls itself "Anon #293263".

There, I guess that fixes it.

That'll be $10.
Anonymous
#300695
1 year ago
*Looks at tags*
"boobs"
Blues
#301450
1 year ago
how can twi talk so clearly while biting on the sock.
Anonymous
#1105450
4 months ago
Fuck Nyx
Serr
#1105470
4 months ago
This thread.