1 comments/ 44263 views/ 0 favorites Private Desires Ch. 02 By: Sensuous Swan Once again, my thanks to Kirk2004 for his editing expertise. Couldn't do it without you "Kirk" In "Private Desires" I told a story of two couples who met online and eventually in person to share an incredibly erotic adventure. This story can be read on its own as it is another encounter the foursome had, but I do encourage you to go back and enjoy the beginning as well. Laura and Gil had remained in constant contact with Beth and Joe after having such an exciting evening with them. They couldn't wait to meet with them again and to continue their exploration into their fantasies. Laura and Beth spoke on the phone frequently, finding it very easy to spend excessive amounts of time just talking. It seemed as though they had known each other forever and conversation continued to come easily. Laura often tried to maneuver the conversation to topics of passion, but Beth would always manipulate the discussion to more normal topics. Prior to their first meeting Beth had made it clear that their involvement had some limitations. Beth and Joe had decided, mutually, that neither would have intercourse with anyone other than each other. This was understood by Laura and Gil, but there were still many other fantasies that could be explored. Right now Laura desperately wanted to find out what she had done wrong during their first encounter that would have prevented Beth from allowing her to taste her, experience her fully as she had fantasized doing. Many times during their love making Laura and Gil would reminisce of the evening with Beth and Joe. Gil would tell Laura how much it had excited him to watch her sucking Joe's cock. He found it so erotic to watch her lips sliding over his shaft as Beth's lips were exploring her depths. A date was finally set for the two couples to get together again. This time though, they didn't want such a limited amount of time - one evening was not nearly enough. Gil was away on business so it was decided that Laura would fly to Beth and Joe's hometown of San Francisco. The next day the three would travel on to LA to meet up with Gil. Laura arranged to fly in the night before they were to leave for LA so that she and Beth could have the next day together while Joe was working. Laura had told Gil in such detail what her hope was for that day. She imagined the two of them exploring the city a little then returning to her hotel to relax a bit and wait for Joe's arrival. It was there in the hotel room that Laura hoped that she could seduce Beth. She knew that she was new at this feminine seduction but considering the fact that Beth was strongly bi she allowed herself to imagine the two of them falling into a kiss, massaging each inch of the others body, and finally to experience her first taste of a woman. Well, Beth arrived right on time. They did explore the city a bit, had a nice lunch on the wharf, and then Beth told Laura that there was a shop she wanted to show her. The afternoon was escaping Laura and she was losing hope that her plans would come to fruition. Beth took Laura by the hand leading her into a building. They got on the elevator, went a couple of floors Beth again took Laura's hand and led her down a short hallway to a shop. This was an adult store unlike any one that Laura had ever seen before. It was very classy and the staff was very open in their explanations of the various "toys". In great detail they would explain how to use each item. Each of the staff members and the people within the store truly loved sex. There was no shame in being here or making a purchase that would either excite the buyer or her partner. There were beautiful crystal dildos, cock rings, double ended dildos, and vibrators which were designed to arouse numerous erogenous zones at the same time. Laura felt herself getting so wet as she and Beth tried many different toys - holding them to each others neck or breast to feel the intensity of the stimulation. Laura and Beth each selected a new toy and agreed that it was time to relax a bit before Joe returned from work. Finally Laura thought. She knew how aroused she had become, and she only hoped that Beth was feeling the same. The girls returned to Laura's room and collapsed into chairs to relax for a bit. Laura wanted so much to approach Beth, but she was finding it so much more difficult to seduce a woman than she had imagined. She got up to pour them each a glass of wine, hoping that this would relax them both. As she approached Beth with a glass, Beth's cell phone rang. After a brief conversation that was obviously with Joe Beth announced that he was just five minutes away - he had ended work early so we could make our way out of the city before rush hour. Laura was both disappointed and excited. She had so hoped that she and Beth could share an erotic afternoon together, but at the same time she could not wait to see Gil. She had really wanted to have an exciting story to share with him; she knew how it would excite him. Laura, Beth, and Joe had an uneventful ride to LA. By 7:00 p.m. they were knocking at the door of Gil's suite. He greeted Beth and Joe with a kiss and a hand shake respectively and then took Laura into his arms and kissed her passionately. After being away from her for several days on business, he was ravenous with desire for her and excited for the evening to come. This time they had a whole weekend to look forward to so they had time to relax, share a meal together, and allow the evening to unfold. After having a cocktail in the room and catching up a bit since their last meeting, they decided it was time to go out and have a nice dinner. They inquired with the concierge for a restaurant recommendation. After glancing at the way Beth and Laura were dressed, he suggested a romantic Italian restaurant only a few blocks away, clearly within walking distance. Beth and Laura both had chosen their outfits carefully. Beth had on a short wool skirt in light pastels with a form fitting sweater in the palest shade of blue. The sweater clung to her ample breasts and yet was delicate enough to allow her hardening nipples to be visible. Laura's outfit was one that Gil loved. She wore a very short black leather skirt and a shirt of black lace. Although it didn't show a lot of cleavage, her breasts were clearly visible through the fine lace. Gil loved watching as men tried to nonchalantly catch glimpses of her. It excited Gil to know that the woman he loved excited other men as well. They stepped out into the coolness of the night air, enjoying the walk, enjoying being together again, but most of all feeling the excitement of what was yet to come. They had a delicious meal, enjoying the ambiance of the dimly lit restaurant. The table that they had been seated at was in the far corner of the room. There was a bench seat across the wall and two chairs facing that seat. The guys, both being six foot plus, claimed the chairs while the ladies slid in next to each other on the bench. As the wine and cocktails were consumed, the conversation drifted back to the last night that they had been together. Gil once again complimented Laura and Beth on how beautiful they both looked. He was so charming and yet Laura didn't miss that playful little smile on his face. She knew he was up to something. Gil said to Beth, "I know what Laura isn't wearing under her skirt. How about you, Beth? Do you have panties on?" Laura took the cue and quickly slid her hand to Beth's leg. Beth immediately looked over to Laura as her hand slid up and under the hem of her skirt. While looking Beth right in the eyes, she was clearly talking to Gil when she said, "All I can find here is warmth and the softest skin you can imagine" Clearly the four were ready to continue their evening back at the suite. When they arrived back at the room, they could barely get the key in the door and closed before each couple was kissing passionately and removing the others clothes. They were all consumed with lust and desire to take up where they had left off. They quickly moved to the couch where Laura positioned herself between Gil's legs. She looked into his eyes while extending her tongue to catch the precum that had pooled there. Beth and Joe were sitting next to Gil on the couch and engrossed in their kissing. Joe's hands moved to Beth's soft mound and began exploring her. His lips moved to her breasts - he took each one in his mouth sucking deeply on her erect nipples. Laura could hear Beth's moans. She took Gil's cock from her mouth and began licking and sucking on his balls so that she could watch Joe bringing Beth to full arousal. Laura slid up Gil's body placing kisses every inch of the way. She took his nipples between her lips and sucked them as Joe was sucking on Beth's. She moved further up his body to the softness of his neck. She kissed and sucked on his neck and then placed her lips at his ear and whispered, "Are you ready my love?" Gil knew what Laura was about to do and it excited him beyond words to watch her explore a fantasy that they had so often shared during their lovemaking. Laura placed her soft, warm hands on Beth's shoulders and moved them down to her breasts. Joe could see what Laura was about to do and moved aside slightly to give her complete access to Beth. She leaned down and took Beth's very erect nipple between her lips and sucked tenderly - running her tongue all over the soft textures of her arousal. Laura placed her hand on Beth's legs to open them more fully to her. She then positioned herself on her knees between Beth's legs and ran her hands very slowly from her neck across her breasts, down her belly, and finally to rest at her hips. She massaged there while placing her lips and tongue to the juncture of her legs. She was not to be stopped this time. She moved her thumbs down and very gently opened Beth's lips, which from Laura's vantage point reminded her of soft petals on a rose. Laura sat for a moment just taking in the beauty of her body. She then moved her tongue to Beth's exposed clit and began to explore it as she so loved being explored herself. Gil was transfixed just watching Laura give such pleasure to Beth. He watched as she so passionately, yet naturally, explored every inch of Beth's pussy. He could be an observer no more. He joined Laura on the floor, kneeling beside her. He began running his hands all over her body, penetrating her wet pussy with his fingers while nibbling gently and kissing across her shoulder blades. She just loved how he did this. She could feel it through the haze of her passion and it inspired her to delve deeper into the warmth of Beth's pussy. She found her tongue plunging into her warmth and was rewarded with the sweetest of juices. Laura could feel Beth's body contracting around her tongue - kissing it in a way. As Laura felt Gil's fingers pinch her nipples, she stopped for a moment to look into Beth's eyes. She found her head back against the couch, obviously off in that other place that we go to when we're receiving such pleasure. Laura once again placed her tongue to Beth's clit and circled it over and over again. She carefully placed a finger inside of her pussy while never leaving her clit. She could feel the contractions of her vagina around her finger and knew she was close to orgasm. She could hear her moans of approval. She placed the second finger inside of her curling them up and rubbing the ribbed flesh of her G-spot as her tongue continued its dance. And then, Beth's legs clamped around Laura's body, her hips thrust once more to her lips and she let out the most beautiful series of moans. It was a moment which Laura will never forget. Gil took Laura into his arms and kissed her so passionately. He was so aroused by what he had just witnessed. Sure, he had seen porn films and watched women experience oral sex before, but this was very different. He was living out a fantasy with his Laura; that made this very different. Laura returned her attention to Beth. She rubbed her hands over her legs, gently massaging the sweet juices of her orgasm into her soft skin and looked at her for approval. All Beth could do was let a puff of a sigh escape from her lips. She reached for Laura's face, held it, and very softly said, "Thank you." Gil suggested that they would all be much more comfortable in on the bed. The four laid there kissing and running their hands over each other. Gil still couldn't believe what he had witnessed; his desire for Laura was overflowing and immediate. As Laura slithered her body down Gil's, she noticed that Joe was moving Beth to her knees on the bed. Obviously, this was a favorite position for them. Laura ran her tongue along Gil's thighs, over his balls, sucking each into her mouth. She watched Beth and Joe as she allowed her tongue to travel the length of Gil's cock. She couldn't wait to taste him, and she knew that with what he had just witnessed, what he was watching now, the moans filling the room, the sounds of Joe's cock penetrating Beth, this would not take long. Laura took his full length into her mouth. She encircled his cock with her tongue, sucking deeply. She craved for the gift of his orgasm. Laura could feel his cock twitching, could feel his body tensing, and knew he was about to climax. She opened her eyes to enjoy that look of total release and pleasure on his face. His fingers wrapped through her hair, his head turned to the side, a low groan escaped his lips, and his cum exploded into Laura's mouth. Laura watched Joe thrust hard into Beth as Gil's moan filled the room and her moans of pleasure joined his. Laura savored every last drop of Gil's cum, gently licking his length not wanting to miss a drop. Now it was Laura's turn. Obviously, it would take some time for Gil to be ready to make love. There was that "limitation" that Beth and Joe had so having him was out of the question. Any of the three could have brought Laura pleasure orally, but Beth had another idea. She left the room. Gil and Joe wasted no time, they immediately started kissing, massaging, nibbling, and sucking every part of Laura imaginable. Joe was paying special attention to Laura's pussy. His fingers were exploring her deeply when Beth returned with a very large rubber dildo. "We call him Hercules," she said. We all kind of laughed and Laura had a look of concern at the sheer size of this rubber phallus. "Oh, I forgot the lube - we'll need that," Beth said. Joe removed his fingers from Laura. He held them up for Gil and Beth to see her wetness; then he sensuously sucked his fingers into his mouth capturing her nectar. "Lube won't be necessary, she is so wet." Laura laid there as Beth began sucking on her nipples. Gil placed the dildo at Laura's opening and very slowly began to enter her with it. He was being gentle and loving not knowing if she could handle the size of it without hurting her. Joe was massaging Laura's legs, sucking on her toes. Gil pushed a little harder and felt the bulbous head of this rubber cock enter Laura. Laura moaned and pushed her hips up to allow more length to penetrate her. Soon Gil had this phallus moving in and out of Laura at a nice pace. Judging by Laura's moans and the look of pleasure on her face he knew her body was accommodating it quite nicely. Joe moved from Laura's toes to sit at her hips to watch as "Hercules" disappeared again and again inside of her. The wetness all over it made it obvious to all that it was pleasing Laura. Joe put his fingers on Laura clit and started rubbing her as Gil continued the penetrations. Beth was busily sucking and pinching Laura's nipples. Laura's breathing became quick and shallow. This change was not lost on any of the three - they knew her orgasm was approaching quickly. Laura's feet dug into the bed, she lifted her hips, her belly tightened and she let out a rolling moan of total release. As Laura returned after this intense orgasm Gil leaned down and kissed her so passionately saying, "Did that feel good baby?" Just a nod of her head was all she could manage at the time. Joe suggested a night cap before turning in for the night. The four sat on the couch all cuddled up just enjoying the afterglow of their shared experience. Soon each couple retreated to their beds for a good nights sleep; after all, we still had a day and a half to go. Each couple had a peaceful nights sleep all cuddled up in the warmth of the other. Laura awoke to the feeling of Gil's warm hands rubbing her breasts. She opened her eyes and saw him lying on his side facing her, head propped on his hand just watching her slumber. She reached up and tenderly kissed his lips. He gently pushed her to the pillow and kissed her passionately. Laura could feel his hard cock pressing into her leg. She just loved to start her day by making love with him. Gil rolled onto his back and held out his arms to Laura inviting her to him. She threw her leg over his hips and held his hardness in the warmth of her hands. She ran his cock up and down her pussy, paying special attention to her clit, just awakening her flesh. It always amazed Gil how tight Laura was after sleeping. Even after "Hercules" last night, her warmth just enveloped him as she descended upon him. Their lovemaking was soft and gentle and loving. Gil massaged her breasts with one hand while he rubbed her clit with the other. She lowered her body to his chest. He wrapped his arms around her and they kissed as their mutual orgasms seared through their bodies. What a way to start your day! Laura and Gil were sure that they could hear stirring from Beth and Joe's adjoining bedroom so they decided they should get up, shower, and prepare for their day. As Laura adjusted the shower's temperature, Gil stood behind her taking in the softness and beauty of her body. He couldn't help but reach out and run his hand down her back and over her buns. She turned and smiled at him saying, "You have quite an appetite there Big Boy." Just then the phone rang and Gil said, "You go ahead and get started. I'll be there in two seconds to join you." Gil took the call and was shocked to hear that something had gone terribly wrong with the deal he'd been working on all week. He had to get back to the home office and try to salvage things before the whole thing fell apart; there was too much riding on this one. He hated to disappoint Laura. Gil joined Laura in the shower and wrapped his arms around her holding her close. She looked up into his eyes and could se he was deeply troubled. "Who was on the phone love?" He explained in as much detail as he knew at the moment and told her how terribly sorry he was to cut the weekend short. "I know how much you've been looking forward to this weekend. Why don't you stay the rest of the weekend with Beth and Joe?" Laura couldn't believe what he was suggesting. "They wouldn't want me to stay without you." Gil was quite sure that the three of them would have a great time together and he found that his cock was getting harder by the second just thinking of what might happen while he was gone. He reassured Laura that if Beth and Joe didn't mind, which he was sure they wouldn't, that he would be so excited for her to tell him what happened when she returned. Over breakfast Gil explained to Beth and Joe what had happened and how imperative it was for him to return. He suggested that if they wouldn't mind Laura would rather spend the remainder of the weekend with them as planned rather than spend the time alone while he was busy at the office. They could see the look of disappointment on Laura's face that Gil had to leave. Joe looked at Beth and immediately piped in, "Of course we'd love for you to stay with us." Beth was quick to agree and with that Laura perked up a bit. Private Desires Ch. 02 After breakfast they returned to the hotel so that Gil could gather his things and get the next flight out. As he prepared to leave tears welled in Laura's eyes. She hated to see him go. He looked up and noticed her distress and said, "Hey you, none of that. I want you to have the time of your life, and I want ALL the juicy details when you get home." He gave her a quick wink, a pat on the buns, and a kissed filled with all the love that he felt for her. Gil said his goodbyes to Beth and Joe, apologizing once again for this change in plans. He thanked them for welcoming Laura to stay with them and asked that they take very good care of her, adding a wink for effect. After Gil left, it was clear to Beth and Joe how sad Laura was to see Gil leave. "Come on let's go out and find something exciting to do," Beth said. They decided to take the short drive into Hollywood and do some window shopping. They found a wax museum of the stars and thought that might be fun so they wandered inside to check it out. As they were walking through amazed at the likenesses of Judy Garland, Elvis, and such, Laura's cell phone rang. It was Gil just checking in with her before his flight. It hurt him so when he disappointed her to the point of tears, he loved her so. They both felt better after talking, and he was happy to hear that Beth and Joe had found a fun distraction to fill at least the first part of the day. After mingling with the wax stars for a bit, they wandered off to find some lunch. Joe spotted a cute little place which boasted "topless servers". They all thought it might be fun so they decided to go in and give it a try. Joe thought that even if the food was bad it might excite the ladies. As it turned out the food was delicious, and the scenery captivating. Both male and female servers were topless as advertised, and their bodies were obviously getting to the girls. After lunch the sexual tension was palpable. They decided to go back to the room and "relax" for a bit. Laura knew that Gil wanted some "juicy" news when she returned, but it still felt odd to her to be doing this without him. When they returned to the room, she was still feeling a bit apprehensive so she suggested that they go for a swim and a dip in the hot tub. After a playful romp in the pool, they decided to warm up in the tub. There was always something about being in water that turned Laura on, and this time was no exception. She laid her head back and let the warmth of the water relax her. Her mind went off to Gil and the previous night they had shared with Beth and Joe. She could feel herself getting aroused just thinking of it, remembering every detail. Beth noticed that Laura was being very quiet and was concerned that she was feeling sad again so she quietly moved over to sit next to her. She placed her hand on her thigh and quietly whispered, "Where are you?" Laura remained in the same position, eyes closed, and just told her she was reliving the previous night. "And, are you getting wet reliving that memory?" "Yes, very" "Well then, why don't we go back to our room and give you some "juicy" details to take back to Gil." When they returned to the room, Beth went into the bathroom to remove her suit. Despite the intimacy of the previous night Laura found herself turning her back to Joe as she removed her suit and put on a hotel robe. She was startled when she felt his hands on her arms turning her around to him. "Are you okay?" Joe asked. Before she could even respond to his question he leaned in and kissed her. This was a lingering kiss, and Laura found herself imagining that it was Gil that her lips were touching. She missed him terribly, and it felt good just to imagine for a moment that these were his lips. As they broke the kiss, Joe went to lift Laura onto the bed, but she stopped him saying he'd surely break something if he tried that. They lay on the bed waiting for Beth to return from the bathroom. What could possibly take her so long? As they laid there, the hardness of Joe's cock was not lost on Laura. He saw her looking at him and reached for her hand. She stroked his cock and watched as precum began to ooze from him. As she leaned down to capture it on her tongue Beth returned from the bathroom. "Are you two starting without me?" As Beth lay down next to Laura, Laura continued to swirl her tongue around Joe's cock. She wrapped her lips around him and took him deep in her mouth. Beth untied Laura's robe rubbing her palms over the hardness of her nipples. Beth moved down on the bed and spread Laura's legs. She began running her soft hands over her mound, not exploring, just rubbing. As quickly as she began she stopped and said, "Come with me into the bathroom. I want to do something for you." The girls went off to the bathroom leaving Joe there with his raging hard-on. He listened intently to what was going on in there. Beth asked Laura to run her hands over her pussy. Laura complied, looking at her quizzically. "I'm going to give you a treat. You're going to love this." By now Laura had figured out that Beth was going to shave her pussy. She kept herself well trimmed, but Beth wanted her to experience the feeling of being completely clean shaven. Beth filled the sink with warm water, got out a "disposable" razor and some shaving cream. Laura looked at that "disposable" razor and could only imagine that she would be in shreds before Beth was done. She shouted to Joe, "I think that we might need your help in here." He came into the bathroom knowing full well what Beth was about to do. When he saw the razor she intended to use, he said you can't use that on her. "Allow me," he said. Joe took out his own razor, definitely not "disposable". He removed a tin from his shaving kit and a brush with a bulbous head of fine haired bristles. He dipped the brush in the warm water, circled it in the tin to create a lather, and then looked at Laura and said "Are you ready?" "Oh yes" As he placed the brush to her pussy, the warmth and softness of the lather made Laura's eyes close immediately. It just felt so good. Beth stood by watching his every move and telling Laura how much she was going to enjoy this. He very gently took the razor and began removing every bit of hair from her lips. He lathered the brush again and ran it up and down her slit. He held her lips open with his fingers and removed every trace of hair. Laura could feel herself getting wetter by the second and close to orgasm from this special treatment. Joe explained as he was shaving her that at one time he worked in the film industry - porn films to be exact, and his job was to prepare the girls for filming. It was obvious to Laura, even without this information that Joe had done this many times before. When he was assured that he had gotten every last hair, he took a fresh wash cloth, ran it under very warm water, then held it to her pussy. "Oh Joe, that feels so good." Beth took Laura by the hand and led her to the bed explaining that she was going to inspect his work. They lay back on the bed and Beth immediately placed her lips to Laura's pussy to find it baby soft, warm, and very wet. As Beth explored this newfound softness, Laura reached out and began stroking Joe's cock. He could see by the look in her eyes that she wanted him in her mouth. He maneuvered his body to give her complete access to his hardness. Within moments Beth had Laura moaning non-stop around Joe's cock. Laura was thrusting her pussy to Beth's lips. Her tongue was magic on her clit. As her tongue flicked quickly over her clit, her fingers were exploring her deeply. Laura sucked wildly on Joe's cock as Beth brought her to an explosive orgasm. Laura allowed Joe's cock to escape her lips as she lay breathless, recovering. Joe was so close to orgasm he needed release, and now. Unlike many other times that Laura had witnessed their lovemaking, this time was different, unique. As Beth lay on the bed next to Laura, Joe straddled her facing away from her. Beth guided his cock to her opening. He used his arms to thrust his body into her. In this position his balls massaged her clit with each penetration. Laura was engrossed with this style. It was obvious from their moaning that this position was giving Joe deep penetration and Beth great pleasure. Laura ran her hands over Beth's breasts, playing with her nipples, and then over Joe's ass, feeling the contraction of his muscles as he thrust each time. Beth cried out her orgasm and with that Joe took one final thrust and filled her with his cum. They both lay motionless, appearing almost like a bizarre sculpture. They lay on the bed for a bit just relaxing, dozing off from time to time. Joe suggested that maybe they should go out and have some dinner. As they each took turns freshening up, Laura couldn't help but feel that something was bothering Beth. She could sense something in the distance of her mood. When they arrived at the restaurant, Beth went off to the ladies room and Laura used this time to question Joe about Beth's sudden change. Laura was concerned that perhaps she showed too little attention to Beth, or maybe too much to Joe. He reassured her that Beth can be quiet at times, and he didn't think there was any problem. They enjoyed their meal, just talking and relaxing, but Laura was still bothered by Beth's demeanor. When they returned to the room, the three were clearly exhausted from the long day. Laura had planned on this being an exciting weekend with Gil so she had only packed beautiful lingerie to sleep in. Beth returned from the bathroom dressed in one of Joe's white T-shirts. Laura had slid into the bed on one side and Joe on the opposite. Beth simply entered the bed through the middle, settling herself in between them. She positioned herself on her stomach, a body language that was speaking volumes to both Joe and Laura. They spoke quietly for a moment and Laura rolled to her side running her hand over Beth's back and buns - no reaction, no encouragement. Laura had no idea what had happened, but certainly Beth was upset by something. Joe gave it his best effort to speak to her, comforting her with his warm hands, to no avail. As he put his arm around Beth, he extended his arm to reach over to Laura. As she lay on her back, his hands found the warmth of her pussy. He stayed there only momentarily as it was clear that Beth was not going to get involved. In the morning things didn't seem to have improved much. Beth was still quiet and withdrawn. They packed up their things as Laura's flight was leaving from LA in just a few hours. When Joe went in to take his shower, Laura approached Beth saying, "Are you okay? Have I done something to upset you?" Beth just responded with, "Oh I'm fine, just very tired after such a busy weekend." When they arrived at the airport, Laura thanked them both for rescuing her when Gil's change of plans had almost ruined their weekend. She hugged them both and with that was on her way home. Sadly, this was to be the last time that Gil and Laura saw Beth and Joe. Beth never was totally honest about what had caused her sudden change of heart. She and Laura had spoken on the phone a few times following that weekend, but again the conversation was nothing more than generalities, despite Laura's attempts. Eventually, Beth called and said that they had decided to drop out of the lifestyle for now. Gil and Laura speculated that Joe may have asked if he could fuck Laura. Beth was clearly bi-sexual and her motivation in being in the swinging lifestyle was to find other women that wanted her, not women that took equal pleasure in both of them.