1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,620 hi guys so I wanted to ramble a bit about a concept a subreddit because I 2 00:00:10,620 --> 00:00:16,120 have a lot of different feelings on it and I'm very curious as to what you guys 3 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:22,720 think and I could have easily written this out as a text post but I feel like 4 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:29,980 I convey my thoughts better on this kind of topic by using my voice so I want to 5 00:00:29,980 --> 00:00:37,160 give it a shot so bear in mind I'm a little tired today because I was very 6 00:00:37,160 --> 00:00:43,000 productive and got a lot done so I'm kind of beat so my thoughts may not be 7 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,120 the most coherent and I might have to reiterate things I say in a more clear 8 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:55,120 concise manner so if I repeat things I'm sorry in advance but here goes nothing 9 00:00:55,120 --> 00:01:00,120 so I don't know how many of you are familiar with the subreddit or the 10 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,740 concept of nofap so for those of you that don't know because I'm sure there's 11 00:01:04,740 --> 00:01:08,360 some of you out there who aren't aware of what it is I only became aware of it 12 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:13,440 like a little while ago so I'm still kind of new to the whole thing myself 13 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:18,840 nofap the concept it's pretty much what it says on the tin you abstain from 14 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:26,640 masturbation for however long is kind of up to you but they recommend 30 or 90 15 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:32,840 days which is a little bit too much I don't think I could do that personally 16 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:40,960 but uh it's something I want to try and I'll explain in a minute but the thing 17 00:01:40,960 --> 00:01:46,560 about nofap not only do you abstain from masturbation a lot of the people on 18 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,920 there also try to abstain from porn or orgasms so some of them choose to 19 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:56,920 masturbate but they just don't do it to orgasm they stop they deny themselves or 20 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:01,520 they look at porn but they don't masturbate or they totally abstain from 21 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:07,200 anything sexually related which is totally fine too it's their choice but 22 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:13,120 I'm having very conflicted feelings about the idea of me doing a week of 23 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:19,080 nofap so I wanted to try to do a week of nofap because I'm a very compulsive 24 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:24,640 masturbator it is my way of dealing with stress frustration depression you name 25 00:02:24,640 --> 00:02:28,440 it it's my way of dealing with it scared as fuck before doing something really 26 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:33,480 important I will force a super fast quickie and then it's like I'm on to 27 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:39,520 take the world if I'm depressed and empty I orgasm just to feel things if 28 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:46,880 I'm happy I orgasm to celebrate if I'm angry I do it to let off steam you know 29 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:58,280 masturbation is very important to me but I don't like to believe in the idea of 30 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:03,080 sex addiction or masturbation addiction but I'm a very compulsive masturbator 31 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,160 and lately it's kind of to the point where time I could be spending with 32 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:12,560 friends and family has been taken up by me making myself get off over and over 33 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:17,480 and over again and it can be fun for a while but I've been doing stuff like this 34 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:24,160 my whole life and understandably and like you know in the puberty years it's 35 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:29,200 understandable because it's like you know hormones are going crazy all that fun 36 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:35,240 stuff and hell you know I hear apparently you develop well into your 37 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:40,080 20s or until you're 21 or something like that can some of you clarify what that 38 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,400 whole deal is because I kind of forgot the fact off the top of my head that I 39 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:49,240 know the thing so I'm still going through development as I speak which is 40 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,840 pretty spooky well not really spooky but it's like I'm going through puberty 41 00:03:53,840 --> 00:04:00,080 level 2 in a weird way you know so maybe hormones are just still going crazy I 42 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:08,720 don't know but regardless my compulsive tendency of masturbation it's making me 43 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:13,240 very upset lately like it it doesn't even feel that fun for me anymore it's 44 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,960 like it's almost like a contest with myself how many times can I come to 45 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:23,960 night instead of doing it because it genuinely feels good you know it's pretty 46 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:31,320 frustrating and I thought maybe a week of nofap might be a good idea but you 47 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:36,600 know yes you know yesterday night I was doing poking around on the nofap subreddit 48 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:41,800 to kind of get a feel for what to expect from nofap the different terminologies 49 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,720 in the community things like that I was looking into nofap because I was very 50 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:52,080 curious about it you know it kind of scares me I mean I commend the concept 51 00:04:52,080 --> 00:05:00,400 but the community behind it seems very scary you know masturbation and self 52 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:05,680 love is a very natural human tendency you know and like anything you can do a 53 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,240 little bit too much of it you know you can eat a little bit too much exercise a 54 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:14,160 little bit too much you know there's always a too much but of course that too 55 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:21,760 much will vary widely depending on the individual at the heart of it when you 56 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:26,640 live in a society which you know American society it's getting better 57 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:32,840 about being accepting of alternative lifestyles and sexualities and things 58 00:05:32,840 --> 00:05:38,240 like that it still has a long way to go there's still a lot to deal with in the 59 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:47,680 garbage heap and you know the thought of there being a concept like sex addiction 60 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:53,240 masturbation addiction you know to make people feel guilt and shame for something 61 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:58,120 that is totally natural and is part of the human experience for some for most I 62 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,240 shouldn't say some but I know that there's people that don't want sex or 63 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:07,640 don't desire it and that's totally okay too you know for a lot of humans sex is 64 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:15,560 very important or not very important but it is a part of their life experience so 65 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:20,680 you know the thought that there's a community that you know not even a 66 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:25,080 community but the fact that sex addiction masturbation addiction you know 67 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:32,280 addiction is a very negative connotation you know and I feel like if you put that 68 00:06:32,280 --> 00:06:37,120 kind of negativity on an activity or a concept that already has kind of a 69 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:42,720 negative stigma it only serves to worsen that stigma not only that but the 70 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:47,440 community of no fappers in general seems like a very unhealthy community 71 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:53,560 regardless of how commendable their concept is you know the fact that when I 72 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,600 read all these different posts from all these no fappers the fact that they feel 73 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,880 such guilt and shame for what they're doing despite it being totally natural 74 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:08,600 you know I hate to be blunt but that's pretty fucked up at least in my opinion 75 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:14,840 you know I feel like people shouldn't necessarily feel guilty for their 76 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,800 pleasure might they want to cut back on how much they masturbate or consume porn 77 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:24,240 sure but a lot of the attitudes the people have in no fap scare me a bit 78 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:31,800 excuse me for a sec here okay excuse me again but like I was saying the attitude 79 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:42,080 of no fap is very concerning because if you know the person is to relapse or 80 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:46,640 whatever of course they understandably get very upset but it's like they show 81 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:53,240 a level of guilt and shame that it's very uncomfortable to see and even then 82 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,640 when I see the goals of people that are beginning no fap like it's very 83 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:02,360 concerning to see that they're coming in very much compulsive masturbators very 84 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:07,640 habitual porn watchers and then next thing you know they want to eradicate it 85 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,800 totally from their lives to where they don't even do it anymore and it's just 86 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:16,800 like you know if that's the choice they want to make that's okay and I'm not 87 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:21,200 going to say that it's fucked up if that's what makes them happy but I mean 88 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,600 to eradicate masturbation completely from one's life sounds pretty 89 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:29,240 unrealistic and quite impossible to me and maybe that's just to me and the 90 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:34,640 reason I always end my sentences with to me or I feel or I think or whatever is 91 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,960 because I understand that a lot of you are probably gonna think a little 92 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:45,760 differently but I wanted to share my view on this I want to do a week of no 93 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:50,280 fap because not because I want to get involved with the community or anything 94 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,160 like that the people in the community scare the fuck out of me I'm gonna be 95 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:58,200 totally honest the overall overwhelming attitude of sex negativity is very 96 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:04,020 toxic and unhealthy and it's very hard as somebody who is relatively sex 97 00:09:04,020 --> 00:09:10,280 positive it's a very scary place to be for me you know I'm all about that 98 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:15,120 positivity ain't nothing wrong with sex and masturbation and all that and you 99 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:19,200 know I'm still learning my way around things but you know I generally consider 100 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:25,600 myself very sex positive so being in an environment where it's such a guilty 101 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:33,520 shamey place about you know you know about the detriments of having too much 102 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,640 sex or masturbating too much I understand what they're trying to 103 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,200 achieve but I can't help but feel like there could be a better way to execute 104 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:46,040 it you know and of course you know on the subreddit they don't claim that they 105 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,080 believe that porn or masturbation is the devil or anything which is very 106 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:56,000 comforting that you know to keep in mind but it still doesn't help to swayed me 107 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:01,480 from feeling positively towards the community itself because even if nofap 108 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:06,720 itself might not believe that porn or masturbation are bad things the overall 109 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:13,640 sex negativity within the community is very concerning to me that said I feel 110 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:19,240 like my compulsive masturbation is also very negative and very not good either 111 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:25,400 with how often I do it you know these past couple nights I've been very lonely 112 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:29,600 and instead of like hopping into the team speak to talk to people instead of 113 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:36,080 going on and talking with close friends in real life instead I've been locked 114 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:42,440 up in my room masturbating over and over and over compulsively and it's not even 115 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:47,320 because I want to or it feels good it's just a very natural thing like sometimes 116 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,480 I'm just sitting listening to music and next thing I know my hand is in my pants 117 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:55,080 it's not a big deal like oh baby I'm gonna masturbate no normally I don't 118 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:59,000 even think about it it's just kind of happening it's like a reflex you know 119 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:03,960 it's like a reflex to stress to any negative feeling I'm like masturbating 120 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:08,800 you know and you know that's it's not it's not the most unhealthy way to cope 121 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,400 I will say that like I'm very proud that I haven't had to like turn to drugs or 122 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,920 anything to cope with my bad feelings it's always been masturbation for me 123 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:24,080 but the fact that it is so compulsive and so ingrained in me I can't help but 124 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:28,080 feel a bit of guilt and shame myself you know because it's like I understand 125 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:33,000 masturbation is totally healthy and natural and all that stuff but like I 126 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:38,040 can't help but feel guilty and bad because it's like all this time that I 127 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:43,320 spend orgasming and working myself up into a sweat could be used to call a 128 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:48,440 friend on the phone to head out for a bit and just kind of get some fresh air 129 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:54,120 you know but no one said I'm just busy you know fapping my ass off literally 130 00:11:54,120 --> 00:12:02,840 and figuratively but like you know I'm curious what will happen if I decide not 131 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,840 to masturbate for this whole week you know will it be torture will it be good 132 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,640 I don't know and that's why I kind of want to find out I want to try it and 133 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:15,640 see what happens try to cut back on my compulsive tendency to masturbate but I 134 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:25,360 don't know what do you guys think about the general concept of nofap what do you 135 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,800 think for those of you that have actually looked around on the subreddit 136 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:33,340 and the different sites for it and whatnot what what what do you have to 137 00:12:33,340 --> 00:12:38,840 say about the community to you like what what what do you think of it you know 138 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:45,440 I'm very curious because though I feel all these negative things towards nofap 139 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,840 I still feel like it's a pretty helpful concept for people that might need it 140 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:54,000 but I can't help but feel like it needs to be executed a bit differently but I'm 141 00:12:54,000 --> 00:13:00,800 not sure you know and you know another question I'll throw out there for you to 142 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,560 answer or not answer this can be rhetorical if you want I don't care you 143 00:13:05,560 --> 00:13:16,640 know if you are not a compulsive masturbator you know feel free to not 144 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:22,160 answer this but you know try to try to imagine yourself as a compulsive 145 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:28,400 masturbator if need be if you want to try and answer this one but to other 146 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,160 compulsive masturbators out there because I'm sure it's not just me I'm 147 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:36,880 sure there's others too let me ask you this how do you deal with all that 148 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:42,720 excess energy within your system how besides masturbating what are other 149 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:48,120 things that you do to kind of try to not masturbate as much do you how do you 150 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:54,520 manage it if it gets to feel like it's too much actually that's not even a 151 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,280 question for compulsive masturbators is it I guess that's a question for 152 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:03,480 everyone I fucked up I'm sorry no but yeah everybody yeah how do you manage 153 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:09,280 your masturbation habits and and what what's a good way to kind of lessen the 154 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:14,560 frequency without going totally dead you know because I don't want to omit 155 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:17,680 masturbation and porn from my life I can't do that because that's a lot of 156 00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:22,440 like how I'm coming to feel more confident within myself no pun intended 157 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:28,680 you know you know masturbation and self-love it's a very therapeutic thing 158 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:34,720 for me it's very important to me but at the same time I don't like doing it as 159 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,520 frequently as I do and I don't know what to do I don't want to stop dead turkey 160 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:44,360 but you know for me usually one orgasm isn't enough and I find that I just keep 161 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:49,040 going after one and I don't know it's very frustrating you know I just you 162 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:54,140 know and I know none of you are like you know none of you are like allowed to 163 00:14:54,140 --> 00:14:57,800 give like medical advice and I'm not asking for medical advice or anything 164 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:03,880 like that if I were to be looking for that I would be talking to a doctor but 165 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:11,600 I'm just looking for advice like just practical advice you know so yeah I 166 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:17,240 don't know I just needed to get this out there because it's it's really tough you 167 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:22,040 know and I'm kind of tired of feeling alone you know I just I want to reach 168 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:28,800 out to you guys you know so thank you for listening and I can't wait to see 169 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:34,600 what you have to say you know I look forward to your responses and you know 170 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,560 let's get a little discussion going I wanna I want to see what can spiral out 171 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:44,680 from this I'm very curious because this topic is very fascinating to me and 172 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:49,360 human sexuality is really fascinating to me and it's it's just it's something 173 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:57,400 that I love to look into so let's chat let's see what happens you know so yeah 174 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:15,000 thank you for listening and discuss away