    Alt.sex.bestiality G.I.Q. (Generally Ignored Questions)
    'Netiquette on ASBest' (or; 'How to make folks angry and embarrass
    yourself')
    ************************************************************
    [ This section written by LuGarou (an191113@anon.penet.fi) and
    contributed to by Hossie, Remus Shepherd, VGR, Mega-dog and
    others. ]  First Posted: 5/1/95.   Last revised: 4/20/96

    Contents: A quick study for the lazy.
       Intro:
          This really is about zoophilia and bestiality. It happens. Get over
    it. Take unrelated material elsewhere.
       Netiquette:
          #1) Fools rush forward where angels fear to tread.
          #2) "Stay on target. Stay on target."
          #3) What is your point?
          #4) Yawn.
          #5) "Kill it before it spreads!"
       The eternal questions:
            Summary:
            1.  alt.sex.bestiality is discussion only.  NO PICTURES please.
            2.  Don't post a "me too" message here.  E-mail the original
    poster instead.  You think the whole world wants to see you ask a single
    person for something?
            3.  Don't ask to meet women here.  You'll only look stupid and you
    will not get any responses.
            4.  Don't ask for pictures.  Read
    alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.bestiality and get the pictures yourself.

            5.  If you ask for someone to "loan" you the use of their animal,
    don't be surprised if you're ignored.  No one with a brain will trust a
    stranger with their loved one.
         Reread this until you understand.

    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<   INTRO   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    This is a forum of reasonable discussion, debate, story telling, fantasy,
    education, support and advice on topics relating to bestiality and
    zoophilia.  Please post responsibly! This means please do not flame!
    Intelligent, mature questions, observations and statements will be
    regarded and responded to in a like manner.  Believe it or not, sexual
    encounters with animals are a serious fantasy for many, and a lifestyle
    for others (both males and females).  Quite a few do practice it either as
    a spice in their lives and relationships, as an exploration, or as an
    exclusive preference. Toss out your preconcieved notions of who and what
    we are and read the group for a little. Respect the integrity of others
    and yours will also be respected in turn.

    Alt.sex.bestiality isn't a moderated newsgroup, (posts don't have to
    beapproved) so off topic posts are frequent.  But generally we're close to
    the mark.  Please, try to control any desires to post off topic or to
    respond to off-topic posts of others. You are expected to act maturely, to
    post responsibly and to follow the guidelines of 'netiquette.'  If you do
    so, you shall be welcomed warmly!

    1) Lurk before you leap;
      -Lurk in the wings.  Watch the flow of posts.  This will teach you a lot
       about what is and what is not acceptable here.  It will also give you a
       feel for the group and an idea of what topics and questions have
       already been hashed to death before.
      -Read the F.A.Q., (Frequently Asked Questions).  It's posted on the
       first and PIPs (Periodic Information Points) on special subjects
       get posted several times each month.

    2) If you have nothing to say, then please shut up;
      -People get mad when they have to spend time sorting through "me too!"
       posts, cross-posted trash, tests, unfocused garbage, unclear posts,
    flames,
       advertisements and other assorted noise.
      -Try to limit your responses to the topic of the thread to which you are
       responding.  If you have comments to make on a separate issue, make
       them in a separate posting, (as long as the other issue is on topic :).
      -Focus your thoughts before you reply.  Get an idea of what you want to
       say and how you want to say it, -then- type up your next masterpiece.
      -Remember, there are also times when it is better to write to the author
       of a post via E-mail than to post a public response.  Examples of such
       times are when someone posts a message that is off topic but which you
       just have to respond to and when you feel that itch to flame someone.

    3) Cut out the fat...rules to remember when following-up a message;
      -Quote the relevant sections of the post your are responding to.  Some
       of your fellow 'groupies' may have maxed out their Mental RAM and so
       may not recall the post you are replying to, even if they wrote it.
      -On the opposite side of the same coin, don't quote more than is
       necessary. Keep it short, sweet and to the point.

    4) Please, mind your manners;
      -Insults and flames generally don't get you fans or admirers.  Actually,
       they make you an annoyance.  DON'T DO IT!  That brings us to our next
       point.
      -DON'T SHOUT!  There are better ways of *emphasizing* what you have to
            say than leaning on the Caps Lock.

    5) Hold the Spam (tm);
       Periodically, junk-mail posts are scattered over the net by over-eager
       scam-masters.  Some are illegal, shady deals.  All are a waste of band-
       width.  To complain about such unruly behavior, you are encouraged to
       send a polite note to the sender of the post via email, informing
       him/her  that posting such trash is not acceptable behavior.  Be sure to include
      the text of their unacceptable post.  If they continue to post their spam
      for the    whole net to see, copy the entire post and send it to their site
      administrator, (The administrator's address of say bigjerk@netcom.com
      would    be postmaster@netcom.com or administrator@netcom.com.)  Be sure to
      include a    note when writing their sysadmin describing why you're sending this to
      them    or else -you- might wind up having your service interrupted!

    Following are some examples of posts that will get you drawn and quartered
    around here.  Try to avoid posts such as these and you may just succeed in
    not alienating the entire group or inviting so many flames as to cause
    your mail server to crash.

    1) "Yo!  I got pics of men/women blowing/fucking horses/dogs/Newts! Who
             wants 'em?!" and it's closely related, rather inbred,
            cousin..."Yo!     I want pics of men/women blowing/fucking sheep/goats/Barney!
        Who got     'em?!"

       -That's very nice, but they don't go here.  Graphic images (GIFs,
             JPEGs, etc.) are not acceptable.  ASBest is a text newsgroup.
    All   graphics images belong in
    alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.bestiality. If
             you do not receive a.b.p.e.b., put them in
             alt.binaries.pictures.tasteless. You might try reading these
    groups
             by: getting a telnet account with a server that DOES carry these
             groups; browsing one of the Web Page Newsgroup servers like
             Http://www.uib.no/news.alle or other such tricks.
       I repeat, do not post them here.  Why?
         -Because we asked you nicely.
         -Because many sites will not carry binaries (images) groups since it
             takes large amounts of space to store them, (One image can take
          up          more space than a whole days worth of posts).  Posting pictures
          here   will hurt the distribution of the group and limit the access you
          and others have to this forum. (Post pics and you may find your
          provider drops this group too. Then where will you be?)
         -Because many people get their feeds to this group via E-mail, long
             distance calls and/or commercial, timed-access accounts.  Large
             binaries files drive up their costs and make things difficult for
             everybody.  Please, be considerate.

    2) "Hey!  I got ___thousand poorly written whack off stories!  Can I post
        'em all here?!" and it's echo, "Where's all the stories?!"

       -Erotic texts (stories) are acceptable but please try and not post too
        much material all at once.  Factual accuracy is important and errors
        will be scrutinized.  You can expect to be called to the carpet for
        spelling and/or factual errors.  If you can't take constructive
        criticism, don't post your story.
       -Many here find bondage, dominance, sadism and masochism-paired-with-
        bestiality-stories offensive.  Keep that in mind when determining
        whether or not you should post your story.
       -Please label the subject line or the first few lines of the story to
        warn readers about the story's content. (story- m/f:d/s +dog)

    3) "Hey, I'm desperate and want to have a shallow relationship with the
            love of your life so I can get my rocks off!" or "I'm a 350# 5'4"
            slob  who wants to jerk off while watching you fuck an animal!"

       -Most here consider their animal relationships as serious, private
        things. Requests by gawkers will likely be ignored or flamed.  If
        you'd  like to meet other animal lovers in your area who may be reading
        A.S.Best, you can post a message indicating your where abouts. It is
        strongly advised you not be too specific though, (you'll probably want
        to leave out things like your street address and phone number).
        Remember, this group is carried world-wide and is read by many lurkers
       "just for laughs".  Some collect info with malicious intent. If you
        don't mind being publicly exposed, post whatever you wish. Otherwise,
        take care.  Don't respond to adds via a note to the newsgroup.
        Instead, E-mail the person who you wish to contact.
       -There are also IRC channels and talkers (like MUSHes) where people
        from ASBest gather and chat.  For further information on these
        services, refer to the group FAQ.

    4) "I have magazines/videos/photographs to sell!  Just send me your name,
        address and your credit card number and expiration date!" and it's
        somewhat mutated form, "I'm looking for magazines/videos/pictures!
             I'll let you watch me paint my garage for a trade!"

      -We discourage you from placing or responding to video ads.  However,
       this is not a moderated group so there is no protection from stupid
       "for sale" posts, and they, rest assured, do happen.
      -If you are looking for videos, follow Hoss Topper's advice, "Read the
        newsgroup and watch for someone to pop in and advertise videos. Follow
        their instructions if you're that desperate, but don't complain if you
        lose your money to a fake or wind up arrested by the police.  After
        all,  I suppose that a *few* of the ads might be for real.  The
       problem  is selecting them from the setups."
      -If you are responding to an ad, do so by E-mail only!  We do not want
        to read through your "Me Too!" cry or "Send me more info."
      -Your local smut peddler can tell you if videos or magazines are
        available or legal in your location. Give them a call.

    5) "I wanna complain, who's in charge of this place?!" or it's cousin "No
            one is the boss, so I'll do as I damned well please."

       -Yes, no one is "in charge", but many people volunteer to spend
        alot of time collecting, collating, editing, posting and reposting to
        make Usenet work.  This is a social contract system, not anarchy.
        Everybody obeys some principles (not rules) so that it works for all.

    6) ""Do you people REALLY do it with animals? Why don't you all just find
             women to f*ck instead?  Does your mom/dad/wife/etc. know what
             you're  doing?"

        -Read the group for a little while. It might help clear up some
         misconceptions. It is frequently assumed we are either sexually
         desperate young males, mutant hicks unable to get a date, or some
         combination of the above. THIS IS FALSE.  In reality or fantasy,
         many of us share this interest in animals. Quite a few DO practice it
         either as a spice in their lives and relationships, as an exploration
         or as an exclusive preference. We are all nations, all classes, all
         manner of people. Both male and female.  Some are open and public
         about   it. Others are mostly private. As for who knows, well - that
          depends on the individual relationships. We relate to our animal
          companions, share their lives and our love with care, consideration
          and respect. They don't hide their sexuality or sensuality, and some
          of us respond to it. Many get a secret thrill out of viewing the
          sexual behavior of other species- we merely confront that
         interest and try it ourselves. Horses, in their sensuality and the
         obvious size and appearance of the stallion invite fantasy. Some seek
         wild animal passion. Others the unconditional love or even a moment's
         mutual happiness and pleasure. How very sad that it is ridiculed and
         in some places criminal, unless one is involved in breeding or
         production - where semen collection and artificial breeding is ok.
         But only so long as no one enjoys it.
       -Those who laugh, ridicule or condemn forget that their fetishes of
             bondage, spanking, domination or submission are viewed in only
             slightly better light. What really matters is the heart.

    [This document is still undergoing revision! If you have helpful
    suggestions, ideas or comments send them to LuGarou
    (na191113@anon.penet.fi).]

Return to Stasya's Home Page