Newsgroups: alt.sex.bestiality
From: sea@umcc.umich.edu (ASB FAQ-keeper)
Subject: PIP: HOWTO -- ScalySex [1/1]
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Summary: Periodic Informational Postings; Information on sex with reptiles.
Keywords: PIP, bestiality, zoophilia, reptiles, snake, lizard, gila, zoonosis

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Alt.sex.bestiality F.A.Q., Version 5.72                    Posted !NOW_MONTH!
[How To: ScalySex]                                 Revised 15 September, 1997
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The newsgroup rec.pets.herp has excellent information on the proper care 
of reptiles.  The FAQs are particularly good, and might be of help if you 
are seeking to use snakes to enhance your love life.

I [the writer] am actually not a bestiality practitioner myself; I peeked 
into this newsgroup to post a warning about an ad hoaxer who had gotten to 
ALL of the alt.sex groups, and posted his sleazy 900 phone sex ad with MY 
mailbox as the return path....sigh....but I am a herpetologist, 
semi-professional, and I write for several publications about reptiles.  I 
hope this information will be of help to people who are considering using 
reptiles for the purposes of sexual stimulation.

Please be aware that penetration of a snake, penile or digital, will cause 
internal injury and harm to the delicate internal structures of the 
cloaca.  Also, the immediate reptilian reaction to cloacal dilation and 
stimulation (sometimes done by veterinarians in the case of constipation) 
is to evacuate its bowels, which are full of gram-negative bacteria.

Insertion of a reptile head into the vagina or anus will cause serious 
injury to the animal, as their skulls are comparatively fragile, and your 
muscular spasms will probably crush them.  Though snakes can endure oxygen 
deprivation for much longer than mammals can, it is not recommended. 

Insertion of a reptile tail is not a problem for the reptile, but may be a 
problem for you.  In many species, the scale structure is such that 
rubbing against the grain will erect the rough or cutting edges of the 
individual scales.  

One species comes notably to mind as being suited for use as a sexual 
"partner".  Helodermus suspectum (the Gila Monster) has a thick tail that 
is ridged and bumpy, and unlike most lizards, its tail is sufficiently 
strong and muscular to support the weight of the animal.  Individuals of 
this genus are notably docile and can be handled with ease once tamed.  
However, if a miscalculation is made and you stimulate the reptile to 
bite, this could obviously be a problem - so this species cannot be 
wholeheartedly recommended either.


Boas are a generally docile (and more commonly kept) species, and their 
scales are not cross-grained.  Tail insertion (the snake's tail into your 
orifice) is possible if the animal is a female and does not have the sharp 
ventral spurs that characterize a mature male.  However, this does put you 
at risk of contacting the snake's fecal matter, which may contain 
salmonella or other gram-negative bacteria that is very, very unhealthful 
for humans.


Almost all snake species are suitable for petting and friction; i.e., 
allowing to crawl around the body.  Lizard's tails, with the exception of 
helodermus suspectum, are not suitable for sexual stimulation; but they 
also may be allowed to crawl on the body.

Handling your reptile in a (responsibly) sexual manner is not particularly 
abusive, as the reptile does not know or care whether it is crawling 
across your arm or your genitals.  However, please be aware that many 
sexual acts depicted or written about involving reptiles IS abuse of the 
animal, and may injure it severely.  I'm not being judgemental here; this 
is a veterinary fact.  Specifically, the prohibited acts are:

- Penetrating the reptile's cloaca,
- Inserting a reptile's head into your anus or vagina,
- Restraining the animal and stressing it (making it squirm frantically)
  for extended periods of time or frequently (weekly or more often),
- Insertion of a lizard's tail (except h. suspectum) in your anus/vagina.

Though experienced herpetoculturists and veterinarians can probe-sex a 
specimen by inserting a tiny metal probe into its cloaca, this is a 
stressful experience for the reptile, and VERY DANGEROUS for the amateur 
to perform.  The veterinarian I work with has seen numerous cases of 
injury, bowel ulceration and death on snakes that have been improperly 
probed by amateurs.  In addition, a snake's cloaca is not safe for you to 
insert yourself into, as it is typically full of gram-negative and 
sometimes gram-positive bacteria in quantities that do not necessarily 
harm the reptile, but that can make a human very ill.  The addition of 
cloacal spurs and sharp-edged scales in some species makes this very 
inadvisable indeed, if not downright self-punishing.

Sexual acts that will NOT injure a reptile:

- Friction of the reptile against your body, and
- insertion of a docile, non-stressed snake's tail in your vagina or anus.

Tail insertion warnings: many species have sharp scales, making them 
unsuitable for such uses.  Do not, under any circumstances, insert a 
snake's tail in your anus or vagina beyond the cloacal opening, for two 
reasons:

- Your muscular spasms may injure the reptile's internal organs, beyond 
  that point.
- A snake's defecate contains trace quantities of potentially harmful
  bacteria, most notably salmonella.  

Zoonosis (the transmission of disease from animal to human) is rare with 
reptiles, but when it does happen, fecal contamination is usually the 
cause.  Even healthy specimens may have trace quantities of such 
bacteria present in their intestines.  Almost any snake's response to 
being stimulated in the cloacal area is to defecate; so be aware of this.  
Condom use is a possibility to avoid fecal contamination.

Serious questions will be answered if asked; though I do believe I have 
covered the full range of non-harmful sexual activities possible with 
reptiles.  Personal questions will be ignored; to reiterate, I am a 
serious herpetologist, not a bestialist.  I don't judge what you do; I 
just offer guidelines for the sake of the reptiles' safety.

[ Maintainer's note:  The author of this document prefers to remain
  anonymous, but can be contacted through the FAQ maintainer, currently 
  <sea@umcc.umich.edu>.  -- SEA, 15 September 1997 ]

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