I turned out to be a flop and utter crap so nobody cares about it anymore. Move on.

Please don't even bring that game up anymore. Aval0n has always been (and always will be) "almost finished" with the game. the latest update doesn't even have pics and frankly, he's still dicking around.

Well, while you two are being assholes and ignoring other peoples views, I'll be here waitin' for an update. Because I, like many others, actually like this game. :I

Now start adding links, or GTFO. There's no point in filling this thread with bitching right off the bat.

I'mma start with links to the latest art for it.

https://inkbunny.net/submissionview.php?id=274651
https://inkbunny.net/submissionview.php?id=277147
https://inkbunny.net/submissionview.php?id=279926

>>3113
You know you're going to be waiting a long time right? I mean, this isn't to be snarky or rude, but previous experience is a good teacher and Avalon is notorious for taking forever for minimal updates.

Also, I love you "Blah blah or GTFO" people. It's like you think you have some kind of internet authority and it's adorable. This is meant to be snarky and rude.

Guys. OP is only asking for the links to the most recent version of this flash, and probably the hacked ones as well. To which, that is a fair request. Now, if he was asking when it would be updated, then the correct response is, "Good fucking luck with that."

>>3113
So young on the internet. Trust me when I say this, I was just like you, hating on everyone insulting Aval0n because I liked the game and the idea behind it. however, as everyone kept pointing out, the artist took forever with updates that had little to no impact on the game. I made myself look like a complete asshat because I thought everyone were haters, but in fact, they were either just as peeved as I was because it was taking so long or they flung mud at Aval0n to poke fun at him for taking too damn long. I still hope this game will be finished, but I'm not gonna be defending this jackoff because he can't make his peeps happy.

That picture just looks fucking creepy.

Did anyone ever make there own version based on this game? I mean It was in the highlight quite some time, so someone must have made one.

>>3133

sadly, there weren't any alterations. just hacks.

>>3082
fuck pedoing out on cream I just wanna bang tails.

Guise. Guise listen. Guise listen here okay. Guise. Stopped getting trolled by these threads guise. Guise.

>>3133
I had considered working on a game like this, but I have neither the programming nor the art experience to really get anything rolling. I wrote down some ideas for a game, and I looked into using a simple system like Ren'Py to make it, but eventually I moved on to other things.

>play this in like 2009 or something
>three years later, fucking nothing has changed

so in the arcade and playing the fighting game there, what is the combo to actually win against cream?

Guys, what is the combo to win against cream in the fighting game at the arcade?

since were talking about this game that should be dead and buried with the bunny in the ground.
ANYBODY WANNA FINISH THIS SHIT SO EVERYONE CAN STOP BITCHIN AND COMPLAININ.

>>3176
How hard would it be to crack open this flash and add in pictures. I have no experience with flash editing or the like, so I wouldn't know...

>>3176
i think the reason no one wants to take up this project is because all it really needs are pics and people are too lazy to draw or can't draw for shit.

>>3185
It's also a cursed project. Cracking in there and adding images will either bring out an angry gnashing of teeth that it just wasn't good enough and now the whole thing is ruined, or Avalon himself would throw some kind of "You stole my super original idea and now I will threaten with Internet Court!" tantrum.

Everything with this game, from the creator, to the fanbase who zealously defend it and demand more, to the people who shit on it and troll the fansbase, is complete bullshit. No one wants to involve themselves because no one is that masochistic.

i'd be happy with a simple hacked copy of the most recent released version lmao

>>3204
you could probably find the most recent version (probably hacked) on swfchan or something, although it doesnt really matter. the latest 3 or 4 versions are pretty much the same exact version with minor changes

>>3200
true, but i think the second thing would be funny if it happened. If you have seen his IB lately, he posted a mini comic about making some people "mad" as he calls it. If I had any artistic ability, I would just add pics just to make him mad himself.

http://www.anime3000.com/a3k-network/165-the-other-side/994-streets-of-rape-the-other-side.html

Still the best thing to come out of this game's existence.

>>3227
Yeah, two hypocritical guys saying all cub-likers are pedophiles, calling furries perverts or "a virus that destroys anything it touches", saying "Society doesn't need you"... we haven't see THAT before.

Thank you for that glorious peice of unique opinionship, now please fuck off.

You know what? I just noticed there aren't any links to any of the games.

Latest version: https://inkbunny.net/submissionview.php?id=218031

Latest hack I could find: http://eye.swfchan.com/flash.asp?id=94533&n=toon_1298352285147_babysitcreamv0913_hax_2.swf&w=800&h=600

You're welcome, anybody who wanted these.

>>3241
so that's what that was about? It was so horrible I didn't bother to listen past the first minute, much less 7.

>>3241
It's mainly a comedy show and not really meant to be taken seriously. once again I've underestimated how seriously folks in the fandom take themselves. 9_9

>>3263
"Find out where this guy lives, and hurt him!"

Yeah let's not take this too seriously...

It was just two normal-ish guys expressing their utter distaste for pretty normal porn games. Then they really went off on one with THIS game. Nothing to worry about, certainly nothing to defend.

>>3241
You know... liking 'cub' porn is the furry equivalent of pedophilia. You're quite literally finding a sexual attraction a character that is designed specifically to appear younger than an age of consent. Making it an anthro bunny is literally no different than a picture of an eight year old human.

So how does one play that game?

that is a slipery slope argument, which is a logical falisy

a simple explination for a simple mind, pedophile means 'one who loves children' thus i do not use it to describe a child rapist or molester as others do, a rapist loves none but themself, thus the word just 'doesnt' fit.
secondly fur art is just that....ART its ink and fucking paper, does likeing snuff art mean you wana go kill somebody, no.
if you honeslty think that a ink on paper has any 'real world' conections, YOU are the one that should seek help because youve clearly lost the ability to seperate fantasy and reality

the above comment was ment to address this comment >>3289

>>3292

>>3292

This man speaks the truth.

>>3292
thats a good point your making but what is a person called when their fantasy is having sex with children, I used to think thats what a pedophile was. It must have a word, a person goes to e621.com and looks up cub our something and jerks off to it must have some kind of want to have sex with children but don't or can't. People offen leave comments on nude pics of Cream, Tails and Amy that say what they would like to do to them sexually. Are they just called creeps? for the creepy things they want to do but can't with these kids?

>>3301
Here's a funny story:

90% of the drawn porn I look at has cub/loli in it. And yet, I cannot pop a boner when actual cp is involved. Something about the stylistic representation of the drawn form makes youngness appealing, in a way that reality does not.

MORAL: A person can find things attractive without finding similar things attractive.

That said, people making detailed comments about what they want to do to whatever the focus is in a porn is the epitome of creepy.

>>3310
I think I see, so its not so much as what the drawing is of, but the design and/or coloring of the pic it seft that most people like right? In other words if one likes drawn porn pics of ether men, women, children or even animals does not really show their sexuality or a want to have sex with for real. Is that correct?

P.S. Sorry we're having this corversation on a thread about a unfinshed flash game. Im new to the cartoon porn thing and don't know all the rules.

>>3311
Perhaps, and perhaps not.

I think that it's reasonable to compare an attraction to cub/shota/loli/rape to an attraction to violent video games, like GTA.

A perfectly normal person can spend hours of their free time engaging in simulated murder/robbery/etc and enjoy every minute of it. This does not mean that they fantasize about beating strangers along the sidewalk with a baseball bat. This does not mean that they would not be horrified if they ever witnessed such an act taking place in front of their very eyes.

The same could be said for people that are attracted to these "rape games". Taking satisfaction out of a fictional portrayal of a taboo does not necessarily mean that you would enjoy a real world enactment of that taboo.

However, it is also possible that a person DOES enjoy violent media because they enjoy acting violent in real life. Likewise, a child rapist might take enjoyment out of a fictional rape scenario because they can relate it to the crimes they've committed.

So basically; is every person who enjoys this game a child rapist? No.

Would a child rapist enjoy this game? Probably.

>>3312
I love how you explain the psychology of these situations. I agree with you that there are a bunch of games out there that do involve certain scenarios that real life society would frown upon. People involved in those scenarios may enjoy the games that portray them, but saying everyone who enjoys those games enjoy the scenarios in real life is like saying a rectangle is a square.

While a rectangle is not a square a square is a rectangle and is also a rhombus

Took one year to get his latest update out, holy shit was not worth the wait.

New update from the man.

>are you purposely not working on the game to milk donations like the hater/fags accuse you? -> no, I stopped receiving them a long time ago due to the fact that there hasn't been an update since early this year, and I understand, I've been getting an occasional one from time to time and I'm truly grateful to everyone who helps and supports the cause.

...Pretty much sums up his entier post.

>>3383
I too would be grateful to anyone that supported my cause of not working on anything.

Is it not possible to get tails to come over in the hacked version?

>>3426

Which version are you using? I'm using the latest hacked version, and getting Tails to come over works every time I call him.

I'll just say this, Theres no point in raging when people want to see updates to this game or ask for them. I do agree that it's stupid since theres no real updates, just shitty little add ons, though some people like the art and stuff so let them be. If you hate Avalon for taking for freaken ever (which i do to) then just ignore it. I mean is it really that hard? Do you have to stress yourself to such extents to put you're point into others? Especially when it's over the internet? I don't think so. So really do you're selves a favor and just ignore it. Don't piss you're self off just for something so pointless as a game on the internet.

Wait, people are still discussing this game?

This thread should be as dead as a dead guy who is dead withing death's... death

>>3438
Agree, we got the update what is there left to bitch about? The game is out, leave it at that.

>>3430
could you post it in the thread, please?

Jebus Crow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlRUY582Mzc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1CVHEHZ_mM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR_-ppvlTCo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJcJnLFu1uA

AHHAAAAHAHAAHAAHAAHAAAHAAAAA!

The furry boorus dumped the old versions when the last one came out, but that last update removed nearly all the art...

God damn it I got arrested

>>3082

one...avalon has actually started to 'like' poking you trolls back, the slow pace recently has been purely to get a rise out of the idiots that scream when he does so little cause hes finally given up on pleasing a bunch of whiners, i dont blame him, the game will be done when its done, ive long since stopped waiting around for it...ive got him watched, when the finished one comes out, ill know, till then i occasionally read a journal of his and look at some of his art [its actually improved a good bit]

and secondly, if every one who 'bitched' about this game pitched in even a little bit [a line of script, a coded scene, a picture] you guys could have made 5 different dating sims of this type by now, seriously its basic flash people, the hardest part is making sure the flags are all aimed right and the words show up where you told them to.

>>3598

>one...avalon has actually started to 'like' poking you trolls back, the slow pace recently has been purely to get a rise out of the idiots that scream when he does so little cause hes finally given up on pleasing a bunch of whiners

Avalon has a significant horde of supporters. Delaying progress because of "trolls" and punishing his actual fan base would be stupidity. He is not delaying to annoy "trolls". He is not very interested in working on the game. You could even say he is lazy. I am not saying he owes me shit. However, lets call it like it is and stop making excuses shall we? Because as you said your self:

>seriously its basic flash people, the hardest part is making sure the flags are all aimed right and the words show up where you told them to.

The game has been in development for what? A year and a half now? "Trolls" did not cause a basic flash game to have an extremely slow development. Laziness and lack of interest by one of the creators did.

>>3598
Not looking to start up an age-old argument, so I'm only going to post once in this topic.

First off, I've been on-and-off following these guys for a year or two now. I think I've seen every permutation of arguments for and against them, but honestly the arguments against them far outweigh the arguments for them. To sum it up as brief as I can:

Avalon/Avian have complained every little step of the way, made excuses for any delays, begged for donations, and has never met any deadlines that they've spoken of.

Secondly, people are bitching more about the fact these guys are lazy pricks who accept donations, but don't bother to meet deadlines and, when they do put out work, the effort put forth into the "finished" product doesn't even begin to match the amount of time allotted.

Take a look at the following games and their creators:

Mane6 - MLP:Fighting is Magic
Fenoxo - Corruption of Champions
pokehidden - MLP:FiM Dating sim
Gabe Logan - Legend of Queen Opala
Nuku/Valente - Flexible Survival
(Creator?) - Slave Maker 3
Zone-tan - Any Zone loop/movie/game

These guys and gals either have found a way to put out updates almost on a weekly schedule, admitted that what they are working on are side projects, or have met their deadlines with minor hiccups. In other words, these games will come out when they come out.

Avalon/Avian, however, are more comparable to PlayShapes or Crowchild. PlayShapes I don't think ever put out a finished project (although, to be fair, I'm not sure if he actually asked for any donations for anything to be completed) and Crowchild spends all his time bitching for donations, threatening to shut down the high tail hall server if fans don't keep donating for the very few copy-pasted character design and animation he's put out sporadically...only to delete them a few months later because he redesigned the entire game's layout again.

Take a major game like Resident Evil, Halo, Call of Duty, or Assassin's Creed, what would the fans think about the creators if the game developers said "Because of trolls, it'll be finished when it's finished." Especially, if the game developers already took pre-orders, promised a deadline and never delivered it when it was scheduled?

If they weren't getting payed for a product that they have barely even have completed, then I think people would be a lot more lenient on them. So, if you want to blame anyone for the trolls bitching about Avalon/Avian, then go blame Avalon/Avian themselves for how they handle their work.

...whew...and I'm spent. I think that's about everything. Enjoy reading, everypony! I'm outta here! *smoke bomb and slink away*

All of you should shut the fuck up about it and just let the fucking thing die already. He posts, irregularly mind you (I'd know cuz I follow him) on Inkbunny.com different Sonic-related art. So he's still working. The fact of the matter is if people keep bugging him to finish the game, he'll work on it more slowly just to spite them. I know I would. So seriously, shut the fuck up. This conversation is doing nothing, and I mean nothing but piss people off and cause arguments. I fucking love this game, don't get me wrong (but it's not my favorite porn-related game. That would be Corruption of Champions by Fenoxo). I think it's fucking hot as hell. But seriously, it'll be done when it's done, but in the meantime find yourself something to be preoccupied with other than A) being a troll and pissing people off and contributing nothing to society other than proving to future generations what fucking cunts everyone was, and B) Bitching and moaning about a game that, while having a lot, and I mean A LOT of potential, isn't the best out there (again, that would be Corruption of Champions). Seriously though, this guy is better than Playshapes, and much, much better than Crowchild (who is a lazy cunt, btw). Yeah that's right, I just called Crowchild a lazy cunt, cause he is. And if you've read this far type "Potato" in your next comment. That way I know you actually took the time to read it. At least Aval0nX and that other guy whose name escapes me actually are working on shit, even though it's not the game. Playshapes starts but never finishes cuz the guy has some major ADD or some shit. So does Crowchild, but the difference between him and Playshapes is that Playshapes actually acknowledges that fact that he's not gonna finish what he starts and gives the open source shit to people to finish/do what they want with. Crowchild on the other hand starts shit with a lot of potential, worlds more that Babysitting Cream, but doesn't finish them. He jut disappears off the face of the fucking Earth. Drunk minds speak sober thoughts, and that's my drunken rant done and over with.

>>3610
HI AVAL0N!

>>3610
>Defends Aval0nX
>Calls Crowchild lazy

Crowchild's problem is that he focuses on everything except for adding new girls to HTH2.

Aval0nX doesn't focus on anything.

Even after artists who draw in a similar style lined up to help him with his project, he rejected them while making up faults he found with their work. Having artists would have allowed him to focus only on programming and creating new areas.

>>3610
Well, you sure as hell seem drunk since you seem to be arguing out of your ass there. Shut the fuck up, get sober, and stop white knighting the fucker. You claim that he'll work slower to spite those that bug him and that's fucking stupid. Guess what, he cant work any slower because hes pretty much not working on it at all. I check his inkbunny occasionally and yeah, i'll agree that he does post, all be it irregularly, but it honestly never pertains to the game. He also has a fucking ego problem, always claiming that hes ruling over the trolls and how none of their arguments will be able to beat his arguments when in reality hes just a fucking fool who loses every fight and blindly boasts that hes won. As for your comparison with crowchild, the two are completely different.
As >>3618 has stated, Crowchild does work. Don't get me wrong, I'm not here to white knight him. Hes half a fucking retard and doesn't understand the basic concepts of scheduled working and fucking hides behind his god damn moderation team as they try to defend what little honor he has left, which is none, by the way. His moderation team is as fucking stupid as he is and that'll never change. The thing is though, I'll admit that crowchild works. Hes not as lazy as he seems, and as the post mentioned, crowchild is just fucking stupid. Hes constantly working, just never working on the right things. Remaking shit over and over as well as making new things that don't even need to be created. Avalon, however, is a fucking lazy piece of shit in comparison. Yeah, hes got a life, big fucking whoop. Treating it as a hobby doesnt mean taking an entire year to release another build that, once again, has no art in it and has maybe 2 or 3 more scenes available. Thats not "life getting in the way". Thats "I'm too fucking lazy to actually try."
The point here is that Avalon is a piece of shit, and you defending him is obviously equally as stupid. The guy is too busy not doing anything about the game, and when people ask him about it because THEY FUCKING WANT AN UPDATE AFTER A YEAR, he just shrugs them off and then makes a post about how people are whining to him. News flash, these people asking if hes working on the game or bugging him to know when the next update is going to be are his fucking fans, but hes apparently to blind to see that as he takes it as a personal hit. The guy needs to get an ego check and realize that he has nothing to say to really defend himself. Seriously, its not hard to code in a picture to a god damn text game. If anything he can at least admit that he fucking slacks off when it comes to the game, he barely works on it. The last time he posted anything pertaining to the game was almost a month ago, and they're all pretty much unfinished sprites. Other than that all hes posting lately is old works, works of grose, and other misc. shit.
If you were really following Avalon on Inkbunny, you'd probably see how horrible the condition of which this game is currently in. You'd also probably see how much of a scumbag Avalon really is as well. Get off your fucking podium, no one gives a shit that you're trying to defend him. Its as useless as trying to defend crowchild at this point. He's dug a hole deeper than he can climb out of and the only thing that'll save him is to stop being a complete asshat and actually work on the next build and releasing it.
Potato

would it be possible to take the latest version of the game and hack it to have unlimited days and have nothing else changed? i want to go through the process of unlocking events, not have it all given to me from the beginning. the problem with that is the 7 day limitation. anyone willing/able to do that?

>>3640
It would probably be easier to "hack" the game and just finish it.

And maybe put all the fucking art back into it...

>>3649
Plus you could most likely go ahead and add some of the art he's put up on his IB account.

For the people who want to "hack" the game just download a file called Minerva. You can edit your stats and set them to whatever you want. So on day 1 you can already be fucking Cream. All you have to do is load the game up save it. Then load up Minerva go to %appdata% \Roaming\Macromedia\Flash Player\#SharedObjects\QUZNCL36\inkbunny.net\files\full\292\292032_Aval0nX_bsc_build_98_04april2012.swf\testcookie3

Hopefully that helps everyone that is always asking for a "hacked" version of the game, now you can just edit it yourself. Now can we quit keeping this game relevant?

>>3677

slight problem. When i go into shared objects there is no QUZNCL36 there, only two others

>>3680
I'm not entirely sure, but I do believe the numbers are specific to your current computer, so it's random on every PC. Just choose one of the two and follow this, looking for a folder with the name of the swf file:

If you're playing it off the web, then search for the site you're playing it on.
(i.e. #SharedObjects>*random #'s/letters*>inkbunny.com)

If you're playing it from a file on your computer, then look for the folder called "localhost". From there, go to wherever you have the game file. (i.e. #ShareObjects>*random #'s/letters*>localhost>Users>*UserName*>Desktop)

So, has anyone played the current version of Avian's new game? I haven't myself, but it's good to see at least some progress on one of these games, even if it is in Game Maker.

https://inkbunny.net/journalview.php?id=61774

So apparently the v1.0 update is coming out today.
https://inkbunny.net/journalview.php?id=64671

We'll see about that...

>>3791

"I can't get the game to Aval0n yet, I'm sorry.
Here's the situation over at my side. I have a family visiting me and with my game/work computer in the living room and the house alive with activity, I am unable to work on the game. Aval0n has sent me the pictures and I have them ready to go. The first opportunity I have (perhaps tonight or tomorrow night) to work on the game I'll get the problems listed in the previous journal fixed and the game sent to Aval0n."

From Avian's page.

>>3792

Jesus christ this game...

The game hasn't been updated for fucking ever and when it does he's just going to be slapping his terrible art on it with no other changes besides bug fixes.

I don't even know why I keep checking for updates. Aval0n is a drama queen and really just seems like a shitty guy in general, all he does is make fucking terrible comics and posts ranting about how the fans who bother him are idiots or trolls or whatever.

It's been like three years and there's hardly any differences to the game. I don't understand why it's so hard to update a fucking text game. I play fenoxo and it's updated like every other day.

The game isn't even going to be fun when it's released because we've all played the same thing for three years now.

I understand that he's working on this for free and he's only obligated to do what he wants with it, I don't have a problem with that. But he's such a major dick to his fans.

I just checked his page today and there is one guy who called him out on how insulting he is to his fans. Just give it a couple days and, instead of anything useful to this now crappy game, he'll make another comic or some shit.

This is made worse that he really is a terrible artist. All he has to do is write and plug it into the game. I'm no game creator but that seems like it'd be a pretty easy thing to do for an honestly simplistic game that he's been working on for as much time as serious game developers.

>>3812

You should see the streams. Last time I bothered looking, Avian was there, constantly trying to calm down Avalon who was having bitchfits every 3 seconds like the autistic manbaby he is.

So this is what he's been working on. Wanna place bets on whether it gets finished.

This is really hilarious - for almost every single update, it's followed the same pattern.

>Date for new version announced
>Fapping hands are warmed up
>Deadline arrives
>Nothing
>Excuses made for lack of update
>Promises of "as soon as possible" made
>Silence
>Nothing

Seriously, you'd think that after this many times around the barn aval0n and Avian would have some self-awareness, or at least some common sense.

Oh Jeebus Crow, are there kids staying at Avian's place?

I hope no-one asks him to babysit...

>>3814
Reading this some how reminds me if this crazy story I've see in the news, this guy in Germany told his wife their daughter died or something but she was really in a secret room under the house. He'd go in there to... well... fuck her. So this was going on for I don't know how long maybe like 7 years? and through all that time the daughter got pregnant and had kids, what'd he do with the kids? Fucked them too. Cops found out about this and got'em. I sure that guy is in hell now next to Hitler but the horrible part in all this is that this REALLY HAPPENED!!!

At least Avalon just draws fucked up shit. Sorry for sharing something off-topic.

>>3824

>>3824
Joseph Fritzl

and that was in Austria, not Germany

>>3827
Oh! I knew it haddened somewhere in Europe but I forgot some of the details. I just hope that Joseph asshole is locked up somewhere getting mualed by a demon bear all day and raped all night! Again, sorry for going off-topic. Lets get back to the game that lets you do what parents fear most from babysitters.

>>3826
Funny movie!

>>3834
>Lets get back to the game that lets you do what parents fear most from babysitters.

Would you rather we focused on doing it in real life or have a game let us scratch that itch?

also

How old are you exactly?

>>3814
He has not made a continuations to this series at all.

>>3835
Look, buddy, if you're seriously suggesting that you need this game to somehow satisfy your needs to have sexual relationships with children you babysit instead of molesting them in person, then you have some very serious issues that need to be addressed.

>>3835
Hey now! I know its just a silly flash game with toons but the scenario has happened before. Look, I'm no hypocrite, calling you a pedophile because of this game is like calling myself a crime lord/drug dealer/pimp. PLEASE don't do this shit in real life, pedos get FUCKED UP in every meaning of the phrase in prison. TRUST ME ON THIS!!!

also

Being born in the 90s means I can't like the old Monty Python movies?

Pedos and pedo apologists. Good warning to avoid this game and everyone involved.

>>3838
>>3837

Hell, I couldn't bring myself to do it in real life (I assume none of you could/would either), I dont even babysit. And yet I, we, play this game. What does that make us? I'm not going to sugarcoat it, you know?

and 3838, Monty Python isn't (ever) the issue, it's the way you write. What with the excessive caps and exclamation marks, I'm inclined to believe you're underage. Or a woman, for that matter.

>>3839

Hi Goon

Babysitting Cream is a lousy game IMO, but I don't see any point in the moral panic around it. For most of the players, the events depicted are just a harmless fantasy. For those few who would actually like to re-enact this game with little Suzy next door, they have some serious issues even without this game.

It also makes me wonder why so many people are ok with "getting kicks out of slaughtering a horde of innocent people along with an army of policemen" or whatever that is you do in GTA but "getting kicks out of cartoon sex between two video game characters" somehow crosses the line.

>>3841
WHOA!!! I DO use a bunch of CAPS and EXCLAMATION MARKS!!! Okay, I'll stop.

>>3843
I've thought about this before but I guess when it come down to it, doing something like this in real life is what separates the pervs from the psychos. I don't know why but I like talking with you guys.

https://inkbunny.net/journalview.php?id=65420

Aval0nX lets everyone know that he isn't paying attention to the people calling him on his bullshit anymore, just like he's done on three separate occasions now. Also he didn't actually "promise" an "update" to the game on the 25th because the way he "defines" the term "update" depends on what your definition of the word "is" is. Or something.

>>3863
Its funny that literally all the drama hew harbors as an artist is because of his own faults. If he simply let shit slide and didnt give a fuck and stopped bringing up shit, it would eventually stop. On top of that, he just keeps coming back with challenging people to come at him in a live chat, but really hes not worth the time since he has to continue to make bullshit excuses.

Bringing up definitions of the word "update"? Seriously? The world "update" in these situations is implied "to bring up to date" rather than "informing" fans of the current situations.

I find it funny that he continues to challenge everyone to come at him, knowing no one could beat him in an argument. Since hes the only one who really knows whats going on, he can easily manipulate every situation to turn it in his favor because hes the artist. Although I'm pretty sure Avalon knows that a large amount of the shit said about him is true since he continues to hide behind his inkbunny loyalists who promote his incessant behavior, since, you know, Avalon "cant" be wrong because hes the artist.

Why oh why is this game still relevant? The only thing good about this game is the idea. The writing/pictures are horrible. It's like an illiterate 5 year old wrote it. Let the game die, quit worrying about an update, and quit worrying about Aval0nX. Damn, it's like you guys have nothing better to do then argue about a game that will never be finished.

>>3868

I wholeheartedly agree, I can't see how much drama can originate from such a poor game. But then again, it may be a matter of taste.

>>3868

I am of the mind frame that whomever is making this game is now purposely doing this to troll.

I know I would.

>>3871

There's not many alternatives. When you're starving, stale bread is a big deal.

What's stopping you guys from making something better than this? Look at the list >>3608 posted, a lot of these are successful because they've embraced the community submitted content!

You could use several engines for it, like ren'py or gamemaker, all it takes is a bit of initiative and you wouldn't have to put up with drama queen Avalon and failed-projects Avian.

>>3884
I do agree that more of us who have an interest in this and the ability to produce anything should work on projects like this, and I think some people in these threads do. I know I've worked off an on on projects, but I can't draw for shit and honestly my writing is fairly unpolished.

I think a collective project could potentially be good, but overall I think those projects can suffer a bit from lack of a single voice or guiding vision. I know the compiler/editor could and should work to prevent that.

I'd contribute to that to a community project if someone got the ball rolling, and I'm sure others would as well. I think what really need is more people to just work on more projects, and for those projects to be less ambitious and suspect to scope creep than certain games that this thread is about. Oh, and we need to find artists, because there are enough people who can write and program for this stuff.

>>3885

It'll be far easier to find artists once a working version with story is produced anyway, they're the smallest problem to overcome.

You guys are still talking about this garbage?

>>3888
I love how faggots like you post this, but when a new version comes out you're all "OH SHIT IT'S OUT QUICK SOMEONE GET A HACK."

>>3892 Au contraire, mon frere. We post things like that and then, when a new version comes out, we're all "What the fuck, seriously? It took Avalon a whole fucking year for this? He effectively removed one bug, added one shitty picture, and actually ADDED typos to old content!" then continue to say what we've been saying since the idea originally started in the fucking year 2006.

This game is fucking garbage.

I like this game. It makes me cum.

That is all.

>>3897
This started in 2006? Wow! I don't know if the game is garbage but thats a long time for a good update. Maybe I don't need to molest Cream that bad.

>>3904
Yeah, I lost interest in that too but I'm sure it had some good laughs in it... somewhere.

>>3904

Mind you, after all those years DNF turned out to be rather disappointing.

>>3909
... and you don't see the similarities? hmm interesting.

who cares about what HE meant by "update", what did avalon think people were going to take from that? the guy's a moron.

>>3914

I feel like he knew what people would take it as and is just a dick. I mean, nobody cares about a journal update ABOUT a game update - that's just stupid.

The update is just art anyway.

>>3922
Exactly, it's just art. I don't see why everyone is having a temper tantrum over art.

>>3885
I lost faith in community projects after 'Camp Sherwood'.
The only thing more unreliable than one guy is twenty guys you can only reach through a furry message board. Although, I'd be glad to donate my incredibly mediocre art to this frankenstein if we actually tried to get something together.

>>3923
a good art can make the difference between a scene that gets your boner going and a scene that can ruin pants at 20 yards.

>>3924 here
Also, lel.

Haven't checked this shit for 4 months and decided to drop in just in time to witness Avalon still being completely worthless. I absolutely do not believe the art is done, and I hope that anyone who defends Avalon accidentally falls in a wood chipper and loses as much of their arms as they need to fap.

Avalon is a crybaby attention whore. He fucked up by relying on a half wit to code his game, and instead of addressing that they botched their deadline he just washed his hands of the whole thing and said "go bother avian lol"

Avian meanwhile has just completely ignored almost everything to do with the game, then attention baited retards with his "It's too hard to explain boohoo I'm so troubled and mysterious pay attention to me" bullshit. What a pair of nincompoops.

At this point I think I'm enjoying the drama more than the game.
There should be a Furaffinity Attention Whore/Drama Queen sim in Flash, where you try to get as much attention as possible by making eternal beta version furry flash porn and ripping people off for commission money, while BAWing about your first world problems.

>>3978


Ooh, and there should be a "Leave the fandom forever!" button that just skips 5 turns.

Hack it PLEASE!!!!

NO

>>4025
Just learn to use Minerva you big baby. It's simple.

There are approx. 4674 different hacks floating around the net. If you can't find a single one, it's your problem.

Minerva is very easy to use. Just open the game up in internet explorer makes a save, and I think the rest is posted somewhere in this thread. Of how to use minerva.

and so the rage about BSC continues. all the bickering and posts by the two dipshits still doesn't change this: Everyone is bickering over a game that will never reach its end. Aval0n gave the middle finger to Avian, saying he's holding shit up. Avian is ducking behind his studies. And people still complain when in the duration of this whole arguement, a couple of more competent people could have taken this, added aval0n's art, and finish the code, yet they are either too lazy or they are afraid to because one or the other will wave the copyright flag. This joke has gone on for too long people. Can't we put it to rest?

>>4069
You must be new to the Furry Fandom and how furries approach logical thought.

They don't. They scream and beg and cry and yell and get angry, but they don't do the logical thing and let a subject die.

ok, please write how can I hack it myself, or at least full name of program with which I can do it?

and please post hele a link or file of the last version of this game?

>>4085
Here's a step-by-step guide to hack babysitting cream.

1) Download and install Minerva: http://blog.coursevector.com/minerva

2a) Download whatever version of Babysitting Cream you want: http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Babysitting_Cream

2b) Find a website that has it hosted.

3) Start the game, play until you can save, then save a file and close the game.

4) Load up Minerva and click "Open..."

5) Navigate to #SharedObjects/(Random Letters/Numbers)/

6a) If you're playing from a file on your HD, then open the folder called "localhost" and then navigate to where your babysitting cream is located. (if your file is on your desktop it would be at: #SharedObjects/(random)/localhost/users/(current user name)/desktop/)

6b) If you're playing from a web-hosted file, then open the website's folder and navigate to where the file would be. If the file is hosted on pawsru, I think it's "#SharedObjects/(random)/pawsru.org/flash/src/".

(6a & 6b tip: type the specific folder's name in the "File name" box to save you some time looking through lots of folders from various websites)

7) Open the Babysitting Cream file's folder and select the only file there (if you saved more than one, then the first file is named "testcookie3", the rest are "savestate2", "savestate3" and so forth). Open it.

8) Click on the little arrow next to the file name you just opened (>testcookie3).

(Note: Different versions of the game have different variable names and arrays, so for now I'll just be talking about v98's modification. If you want to modify any other version, then just do so using your own judgement. I don't think the previous versions are as hard to read as v98.)

9) Find the array called "SMain" and "SStats" and click the arrow next to them to open them up. Here is the following stats you wish to modify:

SMain
0=Energy
1=Day
2=RWC
3=Rings

SStats
0=Happiness
1=Peeping
2=Lust
3=Jerking Off
4=Exposure
5=Touch
6=Moral Alignment
7=Hunger

10) After modifying whatever, save the file in Minerva and open the game file, or reload it if it's already open.

11) If you've saved the game again and wish to modify the most recent save, then click the "Close" button in Minerva and then "Open" the same file you just closed. This will get the most recent save file.

Note: If you don't do this, then saving the file again in Minerva will undo any change you did in the game.

------

Think that's all. Enjoy, everypony!

https://inkbunny.net/journalview.php?id=69639
>Avian DeByrd: I'm almost done, I just want to redo the warning scenes and add Tails to his phonecall event.

>so yeah start the hype or whatever

>start the hype

>>4090
>start the hype

BRING THE NOISE

Warnings should only take a few minutes, and hopefully the tails thing only takes a day or two.

>>4096
>hopefully the tails thing only takes a week or two.

Fixed

I wonder how much this thread will blow up when people see the dude posted the new one on inkbunny.

fuck yeah, finally

.minerva edit's aren't working, he did something to the data where it wont read them when they're edited with it, from what i can tell there's a data size difference in what .min will open and so it can't save them right.

anyone have any clues?

>>4107

Minerva works, you just have to reload the flash in order for any changes to take effect with the save file.

would love a hacked version if possible!

>>4087
I literaly could not get past step 5 (It seems #sharedobjects does not exist in my pc)

>>4107
Not working for me as well, the files save but when I go to load my game there's no save file.

I went through this fully as far as I can tell. Besides the random character art (knuckles, tails, etc), there's maybe 5 new pieces of art that he added. There isn't really any difference from the older version either except in two or three instances.

typical furry "artist" with a huge ego and nothing to back it up

>>4105
TEN WHOLE NEW ARTWORKS!?! AMAZING!!

I mean, its not like there are upwards of ten scenes before you even really get going.


>>3975
Blames coder for avalon's shortcomings.
Ten new arts in the release.
SURE SOUNDS LIKE A CODE PROBLEM TO ME

>>4111
What OS are you running?

>>4112
Check your browser options and make sure you have enabled cookies to be placed.

>>4107
The minerva editing still works for me, even in the new...er...updated...uhm...recently slightly modified version of BSC.

>>4111
I posted that for Windows users, so if you're operating under Mac or Linux, might need to check wikipedia for the location specifics on your specific OS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_shared_object

>>4118
Got it to work by switching browsers. Minerva opens it up fine from Firefox but not with Chrome, also finds the save by the correct file name.

>>4118

How the hell do you enable cookies to be placed? Also, I can't find the game file. I have to search for the #SharedObjects folder (it seems to be hidden, for some stupid ass reason..), and I got to the 'localhost' folder, but that's as far as I can get. I opened it up, ans the only folders in it are 'Program Files (x86)' and 'FromMemory'

>>4118

Never mind, I figured it out. >.< Gave me a headache, but I figured it out.

Has anyone figured out where the art is squirreled away? Found one in the bathroom, one in the bedroom, and one with the game of tag in the back yard. Checked most of the options. Didn't seem worth it to waste all my time.

Also, this is almost literally the exact same game that it was months ago. At least now we have a metric for art production. At this rate, we can expect it to be fully included by roughly 2032

>>4105
You actually released this shit?!? AND ON TIME!!?!?!!?!? 【•】Д【•】

[I still don't expect much - If anything - new. >_> ]

>>4126
he released the same game from months ago, and a month late. Not exactly sterling, there

Can someone post a hacked version here? I tried to igure it out by myself, but Im not very good at this kin of stuff >_>

http://www.mediafire.com/?nc6kby513xpurno

a save file that someone made

>>4129
Those instructions were terrible... can someone hack this thing?

>>4135

I can't hack the game without a flash editor, but a few people (including me) have hacked the save file. I'm sorry, but without a flash editor, I can't actually hack the game itself.

So what exactly is the new art in this version? I've seen a few new character shots when Knuckles/Amy/Sally/Tails/Blaze are on screen, and one scene where you jerk off in the shower, that's about it.

>>4141
thats pretty much it.

Although if you go on Avalon's inkbunny and see his retarded supporters, you can see why he flaunts his own shit and believes that this is pretty much the best update ever, regardless of the fact that its pretty much the exact same as the previous build.

Hack'd!

https://inkbunny.net/submissionview.php?id=365786

>>4146

ERROR: This submission is set hidden. You do not have permission to view it.

>>4146
Hey, Fuzzy, any chance of you uploading it here to paws.ru?

here

Look, I'm here for the supposed new art. Just tell me, where the heck is it?

Bathroom, Vanilla's bedroom, backyard, foundtain square. those are just the ones I have found so far.

Is there a scene with tails? How do you get it? I can get him, sonic, and cream to swim in the pool, cream topless, and then he takes a rage and leaves.

>>4168
It may be linked to Sanic's moral alignment, but in my game when Tails confronted Sanic about Cream swimming topless, there's an option to rape Tails. D:

Or it just happens based on your alignment, I dunno it sucks either way so whogivesafuck.

>>4175
It's definitely linked to alignment, at least it was in earlier versions. Before I had all the requirements to get the scene except alignment and I got nothing, but after reloading an earlier save and grinding some negative alignment I was able to get the scene (and honestly I wish I hadn't).

SONIC, Y U NO CONSENSUAL SEX WITH TAILS?

Apparently his fans got butthurt over the homo content. But pedophilia is totally OK! (facepaw)
Geeze, what are thay gonna do, botcott it? Cut his funding? The one time he actually listens to the assholes who play his game and it's to take out the one little bastard who I'd like to fuck...

Honestly, the funniest part about all of this drama is how much people are obsessing over a game that consists of mediocre art and text-fuck written at a third grade level. I've seen better writing on furnet. And that's saying something. That's really saying something.
Just move on people, there is better stuff to fap to by a significant margin.

That's NO GOOD!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcrtkiLEGbE

>>4149
Shits broke. You can't get her to immediately take off her dress. And The Lovely Lingerie scene she says they've already been there. =/

somebody take screen shots of all the good stuff, please?

>>4200
you start with super high stats, unlimited energy, and all key items. the langerie bit is a key item so he has you start with it, you also start with her bathing suit top. this does mean you cant get the scenes in which you gain key items (no walking in on her using the carrot vibe, because you already have it). however you do start at base for her taking off her closes, and she starts as a virgin, so in order to get her to take off her cloths you need to do one o the scenes where you would get her to do so, and you have to do a "take her virginity" scene befor she will take off her panties.

>>4185
Well hhe also used it as an excuse to break the fourth wall with Knuckles (and maybe toss out any scene between him and Sonic). Either way it means no Knuckles scene for now, and that's just hugely disappointing for me.
Now if he never intended on there being a scene like that that would be one thing, it would just mean he was getting a shot at those fans where he could, or if he were just using that as a place holder for the actual scene that would be okay. I somewhat doubt it was the former given some of his art though.

>>4185
>"a gay scene with Tails and Sonic would only satisfy the minority"
>in the furry fandom

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

>>4205

Why? The art sucks a fat one.

Is there a way to actually rape Cream?

>>4525
What are you, a monster?

>>4209
there's nothing involving knuckles in the current build, right?

>>4528
Well it depends on what you mean, but there's no direct Sonic/Knuckles action or anything. When you invite him over you can choose to watch an adult movie and the both of them will jerk off to it, and if you've gotten far enough with Cream you invite him to a mostly undescribed threeway with her.

>>4528
>>4532

Nor will there be in any later builds it would seem.

>>4207
To make Cream nude, just go to backward and rub her pussy. Don't make she suck your dick. After you unlock that, to take her virginity, go to living room and remove her clothes and proceed with that and you're good for rest of time.
Just don't get busted by furry police.

One suggestion, go to beach in the first day if you want to see one scene.

You're at AvalOnX's place. He suggests pizza. Awkward silence ensues.

What do you do, hotshot? WHAT DO YOU DO?

^^
Nothing, you're perfectly fine unless you happen to be a prepubecent girl. If that's the case, don't wait for the pizza, it's not worth it.

>>4552
You get the baseball bat and go to town?

>>4552

https://inkbunny.net/journalview.php?id=79017
>Part of it is that I'm just not experienced enough to handle anything bigger then Babysitting Cream. That and I've kind of become disillusioned with visual novel games as well as point and click games too.
Oh, well that's too bad. I was hoping that Knuckles Getaway might not be a dead/on hold project, but oh well.

>There's nothing wrong with that genre but I just haven't felt that happy with it for a while. I want to make an action adventure platforming game.
Wait, so, action adventure platformer is smaller than a point and click adventure/visual novel? Because that's what BSC is, and something tells me even two of those words put together would be bigger than BSC.

hi

https://inkbunny.net/journalview.php?id=82444

> I'm gonna be working on BSC if I can (though I still need Aval0n's input and pictures)

>>4860
= i'm done, but i'm still gonna fuck around because why the fuck not?

ll this supposed new art? i have not found 10 new things

It's pretty fucking clear that Avalon hoodwinked all the people who donated, just stringing them along with half-assed attempts to mooch more donations from them. I'd love it if someone dove into this game, ripped it apart, rebuilt it, and finished it before he could even get his pants on. Which, based on what we've seen from him, is more likely to occur than him actually finishing what he started.

I can't wait

>>5261
Dude cancer will be cured before he sketches another pic for the game.

>>5369
to be fair, he has gotten quite a bit of the art almost done. Although, on a negative view point, just goes to show how much he was fucking slacking on the game when he suddenly puts out like, 7 or 8 lined pieces randomly yet couldn't do more than like, one or two for the most recent update.

None of which seem to be done yet, i could be wrong, he might just not be posting them.

>>5386
people still give a shit about this thing? its been around for over 4 years, move on to better Flash porn already.

Like what? as far as i know this is the only erotic furry dating sim out there. and this one is pretty damn good too! i will admit its been slow going but i still enjoyed the FREE game.

has anyone got any new updates?

I was a sophomore in high school when this game came out.

I have since graduated college without this game being finished

Why do we keep coming back?

has anyone been able to trigger this scenario:

"Cream: *Blushes* I already know that, Mr. Sonic.I know you like me without my panties as well.

She turns around, slipping off the rest of her clothes, and leans against the dressing room bench.You can\'t resist her cute tail as you slip off your pants and lift her hips up.

Cream gives out a small yelp as she feels your cock tip press against her pussy, sending a shiver up her spine.You don\'t want to make too much noise, though, so you keep your panting and moans to a minimum."

it supposedly happens in the dressing room at one of the clothes shops at the mall but I've tried everything and I can't get it to appear. It's always the scenario where "the mood is already ruined".

>>5503

also here are some things the hacked version has bugged/made unobtainable to experience:

1.) "ALL ITEMS UNLOCKED" hack bugged a special scene where Cream gets to try out sexy panties at the mall. That part is gonna get special sexy art. Now there is no way to trigger it.
2.) "ALL ITEMS UNLOCKED" hack also bugged the scene where you catch cream masturbating with the carrot dildo. That is going to get sexy art to but with "ALL ITEMS UNLOCKED" hack, there is absolutely no way to trigger the scenario EVER.
3.) and again, "ALL ITEMS UNLOCKED" bugged a future update scenario where Sonic will get Vanilla's Business card from rouge containing her secret phone number that will trigger a future milf+daughter sex scene.

Any news of it? At least new art?

>>5539
Of course not, its AvalonX. There will never be any news on the game or any estimated release of the next version or anything. Only thing you'll hear from him is something about "fuck the haters" and how he could out argue anyone on the subject on skype.

>>5545
This guy gets it. This was honestly an extremely promising project to me once. Sadly, Avalon was such a whiny ineffectual cunt that it has become a joke. I stopped expecting to see anything come from this YEARS ago. I was almost surprised when the "art" update came out, but this game has been practically the same game forever, updates be damned.

I can only pray that in a year's time, enough people will have stopped asking about this shit that it will drop off of pawsru and I can finally stop pining for what shall never be

Hey, here's a shocker. 3 months since I've checked in, and no updates.