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13 No. 13 ID: 794827
Post your M/M content here!
Please feel free to add a basic description of what's contained in the flash, especially if any hard fetishes are involved.
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>> No. 5266 ID: b655e4
>>5264

Who the fuck cares?
>> No. 5267 ID: 0fcd0a
>>5266
The autistic artist whining about it apparently.
>> No. 5268 ID: 5f1fbe
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5268
>>5267
Buuuhuuuu... Garyu is so nasty... Good one :D

>>5099
Let's go back to Sherlock :D Yugo is always the same Yugo. There are just two updates to the original. I am not uploading each of it as a brand new item. Bad job Sherlock... bad job. As far as Anubis goes: The first version was based on Yugo, cause I did try some stuff with layers, masking, etc. It was mentioned in the informations and whatever... The version you have to buy does have mostly redone graphics. His legs are reused and the pose is similar, but not the same.

Talking about using the same model over and over: If you pay more than 100 bucks for a Animation by horse, you get the same model you already know, just with a specific texture and maybe different hair. Doesn't seem to be a problem there, eh?

Anyways: Here's some Flash for the flash-thread :D
>> No. 5270 ID: f97f53
I have to correct something: The outlines of the abs are the same as well. Just didn't turn out the way I wanted so I recycled that. The whole texturing and shading is different though.

And I can get more into details. The balls for example are no graphics and motion tween, they are open vectors with form tweens. The bones are different, the movements, there's even way more programming in the background.

"mildly different" up your ass :D But you are free to think and say whatever you want.
>> No. 5271 ID: 0fcd0a
Horse (or similar individuals) is a many scumbag when comes to pricing - More so because 99% of 3D artists are absolutely ludicrous with their price models. 2D artists are just as guilty, so let's get to that.

The obvious aside, the price model Garyu has been so modest enough to provide us is the "Get what you paid for model", which is based on what artists like -insert_insanely_overpriced_artist_here- uses.
Spending 100USD on a half-decent picture? Spend 15USD on a terrible one instead!

tl;dr - There exists a line between Cheaper and Better, it's called "Value". It can be very poor regardless of whether you're spending 100 USD for 3D work or 5 USD for 2D work.
>> No. 5272 ID: 0fcd0a
>>5271
On a more serious note, people shouldn't commission anyone online for anything. They'd be doing themselves and the artist community a huge favor.
>> No. 5273 ID: f97f53
>>5271
the "pay what you want" did not work with the IB-system, so I had a hard time coming up with a price tag - but 5 bucks should be okay. The whole management on IB seemed like a good idea too, because handling that stuff on your own sure is a lot of work. And it is getting even more work, if one person contacts you on almost every site you are on - with different usernames of course. MEH!

Too bad I did not notice the IB-Sale-System was down, unless the first people contacted me about that issue. Means: I have to send the file(s) and whatever on my own now anyways. Meh-Meh!

Anyways, I can see why you have to pay 100-350 bucks for a 3D Animation. It's a hell of a job, even though your computer will be more busy rendering the whole stuff, than you are modeling :D
But I just cannot see any justification for that price if the model is reused over and over again. That's just like those humplex animations. They are very well done, but it's the same over and over again... 10 buck every month for that? NAH... And why is it being called "giveaway"?

But the models and animations of horse are good and way better than crappy poser animations.
>> No. 5274 ID: f97f53
oh wait... you said "Get what you paid for model". *DOH*
>> No. 5275 ID: 5bd41e
>>5271

I can't believe I'm going to slightly agree with Garyu here. Do you realize just how much work goes into creating a 3D model? A hell of a lot more work than what goes into drawing, I can assure you of that.

For -creating- custom 3D models, a price of above $100 is MORE than justified for its first creation. Using the model afterwards for like, static poses, is another story though, I'll admit.

If you want to talk about animating said models, however, that also has a LOT of work going into it. It isn't just "pull this slider here and there and bam it's done" at all.

So really, while it sucks to say it, a lot of the time the prices are quite justified in a way. Though it still wouldn't kill them to go just a bit cheaper. Just a small bit.

>>5272

what

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In all honesty I probably would've tossed 5 bucks to Garyu for the Anubis animation, 'cause I like Anubis porn and such, but really, his reaction here about it being requested and then reaction towards people saying he blocked them was just...completely silly and kind of mind-boggling.
>> No. 5277 ID: 0fcd0a
>>5275
I work on 3D models quite often, as well as with those who also make 3D models. I did make the mistake of not being specific about what aspect of 3D modelling I was addressing, so I will correct that.
Making a 3D model from scratch can be down within a mere hour, plus 1 more hour to carve carve the basic shape, plus 2 more hours to map our and properly texture. Actually, texture is perhaps the easiest part if you know what you are doing. Of course, if you're not too familiar with all the tricks of the programs you use, this could end up taking up to 6 hours total or more.
On average, a basic model can be made within 3-4hours - Meaning the 100USD pays for what would be between 25USD-33USD hour of work, which is fucking stupid but I'll dig into that later. This is just the minimum price, I've seen worse models sell for over 300USD a pop.

Yes, equipment costs money. A decent PC capable of rendering these models would run about 600USD(or 1000USD if you want a kick ass GPU), because you'd be out of your mind not to build one yourself(But if you work in a studio, this also shouldn't be a problem). To note, you already paid for this so it has no effect on what the price of products produced by it should be. Moving on...

Animation is a nightmare. These will easily run up and over 100USD. Whole teams are formed just to do this one task, so needless to say any sort of animated 3D work comes with a hefty pricetag. This is also why models, skeletons, props, and their relevant animations also get reused, reskinned, etc quite a bit.

So otherwise, the pricetag on just the model alone(even built from scratch) is fucking stupid for one justifiable reason and just one only: You're trying to pay your bills with it.
Which means that you have no sort of fixed income and you have terrible priorities because you allowed yourself to enter that kind of lifestyle. The standard price on a basic model shouldn't extent 40USD, detailed ones shouldn't extend 80USD.

In Garyu's case on the 2D perspective, what he has done is actually the exact opposite. 5USD for what you're getting, despite how disappointing it may end up being, is certainly an acceptable deal when you have to factor in things like time, resources, etc. Little effort, little cost, little price. Standard drawing idle around a fair 10 USD, animations which are drawn frame-by-frame vary depending on frame-rate and duration of unique content(not to be confused with loops). However, like with 3D works, animations end up getting reskinned or reused so their face value depletes to say... The 5 USD Garyu is asking for.

But why is this still a poor value? Because the animation that is being reskinned can be located at no cost, aside from your own time and effort trying to find it buried in the internet.

In Garyu's defense, he's offering a decent deal and I myself was considering perhaps tossing a meaningless 5USD for something that rarely shows up in flash format anymore - That being an Anubis-based character. However, his actions here have been far more entertaining and he's been willing to offer us more with no additional cost so I think I'll just hold on to that 5 USD, at least until this train has run out of track.
>> No. 5278 ID: 5bd41e
>>5277

Animating with 3D models terrifies me, honestly. Working with 3D modeling can be quite fun, but damn. It was just a bit of a hobby for me because I wanted to learn something new in my spare time.

Also I like that you actually replied in a civil manner instead of a "LOLWUT" kind of fashion. And supplied interesting information.

Though, I see you're saying "basic models". I think this might be where I got a little bit off-track with what you were saying, because I was thinking of more complex model designs and whatnot--but let's face it, we're talking about people like H0rs3 here, lol.

So yeah, I'll concede and agree with you, he shouldn't be charging what he does for the models he makes. Even just looking at them you can kind of tell they're really only re-textured models (slight edits on the model itself too, sometimes). But people go for it because penis is involved.

I had other things I thought of saying but my mind is derping from lack of sleep, and thus I forget.

>...at least until this train has run out of track.

I think it ran out of track a long time ago. Still funny though.
>> No. 5280 ID: 5f1fbe
the reaction you get is just fitting to your own reactions. again: you may missed the reasony why you're being blocked on most sites, but that's not my problem, is it? I mentioned reasons more than once - but reading seems hard these days. Maybe I should paint a Picture about the reasons and include a giant penis. People would look at it more closely.
>> No. 5281 ID: 5bd41e
>>5280

I didn't say I was blocked on any of your site profiles. (That would be a hell of a feat given you don't know who the fuck I am.) I said other people.

Maybe you should take your own advice.
>> No. 5283 ID: f97f53
>>5281
that "you" for not aimed at "you", it was the "plural you".

Maybe I do know who you are...? but I am not getting into that kindergarten game. You say a name, and all you get is a "nope, you are wrong", even if you are right.

Anyways. Why should I be responsible for the stuff people make up?

For example: I am responsible for blocking a lot of people - but not for their "blocking without reason". I don't block without reason.

Or another one! I am responsible for saying "Why can't you just read/ask/respect the artist?" (because I mark my stuff as "please don not distribute without permission/asking me first). So why should I take any responsibility for the made up "DON'T DOWNLOAD MY STUFF ZOMFG I HOPE YOU BURN IN HELL AND GET AIDS IF YOU POST IT".

For the record: Where's the flash in this flash-thread?
>> No. 5284 ID: 5bd41e
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5284
>>5283

You aren't getting into a 'game'. You literally do not know who I am because I have never posted on any of your profiles. I'm not even watching you on any of your profiles. I only have an FA account, of which I almost never use. So no, you do not know who I am.

>For the record: Where's the flash in this flash-thread?

Don't start. You haven't even contributed a single thing to this thread yourself, other than your petulant whining behavior.
>> No. 5287 ID: 5f1fbe
>>5284
sure... like you are THE uber-contibutor in this thread... I was about to post my stuff, but than your (plurar your) petulant whining behavior showed up again. Not to mention it started before I was here, cause somebody requested a certain file from ME.

But the main Thing is: You know so much about me and my accounts, right? YOu are just starting gain - and that was pretty obvious.
>> No. 5288 ID: 5bd41e
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5288
>>5287

lol, kay
>> No. 5293 ID: f97f53
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5293
silly loop - but the only file I can call "gay" (since male only can be straight as well)
>> No. 5294 ID: c49191
>>5293
why are furries so pedantic about that? the arguments over all the (stupid and wrong) tags on e621 are the same way.

a gay man would be interested in seeing a solo male. that's all that matters.

the tags on e621 are completely useless for actually filtering what you want to see because they sperg so hard about it
>> No. 5295 ID: f97f53
Thread says "Gay Flashes - Post your M/M content here!". So... why should someone post just M?

Not pedantic about it, just saying. And it's a matter of fact a single male is not supposed to be gay.
>> No. 5296 ID: 5bd41e
>>5294

>the tags on e621 are completely useless for actually filtering what you want to see because they sperg so hard about it

I hate the fact that they go by a "tag what you see" system.

And of course, if you even try to fix the tags to what they should be on the thousands of incorrectly tagged submissions, the moderators and the community get mad at you. Fuck the fact that it is potentially your art and/or your characters.

It's really not that hard to see why a lot of people don't want their crap uploaded to that site.



>a gay man would be interested in seeing a solo male. that's all that matters.

Also, this.

It's been 2 years since the thread has been posted and I haven't really looked through it in just as long, but I'm fairly certain some solo stuff has been posted. There's nothing wrong with doing so. Solo M doesn't need to be labeled as gay to be posted in here.
>> No. 5300 ID: c49191
>>5295
ughh this entire post of yours could be in the dictionary as an example of pedantic how can you not see that it makes my head spin
>> No. 5303 ID: f97f53
>>5300
there c49191 goes again...

If there is anything pedantic, it's the drama about this simple fact: a solo male is not gay right away. The thread doesn't say "what gays want to see" it says "gay flashes - post your m/m stuff here".
Bet you would be one of the first to drama, if somebody was posting M/M cub stuff here, eh? Even though it's M or M/M after all, right?

Maybe you should clean in front of your door, before you tell others to do so? You just don't see how pedantic you are on your own. Just look at your postings. You didn't upload a single shit and all you can come up with is random nagging.

And for the record: I never said gays don't look at single male stuff.
>> No. 5304 ID: c49191
do you even know what the word means? because from that post you don't have a clue
>> No. 5305 ID: c49191
yep, i just checked both my dictionaries and i sure don't see "guy who makes fun of furries being furries" anywhere under pedant
>> No. 5306 ID: c49191
"guy who calls pedophiles pedophiles in their own thread" isn't showing up anywhere either. where did you buy your dictionary?
>> No. 5308 ID: 8793b8
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5308
is all the crap going on here about that anubis flash

it doesnt even look worth getting
>> No. 5309 ID: c49191
i dunno about the rest of this nonsense but the latest one is nothing about nothing. im just poking a pedant
>> No. 5310 ID: 5bd41e
>>5309

you're bored, aren't you?
>> No. 5311 ID: c49191
it literally takes seconds to post a post and i watch the boards when i'm at my computer anyway. i'm doing other things
>> No. 5313 ID: aef453
>>5308
That was originally the issue, but at this point it's just a sad display from all involved, who are now arguing over pointless shit completely unrelated to the original topic, just for argument's sake.
>> No. 5314 ID: 8361a4
dunno - I don't have the "c49191 - world, world - c49191" DICKtionary.
>> No. 5315 ID: 8361a4
>>5313
we went back to topic, but someone seems to have a problem with a certain POV and come up with "gays enjoy to look at straight men and that's all that matters".
>> No. 5316 ID: c49191
some person: "well i can only post this one because my other flashes only have one guy and thats not gay"

me: "who cares? you're worrying about pointless details. gay guys want to see guys"

some guy: "YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE"

oook w/e it's not my fault you people flip out so easy
>> No. 5317 ID: f97f53
>>5316
And that's the problem: I never said "YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE". Thanks for showing once more folks like YOU tend to make stuff just up.

Upload something on your own and don't worry how others manage it. You don't have to do it the same way and others don't have to do it on your way.
>> No. 5319 ID: c49191
so you're super needlessly defensive about your pedantery? cool i guess. you keep on keepin on
>> No. 5320 ID: f97f53
>>5310
confirmed...
>> No. 5322 ID: c49191
sure whatever helps you sleep at night, just post more content already. this thread is a clusterfuck
>> No. 5323 ID: f97f53
YOU are not in the position to say " just post more content already".
>> No. 5389 ID: f753ed
yep...dead thread...>.<..realy..no one is making anything anymore..geez..did everyone go the crow line of "if im not geting $100 a pop..im not doing it"..seems so.
>> No. 5395 ID: 42374e
>>5389

I think it's FA's sudden trend of morons turning their half assed loops and cock tease into auctions to make money.

It's flooded the site and turned it into garbage.

It sickens me.
>> No. 5397 ID: 0fcd0a
>>5395
FA has been garbage for a while now.

It downgraded itself from a site which was meant to promote and feature art into a anthropomorphic 'social' clusterfuck, so of course it was going to stagnate into what it is now.

It's trying too hard to be DA, and as far as I'm concerned it succeeded - At being a shitty knockoff.
>> No. 5406 ID: f97f53
isn't that the issue on all "art" pages? it's more about quantity than quality... at least for about 90% of the people posting "art"
>> No. 5419 ID: 2a4637
idk..SoFurry isnt too bad..waaaaaay better than FA..least they have SOME..quaility requirments..and dont allow the randm seisure light show kinda BS flashes
>> No. 5425 ID: 0fcd0a
>>5419
Saying something is "way better than FA" is like saying the flu is less life-threatening than cancer. They're both still bad in their own way and require a remedy to fix.

Personally, I'm not a fan of SoFurry for several reasons and I think its the worst alternative(excluding dA). Is it as problematic as FA? Of course not, but that's not to say it doesn't have its own problems.
>> No. 5426 ID: 509f1c
Two dragons fuck in an alleyway

http://swfchan.com/190650335/?m_1351557518349_alleyway.swf

Mrrr jasonafex
>> No. 5427 ID: 509f1c
Flamedramon. 'Nuff said.

http://swfchan.com/263479086/?m_1337806665463.jasonafex_flamedramon_loveseat_jasonafex.swf
>> No. 5458 ID: 6bc032
Mrrrm ferals :3

http://swfchan.com/267431634/?h0rs3_Boston_Bolt_and_Balto.swf
>> No. 5778 ID: ec95f9
realy...nothing in 2 months?...>.<
>> No. 5780 ID: ca3c03
Nothing worth mentioning
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