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In many ways, I'm thinking of the parent. What can you control? It is important to be mindful about what we do present to children regarding intimacy and relationships.'\"\n\n-ABC News (Texas): https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/pepe-le-pew-looney-tunes-cancelled-rape-culture-six-flags-over-texas/287-26a5b989-ae38-4ac7-a6c2-4ce2c4bdfd16\n\nNo one has ever raped or been raped because 'Pepe le Pew'.\n\nHYPOTHETICALWATCHER: \"That's a claim; claims aren't evidence\"\n\nOk, but Pepe le Pew has been going since the 1940's ...what happened to turn the world against him NOW?\n\nArguably the most powerful force on earth: a tweet. :P\n\n\"This helped teach boys that “no” didn’t really mean no, that it was a part of “the game”, the starting line of a power struggle. It taught overcoming a woman’s strenuous, even physical objections, was normal, adorable, funny. They didn’t even give the woman the ability to SPEAK\"\n\n-Charles M Blow (Twitter)\n\nAnd this tweet was supported by a great many persons whose replies seem to express similar sentiments as Blow's ...which reenforces my view that Pepe didn't condition children against commonsense (therefore Pepe's behavior is a nonissue).\n\nTL;DR: a great many persons who're familiar with the character grew up knowing 'no means no', so... what damage has Pepe done?\n\nEither way, the character was supposed to be (needlessly) reprimanded in SJ2 ...which might have been funny if not (again) a bit unnecessary. Was that not good enough?\n\nI'll not contribute much more towards this; I went down a similar rabbit hole in regards to the squirrel girl from The Sword in the Stone---I don't like to argue and I'm not interested in losing friends over trivial drama.\nAdditionally, no matter what one believes about Pepe, there is one thing left to consider---the reason I'm not giving my money or time to SJ2...\n\nPepe was axed to help promote the movie.\n\nYup! That's my little 'conspiracy'.\n\nHYPOTHETICALWATCHER: \"So you believe this effect was intentional on WB's part rather than incidental?\"\n\nMhm. :3\n\nPepe was canned for the same reason the 'Mr.' was removed from the 'Mr. PotatoHead' brand: for product promotion and social brownie points.\nThe decision to remove the Pepe from SJ2 was done last-minute in response to the internet ...not for moral reasons (no one writing for or animating this movie was unaware of Pepe le Pew and his character), but for social and monetary ones.\nBlow's tweet has spread word/reminders of 'Space Jam 2' across many social-media and news sites, with very minimal cost to the film's distributors/producers (not like Pepe was going to be a central character---he'd've been given a cameo at best, as in the first film).\n\nExpunging le Pew from the movie HELPS the movie---the decision is counted as a good thing, esp. by the younger crowd (which the movie made for anyway).\n\nHYPOTHETICALWATCHER: \"There'so evidence for any of this\"\n\nI can't prove it, but I'll say pulling le Pew from the movie was done for only one of the following or the other:\n\n1. cowardice (oh no, don't cancel our movie!)\n2. brownie points and cheap promotion (my position because I'm a cynic)\n\nSo, yeah, either way... 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...Ok, yeah, I'm about to give my unasked-for and unwanted two cents on this matter (bear with me)!
Can you all name a furry who ISN'T going to see 'Space Jam 2'?
If you answered 'IceAgeChippies', you'd be correct! :D ...:p
"The Pepe Le Pew character will likely be a thing of the past across all media. Warner Bros. also has no current TV series featuring the skunk and there are no plans to have him appear on Looney Toons, Bugs Bunny Builders, Tiny Toons Looniversary or future projects, sources confirmed to Deadline"
-DEADLINE: https://deadline.com/2021/03/pepe-le-pew-space-jam-2-ne...
...'Kids do learn from what they see, and the context of our culture is different today than it was. While we may understand something we're seeing as fictional or hyperbolic, a child's brain isn't able to understand those nuances. In many ways, I'm thinking of the parent. What can you control? It is important to be mindful about what we do present to children regarding intimacy and relationships.'"
-ABC News (Texas): https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/pepe-le-pew-loo...
No one has ever raped or been raped because 'Pepe le Pew'.
HYPOTHETICALWATCHER: "That's a claim; claims aren't evidence"
Ok, but Pepe le Pew has been going since the 1940's ...what happened to turn the world against him NOW?
Arguably the most powerful force on earth: a tweet. :P
"This helped teach boys that “no” didn’t really mean no, that it was a part of “the game”, the starting line of a power struggle. It taught overcoming a woman’s strenuous, even physical objections, was normal, adorable, funny. They didn’t even give the woman the ability to SPEAK"
-Charles M Blow (Twitter)
And this tweet was supported by a great many persons whose replies seem to express similar sentiments as Blow's ...which reenforces my view that Pepe didn't condition children against commonsense (therefore Pepe's behavior is a nonissue).
TL;DR: a great many persons who're familiar with the character grew up knowing 'no means no', so... what damage has Pepe done?
Either way, the character was supposed to be (needlessly) reprimanded in SJ2 ...which might have been funny if not (again) a bit unnecessary. Was that not good enough?
I'll not contribute much more towards this; I went down a similar rabbit hole in regards to the squirrel girl from The Sword in the Stone---I don't like to argue and I'm not interested in losing friends over trivial drama.
Additionally, no matter what one believes about Pepe, there is one thing left to consider---the reason I'm not giving my money or time to SJ2...
Pepe was axed to help promote the movie.
Yup! That's my little 'conspiracy'.
HYPOTHETICALWATCHER: "So you believe this effect was intentional on WB's part rather than incidental?"
Mhm. :3
Pepe was canned for the same reason the 'Mr.' was removed from the 'Mr. PotatoHead' brand: for product promotion and social brownie points.
The decision to remove the Pepe from SJ2 was done last-minute in response to the internet ...not for moral reasons (no one writing for or animating this movie was unaware of Pepe le Pew and his character), but for social and monetary ones.
Blow's tweet has spread word/reminders of 'Space Jam 2' across many social-media and news sites, with very minimal cost to the film's distributors/producers (not like Pepe was going to be a central character---he'd've been given a cameo at best, as in the first film).
Expunging le Pew from the movie HELPS the movie---the decision is counted as a good thing, esp. by the younger crowd (which the movie made for anyway).
HYPOTHETICALWATCHER: "There'so evidence for any of this"
I can't prove it, but I'll say pulling le Pew from the movie was done for only one of the following or the other:
1. cowardice (oh no, don't cancel our movie!)
2. brownie points and cheap promotion (my position because I'm a cynic)
So, yeah, either way... I'll repocket the money I was going to spend to see SJ2; I'll watch the first movie again instead ...in my comfortable home, with no mask (or clothing---let's be real), and with a bottle of vintage red. :3
By the by, all this reminds me of a book I read a year or so ago: 'Bad for You, Exposing the War on Fun' by Kevin C Pyle and Scott Cunningham.
The book basically lists some of pop culture's innovations and inventions that previous generations thought would be the beginning of the end for humankind. Among those things deemed destructive were,
1. comic books
2. video/role-playing games (esp. violent ones)
3. remote controls and telephones
4. playgrounds
5. thought (granted I think younger generations fear this, too)
All of the above yet exists and has not proven deleterious to society (well, 'telephone' is debatable, I guess).
As for the younger generation, it seeks (and has almost always sought) to warn itself of the evils of the previous generations, among the newest is Pepe le Pew. :p
I guess 'the more things change, the more things stay the same' holds true here; I'm not surprised by the decision to cancel Pepe, but I don't have to support it either. :3
"Young people have exalted notions, because they have not been humbled by life or learned its necessary limitations; moreover, their hopeful disposition makes them think themselves equal to great things -- and that means having exalted notions. They would always rather do noble deeds than useful ones: Their lives are regulated more by moral feeling than by reasoning -- all their mistakes are in the direction of doing things excessively and vehemently. They overdo everything -- they love too much, hate too much, and the same with everything else"
-Aristotle
"Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes, and shrewd in their own sight!"
-Isaiah 5:20-21
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