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Obviously I think this cartoon needs to be here (horrible art notwithstanding---this was a 'Quickie'; minimal effort went in, per intention).\n\nAnyway...\n\nSNOWY: \"Your internet experience and freedom of speech is under attack!\"\n\nUNO: \"Because: kids!\"\n\n...That should be 'are under', but whatever! XD\n\nSNOWY: \"That means all your videos about Lego, games and cartoons must respect our sensitivities!\"\n\nUNO: Even though we're too young to legally use your platform\"\n\nRE: Youtube, COPPA/FTC law\n\n...I think this law will be amended. What we're seeing now is YT trying to cover their tail in response to the FTC. Things will change.\n\nThe way I see it, if tracking children's browsing data is the issue, then it doesn't matter what the kids are watching. I know, as a kid, I would've watcheed 9-11 jumper videos, acts of violence people record on the street, NC-17 anime (like Elden Lied ...which I like, though don't expect art of it), etc... And my data would be tracked ...and that's the problem.\n\nJust don't track kids/anyone or (more realistically) just choose not to care. I mean, what's it matter if a kid watching a Spyro the Dragon LP sees an ad for a Spyro T-shirt or whatever?\nEither way, Google doesn't get the kids' address---Google gets that of his parents (kids aren't homeowners ...neither do they have credit cards, or any real information other than a name, that they don't share with their parents ...which, again, Google already has).\n\nSNOWY: \"And if your favorite social forum happens to appeal to us---\"\n\nUNO: \"Then you better watch your language!\"\n\nRE: Neopets, etc\n\nThis one was more of an inside-humor thing, but it's still true. Sites made for bored college students still have to be child-friendly if they happen to use bright colors, games, cartoon animals, etc... or even if they're just generally irresistible (such as Tumblr, etc, which recently had to boycott adult images, esp. pornography).\n\nI maintain that 'family-friendly' is just a euphemism for 'for kids'.\n\nSNOWY: \"We're cute, but mind how you draw us!\"\n\nUNO: \"Funny-animal sketches/real-life kids? To-may-toe/toe-muh-toe!\"\n\nRE: European pornography laws\n\n...As a (mostly-clean) cub artist who likes (kosher) nudity, I'll keep this brief: a cartoon animal is not a RL human child. A cartoon human child is not a RL human child. Most who draw explicit cubs are not pedophiles ...and even if they were, who have they violated by drawing a wiener on Buster Bunny?\n\nUNO: \"Wait---is all that on us, or on the adults?\"\n\nSNOWY and UNO: \"The adults!\"\n\nYeah, kids aren't complaining about ads ...maybe they don't like that their parents can't afford to buy them everything, but that's not (usually) a problem.\n\nKids aren't upset to see pornography removed from most sites they use, but that's likely because most kids avoid it anyway (so it's a non-issue for them in THAT respect). The problem where social-media sites is concerned is that children use such sites in the first place (same as with YT).\n\nKids aren't offended by cartoon butts on kid/animal characters---just ask anyone under 13 who watches Nickelodeon. :P\n\nNo, it's adults, WELL-INTENTIONED adults who freak out about these things. Granted, there ARE problems here, with all the above.\n\n1. Kids shouldn't be stalked by Google ...and neither should I for that matter. Taking down toy videos from a site kids will continue to use (effectively having fewer options for content appropriate for them) only worsens the problem.\n\nSolution: (for parents) Take away the iPhone; (for Google) stop following us (you're not the government).\n\n2. If it's illegal to track children's browsing history against their will or knowledge, to try to sell them something, then it's probably just as illegal (if not more so) to collect EVERYTHING ELSE about them ...as is the purpose of social media.\n\nSocial-media sites are for adult usage, whether they have porn in them or not. Removing the porn and/or disallowing crude language, etc., just gives the FALSE impression that such sites are innocuous for kids ...THEY'RE NOT!\n\nSolution (for parents): Again, take away the iPhone; don't allow your kid a social-media outlet; (for the relevant websites): keep the adult content---it'll scare the sensitive kiddies away and provide reasons for adults to banish it from their kids' devices.\n\n3. Child pornography is wrong, for EVERYONE! ...But don't confuse it with some bored teenager's 'ironic' doodles of Daisy Duck or Gatomon. :P\n\nSolution (for all involved): use common sense and direct your energies here to protecting real children; avoid furry sites (made for adults) if cartoons offend you.\n\nPOINT: don't blame the kids","description_bbcode_parsed":"<span style='word-wrap: break-word;'>I made this as a joke yesterday, and took it down after an hour or so.<br /><br />That said, I&#039;ve had all night to think about it and, well... Obviously I think this cartoon needs to be here (horrible art notwithstanding---this was a &#039;Quickie&#039;; minimal effort went in, per intention).<br /><br />Anyway...<br /><br />SNOWY: &quot;Your internet experience and freedom of speech is under attack!&quot;<br /><br />UNO: &quot;Because: kids!&quot;<br /><br />...That should be &#039;are under&#039;, but whatever! XD<br /><br />SNOWY: &quot;That means all your videos about Lego, games and cartoons must respect our sensitivities!&quot;<br /><br />UNO: Even though we&#039;re too young to legally use your platform&quot;<br /><br />RE: Youtube, COPPA/FTC law<br /><br />...I think this law will be amended. What we&#039;re seeing now is YT trying to cover their tail in response to the FTC. Things will change.<br /><br />The way I see it, if tracking children&#039;s browsing data is the issue, then it doesn&#039;t matter what the kids are watching. I know, as a kid, I would&#039;ve watcheed 9-11 jumper videos, acts of violence people record on the street, NC-17 anime (like Elden Lied ...which I like, though don&#039;t expect art of it), etc... And my data would be tracked ...and that&#039;s the problem.<br /><br />Just don&#039;t track kids/anyone or (more realistically) just choose not to care. I mean, what&#039;s it matter if a kid watching a Spyro the Dragon LP sees an ad for a Spyro T-shirt or whatever?<br />Either way, Google doesn&#039;t get the kids&#039; address---Google gets that of his parents (kids aren&#039;t homeowners ...neither do they have credit cards, or any real information other than a name, that they don&#039;t share with their parents ...which, again, Google already has).<br /><br />SNOWY: &quot;And if your favorite social forum happens to appeal to us---&quot;<br /><br />UNO: &quot;Then you better watch your language!&quot;<br /><br />RE: Neopets, etc<br /><br />This one was more of an inside-humor thing, but it&#039;s still true. Sites made for bored college students still have to be child-friendly if they happen to use bright colors, games, cartoon animals, etc... or even if they&#039;re just generally irresistible (such as Tumblr, etc, which recently had to boycott adult images, esp. pornography).<br /><br />I maintain that &#039;family-friendly&#039; is just a euphemism for &#039;for kids&#039;.<br /><br />SNOWY: &quot;We&#039;re cute, but mind how you draw us!&quot;<br /><br />UNO: &quot;Funny-animal sketches/real-life kids? To-may-toe/toe-muh-toe!&quot;<br /><br />RE: European pornography laws<br /><br />...As a (mostly-clean) cub artist who likes (kosher) nudity, I&#039;ll keep this brief: a cartoon animal is not a RL human child. A cartoon human child is not a RL human child. Most who draw explicit cubs are not pedophiles ...and even if they were, who have they violated by drawing a wiener on Buster Bunny?<br /><br />UNO: &quot;Wait---is all that on us, or on the adults?&quot;<br /><br />SNOWY and UNO: &quot;The adults!&quot;<br /><br />Yeah, kids aren&#039;t complaining about ads ...maybe they don&#039;t like that their parents can&#039;t afford to buy them everything, but that&#039;s not (usually) a problem.<br /><br />Kids aren&#039;t upset to see pornography removed from most sites they use, but that&#039;s likely because most kids avoid it anyway (so it&#039;s a non-issue for them in THAT respect). The problem where social-media sites is concerned is that children use such sites in the first place (same as with YT).<br /><br />Kids aren&#039;t offended by cartoon butts on kid/animal characters---just ask anyone under 13 who watches Nickelodeon. :P<br /><br />No, it&#039;s adults, WELL-INTENTIONED adults who freak out about these things. Granted, there ARE problems here, with all the above.<br /><br />1. Kids shouldn&#039;t be stalked by Google ...and neither should I for that matter. Taking down toy videos from a site kids will continue to use (effectively having fewer options for content appropriate for them) only worsens the problem.<br /><br />Solution: (for parents) Take away the iPhone; (for Google) stop following us (you&#039;re not the government).<br /><br />2. If it&#039;s illegal to track children&#039;s browsing history against their will or knowledge, to try to sell them something, then it&#039;s probably just as illegal (if not more so) to collect EVERYTHING ELSE about them ...as is the purpose of social media.<br /><br />Social-media sites are for adult usage, whether they have porn in them or not. Removing the porn and/or disallowing crude language, etc., just gives the FALSE impression that such sites are innocuous for kids ...THEY&#039;RE NOT!<br /><br />Solution (for parents): Again, take away the iPhone; don&#039;t allow your kid a social-media outlet; (for the relevant websites): keep the adult content---it&#039;ll scare the sensitive kiddies away and provide reasons for adults to banish it from their kids&#039; devices.<br /><br />3. Child pornography is wrong, for EVERYONE! ...But don&#039;t confuse it with some bored teenager&#039;s &#039;ironic&#039; doodles of Daisy Duck or Gatomon. :P<br /><br />Solution (for all involved): use common sense and direct your energies here to protecting real children; avoid furry sites (made for adults) if cartoons offend you.<br /><br />POINT: don&#039;t blame the kids</span>","writing":"","writing_bbcode_parsed":"<span style='word-wrap: break-word;'></span>","pools_count":0,"title":"(Reupload): Don't Blame the KIds","deleted":"f","public":"t","mimetype":"image/jpeg","pagecount":"1","rating_id":"1","rating_name":"Mature","ratings":[{"content_tag_id":"2","name":"Nudity","description":"Nonsexual nudity exposing breasts or genitals (must not show arousal)","rating_id":"1"}],"submission_type_id":"1","type_name":"Picture/Pinup","guest_block":"t","friends_only":"f","comments_count":"9","views":"203","sales_description":null,"forsale":"f","digitalsales":"f","printsales":"f","digital_price":""}