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Could you criticize me a little and tell me what lacks in my drawings please? Maybe I'm coloring or shading my drawings not much nice. Or maybe I should better practice more on anatomy of creatures that I'm drawing? Or maybe something else? :)\nPlease don't shy to criticize me, I'm really curious to know your opinion because you are drawing cartoon creatures really good, cute and nice, so you're quite advanced in drawing them, unlike me\"\n\n...-_-\n\nMARTEN: \"I'll draw you a criticism... I know how to do this in a way you can learn from\"\n\n...And, yes, before I'm pounced, I had Gilbert's permission to show their art here. :P\n\nI suppose I should be more responsive than I am to questions, favors, etc... I mean, I don't do requests, RP or livechat (you know, those things social people do)---heck, I don't even give faves or watch-backs. :P\n\nBut I have reasons for these things... likely, mine aren't good or even sufficient reasons, but I've reasons nonetheless.\nHowever, when it comes to critiques, my reasoning against giving such things is more than solid,\n\nMARTEN (to Gilbert, after he expressed how he can draw Marlene from memory: \"You already care more than I do... Why did you come to me for this?\nI make shit quickies and ACEOs with wobbly ungraded lines, no color and little or no consideration for heroic proportions\"\n\n...Not that my reasoning matters,\n\nGILBERT: \"I... Just liked your drawings very much. And in my opinion you draw way more better than I do:heart: Your sketches are simply perfect and I can't see any drawing mistakes in them when I look at them and you can express emotions waaay more better than me, my friend.\nThat's why I asked you to advice me how can I improve. Please don't say such not nice things about your drawings because they are simply amazing\"\n\nThis is like when you're a kid and your mom loves everything you draw. So, one day, you INTENTIONALLY make a bad drawing and it receives the same approval... you learn from this that people are either insincere or are blinded with bias.\n\nAnyway, here's an OBJECTIVE, VISUAL 'critique' of Gilbert's work, since they asked for it ...as well a critique of my own art.\n\nTop left: Marlene, as she appears on the show.\n\nTop right: One of Gilbert's many interpretations.\n\nFriend Gilbert, your art already surpasses its source material ...which I'll say isn't hard, but let's not digress. ^^\n\nGilbert, your 'Marlene' appears roughly as she would in a children's storybook---the kind the publisher would horse-whip the illustrator to keep everything as 'on-model' as possible given the change in medium.\nThe drawing (by means of color and texture) shows the shape of the character---I can tell where her belly ends and her brisket begins without the need of hard lines.\nI can't really offer anything in the way of criticism (again) considering the subject (who isn't anatomically correct to start with)---so if the goal was to be as faithful as possible to the original: mission accomplished!\n\n...If, however, a gun were pointed at my head, I could suggest using a darker brown for Marlene's pelage (Gilbert's try is a bit too bright).\n\nNext is my junk...\n\nOn the left is Marlene in my 'quickie' style. For quickies, I don't extend much concern for 'being correct' in any regard (and it shows!)---I usually can't even be bothered to erase all my guidelines/remove smudges.\nThis is roughly how I'd draw Marlene in a sketch dump or in a 'Timmy' drawing---quick, simple, done in a minute!\n\nAdjacent is Marlene drawn in my 'ACEO' style. Here, I care a little more about clean-up and other details (mostly faces/hands).\nPast this, not much concern is given (I cared more when my S/O was living, but there really isn't THAT much difference between quickies and ACEO).\n\nWhy show my art here?\n\n...So Gilbert can see it next to both the original and their own art.\n\n\"One of these things is not like the other!\" (c'mon, sing with me!)\n\n...Yeah. Point made: Gilbert can draw/color; I can't do either; I don't want to give or receive critiques.\n\nGILBERT (before I uploaded this): \"Oh Marten? .....One idea came to me right now... Umm... What if we would do a collab with you, based on that sketch of Marlene that you drew for me?\nI could try to shade your sketch of Marlene and maybe to color it digitally... (if you don't mind, of course)\nOr we may do a collab, based on some of your drawing? I could try to color and shade it for you.\nI like to do a collabs with people. It's always so interesting\"\n","description_bbcode_parsed":"For Gilbert235: www.deviantart.com/gilbert235
GILBERT: "Hello Marten I've decided to message you because I've got curious to know your opinion about my drawings. Could you criticize me a little and tell me what lacks in my drawings please? Maybe I'm coloring or shading my drawings not much nice. Or maybe I should better practice more on anatomy of creatures that I'm drawing? Or maybe something else? :)
Please don't shy to criticize me, I'm really curious to know your opinion because you are drawing cartoon creatures really good, cute and nice, so you're quite advanced in drawing them, unlike me"
...-_-
MARTEN: "I'll draw you a criticism... I know how to do this in a way you can learn from"
...And, yes, before I'm pounced, I had Gilbert's permission to show their art here. :P
I suppose I should be more responsive than I am to questions, favors, etc... I mean, I don't do requests, RP or livechat (you know, those things social people do)---heck, I don't even give faves or watch-backs. :P
But I have reasons for these things... likely, mine aren't good or even sufficient reasons, but I've reasons nonetheless.
However, when it comes to critiques, my reasoning against giving such things is more than solid,
MARTEN (to Gilbert, after he expressed how he can draw Marlene from memory: "You already care more than I do... Why did you come to me for this?
I make shit quickies and ACEOs with wobbly ungraded lines, no color and little or no consideration for heroic proportions"
...Not that my reasoning matters,
GILBERT: "I... Just liked your drawings very much. And in my opinion you draw way more better than I do:heart: Your sketches are simply perfect and I can't see any drawing mistakes in them when I look at them and you can express emotions waaay more better than me, my friend.
That's why I asked you to advice me how can I improve. Please don't say such not nice things about your drawings because they are simply amazing"
This is like when you're a kid and your mom loves everything you draw. So, one day, you INTENTIONALLY make a bad drawing and it receives the same approval... you learn from this that people are either insincere or are blinded with bias.
Anyway, here's an OBJECTIVE, VISUAL 'critique' of Gilbert's work, since they asked for it ...as well a critique of my own art.
Top left: Marlene, as she appears on the show.
Top right: One of Gilbert's many interpretations.
Friend Gilbert, your art already surpasses its source material ...which I'll say isn't hard, but let's not digress. ^^
Gilbert, your 'Marlene' appears roughly as she would in a children's storybook---the kind the publisher would horse-whip the illustrator to keep everything as 'on-model' as possible given the change in medium.
The drawing (by means of color and texture) shows the shape of the character---I can tell where her belly ends and her brisket begins without the need of hard lines.
I can't really offer anything in the way of criticism (again) considering the subject (who isn't anatomically correct to start with)---so if the goal was to be as faithful as possible to the original: mission accomplished!
...If, however, a gun were pointed at my head, I could suggest using a darker brown for Marlene's pelage (Gilbert's try is a bit too bright).
Next is my junk...
On the left is Marlene in my 'quickie' style. For quickies, I don't extend much concern for 'being correct' in any regard (and it shows!)---I usually can't even be bothered to erase all my guidelines/remove smudges.
This is roughly how I'd draw Marlene in a sketch dump or in a 'Timmy' drawing---quick, simple, done in a minute!
Adjacent is Marlene drawn in my 'ACEO' style. Here, I care a little more about clean-up and other details (mostly faces/hands).
Past this, not much concern is given (I cared more when my S/O was living, but there really isn't THAT much difference between quickies and ACEO).
Why show my art here?
...So Gilbert can see it next to both the original and their own art.
"One of these things is not like the other!" (c'mon, sing with me!)
...Yeah. Point made: Gilbert can draw/color; I can't do either; I don't want to give or receive critiques.
GILBERT (before I uploaded this): "Oh Marten? .....One idea came to me right now... Umm... What if we would do a collab with you, based on that sketch of Marlene that you drew for me?
I could try to shade your sketch of Marlene and maybe to color it digitally... (if you don't mind, of course)
Or we may do a collab, based on some of your drawing? I could try to color and shade it for you.
I like to do a collabs with people. It's always so interesting"
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