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As I promised in the previous journal - https://inkbunny.net/journalview.php?id=209950 - “we're going to have a talk about all this commission business, to finally settle some things about it”. Before anything, this isn’t a rant, and I’m not writing it out of anger. If some line sounds “rude” it’s because I’ll try to be clear, so something could sound a bit too much “direct” lol. Also, I turned this into a drawn post since journals doesn't seem to have the same effect. Plus I've always wanted to draw Jackie involved into the \"Do it Faggot\" meme <<' So let’s finish this.\n\nThe Feedback\nGotta say, I never had so many commissions requests as I had this year. I feel like people has been interested in my style lately, and that’s motivating, even enough to make me think on working harder on it and dedicate a bigger amount of free time on this business. Of course, more requests means more work and less time for my own drawings, but I always could learn to balance time. I REALLY need to learn to do that. Anyways, I’m glad for the interest, and thankful too.\nPlus, I've never had anybody unhappy for a picture.. At least nobody told me anything about unsatisfaction before.. <<'\n\nThe Price\nI don’t live from this business, that for sure. It helps me with the software I may need from time to time. For that reason, I had no reason to have high prices set. Anyways, since the 5 years-3000 watchers event, I decided to increase my prices a bit. I thought It was well deserved. The result was not the expected. A moderate amount of people asking for commissions turned back once I told them the current price. This isn’t a rant, but while doing that, they pay the double than my higher price for artists who sell the half of the higher quality I’m currently offering, so that was confusing to me. Maybe this is like this because they’re popular? I remember meeting a popular artist from my place IRL at my beginning and I asked him for the commission stuff. He told me about famous artists selling “their name, not their art”. If this is true, then I’m doomed lol, because popularity isn’t my stronger area. Anyways, I’ve improved since I’ve started on FA. Sometimes the changes have been really noticeable; some others have been slightly noticeable, but the changes (to make the creation bigger, or faster, or simplier, or simply more effective) are always there. A non-noticeable change could be the resolution; I’ve started with 500x700, now I’m at 2000x2700, etc. And I charge extra for that lol.\nNow, there's something I'd like to leave clear: The bargain, the dribble, the haggle, whatever you call it. No. People no, cut that thing. Who are you, the Merchant from the game Ragnarok Online? This doesn't anger me, but I don't think is right. It almost feels abusive sometimes. I've made some good deals in the past through this method, but is over, I won't fall into that anymore lol. Some customers try to get a bit more from what I'm offering, some others try to give a bit less of what I'm asking for. No more, hehe :p Take what I offer, and give me what I ask for.\nCurious thing: FA prices(15-25) and IB prices(10-20) aren't the same o.o I think it's because of the price increase. When I saw this turning into a fail, I slightly lowered IB prices a bit, but FA info didn't changed. After thinking about this, I'll leave it like that. The reason isn't important enough to be explained.\nResume: I compare myself with other artists, the stuff they offer, the amount they take for it, the themes they accept, and the time they take to finish, and I find the prices I've set to be fair. Maybe the time I take to finish is the only bad thing I need to work on, but we talk about prices here.\n\nThe Payment\nIn all the deals I've made, I had no problem until now. Everybody payed properly without issues. By my side, I only take payments once I finish, just in the case I need to do a global cancel or I can't finish a certain work, so in this area, everything is going perfectly for now. Paypal was a cunt last time, but that's solved with a new account, nothing else.\n\nThe \"Compromise\"\nAllow me to cite myself: \"I don’t live from this business, that for sure\". As I said, this income helps me with software, but I don't give a real use it IRL. To be honest, nobody should care what's my reason to gather resources, but I do it. With my pictures xd You get pictures, so don't worry about what I do with the cash you give to me. The case is, I'm not very compromised with this business; as I said, I only take payments after I finish, so in the sad case of me having to cancel all my commissions at once, or a specific one due to X reason, nobody loses. Maybe the customers lose the chance of getting art done by the artist they liked, and get mad or sad because of it lol. In my case, I lose the chance of getting money, I may lose the customer, and it also affects my reputation as artist (I think I take the worse part hehe). Taking this in count, I have no big issue to cancel an order if I can't deal with it, or if I find myself overwhelmed by work or personal projects. You ask, I reply, the current situations determines if you get your request made or not, but I should admit that sometimes I take more that I can handle, or I take orders in what isn't the best moment, honestly. \"Compensations\"? Ha! What's that? I've been told of artists giving forgotten, delayed commissions for free after years. Yeah, you'll see the same from me.. the same day you'll see pigs flying :3 (Wait a sec, I've done that already.. damn..)\nWhat about my speed rate? I'm a damn slug :'| I can draw \"full\" pictures for myself in some hours, but when it comes about drawing a simple lineart for somebody else, my pen turns into full lead, my hand into concrete.. you got the point lol. This is the only thing I apologize for, because I'd like to find a way to add a rush to my work for others, since slow drawings means slow money for myself (and I decided to get into this because somebody told me about \"fast money\" lol), and that's a turn off, not only for the customers, but also for myself. I don't draw everyday and there are so much things to draw, even if they're not posted in public, that plus the short time I have for this leaves you with only one choice: being patient lol.\nThe last and most important thing; I totally reserve the right to accept or reject a customer's request. You may have money, you may be willing to give it, but that means nothing if I don't like your kinks or your characters, or if simply I can't take your request. In this case, you have no right to complain, to claim, to rant, to anything. If you're persistent, you may try asking for different kinks or characters, but if this doesn't work, finding another artist who's more compromised would be a more proper choice for you.\n\nThe Quality\nI offer two kind of pics: Lineart and Plain Color. Now think that I may take from 1 to 4 months to finish a bunch of linearts.. Would you really wish to ask me for full color and background? I don't think so lol.\nMore clearly, I offer those qualities because I think it's the most proper thing to do. The lineart is to have something cheap for the customer to buy, and the plain color is for those cases where the customer may want the image to be a bit more complete. Nothing more or less than that. I don't add background or lightning/shading to the deal because I consider I'm still learning in those areas, and they demand of skills that I haven't fully mastered yet, and taking in count that there's money in the middle, I don't want to risk myself to give a picture that couldn't be fully satisfactory for me or worse, for the customer. For that reason, I only stay on the \"safe area\" of line and flat color. I'm thinking on adding even a lower quality (rough sketch. Yeah, those messy blue doodles. I'd made them look fine, but they would be kind of a mess anyway :|) for a tiny price, since people told me they like those anyways. Now, thinking on releasing light/shade and background, that's something too much compromising to be taken in mind at this moment.\nI never had a refund request before, but I don't give them anyways lol; with my part of the deal in your hands, you have very little to claim about :p\n\nWell, I don't think there's anything else to clear about this business at the moment. I work on PrOn (yeah, take that in count; I work with NSFW. So take your sfw somewhere else :|..), and people seemed interested on it, so I'm getting more into selling my style more often. See you there, thanks for everything\n\nAnd as a little PD: to that specific four eyes guy who's always complaining about us artists and the choice of selling our style and ranting about how \"mean and greedy\" we are, go hide under a rock, man. You've bothered me and others before, but your whining is being expected this time and trust me, it won't be welcomed again.","description_bbcode_parsed":"Here we are. As I promised in the previous journal - https://inkbunny.net/journalview.php?id=209950 - “we're going to have a talk about all this commission business, to finally settle some things about it”. Before anything, this isn’t a rant, and I’m not writing it out of anger. If some line sounds “rude” it’s because I’ll try to be clear, so something could sound a bit too much “direct” lol. Also, I turned this into a drawn post since journals doesn't seem to have the same effect. Plus I've always wanted to draw Jackie involved into the "Do it Faggot" meme <<' So let’s finish this.
The Feedback
Gotta say, I never had so many commissions requests as I had this year. I feel like people has been interested in my style lately, and that’s motivating, even enough to make me think on working harder on it and dedicate a bigger amount of free time on this business. Of course, more requests means more work and less time for my own drawings, but I always could learn to balance time. I REALLY need to learn to do that. Anyways, I’m glad for the interest, and thankful too.
Plus, I've never had anybody unhappy for a picture.. At least nobody told me anything about unsatisfaction before.. <<'
The Price
I don’t live from this business, that for sure. It helps me with the software I may need from time to time. For that reason, I had no reason to have high prices set. Anyways, since the 5 years-3000 watchers event, I decided to increase my prices a bit. I thought It was well deserved. The result was not the expected. A moderate amount of people asking for commissions turned back once I told them the current price. This isn’t a rant, but while doing that, they pay the double than my higher price for artists who sell the half of the higher quality I’m currently offering, so that was confusing to me. Maybe this is like this because they’re popular? I remember meeting a popular artist from my place IRL at my beginning and I asked him for the commission stuff. He told me about famous artists selling “their name, not their art”. If this is true, then I’m doomed lol, because popularity isn’t my stronger area. Anyways, I’ve improved since I’ve started on FA. Sometimes the changes have been really noticeable; some others have been slightly noticeable, but the changes (to make the creation bigger, or faster, or simplier, or simply more effective) are always there. A non-noticeable change could be the resolution; I’ve started with 500x700, now I’m at 2000x2700, etc. And I charge extra for that lol.
Now, there's something I'd like to leave clear: The bargain, the dribble, the haggle, whatever you call it. No. People no, cut that thing. Who are you, the Merchant from the game Ragnarok Online? This doesn't anger me, but I don't think is right. It almost feels abusive sometimes. I've made some good deals in the past through this method, but is over, I won't fall into that anymore lol. Some customers try to get a bit more from what I'm offering, some others try to give a bit less of what I'm asking for. No more, hehe :p Take what I offer, and give me what I ask for.
Curious thing: FA prices(15-25) and IB prices(10-20) aren't the same o.o I think it's because of the price increase. When I saw this turning into a fail, I slightly lowered IB prices a bit, but FA info didn't changed. After thinking about this, I'll leave it like that. The reason isn't important enough to be explained.
Resume: I compare myself with other artists, the stuff they offer, the amount they take for it, the themes they accept, and the time they take to finish, and I find the prices I've set to be fair. Maybe the time I take to finish is the only bad thing I need to work on, but we talk about prices here.
The Payment
In all the deals I've made, I had no problem until now. Everybody payed properly without issues. By my side, I only take payments once I finish, just in the case I need to do a global cancel or I can't finish a certain work, so in this area, everything is going perfectly for now. Paypal was a cunt last time, but that's solved with a new account, nothing else.
The "Compromise"
Allow me to cite myself: "I don’t live from this business, that for sure". As I said, this income helps me with software, but I don't give a real use it IRL. To be honest, nobody should care what's my reason to gather resources, but I do it. With my pictures xd You get pictures, so don't worry about what I do with the cash you give to me. The case is, I'm not very compromised with this business; as I said, I only take payments after I finish, so in the sad case of me having to cancel all my commissions at once, or a specific one due to X reason, nobody loses. Maybe the customers lose the chance of getting art done by the artist they liked, and get mad or sad because of it lol. In my case, I lose the chance of getting money, I may lose the customer, and it also affects my reputation as artist (I think I take the worse part hehe). Taking this in count, I have no big issue to cancel an order if I can't deal with it, or if I find myself overwhelmed by work or personal projects. You ask, I reply, the current situations determines if you get your request made or not, but I should admit that sometimes I take more that I can handle, or I take orders in what isn't the best moment, honestly. "Compensations"? Ha! What's that? I've been told of artists giving forgotten, delayed commissions for free after years. Yeah, you'll see the same from me.. the same day you'll see pigs flying :3 (Wait a sec, I've done that already.. damn..)
What about my speed rate? I'm a damn slug :'| I can draw "full" pictures for myself in some hours, but when it comes about drawing a simple lineart for somebody else, my pen turns into full lead, my hand into concrete.. you got the point lol. This is the only thing I apologize for, because I'd like to find a way to add a rush to my work for others, since slow drawings means slow money for myself (and I decided to get into this because somebody told me about "fast money" lol), and that's a turn off, not only for the customers, but also for myself. I don't draw everyday and there are so much things to draw, even if they're not posted in public, that plus the short time I have for this leaves you with only one choice: being patient lol.
The last and most important thing; I totally reserve the right to accept or reject a customer's request. You may have money, you may be willing to give it, but that means nothing if I don't like your kinks or your characters, or if simply I can't take your request. In this case, you have no right to complain, to claim, to rant, to anything. If you're persistent, you may try asking for different kinks or characters, but if this doesn't work, finding another artist who's more compromised would be a more proper choice for you.
The Quality
I offer two kind of pics: Lineart and Plain Color. Now think that I may take from 1 to 4 months to finish a bunch of linearts.. Would you really wish to ask me for full color and background? I don't think so lol.
More clearly, I offer those qualities because I think it's the most proper thing to do. The lineart is to have something cheap for the customer to buy, and the plain color is for those cases where the customer may want the image to be a bit more complete. Nothing more or less than that. I don't add background or lightning/shading to the deal because I consider I'm still learning in those areas, and they demand of skills that I haven't fully mastered yet, and taking in count that there's money in the middle, I don't want to risk myself to give a picture that couldn't be fully satisfactory for me or worse, for the customer. For that reason, I only stay on the "safe area" of line and flat color. I'm thinking on adding even a lower quality (rough sketch. Yeah, those messy blue doodles. I'd made them look fine, but they would be kind of a mess anyway :|) for a tiny price, since people told me they like those anyways. Now, thinking on releasing light/shade and background, that's something too much compromising to be taken in mind at this moment.
I never had a refund request before, but I don't give them anyways lol; with my part of the deal in your hands, you have very little to claim about :p
Well, I don't think there's anything else to clear about this business at the moment. I work on PrOn (yeah, take that in count; I work with NSFW. So take your sfw somewhere else :|..), and people seemed interested on it, so I'm getting more into selling my style more often. See you there, thanks for everything
And as a little PD: to that specific four eyes guy who's always complaining about us artists and the choice of selling our style and ranting about how "mean and greedy" we are, go hide under a rock, man. You've bothered me and others before, but your whining is being expected this time and trust me, it won't be welcomed again.","writing":"","writing_bbcode_parsed":"","pools_count":1,"title":"[Almost] Everything about Commissons","deleted":"f","public":"t","mimetype":"image/jpeg","pagecount":"1","rating_id":"1","rating_name":"Mature","ratings":[{"content_tag_id":"3","name":"Violence","description":"Mild violence","rating_id":"1"}],"submission_type_id":"1","type_name":"Picture/Pinup","guest_block":"t","friends_only":"f","comments_count":"27","views":"1058"}