[20:26:36] and the downvotes signal to the artist that maybe that wasn't the best choice to draw right? [20:26:42] no [20:26:49] downvotes are most commonly used by two camps: [20:26:52] 1. idiots who cant use filters [20:27:04] 2. people trying to make a point that nobody gives a fuck about (usually "fuck this artist") [20:27:14] you think fetish art is objectively bad because it's niche? [20:27:19] are you okay? [20:27:33] "i dont like this so this is bad" [20:27:39] i mean, i dont think ive ever used downvoting on the site [20:27:40] ever [20:27:43] i upvote and favourite stuff [20:27:46] mostly RD stuff [20:27:48] I think I used it once to be funny [20:27:49] but i dont downvote anything [20:27:53] her. The actual "rape" was some shit man [20:27:56] *sigh* [20:28:00] Don't forget that some artists like seeing downvotes or like seeing how many they get [20:28:09] Not every artist sees an downvote as a fuck you [20:28:09] yeah but those are gonna be fine [20:28:12] but the sensitive ones [20:28:14] * The-luna-fan (The-luna-f@181.57.lng.ulq) has joined [20:28:15] are not gonna be fine [20:28:22] one camp isnt gonna ragequit [20:28:25] which one do you please? [20:28:27] hint: the one that will [20:28:28] Giving people downvotes was a mistake. [20:28:33] 100% agree [20:28:45] i learned i wasnt downvoting correctly so i removed the ~50 downvotes i had :D [20:28:50] lol [20:28:55] like, that's a point right there [20:28:58] "i wasn't downvoting correctly" [20:29:00] It has its place on YouTube, because content creators care mainly about money and views, not votes. Votes there serve some sort of purpose. [20:29:05] there's literally criteria for you to follow to downvote [20:29:12] otherwise it's a bad downvote [20:29:16] Here, votes become the primary thing for content creators to care about...that's really bad. [20:29:43] We also don't hav the insanely good algorithms, nor quantity of things, to get people moving thru related content they'll like, like YT does. [20:30:08] then let's come up with some [20:30:14] pls no [20:30:17] pls yes [20:30:20] Way too much scope. [20:30:21] the youtube of ponies [20:30:25] ponytube [20:30:28] derpitube [20:30:32] We don't hav the servers, nor the content inflow, to do it. [20:30:40] We used to have a "related images" thing that didn't work very well and was removed because it didn't work very well [20:30:50] lets get more servers in antarctica then \o/ [20:30:51] we can probably pull it off [20:31:00] * soundtea has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:31:03] the servers, I mean [20:31:10] we now have far more images on the site, too [20:31:13] * The-luna-fan has quit (Client Quit) [20:31:14] but content inflow will be nightmarish [20:31:19] When you are primarily a gallery, votes serve little purpose. FiMfic has the same problem. [20:31:31] •byte[]> then let's come up with some [20:31:40] people go to university for a Bach in that [20:31:42] then a Master's [20:31:43] then a Ph.D. [20:31:46] and they still do a SHIT job [20:31:49] you will not do any better than them [20:31:57] I don't need to [20:32:01] it's just a little tired, but Ponycon was a 3 drink minimum for something to do and he just said that because of my [20:32:08] * Joey-AFK is now known as Joey [20:32:16] I just need to make something acceptable that will keep people moving [20:32:55] Here's a quick and dirty keep it moving sort of thing - a keyboard shortcut to go to the first artist tag on an image, eg. "a" [20:33:02] If you do it badly, you end up with the same problems we hav. [20:33:07] equally at all what he thinks he's as bad as the .ru derpibooru url? [20:33:11] if you add keyboard shortcuts to the site without modifier keys [20:33:17] i will literally delete your account from the box [20:33:20] The best thing to do is to atrophy downvotes slowly over time until we can kill them without many caring. [20:33:27] oh you mean like j k s l and all the others? [20:33:44] there are already modifier keys [20:33:50] maybe you forgo [20:33:52] forgot* [20:34:01] no [20:34:02] im saying [20:34:03] if you add more [20:34:07] i will delete your acct [20:34:19] fite [20:34:23] those other ones should honestly be removed don't fuck with my browser's behaviour, you don't know what those keys do for some people [20:34:31] I will restore it from backups [20:34:32] just because your browser does nothing with them, it may not be the same for everyone [20:34:35] suck my nuts [20:34:38] uh [20:34:43] you're backing up /etc/shadow? [20:34:46] * darkdoomer has quit (Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)) [20:34:49] if you are im removing you /now/ [20:34:52] a double standard" [20:34:59] oh you mean my server account [20:35:01] yes [20:35:05] :^) [20:35:14] there's no way to clarify that [20:35:15] fr tho [20:35:18] keyboard shortcuts [20:35:19] are cancer [20:35:21] without modifiers [20:35:35] and somehow people don't even notice them [20:35:38] shocking [20:35:40] at least this site doesn't use ARROW KEYS as unmodified shortcuts [20:35:58] there was shortcuts [20:35:59] shouldn't be using anything tbh [20:36:01] it's a web app [20:36:15] One time I discovered shortcuts without modifier keys in Apple's form UI for the App store [20:36:33] lol [20:36:45] https://raw.githubusercontent.com/derpibooru/derpibooru/master/app/assets/javascripts/shortcuts.js?token=AJNg6B8gzWprR4nLZD0_-a0onGivCvHBks5ZgR6TwA%3D%3D [20:36:49] shortcuts [20:36:51] nibba [20:36:53] It was really annoying to be in the middle of trying to get something installed for work, and having to redo a ton of information about myself, my credit card, MY FIRST CAR (fukk security questions), etc. [20:37:03] byte[]: i [20:37:03] know [20:37:04] they [20:37:04] exist [20:37:05] nibba [20:37:11] nap in the past few months before release copy would ping up suspiscious shit on too much brain needed" things [20:37:12] im saying they should be fuckin removed [20:37:14] this isnt vim [20:37:29] * The (TheBarbari@icbx813-313-58-163.range813-363.btcentralplus.com) has joined [20:37:40] I dislike the keyboard shortcuts because I always end up accidentally downvoting or upvoting or favoriting things [20:37:45] Why are keyboard shortcuts suddenly bad [20:37:59] when I accidentally don't highlight the search box [20:38:07] unoverloaded keyboard shortcuts on websites are fucking aids [20:38:08] Because they were always bad to a significant segment of the population [20:38:14] esp. for accessibility [20:38:53] Because they change the meaning of something depending on focus in a way that's likely to cause unintentional and destructive actions because you thought you were in a search box. [20:39:04] For what it's worth, I appreciate that all of the shortcuts on the site are alphabetic characters, and not numbers/symbols/modifier keys [20:39:30] how do we know this isnt just a vocal minority trying to mold the site however it wants >:V [20:39:41] Really, it'd be fine probably if they were in a restricted focus, rather than in the main focus. [20:39:43] * The has quit (Client Quit) [20:39:51] * TheBarbaricBrony (TheBarbari@icbx813-313-58-163.range813-363.btcentralplus.com) has joined [20:39:55] The problem is being in the main focus instead of a narrow one like a search box. [20:40:06] RepentantAnon: honestly, americans with disabilities act [20:40:13] its kind of actually law to some degree [20:40:18] we don't /really/ have to follow it